Overmedication Kills; Not Guns

Back in the day, some of us remember those kids in school who were “hyper”. That’s how that kid was and he or she was accepted as such. Over the last decade-plus, lazy parents and teachers decided the best way to deal with hyper kids is to dope ’em up into a more manageable state.

With that, it’s not politically advantageous for some to make the easiest connection as to why all of these school shootings are happening.

While a political objective is to go after the gun, we have many mass killings by young people who’ve blown a gasket and almost all have one thing in common: they were given years of prescription drugs they really didn’t need to the detriment of innocent bystanders.

This was known and warned about years ago.

I am a law-abiding citizen and responsible gun owner, residing in Bethel Connecticut and I oppose any new laws/regulations regarding gun control. Mental health is the real issue, simply prescribing powerful drugs isn’t the answer and can have devastating effects, please see below list for an example

Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Colombine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold’s medical records have never been made available to the public.

The following is that ominous pattern that the pro-gun control, political and media opportunists intentionally ignore….

Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.

Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.

Kristina Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.

Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.

Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.

Kipland Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.

Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.

Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded.

Jeffrey Franklin, Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.

Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.

T.J. Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.

Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.

James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.

Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania

Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California

Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.

Christopher Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.

Jeffrey Brendan Franklin (Prozac, Klonopin and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic’s file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.

Buford O’Neal Furrow Jr. (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.

Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI Prozac.

Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.

Diane Routhier was prescribed Wellbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.

Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family’s Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.

Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara’s parents said “…. the damn doctor wouldn’t take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil….”

Gareth William Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002, (Gareth’s father could not accept his son’s death and killed himself.)

Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family’s detached garage.

Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.

Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.

Tim (“Woody”) Witczak, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.

A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.

Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.”

Matti Juhani Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.

Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.

Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.

Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone and Clonodine.

Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school.

James Eagan Holmes, age 24, was on Sertraline and Clonazepam when he killed 12 people and injured 59 others in Aurora Colorado

Adam Peter Lanza, age 20, was prescribed Fanapt, when he killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown, Connecticut

Missing from list… 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds….

What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21…… killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az?

What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas, Oregon?

Again I STRONGLY OPPOSE all new laws/regulations regarding gun control.
Thank you,
Diana Gaita
Diana Gaita, Bethel CT, Testimony to the Bipartisan Task Force on Gun Violence Prevention and Children’s Safety

Enough of this compilation was checked out so only a fool would deny the forced drugging of children has everything to do with youth and mass murder. That is, if it’s not really all about getting the gun.

Bottom line is back in the day, a kid who was considered over-energetic was called “hyper” and it was dealt with on a case-by-case basis. Today, parents get that kid doped up. No wonder they crack and take out those around them.


Why Children Snap and Kill: They’ve Been Doped-Up for Decades

22 Responses

  1. Koala

    My mother had a terrible time quitting smoking. There was no Chantix but she went crazy when she tried to quit. I will just say her behavour was unpleasant.  It took her many years of unsuccessful attempts until she finally did it. That is why I believe ex-tobacco smokers when they tell me it is among the top most addictive drugs.

  2. Palmetto

    My doctor  suggested Chantix to me several years ago and gave me a bunch of printed information.  The warnings scared the crap out of me.

  3. Mommy RN

    As a Certified Pediatric Nurse specialist, I have been speaking out about this for years. I have seen how these drugs have extremely negative short- and long-term side effects on the personality and psyche of those who take them.

    My own husband, who is one of the gentlest teddy bears on the planet, took Chantix a couple of years back to try to help him quit smoking. He had a psychotic break, attempting to kill himself with his own insulin. I had to physically restrain him from hurting himself…. not easy to do with a 6 ft 4, 290 lb male hell bent on self destruction when you are an average build 5 ft 4 female! Luckily the children were not home when it happened. I had a fingerbone snapped and bruising on my chest from where he kneeled on me to stop me from hindering him. Luckily, my adrenaline proved worthy to the task…. and we got those drugs out of his system. He did end up quitting smoking within a few weeks, but it was because every time he saw my now bent hand he would burst into tears crying, knowing that he had been the cause of it instead of my protector. Two years later and he still blames himself.

    We now actively work to urge people to stay away from Chantix and his physician refuses to prescribe it to anyone. After the incident we did some further digging and found out that there is a huge amount of information out there about people who have gone on either homicidal or suicidal rampages after taking Chantix.

    Whether every detail on this list is correct or not, I do not know. I do know that the message… that it isn’t the guns doing it, it is the drugs instigating it, is a very sound and reliable one.

  4. Brandon

    Correlation does not imply causation.

    There are many people on these drugs that have no history of violence. Obviously these people were disturbed to do what they did. They would have had to have some form of issues to even be prescribed the drugs in the first place.

    • Mommy RN

      Yes and no… many of these drugs are prescribed because teachers don’t want to deal with normal, active little boys and push the parents to get them on meds. Another segment are prescribed because people don’t want to take the time to really get to the core of issues that cause legitimate depression, but would rather just drug the problem away.

    • Koala

      Look at the warnings on the medication. Yes the medicine does cause violent and suicidal behavour.

    • bellefleur

      Many people (probably most) on that list had no history of violence either. The “form of issues” for which they were prescribed drugs was not violent tendencies, but “issues” like depression or social awkwardness or being disinclined to sit still for extended periods. Those are generally not the kind of “issues” that lead a person to bludgeon his parents or commit mass murder.

      Surely it’s worth considering the possibility that those mind-altering drugs have fairly often produced a frame of mind in which people have acted in ways they would not have done without the mind-altering drugs.

  5. Tallyman

    What’s the purpose of these drugs? To change mental outlook. Do they work? Yes. Is the change always better? No. Is the change better for whom? The teachers, the social worker, the psychologist or the psychiatrist? Have they noted the lack of a father at home and/or minimal male role models at schools? Is the school climate anti-boy? What’s to blame: mom, dad, lack of dad, teachers, mental health pros, the weather, video games, movies, feminism in schools, drugs, bullies, the perpetrator or just the gun?

  6. Igor

    Big Pharma is watching you, Bob.  You’re next!

    If my kids had ever been diagnosed by a pshrink at those miserable excuses of learning to have to take ANY of the above mentioned pharmaceuticals I would’ve told those phakes to “sod off”.  The problems we have with kids nowadays is due to lack of DISCIPLINE.  The supposed diagnosis of ADD and the like are just a panacea for keeping the kids in line.  Drugged-to-the-ears little zombies don’t cause problems, right?

    • Mommy RN

      My oldest son (16) has Asperger’s (same as Adam Lanza) but I have never once allowed him to be prescribed any of those drugs. Instead, I did the research to learn how to deal with his unique brain wiring and how to teach him to relate to the world around him. He was actually diagnosed with moderate to severe autism as a toddler, moved up to mild to moderate autism as a preschooler, then up to Asperger’s in early grade school and now, as a teen, he is considered to have mild Sensory Integration Disorder but, in all respects, is just seen as a kind of quirky kid. He is a straight A student, football player, sings in the choir, is in drama, leads his church youth group, and is considered one of the most reliable kids in our community. He is gentle and good with his baby brothers and sisters, but is a vicious and fierce opponent on the grid-iron and will not allow the bullying of others.

      There are choices besides medication that can be made. They are HARD work. Trust me, I know. My son’s physical therapy, in the early days, took 10-12 hours per day and I had no help besides my five year old daughter (who is now a 20 year old young wife and CNA who cares for the elderly). But I refused any and all suggestions of medication to make things “easier” and every day I am more glad that I made that choice.

      • Koala

        I have an Aspie too, Mommie RN, and I wholeheartedly agree with your stance on medications.

  7. ecotim

    This is partly the feminism of our boys. Mostly female teachers that want all the students to act like girls and when a boy can’t they drug him.

    The other part is bullies. The schools will not address bulling, until the bullied defends. Then they go after the victum for standing up for himself. 

    I think that because they have taken away any method to escape for a victum, whether religion, social clubs or whatever most of the bulling victums turn to violence. Maybe because of the games they play to escape then it gets into their minds that this is how they will get their revenge.

    I know I was bullied a lot. I had made a choice to not fight in 7th grade and from then on was a victum. Luckily for me I had my outlets that helped reinforce why I was not fighting back. Although one day a bully physically attacked me in front of a teacher. I pushed him away a tried to walk away, the teacher did nothing. He attacked again, I pushed away and kept walking, still nothing from the teacher. After the forth attack, I deck the attacker. Then the teacher stepped in. I was suspended from school. The bully was not.

    There were a few teachers that knew why I was not fighting back and when they found out what this lady did they made her life miserable. She avoided me (I was never in her class, but I think she felt I was a bully since I was 6′ 200 lbs in 8th grade, one reason why I became a pacifist). from then on.

    But because the new world order needs to take away our guns that will be the only issue they will talk about. Not the bullies, not the drungs, not the dumbing down of the students, the violent games and movies that are abundant.

    • Koala

      I hear you ecotim. Being the parent of giant boys over 6’5″ it is surprising how often others choose to pick on gentle giants.Many times the tallest gets singled out by teachers when an altercation erupts in the hall or on the schoolbus. Even though the giant is not involved in any way the first thing the authority sees is that one head towering over all the others. This is one reason I discouraged my sons from joining the military. That towering head gives the enemy an easy target. And don’t even get me started on buying clothing! Finding shoes and socks for giant feet is discouraging.and shopping for hi-rise slacks for tall men is a challenge! The blatant discrimination against talls is never addressed but always prevalent. But i digress.

      The Bibile warned against drugs but translators chose to call it witchcraft. Maybe there is a conspiracy there. Hmmm…

      • Mommy RN

        Absolutely! My husband is 6 ft 4 and is always discouraged by how people think he is “mean” or “scary” or “angry” when he is one of the biggest teddy bears on the planet. I am already having to look up to talk to our older sons (16 and 14) even though my family of extremely short people has helped to modify their height downward somewhat… although if our toddler keeps on at his current growth rates I will be having to look up to talk to him by, oh, about the fourth grade.

        We have already had to deal with bullying incidents toward both. When the eldest was a freshman he was flat out hazed by the older boys in football because he doesn’t watch or listen to anything that degrades women. He came to me one night so upset…. he said he had wanted to take the cd player in the locker room and throw it against the wall! We did have a good talk about how it was good he didn’t make that choice!

        And the 14 year old chose to cut off a friendship with a deeply troubled young man (who IS on serious psychotropic drugs) when he found out that the young man had been involved in breaking into and vandalizing school property over the summer. That resulted in death threats via text which the school principal handled very well, I believe.

  8. IT Nerd

    Holy smokes that is a long list!

    Anyway, quit focusing on details and facts Bob.  Everyone knows the guns are the real issue.

  9. Koala

    Big pharma has been given too much power.                                                           ———— Galatians 5:19-21:                 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity, and debauchery, idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. (NIV)

    The bolded word witchcraft above is the translation of the Greek word pharmacia, which refers to the usage of mind-altering drugs. It’s where our words pharmacy and pharmacuticals come from.  ——————-http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Where_does_the_word_pharmacia_appear_in_the_Greek_version_of_the_New_Testament

    • The Machine

      Good book also says:

      Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!  (Isaiah 5:20)


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