The following was a difficult read because justifies what’s in the vile minds of liberal racists and is also an example of what blacks call “dirty laundry”: bad stuff about black folk never to be said around whites.
The essay was posted on Craigslist and it’s the kind of truth that often is taken back out of PC fear….
Essay by a teacher in a black high school
*This is a repost from the rants and raves section from the Mobile, Alabama craigslist.*
The truth is usually a tough thing to accept, so I understand if this is flagged. It would be a cowardly thing to do, but I understand it. Some people just ignore unpleasant truths. However, if you think ignoring the problem, or trying to censor the truth, will help our black children improve, you’re dreaming. This is important, so I’m happy to repost – indefinitely if necessary. I find it interesting that NO ONE has had the intellect to refute anything in the essay. They can only attempt to censor it, as if doing so somehow makes it invalid. Weak minds, weak minds.
Until recently I taught at a predominantly black high school in a southeastern state.
The mainstream press gives a hint of what conditions are like in black schools, but only a hint. Expressions journalists use like “chaotic” or “poor learning environment” or “lack of discipline” do not capture what really happens. There is nothing like the day-to-day experience of teaching black children and that is what I will try to convey.
Most whites simply do not know what black people are like in large numbers, and the first encounter can be a shock.
One of the most immediately striking things about my students was that they were loud. They had little conception of ordinary decorum. It was not unusual for five blacks to be screaming at me at once. Instead of calming down and waiting for a lull in the din to make their point — something that occurs to even the dimmest white students — blacks just tried to yell over each other.
It did no good to try to quiet them, and white women were particularly inept at trying. I sat in on one woman’s class as she begged the children to pipe down. They just yelled louder so their voices would carry over hers.
Many of my black students would repeat themselves over and over again — just louder. It was as if they suffered from Tourette syndrome. They seemed to have no conception of waiting for an appropriate time to say something. They would get ideas in their heads and simply had to shout them out. I might be leading a discussion on government and suddenly be interrupted: “We gotta get more Democrats! Clinton, she good!” The student may seem content with that outburst but two minutes later, he would suddenly start yelling again: “Clinton good!”
Anyone who is around young blacks will probably get a constant diet of rap music. Blacks often make up their own jingles, and it was not uncommon for 15 black boys to swagger into a classroom, bouncing their shoulders and jiving back.
They were yelling back and forth, rapping 15 different sets of words in the same harsh, rasping dialect. The words were almost invariably a childish form of boasting: “Who got dem shine rim, who got dem shine shoe, who got dem shine grill (gold and silver dental caps)?” The amateur rapper usually ends with a claim–in the crudest terms imaginable — that all womankind is sexually devoted to him. For whatever reason, my students would often groan instead of saying a particular word, as in, “She suck dat aaahhhh (think of a long grinding groan), she f**k dat aaaahhhh, she lick dat aaaahhh.”
Black women love to dance — in a way white people might call gyrating. So many black girls dance in the hall, in the classroom, on the chairs, next to the chairs, under the chairs, everywhere. Once I took a call on my cell phone and had to step outside of class. I was away about two minutes but when I got back the black girls had lined up at the front of the classroom and were convulsing to the delight of the boys.
Many black people, especially black women, are enormously fat. Some are so fat I had to arrange special seating to accommodate their bulk. I am not saying there are no fat white students — there are — but it is a matter of numbers and attitudes. Many black girls simply do not care that they are fat. There are plenty of white anorexics, but I have never met or heard of a black anorexic.
“Black women be big Mr. Jackson,” my students would explain.
“Is it okay in the black community to be a little overweight?” I ask. Two obese black girls in front of my desk begin to dance, “You know dem boys lak juicy fruit, Mr. Jackson.” “Juicy” is a colorful black expression for the buttocks.
Blacks, on average, are the most directly critical people I have ever met: “Dat shirt stupid. Yo’ kid a bastard. Yo’ lips big.” Unlike whites, who tread gingerly around the subject of race, they can be brutally to the point. Once I needed to send a student to the office to deliver a message. I asked for volunteers, and suddenly you would think my classroom was a bastion of civic engagement. Thirty dark hands shot into the air. My students loved to leave the classroom and slack off, even if just for a few minutes, away from the eye of white authority. I picked a light-skinned boy to deliver the message. One very black student was indignant: “You pick da half-breed.” And immediately other blacks take up the cry, and half a dozen mouths are screaming, “He half-breed.”
For decades, the country has been lamenting the poor academic performance of blacks and there is much to lament. There is no question, however, that many blacks come to school with a serious handicap that is not their fault. At home they have learned a dialect that is almost a different language. Blacks not only mispronounce words; their grammar is often wrong. When a black wants to ask, “Where is the bathroom?” he may actually say “Whar da badroom be?” Grammatically, this is the equivalent of “Where the bathroom is?” And this is the way they speak in high school. Students write the way they speak, so this is the language that shows up in written assignments.
It is true that some whites face a similar handicap. They speak with what I would call a “country” accent that is hard to reproduce but results in sentences such as “I’m gonna gemme a Coke.” Some of these country whites had to learn correct pronunciation and usage. The difference is that most whites overcome this handicap and learn to speak correctly; many blacks do not.
Most of the blacks I taught simply had no interest in academic subjects. I taught history, and students would often say they didn’t want to do an assignment or they didn’t like history because it was all about white people. Of course, this was “diversity” history, in which every cowboy’s black cook got a special page on how he contributed to winning the West, but black children still found it inadequate. So I would throw up my hands and assign them a project on a real, historical black person. My favorite was Marcus Garvey. They had never heard of him, and I would tell them to research him, but they never did. They didn’t care and they didn’t want to do any work.
Anyone who teaches blacks soon learns that they have a completely different view of government from whites. Once I decided to fill 25 minutes by having students write about one thing the government should do to improve America. I gave this question to three classes totaling about 100 students, approximately 80 of whom were black. My few white students came back with generally “conservative” ideas. “We need to cut off people who don’t work,” was the most common suggestion. Nearly every black gave a variation on the theme of “We need more government services.”
My students had only the vaguest notion of who pays for government services. For them, it was like a magical piggy bank that never goes empty. One black girl was exhorting the class on the need for more social services and I kept trying to explain that people, real live people, are taxed for the money to pay for those services. “Yeah, it come from whites,” she finally said. “They stingy anyway.”
“Many black people make over $50,000 dollars a year and you would also be taking away from your own people,” I said.
She had an answer to that: “Dey half breed.” The class agreed. I let the subject drop.
Many black girls are perfectly happy to be welfare queens. On career day, one girl explained to the class that she was going to have lots of children and get fat checks from the government. No one in the class seemed to have any objection to this career choice.
Surprising attitudes can come out in class discussion. We were talking about the crimes committed in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, and I brought up the rape of a young girl in the bathroom of the Superdome. A majority of my students believed this was a horrible crime but a few took it lightly. One black boy spoke up without raising his hand: “Dat no big deal. They thought they is gonna die so they figured they have some fun. Dey jus’ wanna have a fun time; you know what I’m sayin’?” A few black heads nodded in agreement.
My department head once asked all the teachers to get a response from all students to the following question: “Do you think it is okay to break the law if it will benefit you greatly?” By then, I had been teaching for a while and was not surprised by answers that left a young, liberal, white woman colleague aghast. “Yeah” was the favorite answer. As one student explained, “Get dat green.”
There is a level of conformity among blacks that whites would find hard to believe. They like one kind of music: rap. They will vote for one political party: Democrat. They dance one way, speak one way, are loud the same way, and fail their exams in the same way. Of course, there are exceptions but they are rare.
Whites are different. Some like country music, others heavy metal, some prefer pop, and still others, God forbid, enjoy rap music. They have different associations, groups, almost ideologies. There are jocks, nerds, preppies, and hunters. Blacks are all — well — black, and they are quick to let other blacks know when they deviate from the norm.
One might object that there are important group differences among blacks that a white man simply cannot detect. I have done my best to find them, but so far as I can tell, they dress the same, talk the same, think the same. Certainly, they form rival groups, but the groups are not different in any discernible way. There simply are no groups of blacks that are as distinctly different from each other as white “nerds,” “hunters,” or “Goths,” for example.
How the world looks to blacks: One point on which all blacks agree is that everything is “racis’.” This is one message of liberalism they have absorbed completely. Did you do your homework? “Na, homework racis’.” Why did you get an F on the test? “Test racis’.”
I was trying to teach a unit on British philosophers and the first thing the students noticed about Bentham, Hobbes, and Locke was “Dey all white! Where da black philosopher a’?” I tried to explain there were no blacks in eighteenth century Britain. You can probably guess what they said to that: “Dat racis’!” One student accused me of deliberately failing him on a test because I didn’t like black people.
“Do you think I really hate black people?”
“Yeah.”
“Have I done anything to make you feel this way? How do you know?”
“You just do.”
“Why do you say that?”
He just smirked, looked out the window, and sucked air through his teeth. Perhaps this was a regional thing, but the blacks often sucked air through their teeth as a wordless expression of disdain or hostility.
My students were sometimes unable to see the world except through the lens of their own blackness. I had a class that was host to a German exchange student. One day he put on a Power Point presentation with famous German landmarks as well as his school and family.
From time to time during the presentation, blacks would scream, “Where da black folk?!” The exasperated German tried several times to explain that there were no black people where he lived in Germany. The students did not believe him. I told them Germany is in Europe, where white people are from, and Africa is where black people are from. They insisted that the German student was racist, and deliberately refused to associate with blacks.
Blacks are keenly interested in their own racial characteristics. I have learned, for example, that some blacks have “good hair.” Good hair is black parlance for black-white hybrid hair. Apparently, it is less kinky, easier to style, and considered more attractive. Blacks are also proud of light skin. Imagine two black students shouting insults across the room. One is dark but slim; the other light and obese. The dark one begins the exchange: “You fat, Ridario!” Ridario smiles, doesn’t deign to look at his detractor, shakes his head like a wobbling top, and says, “You wish you light skinned.”
They could go on like this, repeating the same insults over and over.
My black students had nothing but contempt for Hispanic immigrants. They would vent their feelings so crudely that our department strongly advised us never to talk about immigration in class in case the principal or some outsider might overhear.
Whites were “racis’,” of course, but they thought of us at least as Americans. Not the Mexicans. Blacks have a certain, not necessarily hostile understanding of white people. They know how whites act, and it is clear they believe whites are smart and are good at organizing things. At the same time, they probably suspect whites are just putting on an act when they talk about equality, as if it is all a sham that makes it easier for whites to control blacks. Blacks want a bigger piece of the American pie. I’m convinced that if it were up to them they would give whites a considerably smaller piece than whites get now, but they would give us something. They wouldn’t give Mexicans anything.
What about black boys and white girls? No one is supposed to notice this or talk about it but it is glaringly obvious: Black boys are obsessed with white girls. I’ve witnessed the following drama countless times. A black boy saunters up to a white girl. The cocky black dances around her, not really in a menacing way. It’s more a shuffle than a threat. As he bobs and shuffles he asks, “When you gonna go wit’ me?”
There are two kinds of reply. The more confident white girl gets annoyed, looks away from the black and shouts, “I don’t wanna go out with you!” The more demure girl will look at her feet and mumble a polite excuse but ultimately say no.
There is only one response from the black boy: “You racis’.” Many girls — all too many — actually feel guilty because they do not want to date blacks. Most white girls at my school stayed away from blacks, but a few, particularly the ones who were addicted to drugs, fell in with them.
There is something else that is striking about blacks. They seem to have no sense of romance, of falling in love. What brings men and women together is sex, pure and simple, and there is a crude openness about this. There are many degenerate whites, of course, but some of my white students were capable of real devotion and tenderness, emotions that seemed absent from blacks — especially the boys.
Black schools are violent and the few whites who are too poor to escape are caught in the storm. The violence is astonishing, not so much that it happens, but the atmosphere in which it happens. Blacks can be smiling, seemingly perfectly content with what they are doing, having a good time, and then, suddenly start fighting. It’s uncanny. Not long ago, I was walking through the halls and a group of black boys were walking in front of me. All of a sudden they started fighting with another group in the hallway.
Blacks are extraordinarily quick to take offense. Once I accidentally scuffed a black boy’s white sneaker with my shoe. He immediately rubbed his body up against mine and threatened to attack me. I stepped outside the class and had a security guard escort the student to the office. It was unusual for students to threaten teachers physically this way, but among themselves, they were quick to fight for similar reasons.
The real victims are the unfortunate whites caught in this. They are always in danger and their educations suffer. White weaklings are particularly susceptible, but mostly to petty violence. They may be slapped or get a couple of kicks when they are trying to open a bottom locker. Typically, blacks save the hard, serious violence for each other.
There was a lot of promiscuous sex among my students and this led to violence. Black girls were constantly fighting over black boys. It was not uncommon to see two girls literally ripping each other’s hair out with a police officer in the middle trying to break up the fight. The black boy they were fighting over would be standing by with a smile, enjoying the show he had created. For reasons I cannot explain, boys seldom fought over girls.
Pregnancy was common among the blacks, though many black girls were so fat I could not tell the difference. I don’t know how many girls got abortions, but when they had the baby they usually stayed in school and had their own parents look after the child. The school did not offer daycare.
Aside from the police officers constantly on patrol, a sure sign that you are in a black school is the coke cage: the chain-link fence that many majority-black schools use to protect vending machines. The cage surrounds the machine and even covers its top. Delivery employees have to unlock a gate on the front of the cage to service the machines. Companies would prefer not to build cages around vending machines. They are expensive, ugly, and a bother, but black students smashed the machines so many times it was cheaper to build a cage than repair the damage. Rumor had it that before the cages went up blacks would turn the machines upside down in the hope that the money would fall out.
Security guards are everywhere in black schools — we had one on every hall. They also sat in on unruly classes and escorted students to the office. They were unarmed, but worked closely with the three city police officers who were constantly on duty.
There was a lot of drug-dealing at my school. This was a good way to make a fair amount of money but it also gave boys power over girls who wanted drugs. An addicted girl — black or white — became the plaything of anyone who could get her drugs.
One of my students was a notorious drug dealer. Everyone knew it. He was 19 years old and in eleventh grade. Once he got a score of three out of 100 on a test. He had been locked up four times since he was 13.
One day, I asked him, “Why do you come to school?”
He wouldn’t answer. He just looked out the window, smiled, and sucked air through his teeth. His friend Yidarius ventured an explanation: “He get dat green and get dem females.”
“What is the green?” I asked. “Money or dope?” “Both,” said Yidarius with a smile.
A very fat black interrupted from across the room: “We get dat lunch,” Mr. Jackson. “We gotta get dat lunch and brickfuss.” He means the free breakfast and lunch poor students get every day. “Nigga, we know’d you be lovin’ brickfuss!” shouts another student.
Some readers may believe that I have drawn a cruel caricature of black students. After all, according to official figures some 85 percent of them graduate. It would be instructive to know how many of those scraped by with barely a C- record. They go from grade to grade and they finally get their diplomas because there is so much pressure on teachers to push them through. It saves money to move them along, the school looks good, and the teachers look good.
Many of these children should have been failed, but the system would crack under their weight if they were all held back.
How did my experiences make me feel about blacks? Ultimately, I lost sympathy for them. In so many ways they seem to make their own beds. There they were in an integrationist’s fantasy–in the same classroom with white students, eating the same lunch, using the same bathrooms, listening to the same teachers–and yet the blacks fail while the whites pass.
One tragic outcome among whites who have been teaching for too long is that it can engender something close to hatred. One teacher I knew gave up fast food–not for health reasons but because where he lived most fast-food workers were black. He had enough of blacks on the job. This was an extreme example but years of frustration can take their toll. Many of my white colleagues with any experience were well on their way to that state of mind.
There is an unutterable secret among teachers: Almost all realize that blacks do not respond to traditional white instruction. Does that put the lie to environmentalism? Not at all. It is what brings about endless, pointless innovation that is supposed to bring blacks up to the white level. The solution is more diversity–or put more generally, the solution is change. Change is an almost holy word in education, and you can fail a million times as long as you keep changing. That is why liberals keep revamping the curriculum and the way it is taught. For example, teachers are told that blacks need hands-on instruction and more group work.
Teachers are told that blacks are more vocal and do not learn through reading and lectures. The implication is that they have certain traits that lend themselves to a different kind of teaching.
Whites have learned a certain way for centuries but it just doesn’t work with blacks. Of course, this implies racial differences but if pressed, most liberal teachers would say different racial learning styles come from some indefinable cultural characteristic unique to blacks. Therefore, schools must change, America must change. But into what? How do you turn quantum physics into hands-on instruction or group work? No one knows, but we must keep changing until we find something that works.
Public school has certainly changed since anyone reading this was a student. I have a friend who teaches elementary school, and she tells me that every week the students get a new diversity lesson, shipped in fresh from some bureaucrat’s office in Washington or the state capital. She showed me the materials for one week: a large poster, about the size of a forty-two inch flat-screen television. It shows an utterly diverse group — I mean diverse: handicapped, Muslim, Jewish, effeminate, poor, rich, brown, slightly brown, yellow, etc.–sitting at a table, smiling gaily, accomplishing some undefined task. The poster comes with a sheet of questions the teacher is supposed to ask. One might be: “These kids sure look different, but they look happy. Can you tell me which one in the picture is an American?”
Some eight-year-old, mired in ignorance, will point to a white child like himself. “That one.”
The teacher reads from the answer, conveniently printed along with the question. “No, Billy, all these children are Americans. They are just as American as you.”
The children get a snack, and the poster goes up on the wall until another one comes a week later. This is what happens at predominately white, middle-class, elementary schools everywhere. Elementary school teachers love All of the Colors of the Race, by award-winning children’s poet Arnold Adoff.
These are some of the lines they read to the children: “Mama is chocolate . . . Daddy is vanilla . . . Me (sic) is better . . . It is a new color. It is a new flavor. For love. Sometimes blackness seems too black for me, and whiteness is too sickly pale; and I wish every one were golden. Remember: long ago before people moved and migrated, and mixed and matched . . . there was one people: one color, one race. The colors are flowing from what was before me to what will be after. All the colors.”
Teaching as a career: It may come as a surprise after what I have written, but my experiences have given me a deep appreciation for teaching as a career. It offers a stable, middle-class life but comes with the capacity to make real differences in the lives of children. In our modern, atomized world children often have very little communication with adults — especially, or even, with their parents — so there is potential for a real transaction between pupil and teacher, disciple and master.
A rewarding relationship can grow up between an exceptional, interested student and his teacher. I have stayed in my classroom with a group of students discussing ideas and playing chess until the janitor kicked us out. I was the old gentleman, imparting my history, culture, personal loves and triumphs, defeats and failures to young kinsman. Sometimes I fancied myself Tyrtaeus, the Spartan poet, who counseled the youth to honor and loyalty. I never had this kind intimacy with a black student, and I know of no other white teacher who did.
Teaching can be fun. For a certain kind of person it is exhilarating to map out battles on chalkboards, and teach heroism. It is rewarding to challenge liberal prejudices, to leave my mark on these children, but what I aimed for with my white students I could never achieve with the blacks.
There is a kind of child whose look can melt your heart: some working-class castaway, in and out of foster homes, often abused, who is nevertheless almost an angel. Your heart melts for these children, this refuse of the modern world.
Many white students possess a certain innocence; their cheeks still blush. Try as I might, I could not get the blacks to care one bit about Beethoven or Sherman’s march to the sea, or Tyrtaeus, or Oswald Spengler, or even liberals like John Rawls, or their own history. They cared about nothing I tried to teach them. When this goes on year after year it chokes the soul out of a teacher, destroys his pathos, and sends him guiltily searching for The Bell Curve on the Internet.
Blacks break down the intimacy that can be achieved in the classroom, and leave you convinced that that intimacy is really a form of kinship. Without intending to, they destroy what is most beautiful–whether it be your belief in human equality, your daughter’s innocence, or even the state of the hallway.
Just last year I read on the bathroom stall the words “F**k Whitey.” Not two feet away, on the same stall, was a small swastika.
The National Council for the Social Studies, the leading authority on social science education in the United States, urges teachers to inculcate such values as equality of opportunity, individual property rights, and a democratic form of government. Even if teachers could inculcate this milquetoast ideology into whites, liberalism is doomed because so many non-whites are not receptive to education of any kind beyond the merest basics.
It is impossible to get them to care about such abstractions as property rights or democratic citizenship. They do not see much further than the fact that you live in a big house and “we in da pro-jek.” Of course, there are a few loutish whites who will never think past their next meal and a few sensitive blacks for whom anything is possible, but no society takes on the characteristics of its exceptions.
Once I asked my students, “What do you think of the Constitution?” “It white,” one slouching black rang out. The class began to laugh. And I caught myself laughing along with them, laughing while Pompeii’s volcano simmers, while the barbarians swell around the Palatine, while the country I love, and the job I love, and the community I love become dimmer by the day.
I read a book by an expatriate Rhodesian who visited Zimbabwe not too many years ago. Traveling with a companion, she stopped at a store along the highway. A black man materialized next to her car window. “Job, boss, (I) work good, boss,” he pleaded. “You give job.”
“What happened to your old job?” the expatriate white asked. The black man replied in the straightforward manner of his race: “We drove out the whites. No more jobs. You give job.”
At some level, my students understand the same thing. One day I asked the bored, black faces staring back at me. “What would happen if all the white people in America disappeared tomorrow?”
“We screwed,” a young, pitch-black boy screamed back. The rest of the blacks laughed.
I have had children tell me to my face as they struggled with an assignment. “I cain’t do dis,” Mr. Jackson. “I black.”
The point is that human beings are not always rational. It is in the black man’s interest to have whites in Zimbabwe but he drives them out and starves. Most whites do not think black Americans could ever do anything so irrational. They see blacks on television smiling, fighting evil whites, embodying white values. But the real black is not on television, and you pull your purse closer when you see him, and you lock the car doors when he swaggers by with his pants hanging down almost to his knees.
For those of you with children, better a smaller house in a white district than a fancy one near a black school.
I have been in parent-teacher conferences that broke my heart: the child pleading with his parents to take him out of school; the parents convinced their child’s fears are groundless. If you love your child, show her you care — not by giving her fancy vacations or a car, but making her innocent years safe and happy. Give her the gift of a not-heavily black school.
Wow.
Awesome story. Loved reading it. Blacks are doing their best. Really thanks for sharing.
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I find this interesting how one minor point in a person’s comment (about Mitt) has become the focal point of everyone’s anger. Having been raised in the Bay Area, and having both black and white friends, I agree with this writer. I found NO errors in his observations. None. Remember, these are stated observations. Not hyperbole. Excluding the miniscule few, black males ARE obsessed with “getting” white females, blacks DON’T want to work for their keep, blacks ARE more violent, blacks will NOT work to help themselves, blacks DO want babies to get the green, blacks feel entitled, blacks hate whites for NO other reason than they were trained that way, black culture and white cultures do not mix. Now, there are a few isolated cases where none of this is true, but we’re talking about the norm. What is the “norm” for this race? Violence, hatred, envy, etc. I will not comment on this presidential administration only to say that Obama has not experienced prejudice nearly to the extent the average black has. I am all for standing up to racism. Not with violence but with intelligence. Speak out when you see it. Say something respectfully but say it. Protect ANYONE that is being discriminated against. Show love and respect.
So, in conclusion, generally, blacks are ignorant.. by choice. And, until they choose to fight back with intelligence and grace, they will be constrained in this society.
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I find this interesting how one minor point in a person’s comment (about Mitt) has become the focal point of everyone’s anger. Having been raised in the Bay Area, and having both black and white friends, I agree with this writer. I found NO errors in his observations. None. Remember, these are stated observations. Not hyperbole. Excluding the miniscule few, black males ARE obsessed with “getting” white females, blacks DON’T want to work for their keep, blacks ARE more violent, blacks will NOT work to help themselves, blacks DO want babies to get the green, blacks feel entitled, blacks hate whites for NO other reason than they were trained that way, black culture and white cultures do not mix. Now, there are a few isolated cases where none of this is true, but we’re talking about the norm. What is the “norm” for this race? Violence, hatred, envy, etc. I will not comment on this presidential administration only to say that Obama has not experienced prejudice nearly to the extent the average black has. I am all for standing up to racism. Not with violence but with intelligence. Speak out when you see it. Say something respectfully but say it. Protect ANYONE that is being discriminated against. Show love and respect.
So, in conclusion, generally, blacks are ignorant.. by choice. And, until they choose to fight back with intelligence and grace, they will be constrained in this society.>
I totally agree. Years ago my sister was divorced and had 4 children. No child support. She had a job that paid about 15k. She went to get assistance and was told she made too much and needed to quit her job. Now instead of the system being set up to help her until she received annual raises and could sustain herself it wanted her to be completely dependent on government assistance. That way she was stuck and always stagnant.
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I totally agree. Years ago my sister was divorced and had 4 children. No child support. She had a job that paid about 15k. She went to get assistance and was told she made too much and needed to quit her job. Now instead of the system being set up to help her until she received annual raises and could sustain herself it wanted her to be completely dependent on government assistance. That way she was stuck and always stagnant.
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Get a job Andre!
In the U.S., I, as an American in the suburbs, can drive through the city and say, “that black is a drug dealer. Or look at those blacks tearing down their town in angry, violent protest.” In Greece, I as a Greek, would only be able to say, “look at that poor, uneducated person dealing drugs, or look at my fellow country folk, tearing down their house. He or she is my brother or sister.” Committing any of our America brothers and sisters who happen to be black, Latino, or whatever, to the Other is an ignorant, lazy and myopic grasp of the world we live in.
I would suggest to every reader and commenter here that the “differences” between whites and blacks so speciously crystallized above exist between some blacks and some whites, but not all of them. But the true difference between the subjects of the above article and it’s author is, quite simply, money. And the money is a vehicle that carries out the socioeconomic and political realities of life in the suburbs, or life in the inner city.
I am white from Minnesota. I challenge you to find any person with black skin who is less like me than my white cousin down in Hicksville, Indiana.
In the U.S., I, as an American in the suburbs, can drive through the city and say, “that black is a drug dealer. Or look at those blacks tearing down their town in angry, violent protest.” In Greece, I as a Greek, would only be able to say, “look at that poor, uneducated person dealing drugs, or look at my fellow country folk, tearing down their house. He or she is my brother or sister.” Committing any of our America brothers and sisters who happen to be black, Latino, or whatever, to the Other is an ignorant, lazy and myopic grasp of the world we live in.
I would suggest to every reader and commenter here that the “differences” between whites and blacks so speciously crystallized above exist between some blacks and some whites, but not all of them. But the true difference between the subjects of the above article and it’s author is, quite simply, money. And the money is a vehicle that carries out the socioeconomic and political realities of life in the suburbs, or life in the inner city.
I am white from Minnesota. I challenge you to find any person with black skin who is less like me than my white cousin down in Hicksville, Indiana.
Dat nigger Dre a bus’er! Mahafacker be strapped with da shotta, aiggght. Y’all better not fuck with mr NWA. He b bus’in’ a cap at yo white crackha ass.
Listen up black people, slavery ended a century and a half ago, stop using it as a crutch to excuse your obvious flaws. Get over it! Get your backside down to recruitment center and get a job at your favourite place, KFC. Then you will achieve some balance in your life, and won’t have to blame evil whitey for your failings and very shortcomings.
85% of blacks WORK. Like I said, your level of delusion is AMAZAING.
It wouldn’t matter if we were 100% employed and committed less crime than whites, you would still hate us. You would just find another stupid justification for the hate. Stop lying to yourself.
Working at what? Filing up the prisons? Dealing drugs? Random raping? The odd job “clipping” each other with the boom boxes blasting out in their pj’s?
Lol, unemployment for blacks is 12.6% If you could do math that means that 87% of black people are working.
I know that hurts your feelings because you wish all blacks were unemployed. Sorry to burst your bubble.
No, that means 100% are all living on the plantation like good little niggraws 🙂
You are starting to become hysterical now because it is the only way you can combat facts with stupidity.
If you don’t like being wrong…either stop responding to me, or stop being a white supremacists. Those are the only two options.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. This is how hysterical I am. I went to have a beer and chill on my porch to watch the sun set. I came in and checked my emails,, clocked back on here and saw you added another two comments to the debate. This will be my last comment. I have to be at work early. But I’m sure you will be here tomorrow, hysterically bashing away at your keyboard, just like you have been for over the last 11 months. What a sad little scrotum you are, typical negro.
I thought it was a long shot to get you to abandon the white supremacist delusions….at least you took my advice on not coming back. Thanks
A little understanding about how unemployment percentages work will help you a little to better understand the landscape. As of May, 62% of the black population are capable of or are trying to get a job. The rest are children, old people, encarcerated or are not looking. Of that 62%, 85% have jobs. Probably about a third of black people that can work, do not.
Why do you say that Andre? Where are your facts to back your opinion?
Why does Andre accuse everyone of being racist? He has replied to every comment on here, and this article is well over year old. e is still commenting now, which leads me to believe he has no job, and the broadband he is using is paid for by the evil whitey taxpayer.
Everything stated in this article is true. Despair America.
I grew up in various parts of Los Angeles county and truly value the diversity that I experienced. From K through 12. My classmates were black American, black African, Isreali, Lebanese, Armenian, Chinese, Japanese, Arabic… you name it. Mutual friends all of us…even the Isreali and Lebanese girls (girls who seemed like sisters more than friends). I never experienced any racial prejudice except from white people; but not every single one of them. Some just had a better command of their predisposed notions, not projecting them in such an obvious manner. And many were just plain, genuinely good people. Having a sheriffs narcotics detective for a mentor (who was American of Mexican descent, but showed prejudice only for blacks but not whites) for most of my childhood into my teens, I learned from him how to read people quite well. Studying psychology later in college helped me to refine this skill. Let me tell you, there is prejudice in ALL OF US, BUT NOT NECESSARILY RACISM. Prejudice and racism (not to be confused with the adjective, “racial” are two concepts (nouns) that (due to academic ignorance and the break down in peoples written and verbal communication) are often confused for one another by the great majority of people. They walk a similar path, but are very different. One term references predisposed biases (either factually or ignorantly based), and the other term promotes the assumed superiority of one group over another in addition to imposing economic and/or social dominance by the group that is purported to be superior. Who here can distinguish between the two definitions? Many cannot, and I feel that this is just one small part of a huge problem with the HUMAN RACE today. The most difficult challenge is to view and approach PEOPLE as PEOPLE!; and while I cannot argue with much of what the author has written (having seen many, many examples of such behavior) this is the one fatal flaw in this “educators” writing; and that is that he does not see PEOPLE (and I can hardly fault him for that), but he sees only “blacks”. And while I read very little that could allow me to support any tone of racism, as he does mention having observed similar behavior in other “classifications” of PEOPLE, the prejudice is quite obvious. Again, having my own confessed prejudices, I can hardly fault him. But I too have observed these behaviors in many other people (of various back ground) all over the world. I’ve traveled quite a bit, and I am of the opinion that, while what he describes as a grossly disproportionate trait of the particular classification of people to which he frequently refers with reference to pigment, I feel that it is a HUMAN PROBLEM and not a BLACK one. It is not my intent to attack this person, as I feel complete EMPATHY for him (although I do not detect any on his part). I say this because the one thing that is not addressed in this well written piece of his is the questions “HOW DID IT COME TO THIS?”, “what circumstances, either social, historical, anthropological, etc contributed to this human wretchedness; not just where he lives but also in so many other places (outside of the American bubble) in the world (to which the author has likely not traveled)?” Just like modern “medicine” these days, we fixate on the symptoms of a disease rather than face the difficult task of identifying and eliminating the CAUSES! And why? Because it takes more work and effort to do so than it does to bitch about and simply TREAT or exacerbate the symptoms. I have seen human wretchedness in all skin colors, and on all social and economic levels. And it is a HUMAN PROBLEM! It is extremely challenging for anyone (including myself) to rise above our human weaknesses and ignorance; and to evolve in order to see PEOPLE AS PEOPLE; and even more challenging to reflect back upon our own flaws, in the institutions, establishments, conditions, and circumstances (from which people like the author and myself have mostly benefited) that have (WITHOUT MUCH EMPATHY) brought PEOPLE everywhere, to such wretchedness. To the Author, I say, very well written. I envy your skill and I can see that you have a gifted mind. DON’T LIMIT IT TO SEEING ONLY IN BLACK AND WHITE; especially when the color “HUMAN” IS SO DIVERSE AND BRILLIANT. If it is within your means, Pursue a Masters (if you do not already have one) or PHD in humanities, ethics, or literature. It would be a waste of your good mind not to do so.
Read that garbage not all black folks fall into this category, I attended all my sons parent teachers conference, yes I do agree on some level some people have no dacorum but please this writer is attempting to put all blacks in the same barrel. She’s basing her experience on her situation.
Yeah and you blacks make excuses and say it doesn’t happen.Get used to reality before them demonic beasts take you and your family down with them,you know it’s true.
Yeah and you whatever your race is view the world with roses colored glasses on, like I said before all black folks don’t fit in your category and you know that’s the truth some of us teach our children how to behave and to respect others.
Yes I am sorry.You are right.
I know a few great black people my self..
The white race aint so great,
they’ve proven to be pretty evil.
but what can we do?It’ll all be over soon
Dacorum? Is that how blacks pronounce it?
I’ll never fully trust one of them animals again,after seeing them all cry for slug trayvon and calling muslim obama their savior
I found some information,It makes a lot of sense,It explains a lot.
Adam and Eve have only their own seed within themselves, so can only produce their own kind. Yet we are asked by intellectual prostitutes to believe that all races came from Adam and Eve. To produce another race or species, another seed would be necessary. When different races mix, they do not bring forth their own kind; their offspring are mongrels or hybrids. This is a transgression against Divine Law, upsetting Nature’s delicate balance and producing THAT WHICH IS NOT GOOD. Little wonder that, so often in the past, God has destroyed His own children for mongrelizing, and, you can be sure, He will again.
We could go on indefinitely quoting Scripture to prove that the negro is merely an articulate member of the beast creation. Even though he has not been given the intelligence and Spiritual understanding of the White Race, he can think and reason up to a point, therefore he is to have dominion over the other animals.
Let us give credit where credit is due, the negro is King, KING OF THE BEASTS.
For proof that they are beasts, and God calls them exactly that, may I refer you to the following passages:
http://israelect.com/ChurchOfTrueIsrael/verboten/vb-03.html
If that’s the case, why are you here?
What’s that supposed to mean?
I feel very badly about this essay. I have several black friends that worked very hard to pick themselves up out of poverty. They are very successful. If the children do not receive positive guidance from their parents, teachers, reverends and each other, then there is no hope for them or America.
You do get the odd few that buck the trend, as the writer of this article clearly points out.
“, but no society takes on the characteristics of its exceptions.”
This is the best quote I have heard in awhile.
What an excellent essay. Unfortunately, people who have only a book knowledge of blacks will not be able to comprehend this tragedy.
Blacks have very low IQs. That’s a fact. Even the somewhat more intelligent of them think totally “black” though. I know a black woman, extremely religious, seemingly smart, raised and lives around whites. She still voted for Obama twice and doesn’t see ANY conflict with her religious views for doing so. There is no hope for any of these people. The intelligent ones (Sowell, Thomas, Williams, etc.) are the exception. The only thing whites can do is to live as far away from them as possible.
THANK YOU for being honest. I attended a predominantly black school system growing up. I’m white and was targeted almost daily by low-life black racist thugs. I’m not saying all the blacks I met were thugs – but certainly a majority of them were and this was 40 years ago. The problem is that you can’t reason with these animals – they have no humanity or decency. Look at black on white crimes and violence (see DOJ). It’s only been getting worse since the civil rights act. Yet the PC lamestream media largely choses to ignore the problem, or turns it around and has the audacity to call us racist for pointing out a BIG problem..
when have you last seen bad karma Obammunist go into the
hood and allot funds to clean it up and provide jobs? NOT ONCE!!!! But…170
times on the golf course with rich white banksta gangsta and Wall Street crooks
letting them rob the treasury. Shame on those who fall for the scam. Ffollow
clowns and they’ll lead you to a circus. Welcome to the big top of dumbocRATS! There’s
Allen West, Dr. Benson and so many other good black leaders and we voted for a
half white lowlife raised by Communist parents and an Islamic teaching. But he’s da brotha. Sorry, I
couldn’t resist.
Blacks are feral and will be eradicated from amerikka when all hell breaks loose: you don’t believe me, stick around. Whitey finishes what he starts.
Blacks are feral and will be eradicated from amerikka when all hell breaks loose: you don’t believe me, stick around. Whitey finishes what he starts.
I couldn’t stop laughing, but tragically, everything written in this article is true.
I couldn’t stop laughing, but tragically, everything written in this article is true.
I spent 7-8 minutes reading the political argument that was born from this tragic cry for help, and I gave up trying to care about the politics some people think have created this environment.
the only thing I will say is that politics, left, right, up your ass, it doesn’t matter because this is an artificially created situation by those who control America’s finances and public opinion. or at least what we’re told is public opinion.
the fact that this teacher is subjected to a horrendously agonizing torture at least 5 days a week is inexcusable. most teachers decide to pursue pedagogy as a career, not because of the mountains of cash to be made, but because they have an honest love for learning and the academic arts.
to watch a group of people as a whole consistently defile, debase, debauch, deform and outright rape one of the things he holds to the highest esteem deserves nothing but our pity and our empathy. (note I did not say sympathy.) yet day after day he is forced to fight a battle that was lost from day one. as a young aspiring intellectual grinding out the 6 years it takes to become a highschool teacher, I bet he had no idea he was going to be wasting his time trying to “ejumakayt’um dem blackies”.
English was my major in college. I was going to teach…. until I learned the current state of affairs is a sinking ship and it would be 6 years of my life I would never get back, plus its been my experience if you care about the English language, have a public library, and are literate enough to understand most words encountered, you really don’t need an English course as anything more than a formality.
if this guy wants to teach students who actually want to learn, he ought to start looking overseas. those kids, or their parents, seem to know what’s important.
of course, by important, I mean what is important to us white folk, and apparently Asians hold some of the same standards. segregation really is the way to go, that way each body of students can receive the education curriculum that they need. I would love to see a teacher stand in front of a group of 30-40 black teenagers and say something like “may I have your attention please, NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP! good, now that you little nigglets are listening ive got some information that very likely SAVE YOUR ASS in the future, so you better pay attention as best you motherfucking monkeys can.”
I guarantee that would get their attention. why? because its using the same format that they operate in, plus I doubt they’re used to honesty from whites. (if your reading this teacher-man, it’s why that kid insisted your racist and simply not being honest. because it true.)
meanwhile whites can obtain the traditional instruction that has been effective in the transference of idea’s and ideals for centuries.
BUT,(holy Christ, that turned into a rant. sorry, and thanks if your still reading) I guarantee that the system must break before true reform can happen. simply passing these crude human beings and getting them out of the school system is counter-productive to enacting real effective change. not only does it poison our society and bring standards down as a whole, but it gives the government the numbers it needs to show evidence that this method of schooling works.
in closing, I would to say that I really doubt your students would fault you for being openly racist, they all understand the race issues at hand and are doing their best to discuss it, albeit in what whites would consider an unrefined manner. they understand that your not black, and are fundamentally different from them. they might even afford you some respect as one of the few honest white people out there.
good luck
My experience exactly while teaching at mosby middle school in richmond in the early 70,s
Blacks are doing their best to live up to the “N” word stereotype, and I’m probably “racis” for saying that.
This has to be one of the worst articles about black people I have ever read. Yes, the author is right in a sense that a lot of black people act in such a way. But why do they act like this? Well whom do they have to look up to nowadays? Black people have rappers, reality T.V. personalities, athletes, the neighborhood drug dealer, alcoholic moms who went through pregnancy in her teens, either no dad or abusive dad, and the list can go on. The civil rights movement was one of the most monumental times of black history. You had BLACK men such as Martin King Luther Jr., Malcom X, Bayard Rustin, A. Philip Randolph who stood for something that young black men could be proud of. Due to segregation, there were black people who were dentists, doctors, store owners etc. Because of this, people had the older generation to look up to. But what happen with desegregation? Less black people in this occupations. White people on the other hand have an endless list of people who they can look up to as an example of how to act. Generations and generations of STEM and other professionals who live in functional families with nice house, and in most cases no care in the world. Do white people feel like they are being weighed down by a statistic? NO. Do white people get judged by the color of their skin? NO. Most white people are taught how to spend, invest, and save their money, but many blacks only know one thing: spend.
The point that I’m trying to make is that it is going to take a black person(s) to step up to the plate, and become relatable to the younger generation. Someone who will be able to show that hey I like to rap, I like to play sports, but guess what else? I’m an engineer, I’m a doctor, I’m a scientist. And yes, yes, there are plenty of those, but I mean someone who will do something great like Steve Jobs did with Apple. We need a role model who stands for something great, instead of sex, drugs, and alcohol. The people who need to be targeted are the ones who’s mind have yet to be molded. Yes, there is Obama who has done a great job as most first black presidents would in the white house. I mean you have to figure… How many rich and powerful black billionaire friends does he have? And FYI, there are only 7 black billionaires out of a total 11,000 billionaires in the world. And you could argue, what does that have to do with anything? And I would laugh, because how do you think a lot of white politicians get so rich? Anyway, President Obama is about just as white as any other white person I know. He’s not Relatable to a lot of poor black people.
And to the author, I think it is very insulting to me and all black people, as a young intelligent black man that you would claim that ALL black people act in such a way. You claim to be revealing the issue, but it seems like this was written for the sake of blowing off steam.
There are plenty of black role models out there, but the media does their best to shut them up and disgrace them as much as possible. Allen West? Ben Carson? Larry Elder? Thomas Sowell? I mean thats four of dozens I could think of, but Liberals, as quickly as they can, label them as Uncle Toms and traitors. Conservatives like myself point to them and say, “There you go. It can be done, and it can be done well.” Like King, Rustin, and Randolph before them, they provide exceptional role models for the black community, but because Liberals stay in power by keeping black people down, these individuals are seen as a threat and silenced immediately.
Instead we have people like Donna Edwards and Eric Holder and Al Sharpton claiming racism at every turn, and blaming white people for every problem when they darn well know the only way the black community can turn its situation is for an entire generation of black parents to say enough is enough. Fathers must stay home, teenagers can’t be getting pregnant, gangster rap cannot be revered, Church communities must be promoted, education MUST be a top priority, and lastly.. don’t spoil your damn kids. Force them to take responsibility for their actions. But all of this will never happen, as long as the media keeps Black people down by convincing them they are all victimized all the time by everyone, and there is still so much for them to fight for before they can reach “equality.”
There is nobody to blame for the current state of affairs but the Progressive Liberal Democrats. They have been planting these seeds since the 70’s and now this destructive culture is here to stay for a long time.
This has to be one of the worst articles about black people I have ever read. Yes, the author is right in a sense that a lot of black people act in such a way. But why do they act like this? Well whom do they have to look up to nowadays? Black people have rappers, reality T.V. personalities, athletes, the neighborhood drug dealer, alcoholic moms who went through pregnancy in her teens, either no dad or abusive dad, and the list can go on. The civil rights movement was one of the most monumental times of black history. You had BLACK men such as Martin King Luther Jr., Malcom X, Bayard Rustin, A. Philip Randolph who stood for something that young black men could be proud of. Due to segregation, there were black people who were dentists, doctors, store owners etc. Because of this, people had the older generation to look up to. But what happen with desegregation? Less black people in this occupations. White people on the other hand have an endless list of people who they can look up to as an example of how to act. Generations and generations of STEM and other professionals who live in functional families with nice house, and in most cases no care in the world. Do white people feel like they are being weighed down by a statistic? NO. Do white people get judged by the color of their skin? NO. Most white people are taught how to spend, invest, and save their money, but many blacks only know one thing: spend.
The point that I’m trying to make is that it is going to take a black person(s) to step up to the plate, and become relatable to the younger generation. Someone who will be able to show that hey I like to rap, I like to play sports, but guess what else? I’m an engineer, I’m a doctor, I’m a scientist. And yes, yes, there are plenty of those, but I mean someone who will do something great like Steve Jobs did with Apple. We need a role model who stands for something great, instead of sex, drugs, and alcohol. The people who need to be targeted are the ones who’s mind have yet to be molded. Yes, there is Obama who has done a great job as most first black presidents would in the white house. I mean you have to figure… How many rich and powerful black billionaire friends does he have? And FYI, there are only 7 black billionaires out of a total 11,000 billionaires in the world. And you could argue, what does that have to do with anything? And I would laugh, because how do you think a lot of white politicians get so rich? Anyway, President Obama is about just as white as any other white person I know. He’s not Relatable to a lot of poor black people.
And to the author, I think it is very insulting to me and all black people, as a young intelligent black man that you would claim that ALL black people act in such a way. You claim to be revealing the issue, but it seems like this was written for the sake of blowing off steam.
I find this interesting how one minor point in a person’s comment (about Mitt) has become the focal point of everyone’s anger. Having been raised in the Bay Area, and having both black and white friends, I agree with this writer. I found NO errors in his observations. None. Remember, these are stated observations. Not hyperbole. Excluding the miniscule few, black males ARE obsessed with “getting” white females, blacks DON’T want to work for their keep, blacks ARE more violent, blacks will NOT work to help themselves, blacks DO want babies to get the green, blacks feel entitled, blacks hate whites for NO other reason than they were trained that way, black culture and white cultures do not mix. Now, there are a few isolated cases where none of this is true, but we’re talking about the norm. What is the “norm” for this race? Violence, hatred, envy, etc. I will not comment on this presidential administration only to say that Obama has not experienced prejudice nearly to the extent the average black has. I am all for standing up to racism. Not with violence but with intelligence. Speak out when you see it. Say something respectfully but say it. Protect ANYONE that is being discriminated against. Show love and respect.
So, in conclusion, generally, blacks are ignorant.. by choice. And, until they choose to fight back with intelligence and grace, they will be constrained in this society.
Absolutely incredible story !
I replied this to the doktor, but I felt it needed to be posted…..
Calling any one ethnic group, more racist then another in a world of division and separation is like trying to point out one ANT among millions. This race thing is a world issue that has the powers that be,(who ever that may be) running all of us like pawns on a chess board. Whether your statement is true or not. It is not the issue. No disrespect, just a fact. love and peace.
Sounds to me that you are advocating racial separation, of which I agree !
NOPE!!! sounds to me like you are one that advocates arguing. Im not down for that either. I do not know how you seen what you said. but surely your comment was to spark some kind silliness. NOPE to your comment.
Sorry to disappoint you “guest” but my reply was in no way argumentative, but your grammatically ignorant reply seems to suggest that the article may be describing a classroom that you occupied and wasted the efforts of the taxpayers to educate you…I guess you weren’t “down for that” either !
I have not even read the article. Just by reading these comments the observation? Racism is neither dead nor is it on the dying side. Its truly horrible that in this year of 2013, by the comments on this site, After 270 some odd years of so called jelling together we Americans ( i use the term lightly) are still as separated as we were eons ago. And you ask why the country is dying. Oh we are suppose to be a GOD fearing country. So ask yourself the question,,, Would a all loving GOD bless such hypocrites? And we actually call this social growth? How sad. 🙁 . NO MATTER WHAT COLOR YOU ARE we are brothers and sisters and WE ARE SLEEP. On all levels SLEEP. How SAD………:( love and peace, said with a heavy heart. Love and Peace.
Every Korean family I know here in town showed up broke, unable to even speak english and in the ten year since they arrived they are all driving nice cars and have a chain of dry cleaning stores. The American dream is not about free things it is about the opportunity through freedom to work and make yourself what ever you want. Blaming people who work hard for not giving enough to people who do not work at all is not what this country has ever been about. That is not about color it applies to those who work hard and those who don’t. There is no excuse, using racism to justify lack of effort may work in the short term to get $20 hr working at McDs but inflation keeps up with the poor economic decisions we make to pacify those unwilling to try. Say what you want, it is what it is. The proof is there for you to see if you are finished blaming everyone else for their actions, or lack there of.
Joe, if a person spends 40 years of his life paying taxes in this country how on earth is getting assistance when NEEDED taking anything from someone who works hard?
How incredibly sad. My hometown school where I went and sent my son is predominately white, the blacks that are there are from 2 parent homes.. and there is no difference in grades or behavior. The difference, I believe is a father in the home. Those children were born valued and wanted.. not a meal ticket. I hope in my lifetime I see a change in the black community.
That was a fair response. However, it is not about 2 parent homes. It is about economics. Let me explain.
In 1965 the out of wedlock rate for blacks was about 24% the poverty rate was 36%. In 2012 the out of wedlock rate for blacks was 72% the poverty rate was 27%. If there was a correlation or even causation of babies being born out of wedlock and the poverty rate then when the out of wedlock rate tripled , the poverty rate would have rose in some way ..even if it was not 1 to 1. The fact that it dropped IN SPITE of the out of wedlock rate rising illustrates that there is very little correlation and ZERO causation.
Now if you look at the difference between affluent single parent homes and poor 2 parent homes, you will also see that the scores and graduation rates are still higher in the single parent AFFLUENT homes. I’m sorry I don’t have those numbers but they are out there.
Although, i understand the frustration of the author, he makes poor assumption and bigoted statements that are simply not true. I am not discounting his experience. I am just saying since only 27% of Blacks are in poverty these days and even all of those are not failing schools it is MATHEMATICALLY impossible for the “majority” of black students to be as he describes.
I agree there needs to be some “more” change in the black community but we are only 40 years from Jim Crow….we need a little more time to reach some of the people whose minds are still enslaved by ignorance and animosity.
Maybe in the affluent homes it took a real education to get there and the parent instills that? That would be true of any race, actually.
I wonder too.. i see on the news in my city of Indy.. the constant murder and mayhem in the parts of town that are predominately black whether just the constant stress of living in that environment effects the brain. I say that as a person who had a terribly abusive marriage and that effected my ability to remember things.. cope in any setting.. ect.
I dont know.. like I said.. its sad.. very sad the wasted lives of so many.
Of course more stressful environments make it more difficult for people to excel in any area, much less school, so I agree with that assessment. But, again, my belief is economics help in all situations except how we love each other. Domestic violence falls under the “loving each other” category. I am truly sorry you we through the tragedy of abuse. All women should be treated like queens and cherished as treasures.
Lastly, you have to resist the inclination to accept what the media portrays as the entire truth. Last year Blacks committed 4129 murders and whites committed 4000. In every other violent crime category white people committed almost 3 times as many in terms of sheer number. Given those numbers, does it make you wonder why you mostly only see news about the black crime unless it is a mass shooting? It is about ratings…not truth.
Thank you. I’m fine now. That much stress must make things look pretty hopeless. What does that stress do to a child whose brain hasnt even fully formed?
Media lies to us all the time.. agreed.. sadly.. we cant believe anything they tell us anymore. God bless.
Great question! Take care.
I teach technical subjects in a community college. The single biggest impediment to progress that I see blacks face is the almost total lack of math skills. Get a further technical education, a certificate, a diploma, a license… and it opens up so many doors to good jobs, higher pay, a good living…. Electrical skills are one of the most highly valued skills in industry… But it ain’t gonna happen without the math.
Math be racis! Made up by da ol white man! I be slanging dem greens and my baby momma be cashing them Obama checks for money! Jobs? Jobs be racis! I ain’t no slave and I never got my forty acres and a Mule anyways.
and when the system can no longer support people for doing nothing, and you have no job skills,and no way to feed yourself, I suppose that starving is racist, too.?
This is EXACTLY why I let my two girls drop out of school and go for
their GED when they were a sophomore and junior in high school which was
becoming predominantly black.
This is EXACTLY why I let my two girls drop out of school and go for their GED when they were a sophomore and junior in high school which was becoming predominantly black.
It is understandable why children are leaving school worse off than when they started. If this person is an example of the teachers who are teaching our children of all races and cultures, then it is understandable, because ignorance begets ignorance.
Typical response from a totally dishonest person. YOU enable the above, you freak.
It sounds to me like the black kids shouldn’t be in school. At a certain age, barring the exceptional students, they should go to work performing menial labor. Not to sound racist, but field work is suitable. It requires the least amount of management to engage the most amount of people. The idle mind (and hand) is the devils workshop.
an us brothas lub all de wite girl teechas – sho nuff does
Wite teechers be racciss – black stoodents be jus as smarder dan wite stoodents – an de las tess ayes done did aye gotz an A+ on de muahfugga – sho deed, ah hum, dats be right, foe reel, yessah – yo.
heell yeah nggar, dat be fo sho’
Political correctness does NO ONE any favors.
Nothing has changed in raising children except one thing, discipline. Kids today can not be disciplined at all. I am not talking about race, just kids in general. All kids today know if mommy or daddy raise a hand to me they just need to make a call. The power is in the kids hands and they know it. The same goes for the schools, I am not saying bring back the ruler or switch to abuse the kids. But the kids are running wild in the class room, and it is all races.
Lmao, there is a guy on here calling people N*gg** lovers!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. It must be a really horrible life to be stuck in the 60’s and having the world pass you by. I feel sorry for these people.
dayum nicca, is yo be foe reel? up in hey arguing wiff de wite folks like yo is. an loosin lika mubafugga too. wut up daawg???? splain yo nappy headed self. yo.
You racist white people even suck at pretending to be black. You aren’t even good at hating people..lol. Are you good at ANYTHING except incest?
It is really hard to pretend to be an animal. Sorry.
We are good at plenty…just look all around you. Western Civilization, planes, cars, phones, computers, medical advancements, infrastructure….NONE came from Blacks. You should be thanking Whites, since you mooch off our success.
Lol, not intelligent enough for a good insult huh? Comedy.
Look in the mirror ni99er boy, there is true comedy. What you see is actually considered human…ha!
Look at all this anti-whitism. In the 60’s, anti-whites forced ALL and ONLY white countries to bring in millions of non-whites. Then anti-whites forced ALL and ONLY white people to “integrate” or face penalties for being “naziswhowantokill6millionjews.” Now anti-whites are praising and counting down the days till ALL and ONLY white children are minorities and extinct EVERYWHERE. That makes it genocide. “Anti-racist” is a codeword for anti-white. /watch?v=lKDeyuM0-Og
The sky is falling the sky is falling!
Nope…the country is just browning. In other words, 3rd world here we come!
Then move to a Scandinavian county. Oh..they are successful Socialist countries. Maybe there some European countries you can move to. But, many of them are Atheist. Good luck in your search.
Why should I? Its like having to move out a house you built because cockroaches are invading.
Then quit bytching. You CAN’T STOP the fact that white people will be the minority soon. So what do you want?
Meanwhile, Israel is an apartheid state with anti-mesceganation (race mixin’) laws that has even been caught sterilizing black immigrants.
Wow! I have read most of the comments, and only one response had anything to do with the article. While I have no solutions to the problems in the black communities, I know what we have done to deal with them. We left. We moved to an area where there are 3% of any other race than white. It wasn’t because of race that we moved, but it sure is a nice perk. We lived in SC for many years. It was where I learned about racism. Black people hate white people. Period. Now, not all do but the majority do. If you can get a black alone you might have a chance at making friends or some emotional contact with them, but in a group? They hate whites. I didn’t grow up in a racist home, I was taught to love others different from yourself, to be tolerant of those different than yourself. My contact with the black people where I lived left me with mixed feelings. Disgust, that is the top layer. Anger, that’s in there because I feel like they are taking advantage of others and misuse opportunities they have to improve. They have equality in schools, jobs, life and yet they choose to bemoan and blame others for their own choices. I feel like I should not be angry or disgusted so I feel guilty that I feel angry and mostly disgusted. It’s like they don’t even try! They have been so enslaved and brainwashed they can’t even see they are cutting off their own noses to spite their faces! They have enslaved themselves in the Governments grasp, from physical chains to financial chains. Welfare is an enslavement trap and all too many people have fallen into it’s grasp. White and Black. It just seems the blacks are the most happy about it. They have allowed morals to be completely dissolved from their families, they teach no empathy to their children, no manners, no respect for themselves or others, no desire to improve to embrace all this life has to offer. It’s sad, it’s disgusting and no social programs will fix it, you can’t fix other people. You can only fix yourself.
Lol, your prejudice and political affiliation color your observation. But understand this, there are approximately 30% of white people in America who are FULLY RACIST..that is..they believe white people are superior and minorities like blacks and Hispanics are second class citizens. That means there are more White racists than the ENTIRE BLACK population in this country. Now add to that the uninformed and overly emotional White people who are not necessarily racist, accept all manner of lies by conservatives, deny that racism exists, defends the systematic racism that exists, and promotes propaganda like this article to degrade, demonize, and dislike black people and now you have 3 times as many white people who dislike black people because of their color than the total population of Blacks in America. So, please let’s not pretend it is even POSSIBLE for blacks to be more racist than whites even though many black people are angry and racist.
As for the farce about welfare that you believe just because the right wingers say it…let me ask you 2 questions.
1) What was the percentage of poor BLACK AND WHITE people in poverty before welfare?
2) What percentage of poor BLACK AND WHITE people are in poverty today?
If the numbers did not increase after welfare was implemented, then it is logical to conclude that welfare is not making people poor or keeping them in poverty right?
“But understand this, there are approximately 30% of white people in America who are FULLY RACIST..that is..they believe white people are superior and minorities like blacks and Hispanics are second class citizens.”
Where does this figure come from? Has the Census Bureau asked people if they are racist? Nope. The IRS? Nope. Or even Gallup or some other poll? Nope. I can only conclude someone pulled this percentage out of their posterior because neither I nor anyone I have ever known, has been asked if I/they are a racist by anyone–ever. Please reveal your source so we are enlightened..
Tim Wise is the source. I don’t know how he came to the number because I would guess more than 30% but because is an expert on the subject of racism, I am not, and there are no OTHER estimates for me to go by…I use his. If you have a source that has a different number, I would be glad to see it.
BTW, i don’t know anyone polled on smoking weed, but there are estimates on how many people do it. Educated guesses are accepted in many areas when there is no empirical evidence available.
Do you believe there are fewer than 30% of white Americans who are racist?
What percent of Blacks are racist? Or is that predictably ok?
I would guess about 20% of blacks are actually RACIST. That is to say that they believe they are superior based on their race. I believe about 50% of blacks have some animosity and/or prejudice against white people, however. You have to think about it..we still have parents and/or grandparents who lived through Jim Crow and lynchings who are still living! Some bad memories die hard.
98% of every black I have met is very racist, the evidence was proven on the vote for Obama! None of you voted on his ability in his record or history as a politician or even his actions, you voted for him because he was BLACK and that is racist!
We voted for Obama the first time because BUSH FUGGED THE COUNTRY UP ALMOST BEYOND REPAIR! …lol Daddy Bush hurt the poor and middle class and Reagan DESTROYED the poor and middle class. Why on EARTH would a poor or middle class person have voted for McCain and an Idiot Palin when Republicans had done so much to kill the poor and middle class? That was not a vote for Obama because he was black…it was a vote for a Democrat because Republicans keep killing us economically.
For the record…Bill Clinton had as many black votes in his second term as Obama did his first term. Did we vote for Clinton because he was black too? lol And lastly, there are not enough black voters to put ANY PRESIDENT in office. WHITE LIBERALS and young WHITE swing voters put Obama in office. Did they vote for him based on his skin color also?
I look forward to your response.
Dude, you are really, really making yourself look dumb.
All this time for a response and that is all you can muster? lol
Answer the questions if you are capable.
So even you agree it’s a “guesstimate,” based on his poli-sci degree and his work in racial activism, right? And I have no different numbers to give you because I don’t believe they exist.
And nobody gives a flying fig how many people smoke pot, so let so-called experts throw out numbers all they want to on that — It is unimportant. Pot smoking can be determined through drug testing and hair sampling, but something as serious as being a racist is very, very different and cannot be tested for..
And, yes, I believe there are fewer than 30% of white Americans that are, as you say, FULLY racist. That’s my guesstimate and it ain’t worth any more spit than Tim Wise’s.
So we shouldn’t accept the guesstimates, theories, or assertions of ANY experts who don’t have empirical evidence?
If there are less than 30% , what would your GUESS be?
I answered that in the second sentence of my post.
You don’t actually believe Racists exist?…or numbers?
If you are saying the numbers don’t exist…that is why i asked you to guess. If you are saying racists don’t exist….What about the over 30 white supremacist groups in America; most notably the KKK, Aryan Nation, Neo Nazis, and American knights party..to name a FEW?
Blame, blame, blame….it is all Knee Grows know how to do.
Lol, who did i blame for anything? You all are BLAMING welfare, I simply proved the poverty in the Black community has NOTHING to do with welfare. I am sorry that you don’t like the facts.
Poverty in the ni99er community is because blacks DO NOTHING!!
If you were intelligent enough to post a fact we could probably have a conversation…but that would actually require that you be mature enough to stop throwing tantrums. Too bad.
Dat Racis.
Racist ~No ! Truth & Facts !!Don’t forget the Deceiver in Chief started out as a Community Organizer !The ones playing the race card or race baiters are the blacks themselves !You can’t continually lie to the American people ! I was taught a Lie ~is a Lie is a Lie !! It will never secure the truth !Accountability, responsibility is never, first & foremost !The Deceiver In Chief is mulatto! Born in Kenya! Therefore he is a Foreigner/Muslim sitting in the People’s House with No Leadership & is a Failure~totally !He is so thin skinned that everything is about him & him alone! Obama= All About Me !!!For someone brought up poor! Where did he come up with the money to live such a free life ?Struggles aren’t just in the black communities ! The greatest problems are the freebies & those that think they are entitled to what ever & at everybody else’s expense ! No matter your color or heritage ~You alone are the master of your destiny ! You~make or break yourselves !Morals & values gives one the fortitude of how one should live !
This white person gives you their experience and they are telling the truth. MILLIONS of black people give you their experience and they are lying. See the hypocrisy and bigotry?
RAAAAACIST!!!!
Can you answer the question? Thanks.
MILLIONS of Black people have been whining the same effen thing for DECADES. People are SICK OF IT. F you and F your race….try acting normal, watch in wonder at how far you get.
Lol, you are sick of people telling you that they are getting mistreated, pillaged and demonized?? Lol. But,you are not tried of the bigots and criminals who ignore the constitution…simply because they are white?! You racists are funny sometimes..but mostly you are really sad and destructive for our country.
Having worked in a BellSouth call center, I can agree with this article.
So, my witnessing white supremacy at it’s worse should allow me to judge all white people by their actions?
I do not believe this . I went to school with black children from elementary thru high school. MY CLASS PRESIDENT WAS BLACK! And went on to college and played professional Football. Bengal’s….I don’t understand the new hate…Hell the Civil war has been over…..Way longer than even I am alive…And being loud I have seen that even outside school…They are being taught outside to hate and I believe it is in the music they listen too. Can we help it can we stop it. No all we can do is love them…love them like Jesus taught us too and pray that one day they will understand.
well if you went to a Black school seems to reason you would have a Black student President How does that change what he wrote here Everything he said he was the Truth The majority of Black students are just like He Described here and have no Future whatsoever in America
Have you met the majority of Black Students? lol. The article is bigoted and untrue and people who believe it are either too ignorant to think critically about such drivel or are already racist and won’t be swayed by any amount of facts, evidence, or logic that proves this article to be BS.
Yes I have met them and what he said was true. There is a small percentage of Black students that get a good education but a huge Percent does not and it has nothing to do with white people Cannot blame Whites for this it is the way these kids are raised The Statistics show what he said was true But anytime someone tries to Offer a Logical Explanation as to Why the Black race is in the Third world state it is in they they are Racists!!!! BULLSHIT!!!!! since the Early 60’s the US Gov has Been trying to make life fair for Blacks!!!! By creating Bullshit social services that did nothing to help Blacks Just gave them a free ride and it has not Worked so this is what we end up with Blacks can Blame whites all they want for their Downfalls in America!! It will change Nothing Blacks have no Future in America!!!! They have Advanced about as far as they are going to go So the Black on Black crime rates will keep getting higher!! Unwed Birth rates will keep getting higher and white are going to stop Diversifying their Neighborhoods and the ghettos will get worse and the only ones who can change it re the Blacks themselves and that will not happen
Lies don’t help your case.
And the truth destroys yours.
Since I only care about truth, I doubt that…lol. I don’t care about defending a position, political party, ideology, religion, or emotions. I only care about what is true and what is best for my family, community, and country. So, when people say nonsense like social services we created for black people it makes me laugh. When people say MOST black students are like the ones in this article it makes think they are just stupid. But when people say African Americans are a third world…when there are 15 million more poor white people and 3 times as many crimes committed by white people in terms of sheer number…it makes me know they have an AGENDA based on emotion not caring about truth.
So, you are welcome to offer something TRUTHFUL so we can agree….i would be happy to see it.
Just what one would expect from a pseudo-intellectual, socialist, public school educated black, ‘Dre. Your denial of reality is the cause of the exponentially greater percentage (per capita) of blacks who commit murder and other violent crimes than those same stats per capita among whites. Pretending that the things described by the teacher in his essay are NOT true, is truly the fuel which feeds their growth. Truth? You don’t have a clue what truth is because you don’t have a clue what reality is.
Per capita crime in the black community means NOTHING to you. It is only political capital and a justification for bigotry.
Are you more likely to be the victim of a crime at the hands of a white person or a black person?
And let’s not make this personal. Let’s just stick to the topic.
Absolutely a black person. I have been the victim of several attempts by blacks to attack and rob me. I’m 64 years old, and don’t look as able as I am. My 25 year old son was attacked and robbed by a group of blacks. He had a grocery bag in each hand, and when he walked out of the store, he was surrounded, obstructed, sucker punched, held from behind by two others, punched again, and robbed, of a pack of cigarettes, by 5 blacks. Just two weeks ago, I had a group of 8 or 9 blacks approach me on the sidewalk a couple of blocks from my building. One, a girl, tried to distract me by asking for money while the others tried to surround me. As the first two, one on each side grabbed for me, I introduced them to a skillset called Target Focus Training. Within 5 seconds, two of them were on the sidewalk screaming in pain, and the others were all running away. Don’t try to convince me of bullshit, when I live the reality.
Your experience is all that matters is what you are saying. It doesn’t matter that 5 million crimes a year are committed by white people with WHITE VICTIMS right? Only your fragile emotions count. This explains why people who believe religions and politicians are so delusional…because you all can’t separate emotional personal experience from empirical evidence. I won’t say it is all your fault…but it is mostly.
You want me to accept your experiences as true but you call me and MILLIONS of black people who experience racism every day…liars…because ONLY white people can have personal experiences. See the hypocrisy?
Oh, and I guess you poor, downtrodden blacks are NOT the most Racist people on the fucking planet. Spare me your bullshit.
Oh, and I guess you poor, downtrodden blacks are NOT the most Racist people on the fucking planet. Spare me your bullshit.
Downtrodden blacks take in stray white people, give money to the white homeless that the white people look at like scum. Come to a predominately black city and see which communities the WHITE beggars come to. They come to the BLACK sides of town because white people treat even poor white people like scum…but black people actually give to the white people.
You want black people to be racist so you can justify your racism. But, trust me, the bigotry in your heart has little to do with us or our actions. It has everything to do with the indoctrination you have been brainwashed with.
Let me ask you this…if all blacks were like Colin Powell would you all of a sudden start loving us?
As I said in a previous post Andre, spare me your bullshit, or ignorance, or delusion, or whatever it is that keeps oozing like pus from your rotting mind. You don’t know me, or anything about me. I will tell you this much, my ONLY prejudices are AGAINST Racism, Corruption, Ignorance, Stupidity, and Lies. I am the ONLY Dad, that a very talented, compassionate, well-adjusted, 26 year old artist and musician has ever known. His BLACK father abandoned him and his mother when he was 3 weeks old. I met him and became his Dad when he was 3 years old, and he tells me at least once per week that of all the things he is grateful for besides me leading him to Christ, is the fact that I chose to raise Him, and gave him an example that he hopes to emulate. His Biological Grandfather and Grandmother, who are both highly educated retired Software Engineers from Oakland CA, tell me that THEY are grateful that their grandson was raised by yours truly. In addition, from the time I was old enough to hunt game with my Dad, He and my brothers and I fed more than 15 black families who lived around us in our rural farm community. I don’t tell you this out of any self-aggrandisement, but just to give you a glimpse of how viciously prejudiced YOU are toward anyone who tells the truth about far too many blacks. Now, do yourself a favor, and don’t make yourself look like any more of an idiot than you already have.
There is NOTHING Christian about ANY of the posts that that you have made to me. Because you raised a half black child and helped black families DOES NOT mean you believe black people are EQUAL! Racism is NOT simply hate or disgust of another race. It is the BELIEF that you are superior based on your skin color.
The fact that you deny and ignore the fbi stats in favor of demonizing black people with skewed facts and spin proves you believe white people are better than black people as a whole. That sir, IS RACISM. And what’s worse is..it is the worst kind of racism because you believe because you are not the KKK type of racist that your bigotry based on emotion is inconsequential. But your type of racism is the kind that closet bigots use to not hire qualified blacks with college degrees for jobs. It is the kind of racism that says it is ok to stop 800,000 black and brown people in NY simply because of their race even though less that 2% them ever even receive a citation. Your type of racism advances lies like Blacks are lazy, stupid, and the reason for the downfall of this country. And last but certainly not least, your kind of racism falsely blames the race problem in America on blacks as if there hadn’t been 250 years of racism from whites towards blacks and that this legacy suddenly disappeared in the last few years when there are still over 30 white supremacist groups still operating in America, and many white people (not all) feel the way you do about “most” black people.
You may not HATE ALL BLACK PEOPLE, but you certainly advance half-truths, lies, propaganda, and disparaging notions about us that perpetuates the systemic racism that has been in place for 250 years and is only SLOWLY starting to change.
My truths about black people are FAR more true that yours because I am not trying to protect a political agenda or racial superiority. Yes we have crime problems in OUR communities…but that doesn’t affect YOU or most white people. Yes, we have poverty problems in our communities..but that doesn’t affect YOU or most white people. Yes, we need a better understanding about our roots and culture but that doesn’t affect YOU or most white people. Every reason that bigots use to try to justify their disdain for black people are EXCUSES that don’t affect the vast majority of white people. It is just inhumane , unchristian, immature nonsense used to make them feel better about the emotional and indoctrinated belief system.
If you consider yourself a Christian, and you don’t want to help in the black community (which is your right), then we should be discussing the very real problems in the WHITE community rather than the animus that you have for the black community.
Blah Blah Blah….you Really are pathetic… Just like all Socialists….You will make anything and everything a race issue, just because people don’t like you. Andre…people don’t like you because you’re a moronic, whining asshole, just like YOUR president.
Blah Blah Blah….you Really are pathetic… Just like all Socialists….You will make anything and everything a race issue, just because people don’t like you. Andre…people don’t like you because you’re a moronic, whining asshole, just like YOUR president.
You want me to be socialist..i’m not. You want me to be a moron..i’m not. You want me to be a whiner…i’m not. You want all of these things so you can TRY TO JUSTIFY your ridiculous , unfounded, and unchristian bigotry…IT DOESN’T.
I couldn’t care less that bigots don’t like me, blacks, or other minorities. You all are not bright enough to see how it hurts you and America…that is my only concern.
You don’t understand that how you feel about us was a plan used to keep poor and middle class people fragmented so the Ultra rich could steal all American wealth for themselves while we fight over NONSENSE. That is exactly what has happened. While you dislike black people for things you really don’t care about…like black on black crime…the ultra rich are getting filthy rich while the poor and middle classes are getting poorer and poorer. You don’t seem to have a problem with that. That’s your right. But, please understand that Jesus does not approve of how you and other feel or what you do all in the name of RACE. So, don’t PRETEND you are bringing people to Christ who was strictly about LOVE, when you exhibit no love simply because of a cult-like ideology that you don’t really understand yourself.
And I am not an Obama fan. He is almost as bad a President as Bush. Not quite..but almost. He kisses the asses of the Ultra rich and Big Business just like every other politician does. He is corrupt and elitist just like all democrats and republicans.
U obviously are afraid of truthful, uncorrected history!!!!!
I am afraid of nothing. From what I can tell it is the conservatives who want deny that they were the racist, obstructionist, and downright evil group who is holding America back from peace and prosperity.
Before you start with the revising, I said CONSERVATIVES …not republican.
If you’re not afraid to check history, not P C history, REPUBLICAN’S now days are Dumbocrats in sheep clothing. The true conservatives were, in the past the ones that created and passed the civil rights amendment without 1 vote from the DUMBOCRATS, afraid of the truth. DUMBOCRATS, supporters and major leadership in the KKK, until they figured out how to stay in power forever, tell them lies and feed them candy.
I don’t care about the revisionist history. The racists and obstructionists in 2013 are conservative and republican…PERIOD. I mean just look at the posts on here and how many times I have been called N*****, coon, monkey, third world, and animal…BY CONSERVATIVES who can’t control their emotions. The racism comes from YOUR SIDE…deal with it honestly. You will either denounce such reprehensible behavior OR you will defend it just because they agree with your political viewpoints. Strange thing is…I rarely EVER see conservatives denounce the racists in the party.
Conservatives are not Racists!! How is it Racist to Simply Expect a Race to earn their way in America? To Expect a race to rise up on their own and overcome their Failures. It is not Whites fault that Blacks started listening to Idiots Like Sharpton and Jesse Jackson Whites are not he Racists here it is the Blacks that Always pull the race card when they think Whitey has not helped them enough or has not done enough to help the Black man in America Whites owe Blacks Nothing In America!!!!!! the Sooner the Black race Figures that out the faster they can stop living like Third world aborigines in a Civilized Country.
There are over 30 white supremacist groups in the U.S. They are all conservative. Nobody is closed minded enough to believe that ALL Conservatives are racist. The closed mind is the conservatives who are not racist DENYING AND DEFENDING all of the conservatives who are racist just because you all agree on political ideologies.
The rest of your comments are STRATEGIC political nonsense thought up in board rooms in order to manipulate a voting block into voting against their own best financial interest in favor of trying to spite blacks, Hispanics, gays, women, Muslims, or anyone that disagrees with the republican party. Words like “race card” were thought up so you indoctrinated parrots would have something to say to defend ridiculous LIES AND PROPAGANDA. And just like good cult members…you keep believing and voting against your own best interest and attack anyone who tries to remove you from the cult.
Case in point:
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Like a I said Before the Black Race is Doomed in America if they do not stop With the Entitlement Attitude. It will only get worse and any Attempt to blame whites is nothing but Excuses which the Black race is very good at And Diversification Has Been a complete Failure. You Cannot take someone from a Ghetto Environment Transplant them into a Thriving White area and Expect the Success and Ambition to Magically rub off on the Ghetto Blacks all it does i make the whites Flee the area and more Blacks move in thinking they are showing Whitey how it gonna be and next thing you know you have once thriving Neighborhood turned into a Ghetto and then the Cycle starts all over again The race Issues in America have Nothing to do with Fairness and Equal Opportunity. Life is not fair and if the Blacks Cannot wake up and start fending for themselves and our Gov Stop Giving them a free ride no one need Food stamps if they would get off their ass and work get two jobs if you have too but…..not likely
1965 the poverty rate for America as a whole was 14%. The poverty rate for blacks was 36%.
2012 the poverty rate for America as a whole was 14%
The poverty rate for blacks was 27%
Blacks are the ONLY group in America making progress economically in the face of the destruction of the poor and middle class that conservatives continue to push.
Give us another 40 years and we will be down to 14% poverty just like rest of America …even in the face of the type of bigotry that you display and believe to be justified.
So keep being manipulated by conservatives who use your emotions against you to lie, cheat, and steal the wealth of this country while you are worried about petty BS like who is on welfare…smh.
That’s because blacks like poverty, the even rap about it.
Not Per Capita Blacks have a Higher rate of Crime per Capita than any other race in America anytime you Have a Welfare System there are going to a number of all races Jumping the Bandwagon for a free ride….The majority if Young Blacks these days cannot even speak Proper English The Black race is a huge Failure in America Nothing you can say or Post here can Dispute the facts and Statistics…..Blacks will never equal whites in America Just the way it is
How do we know if blacks will equal whites when Whites had a 200 YEAR HEAD START in equal protection under the law and blacks are only 40 years removed from Jim Crow. In addition, bigots like you who hire for jobs, make justice, loan, housing, and education decisions do whatever they can to hurt black people because we had the audacity to want to free and now have the unmitigated gull to want to be treated as equals in a society run by a Constitution that says “all men are created equal and endowed with certain inalienable rights”. In fact, conservatives fought against their own constitution to try to PREVENT blacks from receiving these “inalienable rights”.
So you are entitled to your ridiculous opinion based on nothing but a legacy of propaganda offered by your cult, but let me give you a few facts that you will surely ignore because you WANT to dislike black people because it makes you feel better about yourself.
90& of all crimes committed against white people are by white people. Yet you have no problem with white people. Every single decision in this country that effects economic policy, the destruction of the middle class,and the condition of our country is made by WHITE PEOPLE. The hijacking of our government by the Ultra rich has been done by WHITE PEOPLE. If you got rid of every minority you would still have 6 million crimes per year by..you guessed it…WHITE PEOPLE. So you can keep blaming black people for all of the problems in America if you want to remain delusional , but don’t pretend like you will get sane black people to agree with such nonsense because conservatives, Oligarchs and Plutocrats are 95% white and THEY are the ones ruining our country.
As I said before, blacks are only 12% of the population, yet account for half of all the crime.
As you “said” before doesn’t mean crap. Blacks account for only 27% of the crime in this nation. Getting your facts straight won’t change your mind though…because bigotry, hatred, and white supremacy are based on ignorance, low self-esteem and immaturity, NOT FACTS.
They account for that much crime from a minority of 12%. That’s an awful lot of crime committed by the black minority, no mater how you try to justify it.
NIGGARS LIE!!!!!!!
NIGGARS homeland AFRICA was a garden until it took NIGGARS a few hundred years to turn it into a sand and desert wasteland. Check history if you are not afraid too!
Lmaooooooooooo!! Now Africans and create deserts?!!! Man that is comedy. At least you admit we are Gods.
DEVILS !!!!
Well I can say this, where I live a new high school was built and my daughter attended. The school had a black principal and vice principal, and the head of and half the guidance was black. This is what has happened. They allowed teacher to come from Orlando and bring their black students and this is what happened. I had to take my daughter out of school because they turned it into a ghetto, at least three times a year. the school gets locked down because of gang related gun threats, once a week dogs are brought through the school and you guessed it at least three or four black guys are arrested because they are dealing and they are stupid enough to have their back packs full! Any kids not black are getting beaten by their Knock out game, even a white teacher was KNocked out but it never made the news!!!! Why because the news wont show black on white hate crimes. No the true racists in this country are not the white people it is the blacks and it is getting even worse. You cant even stand in front of a black at the grocery store with out one getting mad at you because you wont let them cut you in line saying your racist for not letting them!!! Yes I agree THE MAJORITY OF THEM
So you don’t believe the over 30 white supremacist groups in this country are “true racists”?
U FUC(ing NIGGAR
That’s all your small brain can muster huh? You are not even intelligent enough to offer a decent insult. I feel sorry for you.
More college than you can concieve , just speaking slowly and down so you can u n d e r s t a n d !!!!!
The one with the small brain in denial is you. Blacks only think whites are racist and use it as an excuse to behave very badly. You know it and I know it the only ones who refuse to see it are Liberal Democraps and people with white guilt. I dont have any white guilt and never will, First off it was Blacks who sold blacks into slavery and records show is was the Muslims and the Jews who traded them the most and in fact there are this very day over 26 million blacks as slaves in Muslim countries. All I see every day in the news is how blacks target elderly people and women to beat the shit out of from just pure racial hate. Or if a black person acts like a thug and gets shot dead it turns into a racist circus
Let me help you out a little bit. First, the dude just called me a N****** but black only THINK white people are racist based on nothing…smh. Ok.
No black has EVER SAID…”i committed a crime against another black person because whites are racist”. That is absolutely BS. The part you don’t understand is 92% of all crime committed by black people are AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE…nobody blames that on racism. The 8% of crime in which black people assail whites, hispanics, asiains, or other groups MAY be blamed on racism…but we KNOW it is just ignorance. 90% of all crimes committed against white people are BY WHITE PEOPLE. The 10% of the crimes by white people against other races have racism used as excuses also. You are only focused on black on white crime because you have been manipulated by propaganda. We KNOW you don’t care at ALL about black people hurting black people…so the only thing you should REALLY be worried about is WHITE ON WHITE crime. But, even though there are 5.5 MILLION of those each year and less than 50K black on white crimes each year, the white on white crimes don’t get you very emotional do they?
White guilt, Race Card, Entitlement programs, Welfare queens, Race Baiting and a host of other words like this were drummed up by right wing political strategists in board rooms so they could “arm” their followers with “buzz words” to throw around to help defend the party’s positions even if the words are nonsense.
Nobody wants white people to feel guilty. We want you all to be HUMAN. That doesn’t mean we want handouts..we want level playing fields. We want to be judge by our INDIVIDUAL actions not your prejudices of an entire race based on the actions of a few. We want you all to stop being hypocrites by pretending there are no white racists , that all black people second class citizens and racist and that white people do nothing wrong ever so the entire focus of you all’s lives is to judge blacks, hispanics, gays, Muslims, and immigrants. Asking you all to show some humanity is NOT A LOT TO ASK.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA everything you wrote was so full of shit I’m dying of laughter! I noticed you still wont touch the issue of the Islamic slave threat, and I know why and you touched on it with black on black crime but you lie about black on white crime and its simple. Blacks are not only 100% racist but they hate them selves almost as much as they hate everyone else. They welcome slavery on anyone as long as its someone else. The only thing I every see blacks united on is violence towards others and that only holds true until there is no one else to attack and then they implode onto themselves, Africa and ghettos are perfect examples of it! I cannot find ONE charity that blacks have gotten together on to help their own kind in any way other than voting a democrat in for more welfare! Yet You can do a search and find literally thousand of charities where white folks are trying to help out! Look even Your heros like Lewis Faracon wont lift a finger to help anyone, and evidence of his own racism to his own kind is the fact that he is a leader in Islam!!!!!!! How can you practice any religion that supports the enslavement of your own kind?!?!?!??!! Wake up you Moron
I really do understand why white racists are racist like yourself. It is because you all have really low IQ’s and are easily manipulated by emotion and propaganda. It is like being in a cult. You really don’t care about what is true, logical, or factual, you only care how you FEEL. The anger and animosity you feel consume you so completely that you will use any lie, half truth, propaganda, or slander to hold on to your vitriol and hypocritical justification for blaming black people for all of your problems. Well that is EXACTLY how cult leaders recruit their members. You are a member of a cult that is serving to destroy you but you are so indoctrinated, brainwashed and blinded that you can’t see it. There is NOTHING I can say to remove you from the cult because you will protect it at all costs right up until the point well Jim Jones tells you to drink the Kool-aid to kill yourself.
But, I can clear up a few things. 1) 90% of crimes committed against white people are committed BY WHITE PEOPLE. That is over 5 MILLION a year. 2) I don’t care about black on white crime because it is such a small amount of total crime that it is not worth concerning myself with. 3) The Nation of Islam IS DIFFERENT FROM REAL ISLAM. 4) I don’t care about Islam or the NOI. Farrakhan is a con man just like most Christian ministers…there is no difference to me.
5) The most important…If a people hate themselves it is IMPOSSIBLE for them to be RACIST. I know you are not bright enough to understand that…but it is true. Racism is one race believing they are SUPERIOR TO OTHER RACES. If black people hate themselves THEY CANT BELIEVE they are superior to other races…smh. It is possible for black people who hate themselves to be HATEFUL AND BIGOTED…but that is different from being racist. Again, i know you won’t understand this…but it is true. To say 100% of black people are hateful and bigoted just proves how bigoted you are and are just looking for justification for your hate and belonging to the cult of the right wing.
Low IQ lol (137) I am well educated and have traveled to many places, I see the reality of things as they truly are. Look I know exactly the level of thinking and mentality your race holds. I blame blacks for their own crimes they commit and by their actions which are evidence of their thinking. You will always be in denial, and it is now quite obvious you are of the Islamic faith, as you will not touch that subject but rather briefly touch and then run from it. What is it like being a member of an organized faith that enslaves your own kind? How do you sleep at night knowing your leaders of the faith around the world not only accepts your people’s enslavement but has them as slaves as well? You see by taking that faith you automatically are part of the problem. By the way I think you should go to the FBI crime and statistics and look for the real facts because your keyboard wont work if you keep putting bullshit all over it.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf
There is the fbi crime stats smart guy. Notice how in every single category whites are almost twice as bad with the exception of murder and robbery. Murder we had 101 more (wow huge epidemic!)
You are the one in the cult of bigotry and conservative evils. I have no religion. Faith is for the weak and uninformed who need “leaders” to think for them. EVERY SINGLE THING YOU SAID has been strategically devised in a board room by conservatives (some racist some not) to try to gain power because they KNOW you all will accept every evil lie, half truth or slanderous piece of propaganda without ever questioning it. They tell you what to think and feel and like good little cult members you think and feel it…even to your own financial detriment.
Blacks only account for 12% of the entire population though, meaning they are vastly over represented in the amount of crime committed.
I agree, but that is because we are also over-represented in the amount of POVERTY because of slavery then Jim Crow, and now covert racists like yourself who will ONLY hire a black person under penalty of law.
As soon as the bigots like yourself die or change their minds and hearts (death will come first in most cases), the poverty in the black community will drop which will mean that crime in the black community will drop.
But, you don’t REALLY care about the black community getting better…you just use stats as a dumb @ss justification for your white supremacy.
LOL, typical excuses.
Does not matter about the 30 small groups when you have one huge black panther group that is huge and is actively murdering people! You dont even have sand to stand on and even 1 person over 50% makes a majority and I put 90% in the category described above, yah its my number but its my personal experience talking. I lived in New Orleans and other cities and know how it is. Keep on with your denial its ok I understand how it is for you to feel all alone in your 10%
Lol, the Black Panther Party has less than 20 thousand members. There are over 1 million KKK members. Please don’t tell me you are going to try to compare the numbers of racist white people in this country to racist black people. Your experience is NOT empirical evidence. It is an emotional tantrum. Even if you are not racist, your defending and denying them just because they agree with your political views makes you almost as bad as them.
If i were to guess…and i am POSITIVE i know more black people than you…about the same percentage are racist as whites…about 30 percent. But even if we went with your RIDICULOUS number than 90 percent of us are racist..that would mean about 36 million racist blacks live in America. If there are 30 percent white people who are racist (i think it’s more, but I am taking the estimate from the expert) that would mean there are about 45 MILLION racist white people.
Now, which group is in power and has the ability to discriminate in jobs, loans, justice, housing, and all other economics? That would be WHITE PEOPLE. This is not a debate you can win if we are being logical and factual, so we might as well change the subject.
actually If you look at violent racist crime its all black and you know it, but we could argue over and over. I noticed you overlooked the Islamic threat to your own people
Lol at Islamic threat. Islam is no bigger threat to “my people” or ALL people than Christianity or any other religion.
Tony, the problem is…you shouldn’t be looking at crime as a race issue at all. It is an American issue. The focus on race is from the right. You all say that blacks focus too much on race as they are being treated by second class citizens. Do you also tell people who have been raped to not focus on it or to “get over it”? Race is a construct of rich WHITE conservatives to divide the poor and middle class as a divide and conquer measure so the infighting would prevent us from focusing on them stealing the country and destroying the middle class…PERIOD.
FU()IN NIGGARS
STUPID MO FO
niggar lover
so sad to see the way we treat each other, the way we as human beings treat each other. Maybe if we were all physically blind, we would gain some spiritual insight as to why we are so horrible to each other. I went to a community College in Flint Michigan. I had many friends that were Black, hispanic etc., it never seemed to be an issue. I now live in Fresno California, I have been robbed and Raped by Blacks and hispanics and they have been HORRIBLE to me, simply because I am white. I do not understand it??? I tried to be really nice to everyone like I was in Michigan, and they attacked me for no reason. I would never lift a finger to help out anyone ever again black, hispanic, or even white.
This is what is happening to The USA. We are all being goaded into hating each other and the cultural wars are totally out of control. We are all AMERICANS. Every single 18 year old should do 2 years in the Military. It was drilled into our heads in the (navy) that we are all the same, of the same worth, and abilities, but we had to prove ourselves by working hard and working together. No BS allowed. The race baiters are going to cause a civil war and then shit will hit the fan. There has to be an answer, we must find a way to respect each other again. WElfare is not a lifestyle, neither is extreme wealth and loopholes in tax laws… we must all work together and grow the hell up!!!
Diversity tears a country apart from within. When a country is diverse the people of all races are more likely to do things to benefit themselves instead of their country. Example, muslims are raping Europe even though they have been offered a chance at a better life, they are in it for “what they can get”therefore it causes problems, some people like the muslims and some think the problems that comes with them is not worth it so now there is division.
First diversity hits home, your children show the first signs of damage from diversity. The schools are loaded with third worlders that don’t care for the native children or their family values as this rubs off on your children the home life begins to crumble. The muslims will put what they want first before they put the European country first now the people of that country lose their pride and respect for their leaders and are not as patriotic as they once were “why serve my country when they give it to others that don’t deserve it” at the same time the muslims have no love for the country because it’s not their mother land or their people, the country has now entered a downward slide, and the muslims could care less because after all they don’t care for the customs, cultures or the people.
You will find this in any country,state or city that has more than one race, all races for the most part will seek out others like themselves(their own race and or religion)to associate with. Multiculturalism is a failure just look at all of the problems where this failed program has been pushed, England, France,Sweden and the list goes on. Diversity makes a weak fragmented society and a homogeneous society is and always will be stronger and safer for the people.
Complete nonsense…lol
Respect each other again? Please tell me in which decade did the majority of white people start respecting minorities. We are only 40 years from Jim Crow. There are still more than 30 white supremacist groups in the U.S. In retaliation , now there are the New Black Panthers, the NOI and other black racist groups. Please tell me when this respect for each others races came about. Thanks
Why should Whites Respect other Minorities???? Respect is Something you earn not just give someone and what respect are you talking about all the black panthers talk about is race wars!!! Blacks would be wiped out in no time in a race war in America
Phillip, you don’t have to EARN RESPECT. You get it because you are white. White people killed, destroyed, and stole land from Natives..no problem. White created a system of slavery in America that was worse than any place in the world…no problem. White people went to war with their own country in an attempt to keep slaves…no problem. White people created laws to continue to treat minorities like second class citizens and keep them poor and unequal…no problem. White people created groups whose sole existence was to hate, intimidate, scare, and kill blacks who just wanted to be treated like humans…no problem. And NOW …the reason White people hate black people and other minorities is all of a sudden THE FAULT OF THE BLACKS AND MINORITIES….lol. GTFOH.
Which came first ..the chicken or the egg? The hate, bigotry and racism came FIRST…NOW you idiots want to try to justify this legacy of evil with BS like black on black crime…when you couldn’t care less about black people killing black people. Stop the madness..smh.
You are that STUPID!!!!!!
Do you have anything intelligent to say or add…or even a decent reply?
can you only manage one reply for most of my replies to you directly, have I overtaxed ( sorry for the big word ) your mental capacity.
Do you even know what you mean to say? If you can’t form a concise, coherent, (do you know what these words mean?) thought, then keep your drivel to yourself.
Are you that STUPID???????
Do you have an intelligent comment or question?
And can you answer the question? In what decade did White people stop hating black people?
I was raised on a small farm in the southeast, Black’s and Whites, worked, lived, were friends and neighbors, by choice. This was in the ’50’s and ’60’s, after affirmative action, Black power, Gov. intrusion into our lives things changed, THANK YOUR DUMBOCRATS for this not conservative’s.
Jim Crow was still being upheld in the U.S. The KKK and other white supremacist groups are at all time highs.
In what decade did a large portion (not all) white people STOP HATING BLACK PEOPLE?
I agree 1000% but NIGGARS don’t want to work for it, NIGGARS are trashy whites and niggars all the same. They someone else to pay the bill!!!!
Fairly sure America’s normal IQ scores had to be dropped down a few points because a large portion of black Americans were considered retarded.
Bulletin — Most ARE retarded!
Not retarded Just Epic Underachievers who blame whites for their downfalls
it is a sad story! too bad that the majority of people are so clueless, so blind to the reality portrayed here
The only reality is the Racist indoctrination like FLFF and the author of this article subscribe to.
until you are able to accept the truth you cannot begin to correct the problems. People like you are the enablers of the sloth like laziness prevalent in your world
until you are able to accept the truth you cannot begin to correct the problems. People like you are the enablers of the sloth like laziness prevalent in your world
More right wing indoctrination based on rhetoric and propaganda used for political gain. I wish you all could stop being so emotional so you could at least ATTEMPT to be objective…smh
“If you love your child, show her you care — not by giving her fancy vacations or a car, but making her innocent years safe and happy. Give her the gift of a not-heavily black school.”
That. Was. BEAUTIFUL!
You all (KKK members and the like) are the downfall of America…always have been…not Black people.
beyond deserving of a reply
You’re just upset because that’s a few less white girls you can prey on.
You are not bright enough to offer even a decent insult. If you are proud of being a white supremacist , great! Just say so and stop wasting my time.
It wasn’t an insult, simply a statement of truth.
the obama crowd…
That was great! Thank you.
As an individual who once attended a heavily black Junior High School in New York in the 1980s, where they had a yearly “kill whitey day”, everything this guy said is the truth. the town that I grew up in, NAACP and liberals decided that it was raciss! and they got a red diaper doper baby liberal white judge to rule that it was and they ended up busing white kids into the hood. So i had to get up early to catch a bus instead of just going to a school that was closer to me, so that some black robe could feel good about himself. When that black robe kicks over, I will dance a jig. Fortunately, I did not get messed with by blacks. I had one black tell me that I had italian white mafia crazy eyes LOL–not kidding– and that’s why they didn’t mess with me. I didn’t understand it, but it worked so I just went with it. its still going on and any white person that I know send their kids to catholic or private school.
Same ole, same ole wit a diffren color.
Others will say, SSDD, the sarcasm loses the message and the disconnect continues. Public schools are largely to blame and rightfully so.
The solution then is to use the early years to drive home the famous ‘Three Rs’ and cut them free after the 8th grade; sooner perhaps. Those with a genuine interest in doing something that may become valuable will stick around and enjoy smaller classrooms full of people with an interest.
The rest will bumble through life and become amazed when one of their offspring takes an interest and/or does something grand.
Heavy. But true as well. Sad thing about America, they are and will always be, by their own choice…African-Americans….never just Americans, always hyphenated, always alien to their own country. Nothing whites can do will ever change that, they are who they believe themselves to be, and they believe themselves to be hyphenated Americans, more African than American, always and forever.
My God! That was exactly my experience teaching Special Ed in East NY Brooklyn for 28 years! I loved my job, but the white liberals have definitely destroyed civility in Black America. We are dealing with a sub species now, one bred on welfare and promiscuous females who have no clue about what fatherhood means!
They are truly sub human..
This is amazing and should win a Pulitzer prize! God Bless you and thank you.. sometimes we forget others see things as we ourselves do these days…
I believe most black students don’t care about learning or schools, because they go
home and are faced with the same boredom, indifference, bleakness every day – day after day, and come to realize there is no escape from this grind so why try. It just doesn’t make sense to them….the only thing that has meaning is to get that green – dope or money – it is the only answer to anything. School is a total waste of time. Getting ahead in this (white) world means belonging to a gang, having protection, doing whatever it takes to live another day. The women have no problem with being fat or being pregnant…they firmly believe their men like fat and
being pregnant might get them more welfare so they pop more black kids out who in turn, will continue the hopeless cycle all over again. There will always be a very
strong difference and dislike between blacks and whites.
Tearing the scab off of what some would call unintended consequences. The behavior described in this article is found in every country on Earth.
Having been a product of this kind of environment, I was fortunate that God blessed me with the ability to recognize good advice & I made the effort to take that good advice. Others in my family and circle of influence during that time made other choices.
The old cliche of “A bucket of crabs” is a mentality alive & well in the lower socioeconomic neighborhoods. Welfare & long term unemployment programs are not the answer. Choosing personal responsible & refusing to be a victim is what works!
LIVE IN WEST PHILA. GREW UP IN AND AROUND PHILLY.I WAS BROUGHT UP TO LOV ALL,AND YES IN WHITE.I TOUGHT MY KID TO LOOK AT ALL FOLK FROM THE INSIDE.I LIVE AND EXPERIANCE THIS WHATS WRITIN IN THIS ARTICLE EVERY DAY WITH BLACK FOLK.THIS ARTICLE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PRES. OR POLITICS.ITS ABOUT THE NATURE OF DIFRENT RACES. IN MY EXPERIANCE LIVING WITH BLACK FOLK THEY ARE JUST PLAIN VERY HOSTILE FOLK,I DONT HATE THEM BUT THATS JUST THE WAY THEY ARE AND IF I HAD THE MONEY I WOULD MOVE TO A ALL WHITE OR NONE BLACK NABORHOOD ITS JUST PLAIN SAFER AND COLMER AND NICE. DOES THAT MAKE ME RACIST? ITS JUST MY LIFE EXSPERIANCE AND I CANT SPELL VERY WELL ,DISLEXIA AND ADHA. ANYWAY THE MORE BLACK FOLK MOVE INTO NABORHOODS AND GROW THE WORSE THE USA GETS ,CRIME GOs UP OLD HERITAGE TRAIDITIONS GET WATERED DOWN AND OLD NABORHOODS GET TRASHED.IM SORRY TO SAY THIS BUT ITS WHAT I SEE WITH MY OWN TWO EYES HERE IN PHILLY. THIS CITY HAS JUST PLAIN TURN INTO A SHXT WHOLE. YOURS TRULY DOMINICK. PS.-WHATS THE ANSER?
You are a perfect example of why people should not make decisions based on emotions and just their own personal experience. Does your FALSE belief that all black neighborhoods are like the ones you experience make you racist. Absolutely. That is the definition of racism…the belief that one is superior based on their race.
Does that make you a bad person…not necessarily. But, it does make you emotionally and mentally immature. That doesn’t make you a bad person either…just misinformed.
If you want the TRUTH. Google affluent black communities in the U.S. You will find that they are not hostile, ignorant, crime ridden, or bad communities. If you are objective and willing to not be controlled by your emotions…you will find that all the things you are afraid of or avoiding are do to POVERTY not RACE.
Let me give you one fact that I am sure you don’t know. Of the 6 million crimes committed against white people last year…90% of them were committed BY WHITE PEOPLE. So, yes, i agree poor black people are more aggressive than poor white people, but on a daily basis you are 9 times more likely to be hurt by a white person than a black person. Those are the facts.
1299 comments about Obama and only 1 that related to the actual content of the story.
Sam I never once mentioned ovomit. Well, til you brought him up.
I can’t find fault with this essay. The liberals forced desegregation on all of us for social justice back in the 70’s and all it did is bring us all down to the lowest common denominator and seeing that failure – they do what liberals do – double down on failure and are now forcing us to the next lowest common denominator – assimilating the third world from Mexico to Argentina into our public school / welfare systems.
Wow!
First I wonder if this was written by Kevin Jackson from the Blacksphere.
Next I think of enslavement to resentment and entitlement that is racistly propagated by the likes of Sharpton, Jackson and winfrey. “Our people were used as slaves centuries ago and we are still resentful, you still OWE us.”
Ya know, you don’t hear the Jewish people still resenting and lamenting and playing victims of the Holocaust. They are survivors who are happy and proud they survived. And went ON. We abolished slavery here. We passed as a country – Thanks to Republicans! Equal rights. Oprah how about we use your logic, “Kill all old white racists”. How about the old resentful, you enslaved me you owe me blacks go to a quiet place too. The only white massas you have are the dumbing down entitlement dolers from the gov’t now a days. If you want free of oppression, how about not choosing to be DEPENDANT on your “Oppressor”. Dr. Ben Carson’s mom didn’t buy this crap and refused to let her son think that way. She said straighten up and read and learn. He wasn’t allowed to behave that way in school.
There are tons of middle class blacks who don’t behave the way inner city black kids do. This isn’t even a black thing really. It’s an inner city thing. Whites get stuck in trailer park trash mentality too. This is more of a class issue. You either figure out a way to succeed in this world, Or you just plain Don’t get to succeed. Why the hell should those who won’t bother to try, get the perks that folks who do – DO? This article is all about not being willing to do what it takes to succeed.
Whine all you want about cultural differences and non conformity whatever. Ya gotta know how to play the game to succeed. If all the game they can come up with is drug pedaling, prostitution, stealing, gang banging, making more child welfare recipients – they are NOT Succeeding! It basically sounds like perpetual kindergarten. You all get a gold star to make it all copasetic at nap time and no one whines and cries.
Lets draw a sewer maze. Fill it with rats who can’t find their way out of a paper bag with holes in it. They can’t even gnaw their way out of it. That’s how conditioned they are to not thinking outside the box for themselves. Then leave them to breed. Then drop food and drugs and free health care. What are they going to do? Breed. And breed and breed and breed. And compete – fighting and killing and rogue gangs etc. Trying to somehow be top dog of the ignorance gene pool. (There is the free market competition trying to work, isn’t it? Survival of the fittest.) And then keep feeding them and dropping hand outs as the benefactors for those who can’t help themselves, to keep it fair and just, and no one goes without. Just like Detroit and other inner cities keep doing.
For every inner city Detroit black resident, there are three outskirts of Detroit area blacks who are successful middle class. It’s time to stop making excuses and let the survival of the fittest work it’s magic. If those kids can fight to keep their shoes clean, and fight to get the best boy, They can fight to keep a home and job. They know how to compete. Let them step up and survive.
Add to the rat maze just for kicks – a room with free brekas and lunch, and a room of learning – pppfffttt guess where most would go? Put a door in the room with the learning out to the real world- give that group the opportunity for a way out.
Then you add the gun element. I honestly don’t know how that works in there – inner city. Do the stupid’s and the not so stupid’s have them? Is that the great equalizer? Liberals want to do away with all the guns. Dr. Carson is not in favor of them in inner cities and I understand his logic. They aren’t used for their intended purpose there. Education obviously won’t work because it is the wrong wilderness those people live in, to use them. Hunting humans for sport is wrong. (War is different). Killing your competitor will not make you better or stronger though. Maybe that is the lesson. He/She might be better or smarter than me – BANG I’ll dumb down the gene pool again. I’m a wiener now, I killed the smarter one. Attrition. Where’s that get ya???
What would be the fall out if you asked those kids – What would happen to YOU if welfare and all the other perks disappeared?
Cannot find fault with any of this
Bottom line..they are an un-evolved species that should’ve been extinct several thousand years ago, if not for the compassion of the evolved white race. they are society’s anchors and our tolerance has held back our own advancement. it is like when the Cro-magnon encountered the less evolved and ‘lower branch’ of the human evolution tree Neanderthal. even then, the Cro-magnons knew they had to eradicate that species to further their advancement. to keep them around would’ve put the human race in jeopardy…same as now. don’t give me the crap about DNA and genes. blacks obviously have a lesser ability to learn, filter thoughts and actions, socialize and create.
There are way too many intelligent good black people to say that. Lots smarter than you and I are. Not a fair statement.
Though I agree with many things written, this teacher does have many prejudices…ie..Fat People! I grew up in Kansas City, Mo, and lived through the race riots of the 60’s. The Black Panthers would drive down the street with megaphones yelling out, “Have yoselves mo babies and take da white man’s money! We built beautiful new schools in the poorest of black neighborhoods, and they immediately destroyed them. This is a culture that has been here since slaves were freed and the 1st generation of free black children was born. So much of it has to do with mob mentality, and women who have babies with everyone having a different daddy, and daddies that take no responsibility for spreading their seed to create a majority in numbers….mob kids! I now live in a suburb of KC, and have many great black neighbors who have left the big cities to teach their children a better way, and to keep them safe. I respect their love of their children, and their dedication to teaching them responsibility is how to succeed, not blame. But some of the good black’s children bring the city with them, and bring crime we never had before. Somehow we must teach responsibility, and consequence for action. I will continue to welcome people of all colors who demonstrate these abilities. I will respect those who deserve respect. But when I go to the city, I am very alert to my surroundings, I lock my doors, and don’t travel in certain neighborhoods with valid reason. So many cry out about the poor innocent children, but if we don’t create systems where the care of children falls upon the parent, things will never change for the better…loving them is not enough, and feeding them only creates users. We have to stop rewarding women based on the number of children they have.
Having grown up in an extremely racist small town in the South which was intergrated during the Civil Rights era, with all of the accompanying issues and problems, I can categorically state that this screed is wrong on every level. Perhaps where this educator is located is the issue, but not the skin color of his students. For example, even after having grown up in ***ger Town (capitalized on county and school maps), a close friend of my oldest brother won the key scholarship to FSU over him, not because of race, but because he had a little better score on his SATs. Douglas (forgot his last name) and John (my brother) remained friends for years afterwards, attending college together and again competing over highest school honors. One would win one, the other another one, throughout their education. That’s just one example of a black child overcoming seemingly insurmountable odds to go on to success.
However, the culture of TODAY’s black children and adults in SOME AREAS of the nation are as the author describes it well. Malcolm X has won over Martin Luther King, Jr. in those areas. Our job should not be to abandon them to the Xers, but to attempt to remind them of MLK’s dream and how they can help us all to achieve it.
White People are starting to wake up! The media has hidden black crime for 50 years but enough people have been harmed that people are taking note- finally.
The lack of black progress has NOTHING to do with white racism any more. Slavery has been gone for almost as long as it was EVER around in the U.S. Blacks have EVERY advantage the government can buy- but reliance on bigdaddygovernment keeps you in the projects.
IQ has been well vetted but the knee-grow apathy is legendary. As the teacher points out they just have no academic interest in how the world works. They have never noticed where the sun sets. They don’t care about U.S. history or world history. They have no interest in science, or mathematics, or business, or literature, or really anything productive or beautiful. I am reminded of Thomas Jefferson:
[1] The first difference [between whites and blacks] which strikes us is that of color. . . . The difference is fixed in nature, and is as real as if its seat and cause were better known to us. And is this difference of no importance? Is it not the foundation of a greater or less share of beauty in the two races? Are not the fine mixtures of red and white, the expressions of every passion by greater or less suffusions of color in the one, preferable to that eternal monotony, which reigns in the countenances, that immoveable veil of black which covers all the emotions of the other race? Add to these, flowing hair, a more elegant symmetry of form, their own judgment in favor of the whites, declared by their preference of them, as uniformly as is the preference of the orangutan for the black women over those of his own species. The circumstance of superior beauty, is thought worthy attention in the propagation of our horses, dogs, and other domestic animals; why not in that of man? . . .
[2] They seem to require less sleep. A black, after hard labor through the day, will be induced by the slightest amusements to sit up till midnight, or later, though knowing he must be out with the first dawn of the morning. They are at least as brave, and more adventuresome. But this may perhaps proceed from a want of forethought, which prevents their seeing a danger till it be present. When present, they do not go through it with more coolness or steadiness than the whites. They are more ardent after their female: but love seems with them to be more an eager desire, than a tender delicate mixture of sentiment and sensation. Their griefs are transient. Those numberless afflictions, which render it doubtful whether heaven has given life to us in mercy or in wrath, are less felt, and sooner forgotten with them. In general, their existence appears to participate more of sensation than reflection. . . .
[3] Comparing them by their faculties of memory, reason, and imagination, it appears to me, that in memory they are equal to the whites; in reason much inferior, as I think one [black] could scarcely be found capable of tracing and comprehending the investigations of Euclid; and that in imagination they are dull, tasteless, and anomalous. It would be unfair to follow them to Africa for this investigation. We will consider them here, on the same stage with the whites, and where
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the facts are not apocryphal on which a judgment is to be formed. It will be right to make great allowances for the difference of condition, of education, of conversation, of the sphere in which they move. Many millions of them have been brought to, and born in America. Most of them indeed have been confined to tillage, to their own homes, and their own society: yet many have been so situated, that they might have availed themselves of the conversation of their masters; many have been brought up to the handicraft arts, and from that circumstance have always been associated with the whites. Some have been liberally educated, and all have lived in countries where the arts and sciences are cultivated to a considerable degree, and have had before their eyes samples of the best works from abroad. The Indians, with no advantages of this kind, will often carve figures on their pipes not destitute of design and merit. They will crayon out an animal, a plant, or a country, so as to prove the existence of a germ in their minds which only wants cultivation. They astonish you with strokes of the most sublime oratory; such as prove their reason and sentiment strong, their imagination glowing and elevated. But never yet could I find that a black had uttered a thought above the level of plain narration; never see even an elementary trait of painting or sculpture. In music they are more generally gifted than the whites with accurate ears for tune and time . . . . Whether they will be equal to the composition of a more extensive run of melody, or of complicated harmony, is yet to be proved. Misery is often the parent of the most affecting touches in poetry. —Among the blacks is misery enough, God knows, but no poetry. *** [4] To our reproach it must be said, that though for a century and a half we have had under our eyes the races of black and of red men, they have never yet been viewed by us as subjects of natural history. I advance it therefore as a suspicion only, that the blacks, whether originally a distinct race, or made distinct by time and circumstances, are inferior to the whites in the endowments both of body and mind. It is not against experience to suppose, that different species of the same genus, or varieties of the same species, may possess different qualifications.
Before I enlighten you…let me ask you this: What percentage of African Americans live below the poverty line?
All niqqers belong in the jungle
If you mean Africans, we were building sophisticated civilizations while you cave men Europeans were learning to make fire. You all are genetic mutations of Black and Asian People. There is no such thing as Caucasian or white DNA, you are either Asian or African. I know you will deny that INDISPUTABLE FACT because hate is incapable of critical thought or intelligence , but I thought I would just let you know something you didn’t know.
Are you mentally ill?
Africa hasn’t contributed one thing to modern society. And don’t try to claim the Muslim civilization as African. They never were.
That is so ignorant that I can’t dignify it with a response.
Do you want to know the answer to this madness? Are you ready for it? Godlessness. These kids are a product of their upbringing and I don’t mean the school system although the school system is as much a part of it. I will explain. We are all born in sin with a sin nature. Many of these children are influenced by their parents and brought up with a certain outlook on life. These children weren’t born racist. They were introduced to it by someone at an early age, parents, relatives? Having learned it at an early age and grown to accept it or molded by it they then enter a secular school system that has completely removed God from its classroom. Our school system has attempted to put itself above God by removing God from its classrooms and then attempting to fix a problem that ONLY God can fix! Unless the Word of God is preached sin will abound and darkness will continue to exist. The devil roams the earth to and fro seeking whom he may devour. He attacks our weaknesses and less we are saved by the blood of Christ Jesus and our hearts are guarded by the Lamb we will not stand against the evil one. Churches all over the world are filled with blood washed Christians of every race imaginable who are filled with goodness of heart and the spirit of God. It is not a race thing, it is a saved thing! You either serve God or you serve the devil. You’re either saved or you are lost. When you die you either go to Heaven or you go to hell.
Most Conservatives are the most Godless acting people in our country.
Is there ANY place in America one can live where the population of blacks vs white is 0? I would be strongly motivated to want to live in such a place!
There are BUNCH of cities in America where there are ZERO blacks. I am sure some of them would not have you though unless you lie about how racist you are.
I cant read dis shyt, I black
Racial hatred is at its greatest I have seen since the 60s. But now it is the other way around and more dangerous, because the media is not posting blacks’ (or illegals’) dastardly deeds as they did the KKK.
An example is a black with all the attitudes listed in the commentary who shot a year old white baby point blank in the face this March in Brunswick GA. There has been no sustained media exposure of or outrage about the Santiago murder by Elkins (17). The other gang wannabe, 13, testified that Elkins said that school day, “I’m going to rob me a hispanic (which he had done before by shooting a hispanic pastor). Then upon seeing the white mother and baby said, “there’s a white lady.” When she had no money on her, Elkins insisted she did so he shot the mother and then shot the baby. The mother at first did not think Elkins was serious about shooting her baby, but perhaps if she had read this article she would have known that there is no control mechanism in people raised and galvanized like those described.
Merry, why don’t you care about the 3500 or so murders that white people committed against white people? Why are you more concerned and afraid of the 400 or so that black people committed against white people? According to the Dept of Justice, over 68% of all crime in this country is committed by white people. Now, although there is too much in the black communities, the vast majority are committed by black people against black people (over 90%). And, we know you don’t care about that. So, the question again is, why so much concern over the few crimes that blacks commit against whites? Why not be afraid of the 194,000 aggravated assaults and over 14,000 rapes of white people BY WHITE PEOPLE last year alone?
Have another slice of watermelon.
Say something intelligent.
I will when you take off your white hood.
Whitey wasn’t killing nigger babies though, was he.
Answer the question. Why don’t you care about white men raping white women?
I never said I didn’t. I find it a tragedy, but we all know the majority of rapes are committed by the ethnics and the afro americans. Just because it happens in white society too doesn’t justify the fact the main culprits of it our banana eating brethren.
According to the black “historians” which are nothing more than race based hires, the negroes invented civilization, The niggers are obviously smoking crack. “hail the negro!”
No, that is according to white people. How many negro anthropologists are there? Definitely not enough to form a majority!..lol. And the MAJORITY of anthropologists believe Africa is the cradle of civilization. Unfortunately, uncivilized people like yourself ignore facts and just go by how they feel. Sad.
Does it really matter were mankind evolved? What matters is the here an now. Just look at how bad Africa is and how much better it is in the 1st world countries. The poor black cities are worse than the third world countries.
You racis
Well, tell that to the anthropologists who are writing their findings.
Why? Because they are speaking the truth?
I hope you all see that the extreme racists like TCM can’t answer simple questions because their delusion and hate are NOT LOGICAL they are just emotional!
Why does everything always have to be about race? Can’t we see that we’re all AMERICANS and focus our energy on fixing the many problems wrong with this place?!
That would REALLY be nice!
Just look at the lying Tyrant Obama. He uses lies as a political tool, yet blacks support him no matter what.
If you want to see proof that Tyrant Obama is a liar then read Thomas Sowell’s “Phony in Chief” at townhall.com. He tells about how Senator Obama went to New Orleans and game a speech to a largely black audience. Obama told them that they weren’t going to get a waiver of the Stafford act like NY and FL because they were black. This was a lie and Obama knew it was a lie because the waiver had been signed into law two weeks earlier. What made this worse is that Obama had voted against the waiver!
Essay by a teacher in a black high school
You really believe that, don’t you? This story has been floating around for ages, and the teacher was originally white. You should feel like an ass for posting this tripe, but you don’t have the self-awareness to do so.
The facts that he reports about black children and black culture are terrible and worthy of focus. This why Tyrant Obama can lie to blacks over and over, throw them into unemployment and they still support him.
Retardation masquerading as thought.
The essay?
Yes.
I agree. The sad part is that many many people will read this and continue to use it as justification for looking down their noses at black people.
To borrow a technique that I learned from this article. ALL of the people who think this article is true & factual are inbred idiots who are probably too busy eating their own boogers to actually be dangerous.
Whereas the blacks are plenty dangerous.
[…] to believe it was a bigot’s fabrication. I’d still like to believe that, but it was reposted by a black man who claims it is representative of “dirty laundry”: bad stuff [known among […]
You guys have plenty of mass murderers in Chicago,White mass murderers, are people that have been doped up,or should be institutionalized.Liberal lawyers are responsible for that.
A friend of mine, who teaches in Philly, has, in effect, said the same things. What really breaks his heart is the dope-addicted, uncaring parents…those kids have difficulty finding any value in life…BUT SOME OF THEM DO!
I experienced the same when going to school in Berkeley.
Explain the black kid ,shooting the baby in the face ,while the mom watched,because she had no money.What black scum.Babies crying racism is just a ruse,you people hate being black,that’s not the worlds fault.And O.J. was guilty,and blacks ,willingly let him free.HYPOCRITES
LOL, how did blacks let him free? I thought we should ACCEPT the verdicts? SMH.. You help my point dude! RACE MATTERS IN A COURTROOM!!! That is what we have a problem with. You only have a problem with us saying it is a problem. But why?
If you can explain the over 90% of serial killers being white. I will explain the dumb ass who shot that innocent baby.
There are hardly any serial killers and it’s just white serial killers who get the publicity. There are so many black murders that the serial killers get lost among them. They are normal in black society. Well at least in the black ghetto gangster society.
Babies crying racism every second ,to make up for their own stupidity,laziness(Obama),unmotivated,hateful,resentful,and whites try to make it better for y’all.You know ,that essay says it all,Remember the book..”The Bell Curve”, the truth crucified the writer,just for telling the truth.Cornell West was right there crying about it.You guys are killing yourselves,but when someone from another race does it,it make national news,and Z wasn’t even white.HYPOCRITES
TCM, why does it matter to you that we are killing each other? It is clear that you hate black people. That’s fine. But why try to justify it with BS. You don’t hate white people even though there are more poor white people, more uneducated white people, more white people on welfare, more white people who love black people than white supremacists like yourself. You don’t hate white men even though they rape white women at 12 times the rate as black men raping white women. Over 170 THOUSAND white men raped white women but you all don’t complain about that at all. If black men committed the atrocities at Aurora or Sandy Hook, you all would be trying to send us all back to Africa. The double standards and hypocrisy comes from you all, sir…not us. You want a prime example? How about the politically and emotionally charged phrase “Race card”. Conservatives strategists created that phrase to marginalize and discredit anyone who tries to call attention to the very real instances of racism in this country. But it is hypocritical because you don’t use gay card, gender card, religion card, weight card, handicapped card, rape card, mental health card, or reverse race card when people call attention to the injustices that happen to these groups. Why not? BECAUSE you can’t prejudge them because (with the exception of Muslims) many of them are WHITE. Without the skin color as an identifying factor, you have to judge people by their ACTIONS. All we ask is that you do us the same way.
Thank you for this response. I’ve been so enraged by these posts i’m literally at a loss for words.
You are welcome. Don’t them get the best of you! Eventually justice will win!
As a percentage there are more black criminals, murderers and poor than whites.
yes.
This article explains why 95% of blacks voted for Tyrant Obama after is disastrous first 4 years. Why they are so vulnerable to manipulation such as what the progressive fascist did with the Zimmerman/Trayvon incident. They used lies to prey on black racism in order to motivate blacks to vote in 2012.
Conrad, the alternative to Obama was giving the country back to the Party who ruined it. Bush set the republican party back 100 years. And you all voted for that clown twice!! Lol
Your full of it. Obama is an evil liar. He uses lies as a political tool to win support for his destructive policies of failure.
Just look at how he promised over and over that if ObamaCare passed those that liked their insurance could keep it. Yet he know all along that he was lying.
Then consider how Senator Obama told a largely black audience in New Orleans after Katrina that they weren’t getting a waiver of the Stafford act like NY and FL because they were black. That was a lie and Senator Obama knew it was a lie because the waiver had passed two weeks earlier. What made this lie even worse is that he had voted against the waiver.
The financial collapse in 2008 was largely the responsibility of Democrats who forced the banks to make loans to people who had no possibility of paying the loans back. They claimed that everyone had the right to own a home and that the banks were discriminating against the poor and minorities by turning them down for loans at a hire rate than whites. Well the Democrats got what they wanted, banks stopped checking peoples income before making loans and that is the root cause of the financial collapse.
The only reason our economy is still such a disaster is because Tyrant Obama’s policies are disastrous. Yet anyone who criticizes him is a “racist”.
Of course Obama is a liar as are all Politicians..but what is idiotic is that you all let Republicans lie to you while they bend the middle class over and screw them with no Vaseline. Then after you take it up the butt AND GET PISSED ON…you protect your assailants by lying for them and saying they didn’t screw you and piss on you. That is insane. I am not an Obama fan. He is governing like a Republican. But listen to your hypocrisy. Congress was the reason Bush MADE NO MISTAKES….but Congress has NOTHING TO DO with the mistakes Obama has made.
You people….brainwashed democrats and republicans…are killing our country faster than any politician ever could.
Why don’t they rally for smart blacks to take lead?Oh,there are NONE.
If you believe what you said was intelligent, then we really know who is dumb.
Your mistaken. Allen West is an example of a smart black and there are lots of other examples of intelligent blacks. The real problem is that there are so many blacks like the school children described in this article.
Get truthful with your DUMB selves,problem is, none can read this.
So, you actually feel like you are smarter than Cornell West (you probably don’t know who that is), Colin Powell, Condi Rice, Magic Johnson, Will Smith, and a host of other black people who are clearly of superior intellect than you?
Colin Powell is an idiot ,because he supported the worst president in American history ,twice,meaning O.Colin just can’t get it that this guy is a fraud,which makes Colin a fraud.Condi,no one in the black race,ever respected her when she was there,and now that she is gone,wow a black woman with brains! Black democrats have no idea ,how they have f*** up this country,and its always up to the whites to get them out.Bush saw the talents of Condi,You people didn’t.Magic and Will were just lucky to get out.And they are Dumbo O fans,which tells me, they ain’t too bright.
You didn’t answer the question smart guy. Are you smarter than these black people.???
Only idiots support Tyrant Obama and the progressive fascists.
That doesn’t answer the question. Condi doesn’t support Obama…are you smarter than she?
Blacks ARE fucking STUPID.Their own fault.They deserve what they don’t get.
If black families would take more responsibility for raising their off-spring, the black race would not be in the miserable condition it is in. They perceive themselves as VICTIMS of the system and pass these attitudes on to their children.
Exactly! The situation they are in is because of lack of family, mainly fathers in the home! Fathers who are role models.
Is it the same for the 15 Million more poor white people that poor black people?
rebel, does that include the 76% of black families who are successful? And does that take into consideration that there are 15 MILLION more poor white people in this country?
It can’t be 76% because 40% of all black men are criminals. In prison, jail or on probation. Not only that but 95% of blacks support Tyrant Obama no matter how disastrous his policies are, how they suffer under his rule and how many times he lies to them.
Don’t forget the the 70% black illegitimacy rate. A successful family is a man (with a job) married to a woman (with or without a job) raising children together.
[…] Which brings me to the other conversation on the way home. The welfare system does two things. The first is that it leads people to think that they have a right to an income, regardless of what they do. And this has consequences. […]
this won’t be posted long. It racis’
please consider teaching in a more structured and diverse school. All you are portraying right now are stereotypes that are not consistent among all blacks, especially those who grew up in suburban areas with parents as doctors, lawyers etc. I am not denying the fact that some of the allegations are true, but I think you need to expand your research farther than the south. For one I grew up in Howard county, one of the richest counties, with black friends whose parents were both doctors, living in over 500,000 dollar homes etc and I and my friends, blacks, attended universities such as Georgetown, George Washington, Howard University and the likes. There is ALSO a difference between African blacks and american blacks ie educational zeal, life styles, attitudes etc. Thank you
This teacher was talking about the vast majority of black children who attended the school he taught at.
This is truly sad to hear but rings true as I know a young teacher who teaches in a tough part of town, she loves to try to help the community yet has learned after meeting parents of students who have the tear tattoo on their face signifying they have taken a life or prostitutes on drugs, that it is what occurs at home that lead these children to grow up without all of the opportunities their ancestors fought so honorably for. I myself have walked down the street and a random black man who was not young, spit at me. These extreme examples of hatred and ignorance are who are rearing these children who are angry but without any understanding of how they are privileged to get this opportunity to make a life for themselves. Free schooling, free food… all they need to do is apply themselves with an open mind.
I feel sorry for this teacher, I honestly do, but this article is out of
line. This teacher had an opportunity to teach, and failed. The author
clearly gave up on the students and justified it by the actions of
teenagers and then saw it fit to generalize his one teaching experience
to whole southeast region of the country. For the record, I’m a black
female, I like all types of music, I am highly educated, and I was a 4.0 student all through out school. I’m not saying that black people don’t have issues, and I have no problem speaking about them (www.blackwakeupcall.com), but if I felt like a teacher, especially a white teacher, didn’t want to teach me, I
didn’t have an urge to learn. If a teacher isn’t giving 100% and
teaching, why should I, as a child, give 100% in the class room? I do
understand the issues, but he has to understand the struggle. On a
related side note, this is why there are so many black boys on
medications that they don’t need, this is why there are so many more of
“us” in special education. If a white man doesn’t understand your child,
he then has the power to place labels on your child, which could alter
his/her life forever. Please note that for every child placed in special
ed the school receives more money… Please keep that in mind before
you allow your child to be placed on medications or removed from the
general needs classroom.
The teach tried, but you can’t teach those who don’t want to learn. If you consider the children he describes in the article it’s clear that the problem is with them, not the teacher.
You can take the monkey out of the jungle…….
I could write a book, and may yet get around to a book about my experiences in a ‘multiculti’ NWO ‘experiment,’ and the racist harassment and violence I experienced right from the start, from finding the ‘we don’ want yo he’ misspelled note in pencil, and the slammed doors, and the threats, slander, subversive calls to workplaces, etc., leading to attempted murders, and the murders of two friends (one was the son of a friend.) And so on. With blessed exceptions, Blacks of the world are united in their hatred of white people, and covetous of all we have achieved. We ignore this at our peril.
The exceptions cannot speak up and out, unless they have standing like West and Carter, because they, in turn, become targets.
Jean Rhys died in poverty because she wrote the truth: her book, ‘The Wide Saragasso Sea,’ is a serious warning to any and every population under duress: stand up to the bullies and chase them down.
This should be a must read for every stinking white traitor liberal
Did you say stinking white traitor?? LMAO! Some of you racists are really stuck in the 60’s!! Funny!
The progressive fascist party are “stinking white traitor liberals”. They want to “fundamentally change” AKA destroy our country so they can create their progressive fascist paradise where they rule a one party state and the state controls every aspect of society. Just like in Nazi Germany and the USSR.
You believe in the boogie man and tooth fairy too?
The reality speaks for itself.
fruition of hate….
Liberals like to hide in their gated white communities and then preach politically correct BS about how blacks are just like everybody else. People like this teacher see reality every day. People that have no choice but to live around blacks see this reality every day. Law Enforcement sees this reality every day. Black culture is diametrically opposed to the white man’s idea of civilization. Race mixing will never, ever work.
Did you just say Race Mixing? Lmaoooooo.! Stuck in the 1960’s are you? Funny.
As opposed to the ghetto gangsters who are all stuck in the 70’s? Oh look, there’s your hero, tupac.
You do know that Tupac was in the 90’s right? lol
But Dr Dre is so 70s, and was rapping about the same stuff tupac was rapping about 20 years later. American ghetto scum hasn’t progressed at all in at least over four decades, despite how much money is poured into their areas to help them.
I don’t really think the race is the issue. It’s the perception that comes along in certain kinds of enviroments.
Perception is realty.
Sure, that makes reality different for everyone.
It’s not race, but culture. These are the children of the Ghetto Gangster culture.
Yes, but cultures are derived from racial beliefs, values and traditions passed onto their children. The Black “value system” passed from adult to child is one of a lack of compassion for others; a general “me first” attitude. Civilized societies are not cultivated from these seeds of thought. Conversely, this is exactly the mentality and subsequent behavior that destroys societies.
skin color and nothing other than they think he is a black like them
Funny how the right loves to say black people are playing the race card …BUT AGREE WITH THIS ARTICLE THAT IS ABOUT NOTHING BUT RACE! Which is it? Race does matter or Race does not matter??? Can’t have it both ways.
Democrats fought a Civil War to keep blacks as slaves. Created the KKK and wrote Jim Crowe laws. Fought the Civil Rights movement in the 60s. Democrats are today and always have been the party of RACISTS. The GOP was created to END slavery.
Democrats are soon going to lose the 2nd Civil War too and I cannot wait. America is awaking to the Democrat Liberal threat to our very existence and it is going to get really ugly rally fast.
While blacks have raged about everything for a hundred years they have completely forgotten what WHITE RAGE is… That will get corrected soon indeed.
Andre, you are very right.
Dusty, you are very delusional… have fun planning your strategies for your “2nd Civil War” / WHITE RAGE implementation, but please, keep your sadistic ideas in your unfortunate mother’s basement!
Dusty…lets see how dishonest you will be. Which way do the overwhelming majority of KKK members and Aryan Nation members vote these days?
Apparently you think you have a point. You might as well ask which party gay pedophiles overwhelmingly support…
As for your inane original post, you ask a really stupid and misleading question. Then you follow up with “Can’t have it both ways”?? Please. Saying that blacks base their whines on race doesn’t mean one also bases HIS arguments on race, it means what it says: blacks are overwhelmingly basing their views on nothing but paranoid race fantasies, fed to them by those in the minority outrage industry such as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. People are getting rich doing that, and you’re helping them.
You really need a few courses in critical thinking and logic…
Are you trying to say this article does not focus on Race? If it does focus on race (which it does) and the racists on here agree with it (and they do)…THEN it is a double standard and hypocritical to condemn blacks for using the “race card” (which is just right wing rhetoric because there is no such thing), and then proceed to engage in the RACISM that you all say does not exist! How is that for logic?
POVERTY NOT RACE , HOLDS BACK URBAN STUDENTS
http://schoolmatch.com/articles/poverty.htm
And Poverty is created by WHAT??? NO EDUCATION….you cannot get a good job without an education…Guess you missed that point huh?
That is a different topic because there are 15 million more poor white people in this country than poor black people.
Did you even read the article? Smh
So what? This article was about the poor inner city blacks who are trapped into poverty and dependency by their culture and government handouts.
Not true..this article was about ALL BLACK STUDENTS.
“For those of you with children, better a smaller house in a white district than a fancy one near a black school.”:
Culture and family support are far more powerful factors in education decisions made by youth than poverty or race will ever be. Examine, if you will, the effects of well-meaning but blindingly stupid welfare programs upon poor families of every race. They have their ambition and dignity stolen by politicians who use them as pawns, and are taught that it’s in fact the OTHER political party who’s keeping them “down”. Someday all eyes will be opened and those responsible are going to pay a heavy political price for their social genocide in the name of “justice”… What we don’t need is more well-educated shills posting up studies designed to perpetuate the lie.
This is a myth perpetuated on those who will not look beyond the political agenda of the conservatives which is the complete obliteration of the poor. There is no ambition or dignity stolen from those who are on welfare. Over 80% of ALL welfare recipients are off assistance in 5 years or less. In addition, the vast majority of them HAVE JOBS. So, a help up is not the same as a hand out. This is propaganda perpetuated by those at the top who are clear that the divide and conquer strategy has been and always will be an effective way to keep the rich rich and the poor poor. This has ALWAYS been the haves vs. the have nots. It is just that poor and middle class conservatives CAN’T SEE WHICH GAME IS REALLY BEING PLAYED. The belief that this is about moving the country forward and helping the poor by taking away welfare altogether is complete nonsense. This is political and emotional manipulation of the unsuspecting in order for the rich and powerful to become MORE rich and powerful. All they have to do is get poor and middle class Americans to vote against their own best financial interests in the name of a political ideology. Hmmm….isn’t that what conservatives do?
So your strategy here is to simply lie about the facts and hope people don’t check up on you? You’re not only a class-warfare propagandist, you’re an economics ignoramus. I would bet just about any amount possible that YOU make a lot more money than I do, you hysterical twit. The difference is that you’re either a race-baiting opportunist or an embarrassingly and irresponsibly ignorant loudmouth. Nothing in your above screed is factual, but it certainly does perpetuate the minority outrage industry, which makes me think that you’re probably financially sustained by them. Nice try, Goebbels Junior….
Man, the hysterical twit comment was hilarious! It did really make me laugh out-loud.
Anyway, let’s tackle your claim that I gave no facts.
1) 80 percent of all welfare recipients are off in 5 years or less.
“The majority of families who leave the welfare system do so after a relatively short period of time — about half leave within a year; 70 percent within two years and almost 90 percent within five years” — Urban Institute
Hmmm..almost 90 is over 80 right??
The others are logic. Please show me a capitalistic society in the history of the world where there was not a battle between the haves and the have nots.
I am sure I do make more money than you but only because you made reference to it. However, It is because I own a couple of businesses..not because I pander to a crowd of emotional black people. With that being said. If I make more than you, then you are middle class…PLEASE PLEASE tell me how it would benefit you financially to have had Romney voted in to office.
It would have benefited everyone if Romney was elected president. He would have turned the economy around so instead of welfare and unemployment checks people would have good paying jobs. Furthermore, they would have a president who didn’t lie or try to trap them into dependency on government.
You must be communist to think that the rich want to keep the poor poor. The rich make lots more money when the country does well and the poor become educated and hold jobs. That way they can achieve a higher standard of living, become good employees and buy stuff.
You are actually mistaken…rich people make MORE money in recoveries from recessions or depressions. Check out the gap between the rich and poor…AND the amounts of income increases for the rich and everyone else during the recession created by Bush. You will find that rich people actually made MORE money during the recession than they did during the booming times of Clinton.
So you think that all poor people end up as members of the Ghetto Gangster culture? How does that explain the millions of people who came to this country and were desperately poor and succeeded through hard work? Poverty isn’t an excuse for criminality and joining the Ghetto Gangster culture.
I agree. That is why only a small percent of kids are in gangs and ghetto culture. You are operating from a position of bias brought about by conditioning. That is not your fault, but it is a fact.
They wouldn’t be poor if they weren’t so lazy and “entitled”.
Or maybe if racists like you weren’t making hiring decisions. Ask an employer who has intensive labor jobs and see who works harder? The UNANIMOUSLY consider white workers the worst workers. Mexicans first, Blacks are second, other minorities third, and whites forth.
Not that you care what is true.
Must be why evil whitey is the guy in charge then, eh.
You say “I find it interesting that NO ONE has had the intellect to refute anything in the essay.”
Well sit down brother, you arrogant SOB because I’m going to refute your whole damn diatribe.
Take it from this little old anthropologist. I taught at an historically black college, in the rural south. I worked with black churches doing research projects and I worked the black youth.
I question the qualifications of this teacher. This article is revealing as much about you as it is about the students. This article has so many red flags for me I feel like a bull in a china shop and all I want to do is break a lot of dishes.
Problem #1: “Most whites simply do not know what Black people are like in large numbers, and the first encounter can be a shock”
So Black people no matter their age, gender, location, rural or urban, middle class, rural sharecroppers, chicago union workers, all behave the same. Not to mention college professors. I’ve been in marches with Black people and they behaved better than many of the white people.
Lesson #1: To my white brother, if you are white, when you talk about all Black people that is blatant unadulterated racism. And, I don’t care whether you are black or white. My name is Jackson and I’m white.
So that’s worth a whole stack of dinner plates.
Problem #2: ‘The mainstream press gives a hint of what conditions are like in black schools.” What the conservative media says it what you report, lack of discipline, poor learning environment. What the liberal media write is poorly funded, inadequatly paid teachers not unlike yourself. Melissa Harris Perry just last evening spoke of the dangers of living in all Black communities.
All Black people are not all the same, all Black students or schools are not all the same and thank God all teachers are not all the same because if they were like you Black kid in this country would never learn.
Solution #3: For you I don’t see a solution other than a brain and a year long exposure to cross cultural communication education.
Maybe this one is worth a few cups and saucers.
Problem #4: You say, “One of the most immediately striking things about my students was that they were loud. They had little conception of ordinary decorum. ”
OMG What the hell is ordinary decorum. Have you ever seen the Bill Mayr show? Or the View. Or Bill O’Reilly. They are just rude. There is no standard of ‘ordinary decorum’
You say, : “It was not unusual for five blacks to be screaming at me at once.”
You should be glad that five Black boys care enough to scream at you. If they didn’t think you worth talking to you they wouldn’t. They’d talk to each other and ignore you. This is the whole redeeming thing in the whole article. Just maybe they thought you had some redeeming qualities because they actually interacted with you.
When I went to teach in Edmonton Alberta, myself and another professor from California were told, “we took up too much space” meaning personal space by the Anglophones. Now the Francophones and I got along famously. Interpersonal behavior differs from culture to culture. Hell it differs from North Carolina to Peoria, Illinois.
When I taught elementary school in Southern California the little Portuguese kids all talked at once. The jumped on me hugged me all had to tell me their stories.
You say, “Instead of calming down and waiting for a lull in the din to make their point — something that occurs to even the dimmest white students — blacks just tried to yell over each other.”
I’d take animated exuberant Black kids any day over white kids who have had the exuberance bled out of them.
When white kids act like the Black kids you are describing we put them on Adderal and diagnosis them with ADHD throw them in special ed and stigmatize them for the rest of their lives. Then we give them special help to get through college. I do not deny the white kids help however school isn’t good for them either. Why do you think so many white kids are home schooled?
Solution #4 Get another job or, work to get the Right Wing leadership in the State
to recognize that without government assistance there will never be
decent schools for the Youth.
By now I wouldn’t have any plates left in the cabinet.
Problem # 5 The next few paragraphs are attacks on the rap culture. One of the only original creative art forms in the US.
Solution # 5 You know if you hate everything about Black Youth and Black Culture, then you don’t belong teaching in a Black School. If you can’t meet the kids where they at you’ll never move them to where you want them to be.
Problem #6 And attacking the difference in acceptable body type of Black Women and attitudes towards their bodies. News Flash the Black people who were brought here as slaves did not come from Europe where Victorian and Puritan morality totally screwed up White peoples attitudes toward sex and bodies.
Solution #6 Get over it. Black women, white women Brown Women Gray Women and,, Yellow women all have different body types. You sound pretty misogynist to me.
Problem # 7
So now that you have established the education is not meeting the needs of Black Youth and that Black Youth who are without hope, that Black youth who are living in a part of the country where a significant number of their neighbors would like to see them dead, do not blame liberals. It is not liberals who are voting down funds for education. It is not liberals who voted down the stimulus package that would have benefited the poor in the poorest realm of the kingdom. Education in this country is a joke. It is a travesty and a disaster.
Solution #5 Instead of blaming the victims, instead of stereotyping all Black people, instead of admonishing Black people to take their kids out of All Black Schools. Don’t you think it would make sense to create learning environments that start where the student is at and move them to a place where they like so many of their successful counterparts are bicultural. It helps to like where they are starting and to actually like the kids.
There are many wonderful teachers who have inspired Black youth to do great things against surmountable odds.
After all of this, I am soooo grateful for a bit of humor. I must say I howled in laughter picturing you trying to teach a bunch of Black students about British Philosophers.
Did it ever occur to you to talk about W.B. DeBois Franz Fanon or any of the Black Intellectuals. It just shows how completely out of touch this educational system is with the lives of contemporary youth or any youth for that matter.
Trust me, I’m old and I’m white and if you tried to teach me about a bunch of dead old white men, I’d be dancing and gyrating too.
Education in the US public school system is a travesty. I have friends with PhDs. who dropped out of southern schools because they were so bigoted and these are White friends. Evolution was illegal to be taught in Arkansas until 1968. Books in biology were glued shut when they talked about evolution or sex. Some teachers cheered when MLK was assassinated. Students whose parents were clvil rights workers were called Nigger lovers. Schools didn’t fly the flag at half mast. Kids said good riddance he was a troublemaker, started riots. Which of course he did not.
Who ever you are, I when am beginning to wonder if you have ever been a teacher in a Black School in the Rural South at all.
Well there you have it. Someone who finally took the time to refute your diatribe blaming Black youth for their lack of education, motivation, and resources.
I wish that I could imagine that the author of this article completely lied about being a teacher. However, as a white teacher in a predominantly black school, I can read through a lot of the disgusting language in this piece of writing and see that he is actually drawing these conclusions from real experiences in the classroom. I have encountered the cultural gap myself.
What I also see is that this is a man who has absolutely no interest in allowing himself to grow and learn as an authority figure. He has stopped trying to understand his students, and they can sense that. I’ll bet they are (or were) rude, loud, and disrespectful towards him… because he deserved it.
Someone who is more interested in whining on the internet than facing the problems he gets PAID to solve (e.g. Why don’t my students know what the Constitution is?), has no right to be in the classroom. I sense in this article a disgusting lack of professionalism, educational knowledge, passion, and perception.
Last but not least, I would like to point out that the struggle this man went through as a teacher is not a one way street. For every time this selfish person throws up his hands (his words!), one or more of his students do the same. And without a paycheck to motivate them, students lacking a caring teacher may just throw their hands up for good… and that tragedy will be on the hands of those of us who decided that we were too good to put in a fraction of the effort we expect from our minority students.
Thank you, Eileen, for your post.
Teachers are suppose to teach. They present facts and try to help students understand and appreciate the world around them. That is what he did.
It is impossible to teach when the students don’t want to learn. Just consider all of the examples the author gave were the black children refuse to learn and in fact embrace the destructive culture of Ghetto Gangsterism and welfare dependence. It is impossible for any teacher to overcome that culture.
There is a fundamental truth in this article. It explains why 50 years after the end of Jim Crow laws and 150 years after the end of slavery a huge number of blacks are still trapped in poverty and criminality. The problem isn’t in society, discrimination or government. It is in them. Those who belong to the ghetto gangster culture are doomed to poverty, criminality and failure.
Altruism is a uniquely white characteristic. No other race possesses this Christian-like concept (but ultimately self-defeating) racial characteristic.
Despite TRILLIONS of dollars pumped into black “anti-poverty programs”, new schools (in which these black bastards STILL refuse to learn, and regard education as “acting white”) and excuses for their criminal, feral behavior, they STILL will not assimilate.
It is curious to note that Africans who come to America want NOTHING to do with American blacks, preferring the company of whites and Asians.
It is no secret that the African tribal chieftains who sold their own people into captivity were smarter than once thought. They did not sell their “best and brightest”, but sold their low IQ “slackers” and “conquests of war” into bondage–people they wanted to get rid of.
Let’s not forget the black slave owners (yes, there were many, who treated their charges much worse than white slave owners). In fact, the real-life “Cinque” (portrayed in the movie “Amistad” which was based on real-life events) turned out to be one of the most prolific slave traders himself, traveling to Africa on many voyages, in order to procure “human capital” (slaves). . .
That being said, “we should have picked our own cotton” . . .
Africans have dominated their countries for thousands of years yet they never created a civilized culture. Europeans went in and modernized their world for them and the blacks destroyed it. Now they’re murdering whites 200 times more often than any other European country. So many of them are beasts and savages who live to steal what others have worked and created.
The problem dates back to the slave trade. The traders got mostly the dumb blacks in Africa, thus the cesspool of genes created in America as the smart ones were able to evade capture. The genepool of the American black is one of complete dummies / lazy and retarded.
Based upon what I see in modern Africa your assertion is false. America has many great Black Americans. Thomas Sowell and Walt Williams come quickly to mind but we have many many untold black American heros everywhere. The problem is this “modern black culture” that Liberalism has given a pass to.
Africa is a cesspool for the same reason this school is a cesspool.
All things are possible with God.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/thisisourcity/detroit/detroit-school-where-jesus-is-head-of-class.html
Remarkable dissertation sir. Sad but remarkable.
I am shocked that the author of this post is a history teacher.
Some of this shock recedes when I remind myself that he is a Southerner,
but perhaps that is a form of prejudice on my part. Regardless, for my own credibility’s sake I will claim that my (perhaps unwarranted) judgment stems from a collection of negative personal experiences when it comes to the intelligence levels of proud Southerners…
I always avoid “commenting” on articles or blogs I read (in fact, this may be my
first time), but I have recently seen this particular article shared, critiqued, and reposted in so many places online, and I’ve become increasingly surprised at how much positive reception it’s getting… It seems a little strange writing this to nobody in particular, but I feel the need to respond all the same.
I guess it’s expected and relevant that I include my demographics: I am a middle class white female living in the south suburbs of Chicago. My parents sacrificed a huge portion of their income to send my brother and I to private grade school and high school because of the poor reputations our public schools had. All of my
teachers, and almost all of my classmates, were white.
I recently graduated college with a degree in social studies education. To complete my degree, my last 4 months as a student were spent student teaching at a predominantly black south suburban high school. Much like the author of this post, I had very few white students in my classes (roughly 8%) and even fewer Hispanic students (roughly 2%). Many, possibly most, of my students were “low income,” and received free lunch and breakfast.
Many of the characteristics the author observes and despises in his black students and his “black school” sounded vaguely- but not completely- familiar to me. After reading the article a second time, trying to make up my mind about what exactly the PURPOSE this article was, I realized I only recognized some of the author’s observations because he had failed to complete them.
Here, he has failed to do a historian’s job and look beyond the surface of the problems he encounters. For example: rather than realize that he has failed to teach his students enough about the Constitution, he admits to laughing alongside them in their ignorance. Rather than strive to earn the respect of the impressionable
children in his charge, who have a twisted and self-deprecating view of White America vs. Black America, he allows them to (seemingly constantly!) insult both him and themselves.
As a young, inexperienced (student) teacher, my first few days in the classroom- especially as my cooperating teacher started leaving me alone in the room with my students as the primary authority figure- were hell. I struggled to communicate with my students. Most were loud, blunt, seemingly uninterested and initially disrespectful. Those who were not resented my inability to accomplish anything besides plead for the students’ attention and, occasionally, press the security call button to avoid bursting into tears.
As I slowly, and reluctantly, began to throw out my ideas about how a classroom was run, and how people were supposed to interact with one another, my students (and I) began to learn.
I am trying really hard not to be cheesy, here… To be clear, there was no fluffy “Freedom Writers” shit going on in that classroom. I worked my ass off and made VERY little progress with my students in terms of their reading comprehension and formal writing styles. On my last day, I received some beautiful, heartfelt notes containing the likes of “I gonna miss u” and “dont be fallin for them kids at other schools u be going too.”
But, there is something that I appreciated in my poor, black students that stem from the same things that this author whines about in this article. I can see that several other commenters have touched on this idea as well. Perhaps these students have learned to be loud because nobody ever listens to them.
Maybe they are correct in thinking that textbooks, tests, and tardy bells have been tailored to communicate ideas effectively to those who are accustomed to formal language and structured schedules. Obviously many aspects of our educational system need to be examined and changed, but it really just seems to me as if this “teacher” made no effort to reach his students. Instead, he decided to resort to a
racist rant in which he makes himself the victim.
Next year, I have decided to work in a school district that serves a poor, black community. It isn’t because I think I can be a hero by correcting speech patterns while simultaneously proving that I’M NOT A RACIST by trying to ignore my whiteness and my students’ blackness… I hope the sarcasm is evident here, because I am fully aware that kids in every neighborhood have fucked up lives, and they are all in need of caring teachers. No teaching position is nobler than another.
It’s for totally selfish reasons. I really enjoyed teaching my black students, and spending time with them between classes and after school (something this author claims “blacks” don’t like to do). I loved the daily words and phrases my students would teach me (“ratchet,” “turn up,” “buggin”…), and the roaring laughter they rewarded me with whenever I tried to incorporate them into my speech. Black students in America may, in general, be much more cultured than the average white student. I did not have a black teacher until my junior year of college (she was from Ghana, not the U.S.) However, virtually no minority students in American can graduate 8th grade without putting up with a white teacher.
I believe that black students need white teachers, Hispanic teachers, and Asian teachers. I believe they also need black teachers. I think, ideally, white students would have access to a wealth of diversity in their educators as well.
Anyway, I think I might be rambling. Perhaps someone will read this, and perhaps no one will. Either way, I have put a little piece of my philosophy in writing, if even just for my own eyes, and I would just like to end on this note: I think these students- the ones he describes as collectively defensive and accusing- are on to something. Teenagers are not idiots, and they can sense when their teachers do not want to be around them, and have no faith in their intellectual abilities. If this article is an accurate portrayal of the author’s capacity for understanding, historical or otherwise, I have a hard time believing he actually did find a more desirable teaching position. However, I am extremely happy to know that he no longer has to put up with his fat, loud, horrible students… or rather, that they have to put up with him.
“Nobody is listening to them”? Youre kidding right? These nasty children get more money and tax payer benefits heaped upon them than any white straight A student anywhere.
The time has come to start holding these miscreants responsible for their actions and non actions. No more Warehousing these nasty little animals on the productive peoples backs..
ENOUGH BIATCH… Your Libidiot indoctrination prevents you or any L:iberal for that matter from doing the job that is required in any Black classroom…
Thanks for reading my post, Dusty. I would like to point out, however, that the one thing that you point out (my suggestion that perhaps nobody is listening to them) might be misunderstood on your part.
Firstly, the “them” I refer to is not the general black population. It was just another way of expressing how ill-equipped this “teacher” seemed when it came to communicating properly with his students.
Secondly, I think you make an AWESOME point when you suggest that it is time that black students take responsibility and pride in their work! What a wonderful opportunity we have as teachers to set high standards for our students, and create for them a structured environment in our classrooms that can help them succeed in society.
I speak, however, not from indoctrination (as you suggest I do, while you ironically appear to yourself!), but rather from education and experience.
OH! And props to the colorful language you’ve included in your post to a stranger! None of my students, black or otherwise, have ever called me a “BIATCH,” so I’m glad that I’ve experienced something new today… (not as happy to hear you refer to other people as “animals,” but I find comfort in hoping that someone with your apparent levels of respect for humanity and society will not go far enough in life to actually influence others significantly).
Have a great day, Dusty… and again, thank you for reading! I think I kind of like this online discussion thing!! It’s cool sharing ideas like this, as long as everyone can keep their head on straight!
Did you just try to REASON with that guy? lol This should be good!
You haven’t taught in the same type of school as this teacher. There may be hope for your students. There is none for the authors students.
He set standards and the students failed them. Not because of the teacher, but because education had no value to them. Teachers can only teach students who want to learn. You can’t expect them replace their parents and overcome the culture their parents imbue them with.
Tell me how such a huge percentage of blacks are criminals and live off of welfare by choice. If they wanted to break out of the ghetto culture it is possible, but they choose not to. They could go to school and learn. They could refuse to have children when they are children and refuse to have children without marriage. They could join the military or go to college. The problem is that they choose poorly and suffer the consequences.
Look at how successful the Cambodians or Vietnamese have been in our society. The vast majority of them lived through a horrible war and extreme poverty, yet they come to our country and succeed. The difference is that they don’t embrace the ghetto gang culture like these children do. They chose wisely.
I am an African-American college graduate and I find this article disturbing.
First, this teacher makes a strong assumption that all blacks are a certain way when in fact this teacher is speaking of his experience in one location, specifically the south. The south is where the spirit of racism is extremely prevalent, in whites and in blacks.
Secondly, this teacher has completely ignored what is considered a basic understanding of sociology. Here’s a refresher: . In all races of people, there are different SOCIAL CLASSES. Most of the blacks he encountered were obviously from the Low Class. I find it very difficult to see blacks acting that way if their parents were educated and had some type of professional career. There are low class whites, Latino’s, Asian’s and they all have some level of ignorant behavior as well (park cars on front lawn, higher crime, bad schools, etc.)
As a black growing up in a predominantly white middle class suburban neighborhood, I learned that whites can be very ignorant just like blacks. I have white friends who were drug addicts, criminals, cussed like sailors, disrespectful to parents/authority,and had no regard for life. The only difference is that their parents have money and this conceals their issues until they they decide to go a different direction in life. If you are from a Middle Class, you may have the option to screw up and make it right later, but if you are from a Lower Class, especially a black lower class, you do not have this luxury.
Lastly, another issue that most whites do not understand about blacks is that blacks are currently going through an identity crisis. The problem with slavery was not just the fact that our ancestors were enslaved, but that the whites erased our heritage, history, and connections back to our ancient ancestry. Now over 250 years later, we have nothing to identify with. We can’t really identify with the Africans, because they see us as being spoiled and unappreciative of the lifestyle that we have in America. We also no longer understand African culture. We can’t identify with the whites because they were the ones who enslaved and discriminated against us which in turn left us with a certain level of animosity toward them. We can’t really identify with being American because America systematically segregated and oppressed us pre and post slavery. So the only thing we could do is find a new identity. Sadly, the prevailing identity blacks aspire to was birthed out of poverty and a feeling of being inferior to whites. Then to top it off, you have the emergence of the pimp culture of the 70’s and the rap music culture of today which has set us back another 100 years.
So what I am saying. Well, I am in no way making excuses for blacks. What this teacher noted in his classroom is not something that should be taken lightly. I am ashamed to hear of this behavior in his classroom and anywhere in America where this type of conduct occurs. I do some volunteer work in the inner city working with young black males, and it is something I take dear to heart in order to correct. But before people stick their noses up and try to marginalize all blacks in the way this teacher did in making assumptions that all young blacks act this way, just understand that your attitude shows you are more ignorant then the people you are trying to stereotype.
Uh oh John, they are NOT going to like what you just said! Lol.
Im sick and tired of hearing excuses from Blacks..
You got the affirmative Action degree someone that actually earned and deserved it should have received and your proud of that?
Wow, I didn’t know affirmative action gave out degrees. I don’t seem to remember anybody helping me pass all those college Engineering classes. Was there an affirmative action version of the tests? Man, I worked a lot harder than I needed to if what your saying is true.
Enjoy your day Dusty.
How do you think Choom gang Obama got into an thru law school if it wasn’t for affirmative action?
So, every black person with a degree got it because of Affirmative Action?
If you don’t want people to think you got by because of affirmative action and white liberal guilt then you should oppose affirmative action. It is by definition racist and wrong.
Yes.
How dumb can you be? Did you even graduate from High School? If so, it was probably because they were just trying to get you out of the school after flunking 3 times.
What this teacher saw in a south eastern school, I saw in a liberal west coast school. It happens in the majority of schools with a large percentage of black students.
Graduate in what? Violence and gun culture?
Wow, racist much? You must be a very intelligent person.
In
1954 segregation was deemed unconstitutional in public schools by the Superior
Court, which was 59 years ago. That is roughly three generations that
blacks have been able to get the same type of education as whites. With
that out of the equation, the majority of whites in America have many
generations in families where proper social graces are handed down to one
another, unlike blacks where they were often sold, shipped and traded around
(often being torn away from loving families they made), and not taught
such things that privileged whites would have naturally learned or acquired
through having the upper hand throughout the years, in the traditional family
life. This essay really begs the question: is this teacher’s rant really
merited? Or is he mirroring the same
ignorance he is scolding those who obviously come from a less privileged
position in life that he does (only with proper spelling and grammar)?
It is also interesting to know that he is teaching in a poor black neighborhood,
the teacher would more than likely receive a similar outcome if he was teaching
in a poor white neighborhood; albeit, the hardships of being a poor white
person and a poor black person are nothing in comparison due to the history and
hardship poor blacks, and a majority of blacks have had to endure throughout
the years, something no white person could relate to, perhaps maybe they could
understand it, but they are not black and have not lived through it. Therefore, you’d expect, or assume a privileged
person of any given race who makes cracks at how an entire race of people do
not know anything about their own history, let alone care to learn about
history, should know enough about history that the very country that is
employing him to teach these students has also held back the black American
people for hundreds of years. Instead of
scoffing at the misfortunes of such people, as a teacher it is his job, not
just his job his duty as a teacher to find a way to empower his students, as
opposed to making rants on Craigslist about how he is failing to reach out to
these students, and crying about a job he chose at will to take.
Despite the
horrible stigma he has slapped on an entire race of people, there are a fair
amount of successful black Americans who despite a history of living in impoverished
circumstances, recognized that they are the ones to find a will and a way to
break the cycle of poverty, not look for handouts, and earn more than a mere
50k income, and become multimillionaires. However, if we are speaking something in
understandably reachable circumstances for the average Tyrone, or Chantee we
have to realise that the average black person will notice hiccups that the
average white person may not with economic disparity because much more white
people are able to get ahead with loans to start businesses and use their homes
as collateral, whereas a fair amount of black people trying to make a
head-start in life do not have these homes to put up for collateral. However, it just makes the process longer in
comparison to whites; it does not make it impossible, and does not stop a
successful mindset.
Sadly this waste of an essay is a sad attempt at portraying
an entire race of people as all the same, based on the author`s inadequacies as
a teacher to succeed in reaching out to children that he is in a position to
empower. The author has made a fool of
himself in front of an informed audience of readers of any given race, be it Black,
White, Native American, Spanish etc., that are the wiser and know, and probably
work with or associate with empowered black people.
John, I tried to tell them that! They (those who hang on to the racial animus) don’t want to hear it.
The
first time I noticed this article it happened to be on facebook, but a link to
someone else’s wall, which directed me here. I was going to post this
there, but I did not desire to cause rifts between them, and focused my
attention in posting here.
Andre It is a shame that some white people such as the author of this article,
who have a credible position in life aim to discredit an entire race of
people through an argument of ignorance! It is also a shame that the
herd mentality of those nodding their heads and agreeing with this person as
you’ve relayed are yearning to see something more than a two second meme insult
to feed their stereotype depictions of people like me and I assume you as well,
and will buy into such a pathetic article without using any critical
analysis.
It is a shame that your efforts in educating the uninformed have gone in vain;
however, there is hope! Perhaps you’ve place a seed of doubt in their
sordid logic, and I’ve read a few of your posts and agree, with what I have
read. So hopefully while they don’t want to hear it they can see people
like us do not write in a style that is uneducated, hopefully they see that
while people may not be equal we’ve taken the last 59 years of education that
has been bestowed upon us to better ourselves, to not show them up, but to
empower white people or other races with informed knowledge that we
are not all one and the same and act with herd mentality.
That we were the first powers to be in this world, we were the first Kings, and
Queens, we did establish architecture, statues, philosophies, written languages and much more that
amazes and mystifies this world today, in fact if it wasn’t for African decent people who learned how to survive the first stages of human evolution the human race would not exist! We have a lot to attribute to ourselves, and just because there was a hiccup over the last few hundred years does not mean that we are not able to get over it and be in a better position in the distant future. Hopefully, this does not mean that there will be a reversal in racism just that everyone no matter what skin tone one happens to be can refrain from using ignorance based on race against each other.
John, what is even more sad is when you try to help educate them with facts and logic, they get defensive and begin to attak the messenger and not the message. The people on here who are perfectly fine with stereotyping an entire race because of the actions of a few get extremely angry when it is pointed out that 30% of whites in America are still racist. Do, you know how ironic that is? They believe the vast majority of black students are crap (when there is evidence and facts that say otherwise). They believe the vast majority of black adults either benefited from Affirmative action or are on welfare (when there is plenty of evidence that says otherwise). And yet, we don’t say the vast majority of white people are racist, JUST 30% (BECAUSE THERE IS PLENTY OF EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THIS). They call US RACIST!!!!! LOL Their hypocrisy knows no bounds!
Thanks for your post! Peace
“Peace”… That’s effing rich coming from a racist Libidiot like you…
Do you have anything intelligent to add to the conversation? There is nothing racist about me. I love my white Goddaughter. My white best friend. My over 300 white friends.
Calling me racist because I point our racism is like calling a person a rapist for pointing rape..smh.
Get a grip.
Being a progressive is worse than a racist. You are dedicated to the destruction of our country, AKA fundamental change so you can implement your progressive fascist paradise. You are statists who believe in the superiority of the state over individual freedom and want to give the state to control every aspect of our lives. Just like the Nazis and Communists, except you put a happy face on your evil.
You just make shit up because you don’t have a intelligent argument. Lol. You have been indoctrinated by the right wing propaganda machine that has canned responses like the one you just gave when there is nothing else to say that is LOGICAL.
Right wing play book:
1) Make a ridiculous claim about who is ruining the country (mostly about race and poor people)
2) Try to back it up with BS stats and emotion.
3) When the claim is pointed out to be illogical ATTACK THE PERSON YOU ARE DEBATING WITH.
4) Pretend it is all in the name of Patriotism when it is really just about how narrow-minded and overly emotional you are.
So can you defend Tyrant Obama’s lies to the nation? How about you can keep your insurance and doctors if you want too? And ObamaCare insurance is better and cheaper? How about him using the IRS to cheat in the 2012 election? Or falsifying the unemployment statistics before the election? How about lying about Benghazi, covering up Hilary’s criminally negligence and leaving the 30 people at the consulate to die? Just a few of is most disgusting indefensible actions. You can’t defend them except by resorting to lies.
Why would I defend Obama?…I am not an Obama fan.
I only point out the hypocrisy from both parties. You all fight like children and lie to justify defending your side at all costs.
The author didn’t say all black people or that all the blacks attending his school are like these. He was reporting on the behavior of the majority of black students who attended the school he worked at. You can’t deny that what he says is true and common among poor blacks. Why do you think such a huge percentage of blacks are criminals?
Very good post John, couldn’t have said it better.
Thank you very much 🙂
The author wrote about the vast majority of black “students” attending his school. It’s likely that they are representative of most black “students” in the USA, but he didn’t claim that.
These students were given the opportunity to better themselves, but chose not to take advantage of it. They are stuck in the black ghetto because their choices.
We have people who come to the USA after suffering worse fates than these students. Consider the Jewish holocoast survivors who had the majority of their families, relatives and friends killed and were worked to near death in concentration camps. Then there are the Cambodians who survived Pol Pot who murdered millions. These people actually suffered horrible tragedies in their lives and do much better on the whole than blacks.
Not true…the author of this article said
“For those of you with children, better a smaller house in a white district than a fancy one near a black school.”
That is not even MOST that is ALL black students.
You are so busy trying to defend the guy because he is white and you like that he is demonizing black people that you don’t even care to know what he actually said…smh
Most black schools are in poor neighborhoods which have embraced the ghetto gang culture like these students. Students that are doomed to failure because of their culture.
He doesn’t claim that all blacks are like the majority of his black students. He was talking about his students and the students at his school. He says that a few of his black students wanted to learn, but the vast majority of them refused to learn, and embraced the criminality and welfare dependency that is inherent in the ghetto gangster culture.
Your just trying to ignore reality by blaming the messenger. You know that there are a huge number of blacks that embrace the ghetto culture. They chose to live off of welfare and criminality and have no appreciation for education.
This is what he said…..
“But the real black is not on television, and you pull your purse closer when you see him, and you lock the car doors when he swaggers by with his pants hanging down almost to his knees.
For those of you with children, better a smaller house in a white district than a fancy one near a black school.”
That is ALL BLACK SCHOOLS …even the ones in the “fancy” neighborhoods.
Stop making excuses for bigotry….unless you are a bigot yourself.
All sane people respond to young black men who clearly belong to the ghetto gangster culture by being careful they are not assaulted or robbed. Even J Jackson admitted that when he is walking down a street in and hears people behind him he is relieved to find that they are not young black men.
It’s a fact that a huge percentage of young black men are criminals. Anyone who want’s to survive would take care when encountering them.
That is propaganda that people have been brainwashed to believe. That is what racism does, it preys on the fears of the emotionally immature. Let’s take rape for instance….94% of all white women who get raped get raped by WHITE MEN….yet if you ask a white woman who would more likely rape her if she sees pictures of a black man and a white man…9 times out of 10 she picks the black guy. That is conditioning…not reasonable conclusions.
Got no job to go to? You have replied to nearly every comment on here, over the spate of a year. I guess you are unemployed and use your food stamps to pay for the broadband the white man invented.
Lol, People who work don’t have free time?…smh. You are reaching now because you don’t have the intelligence to refute anything I say. I understand lil guy. It’s not your fault…it was passed to you from your parents.
Your free time seems to be unlimited. This post is well over a year old and yet here you still are, waiting for unsuspecting posters to rebuke with your pro black agenda nonsense.
This is so sad…but unfortunately true for many Blacks in America. As you can likely tell from my picture, I’m Black (which means predominantly of African descent). On the one hand, this seems like a very intellectual form of racism (hold on, I’m not playing the race card here, keep reading!) in the sense that this teacher (presumably a White male) uses broad terms that imply this is his view of ALL Blacks. On the other, this sadly seems to be the norm in many communities, to the point where the exceptions are so rare that they’re almost not worth mentioning.
I grew up in a predominantly Black & Hispanic neighborhood, but I went to a private school in a different neighborhood (which was also predominantly Black, but definitely less “ghetto”). Many of the problems described by the teacher of his students seem to be not so much a matter of ethnicity as a matter of CULTURE and UPBRINGING. Their parents are sending them to school expecting for the schools to not only teach them, but also discipline them and basically raise them in their stead. I wouldn’t be surprised if many of their parents are like those girls who plan to have lots of babies in order for the government to give them money so they don’t have to work.
Most of the Blacks I knew growing up (and still know now) were not like this. Yes, some children were unruly, but not nearly to this extent. Then again, my exposure to other members of my ethnicity was mostly confined to church members (Christians, people with morals and values) and schoolmates or teachers (and the private school I attended was a Christian one). The first public school I attended was Michael E. Debakey School for Health Professions (affiliated w/ Baylor). The majority of students were actually minority students (Black, Hispanic, Asian, etc.), but considering the type of school it was and its entrance exam, it’s no surprise the students there were hard-working and dedicated to their studies.
However, the next year, my mom transferred me to a magnet program at a different school, which also had a very good program. Thing is, it was in a minority neighborhood (I think the idea was that those in the magnet program–mostly Whites–would help to pull up the school’s average). This was the first time I really saw this kind of victim-defeatist-whatever mentality. I kind of knew about it in a vague, general sense, but I then saw firsthand those for whom being Black was at the crux of their identity as an individual.
Because I used correct grammar (I’ve always been obsessed w/ speaking correctly), I sounded “White.” Because I liked rock, alternative, and techno music, I wasn’t “Black,” and so on and so forth. No one was outright hostile to me, and I honestly don’t take offense to being called that (my identity is found in CHRIST, not my skin color), but the mindset that one can be quantified by their ethnicity was definitely there. I didn’t, however, know anyone so bad as to have babies just to take advantage of the welfare system, though (even though a few 14yo freshmen had 2yo sons (whom they loved dearly)).
Really, I think the only way to fix this problem (Blacks’ all-around bad behavior) is for those of us who have made something of ourselves to work one-on-one with these children. Obviously, their parents don’t care, or they’d discipline them properly (or at LEAST TRY), and it’s really not the government’s job to take care of our kids (although sometimes it seems like they’re trying to steal away that roll), so it’s up to those who care to reach out to them. Otherwise, the cycle keeps repeating itself: girl has lots of babies out of wedlock (likely by different guys), uses them for welfare, buys stuff for herself and neglects children, children see what she does and want an easy life when they’re older, so they just copy her. Few will try to break the cycle, and fewer still will succeed, but kudos to those who do. I believe Dr. Benjamin Carson is a prime example (although his mom was hard-working).
Vueiy, Although I respect your opinion, you miss the mark in a couple ways. It is clear that you meant no malice as did the author. It is clear you would like to help rather than send most of us back to Africa as two posters want. However, your belief system is that of a stereotypical person who is “disconnected” from the issues that face the black community. This disconnect in most instances comes from a feeling that once a person has managed to escape the pitfalls and failures of the poor black communities that it somehow makes them an authority on how to change the plight of poor black people. In addition, you all begin to accept the propaganda and misinformation of those who have chosen to judge an entire race of people based on the actions of a few. Once you have accepted this nonsense you begin to repeat it. Some uninformed soul hears what you and others like you have to say and accept it because it is coming from a black source and believe that your remarks couldn’t possibly be racist. Then they start to repeat it. It is a cycle of discord and degradation that, although not intentional, is just as (if not more) detrimental to the problem. Even more hurtful than when actual racists say the same things. Let me explain.
1) You don’t make clear that it is a minority amount of black people that you are speaking about. When making generalizations such as “this is unfortunately true for many blacks in America” you help perpetuate the MYTH that the MAJORITY of blacks in America are as the author describes them. And in this PARTICULAR instance, you help promote the fact that white kids would be better off going to poor white schools than affluent black ones when that is just patently absurd. Affluent black schools outperform poor whites by just as wide a margin as affluent white schools do poor black ones. Words have power. So, please be careful when using “many” because people often times take “many” to mean most. If you want to test that statement, tell a white person that “many” white people are racist and see what your response is. 30% of white America is still racist. In sheer numbers that would be over 65 MILLION racists in this country…so technically that is “many”. But say that to white people and see how important the word many is.
2) It is Christians perpetuating the stereotypes, carrying out the systematic discrimination, the hate, and marginalization of an entire race. The black people you with the bad behavior are “Christians”. The KKK and Aryan nation are “Christian” organizations. These lying Politicians are “Christians”. So, please don’t pretend some migration or acceptance of “Christ” is going to change anything for anyone much less poor black people in America.
3) One-on-One from people who have made it can help a few, but it won’t solve the problems of the poor black communities that are riddled with crime, low self esteem, and 50% of the culture dismissing education as unimportant. There are 4 schools in San Fran in poor black communities that have 100% graduation rates and 100% college acceptance rates. This was not achieved through one on one mentoring. It was achieved by schools, teachers and communities giving a damn about POOR BLACK CHILDREN. People don’t care how much you know until the know how much you care. You don’t think it is crystal clear to students that “whitey” who wrote this article didn’t care about them, and really despised them? A person can not hide who they are and how they feel on the inside for any sustainable period of time. These schools can be duplicated if people WITH MONEY actually cared about what goes on in the hood. This is not to say that some people with money wouldn’t donate or help out. But, they haven’t made a concerted effort thus far. But, the solution is MONEY. Economics effect every aspect of our lives. Change the economic status of these neighborhoods and you change the teachers, administrators, and even the curriculum. Then you change the performance. If you don’t believe me, check out the performance of poor white schools in West Virginia and Alaska who only graduate 68% of there WHITE STUDENTS and have some of the lowest test scores in the country. Then check out the affluent black schools which have very high graduation rates and test scores. It should make it CLEAR that it is not skin color, but about economics and caring.
1. I can see your point there. Some people will think of the connotation of “many” (which for most would mean the “majority”) instead of the denotation (meaning a large number, but not necessarily the majority).
2. BLATANTLY INCORRECT. TRUE Christians are to operate in love. Yes, we make mistakes, and there are some who perhaps were raised by racists to be racist who need to overcome this, but God’s Word is clear that racism is not Christian behavior. (Fred Price’s series on Race, Religion, & Racism is very good at explaining this and more, though it’s quite lengthy.) There will always be people claiming to be one thing, but their actions make it clear that they are NOT. Politicians often claim a religion in order to get votes (although I believe some are genuine), and the hatred of the KKK and so forth makes it quite plain that they are also not Christians. One of my favorite quotes on the matter is, “Sitting in church no more makes you a Christian than sitting in a garage makes you a car.” And let me tell you this: accepting Christ into your heart is the ONLY way a person can be made new.
3. I should probably clarify that when I said, “those of us who have made something of ourselves,” I didn’t mean specifically those *Black people* who have made something of ourselves; I just meant people in general. And really, it just takes people with love and compassion showing that they care. You don’t have to be rich to help (although that certainly wouldn’t hurt); even just giving what extra you have can make a difference, even if it’s only in one child’s life.
Honestly, the problem here (w/ these children) is a total lack of discipline, and that is not society’s fault or the schools’ fault, but the PARENTS’ fault. Because they didn’t care or didn’t know any better, they didn’t sufficiently discipline their children when they were young (think preschoolers), so they grew up unruly and copying their peers’ and parents’ behavior (or worse yet, emulating rap music videos). By the time they’re teenagers (and quite likely around the same size as their parents), this behavior has been ingrained, and is much more difficult to break. Even if their parents want to discipline them at this point, there’s a good chance they’ll just run away or possibly fight them (physically). It’s sad, but reforming kids of this age would be quite the uphill battle…but it IS still possible. Money will help, but what it really takes is a heart to change for the better.
It’s pretty easy for a school to achieve 100% graduation and 100% college acceptance rates. Look how Trayvon’s school lowered the crime rate dramatically by changing the rules so crimes were not reported. Lowering standards and affirmative action can make your 100% easy to accomplish.
First thing you do is ensure that students who are unable to function quit school and are not counted. Next you create a test that is easy to pass as your graduation requirement and have the students work on passing it every year. Colleges are controlled by progressive fascists. They demand minorities attend their schools so they adjust the requirements so that 100% of blacks who apply are admitted.
So you think black people have some magic hacker working behind the scenes ADJUSTING ACT AND SAT SCORES????!! Lmaooooooooo. You people say some of the dumbest crap ever! And then you won’t even admit it is dumb after it is pointed out how illogical it is. That is what makes YOU DUMB….smh
That is liberal guilt and affirmative action at work. It explains how Tyrant Obama got into a good college and law school despite being stoned throughout high school.
Dumb
Yes, most blacks are, that’s why the AA program exists in the first place, little good it has done though.
It is a fact that half of the population of our prisons and jails are blacks and that is not because of racism. It’s because they commit crimes. They are from the same culture as these children.
You actually wrong about it not being racism. Black people are stopped 11 times as often as whites. Black people get 3 times the amount of time in jail for FIRST TIME offenses. Now, here is the most egregious injustice….in terms of sheer numbers whites commit 3 times as many crimes as black people…so how on EARTH can there be half of the prisons filled with black people if whites are committing more crime?
You are wrong. You could DOUBLE the amount of school funding and still come out with the same results. It’s the defective black CULTURE that is the problem.
The author has identified the main problem that has kept a huge number of blacks trapped in a culture of failure. We might be able to fix this, but only if people accept reality. The reality that there is a huge problem with the ghetto gangster culture and that something needs to be done to replace this culture with values that allow them to succeed like most other people in the USA.
Those that criticize the author are more interested in denying reality and calling the author names then solving this problem. The reality is that the children the author describes are representative of a huge number of primarily black people in our society. It explains why such a disproportionate percentage of blacks are criminals and on welfare.
My solution for this problem is to eliminate welfare as we know it. I think that the government should replace welfare for all able bodied people with jobs like the Civilian Conservation Corp in the depression. Have them build trails and roads all over the country and live in government housing near their job sites. If they don’t perform or break the law then they are out without any welfare. This would be tough, but force them to change and develop a new culture.
Balls.
GREAT POST…
This’ll take some time to read, or you can run your reader in the background while you play angry ferrets. It may “feel” a tad racist; I contend it’s objectively reasoned. I taught in VanillaVille, a mostly white, upper middle to middle upper community in the nine class system, but I lived in a ghetto for three years of university and near one in my yout.’ This writer knows things I’ve lived and much more.
Honestly, I believe the environment I was raised in proved to be that catalyst that set me upon a firm and good path. It’s true that there are the exceptions, but we are not large enough to overcome the rule…and I can think of several times I was accosted for attempting to ‘Be something that I’m not’. I never was quite able to understand what was wrong with my love of reading, of indulging in the world around me and its history; I was beaten often for being a ‘white-lover’ if I dared cross paths with my own race…and this was well through middle school.
I was raised by a father who had the good graces to do something with himself; he was a military man, and came home to work in Human Resources for a paper mill, while my mother was an RN. They encouraged me to seek out new experiences, to listen to new music and read through different novels. I never felt anywhere safer but in the comfort of my own home; I think I learned more there than I ever did at an educational establishment, save my last few years of high school.
Reading through this, I can completely agree with the viewpoint that was expressed. Being a black male is not nearly enough to guarantee a sense of safety. I couldn’t help but see anyone of my own color as but an animal that was ready to turn on me for being a sort of traitor. Never had any black friends, now that I think about it. All of my friends were white, because they adhered to a system of logic that I could understand, and a sense of compassion that gave me hope in a hostile environment. With so much time around them, I felt myself growing distant. It had even gotten to the point that I could barely understand when another black person spoke to me (In the rare times it did; I was thankful to find a group of friends that helped to defend me in those moments).
Time has passed. I’ve grown older, somewhat wiser. I work in a volunteer service in an attempt to get a scholarship towards my goal of being an English teacher, heavily influenced by a certain English III teacher I had who gave me one of my absolute favorite books, The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy. But even now as an adult, I find myself still feeling apprehensive around them, keeping my distance and to myself out of fear of an unwarranted reprisal of some sort.
We’re out there, those of us with minds, with the capacity to learn. It just makes a man break down when he knows that there are so few of his own he can relate to.
Good Lord, that article has been on the Internet for years now. It was cut-and-pasted to Craigslist to troll. The only part that isn’t pure copypasta is the intro about getting flagged.
Just because it’s still around doesn’t mean that any of it is false. After working in a university for 20 years, I can tell you that this is true even at the university level. I had a meeting with a student organization specifically for black students; I was asked to give these students extra help. Therefore, one of the things I did was to give them a tour of the library. The next day, a black woman who was NOT a member of this organization stormed into the office, saying that I was RACIST for taking those students on a tour of the library because that was implying they were stupid! Everything is racist to black people. Everything is fuel for the eternal flame of their anger. Their senseless, unending, violent, self-destructive anger.
You all created the monster now you complain because you can’t control it. Deal with it. If there hadn’t been 500 years of treating us like we weren’t human, there would be no racial animus from either side. Take Scandinavian countries who didn’t enslave 10 million Africans. There is NO RACISM over there. Take responsibility for the 30% of white Americans who are still racist today…including yourself. Then we can move on. But, as it stands 90% of racists in the country won’t even admit that they are racist. How crazy is that/
Why don’t you take control of your own? Why is it always someone else’s responsibility? Why can’t the black population take responsibility for themselves? I have never owned any slaves, and you were never a slave, yet you live in a perpetual victim status? Grow and and put your big boy pants on and be a man. Part of freedom is responsibility. Quit complaining about things that happened 150+ years ago. You didn’t live it and neither did anyone alive today. BTW – it was other tribes that sold each other off to the slave trade, go to the library and look it up yourself.
Why is it that you all say the EXACT same things? Do you all sit in front of the T.V or Radio and just listen to the rhetoric long enough that you can repeat it? If you read what I wrote. I said TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE 30% OF WHITE AMERICA WHO IS RACIST TODAY!..not from slavery150 years ago ….. TODAY! As we speak, resumes with black names men you get 50 percent fewer interviews. In 2013, people still get denied housing, loans, education, health care, and equal protection under law …just because they are black. This is not opinion or conjecture, it is proven, verifiable fact! You all want to deny that this happens because you are not brave enough to just come out and say you are racist BECAUSE OF TRADITION AND BIAS. This is why you come up with BS in order to try to justify your racism. Well let me tell you this…there is NO JUSTIFICATION FOR STUPIDITY. And Racism…regardless of what race is racist is STUPID.
As for the slave trade…..trust me I know more about that you do. And why is it that Africans selling Africans justifies what Americans did to Africans??????
God get over it already. Slavery is just an excuse. Jews were rounded up an SLAUGHTERED just 80 years ago and they are doing just fine. Blacks have been MORE than “equal” under law for more than 50 years and they have regressed culturally and economically. People do NOT get denied anything because they are black- they get extra benefits because they are black. I have lost THREE academic jobs to which I was applying because a less qualified black female was hired. Homey is not playing your game no more and we certainly are not buying your garbage. Take care of your babies and baby mammas, stop breaking the law and get back to work. Not hard if you reward that. Hard if you just whine and make excuses.
You have no idea what you are talking about. You are speaking strictly from an emotional point of view. You are angry at an entire race of people based on the actions of a few people in that race.
If in fact you got passed over because of a less qualified black woman then that PAILS in comparison to how many times I have been passed over for a less qualified, less competent, and sometimes less intelligent white person. Affirmative Action ( I am assuming you are referring to) had to be invented because of how uneven the playing fields were and still are because of white people who feel like you.
Let me ask you this (which not ONE person who feels like you has EVER been able to answer intelligently): If black people were not equal and hated by the majority of white people during Jim Crow 60’s and even early 70’s WHEN DID THE RACISTS ALL OF A SUDDEN STOP BEING RACIST?
Are you in the 30% of white America who still believes they are better than black people by virtue of skin color?
You are only speaking from an emotional standpoint. You obviously dislike black people based on information that is untrue. But, understand this…even if the things you believed about black people (that you won’t even be honest about) were true, it would be only a small percentage of black people who do all of the things that you believe. So, you judge all of us based on that actions of less than 20% in most cases. That, my friend, IS NOT logical or justified, it is ignorance.
As for the Jews, the short period of time, the 1 million people they lost, the fact that they got reparations, and the fact that they can BLEND IN to white culture COMPLETELY changes they dynamics. It is not even close to a fair comparison. After all, 30% of AMERICANS don’t hate Jews just because of their religion. But, 30% of white Americans hate black people simply because of the color of their skin.
It was way more than 1 million. Try 6 million.
It’s not a small percentage of blacks that belong to the ghetto gangster culture. Something close to 50% at least as 40% of young black men are in prison, jail or on parole at any time.
So what racist organization did you get the claim that 30% of whites are racist?
Lol..how can 40 or 50% of black men be in prison if there is less than 2.2 million prisoners nationwide and there are 14 million young black men? Even if we were ALL of the prisoners were black it would still only be about 15%.
It is also a very poor assumption to believe that because someone is in jail they are ghetto. What about the fact that white people commit times as many crimes in terms of sheer numbers? Does that make all of those white people Ghetto?
The 30% number came from Tim Wise…a white guy. Is he racist for saying so? What would be you estimate?
Nope–official Red Cross figures for ALL non-combatants was 173,000–NOT 6 million . . .
The panthers, lol
Oh shut up. No one alive today is responsible for slavery. No one alive today was ever a slave. The world doesn’t owe you a frickin’ thing.
And if slavery was such a bad thing then why did all this cultural degeneracy begin only in the past 50 years, long after slavery was abolished?
And why don’t you hold ANY blame for the blacks in Africa who rounded up and sold their own people into slavery? Surely they owe you a check too, right?
It was mostly blacks in Africa who sold other blacks into slavery.
Does that justify white Americans having slaves and the way that they treated them???
The alternative was to leave them there to die. We did them a favour, all the thanks we got for it.
INDEED!!! Nothing in this article shocked or surprised me. I have lived and raised my children with blacks- the laziest of the lazy- entitled beyond belief. I showed a young black man a different way of life- but the indoctrination of his RACIST parents will never truly change his life. As soon as the bullets started flying we got the hell out of the area as soon as possible. THE ONLY SOLUTION TO THIS ISSUE IS SEGREGATION- ONLY EDUCATED BLACKS WITH NO POLITICAL AGENDA CAN CHANGE THE COURSE OF BLACK CHILDREN TODAY. Then and only then will the CHILDREN be EXPECTED TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES!! DESEGREGATION AND THE KENNEDY-JOHNSON ADMINISTRATION DESTROYED THE BLACK FAMILY OF EVER ACHIEVING GREATNESS. The Doctor Ben Carsons of this world are few and far between and may never happen again! IF I WERE BLACK I WOULD DEMAND AN ALL RUN BLACK SCHOOL FOR MY CHILD!
Glad you are not black. But de-segregation hurt our community more than it helped, I agree. But what you don’t understand is that once we started doing well in our segregated communities, white people got jealous. Look up the only incidence of this country bombing its own citizens: Black Wall Street.
Lastly, education has much more to do with economics than race. Of course culture plays a part. But if you study affluent black communities you will find they have almost a 100% graduation rate and their test scores similar to whites nationwide. So, it can not be COLOR that is the problem..otherwise affluent black kids would be horrible too ..right?
The main difference between successful blacks and failures like those described in this article is culture. Successful blacks don’t have children out of marriage. They don’t commit crimes and they don’t live as leaches on society. They value education, hard work and adopt the same values as other American middle class people.
I agree with everything except the marriage part…because black people “shack up” more than other cultures. But this article like MANY,….not all…white people believe that the vast majority of black people are like the kids in the article.
Funny how those are exactly the same differences between successful whites and failures.
Here is how a black-run school district is run:
http://blog.chron.com/k12zone/2013/07/roaches-graffiti-and-china-found-in-north-forest-schools/
Folks, I too, have taught school in predominantly black schools, and I can attest that this sort of behavior goes on with regularity all over the USA, and it is, for the most part tolerated and if a teacher, especially a white teacher, tries to do anything about, he or she is called a racist and the administrators generally take the side of the hooligans. Therefore, the administrators undermine the teacher’s authority and encourages even more outrageous behaviors.
I, for one, did not tolerate this crap in my classroom, and I would single out the ring leaders (there is an Alpha Leader in all these gangs and mobs) and shut him or her down, and if necessary have them removed from the classroom, and the disruptions would end, and then the kids who Went Along to Get Along out of fear of retaliation from the Thugs after class and behind the scenes would punish them and beat them back into compliance. This is how all gangs operate. And, these thugs with the Grills, The Baggies, and Da Shine are the Ring Leaders of this outrageous behavior, and most other teachers and especially the black teachers not only condone this behavior, but also encourage it so as to stay in favor with the thugs who they secretly fear themselves, and besides, it is easier to allow this outrageous behavior than to teach a subject they likely are not qualified to teach to begin with.
The problem is NOT race, black people come here from Africa and achieve just like any other immigrant with hopes.
The problem is culture. The culture of the black American community is designed and steeped in failure. The reasons for this are not all apparent to the casual observer, I certainly am not an expert, nor do I purport to be.
I do see certain things that lead me to conclusions:
It is clear that progressive political ideology has co-opted the black community for the purposes of obtaining power. They do this by selling various forms of philosophical ideas that justify what amounts to the revenge of blacks against whites for generations of slavery and the following generations of oppression. To many, the idea that the progeny of one group should pay penance for the sins of their forebears to the victims of these sins seems perfectly justifiable.
The revenge comes in affirmative action, where minorities are afforded entrance to educational institutions and later into employment on the basis of lower standards than must be achieved by the white majority. It also comes in the notion that white people should pay for nearly unlimited stints on various social welfare programs for any black who desires to conduct their financial future based on government largess. It comes in the form of black employees who get away with behavioral infractions of company policies that would get any white person fired.
Affirmative action makes the successes achieved on merit alone, of black persons, suspect. I’m not saying those successes are not admirable and valid, what I am saying is that, absent conclusive proof of said merit and given what is known about the favoritism of affirmative action, one is not always sure the success was earned rather than given. The ONLY reason this matters is that those who do achieve success on their merits are followed by a cloud of doubt.
For anyone, of any color, race, national origin etc, the life of a person on government assistance is a rather lesser existence. It is a life where getting a low wage, entry level job will make one unqualified to receive further assistance, thus without long term vision of rising through the ranks of the workforce, one is hard pressed to find motivation to jeopardize the government hand outs with employment.
The black employees, who game the system to get away with poor performance or other issues within their employment, generate a hostility towards themselves that leads to personal discrimination of their co-workers who see their actions and lack of consequences as reprehensible and unfair. The problem with this is that it leads to more racial discrimination, somewhat justified, that leads to blacks screaming racism.
Not all blacks are guilty of the worst intentions associated with these things, though many are and it’s hard to tell for sure who are the ones that are ignorant of the cause effect relationships and which ones are just doing what they are taught to do to cope with life.
What I have found is that those who live in homogenously black neighborhoods, within the culture described, are not reachable, will not consider being friends or even friendly with white people who do not cater to the ideals that comprise white guilt liberal culture. The whites they do publicly associate with, they disdain when not present.
My opinion is based on stereotypes, ones to which not all individuals perfectly comport. There are exceptions to every rule…exceptions prove rules more than they dispell them.
Michael, thank you! You PERFECTLY illustrate in this post why African-Americans are not “just race baiting” or using the “race card”. You prove that racism is still a big part of the lives of black people in America due to stereotypes, myths, and propaganda. There are seemingly intelligent people who actually believe they can JUSTIFY racism..smh. Well here are a few of the hypocritical and/or illogical flaws in your argument.
1) The political affiliation of black people with the Democratic party was when we switched from the GOP and is now about Civil rights. Conservatives (who used to be Dem. but now are GOP) have historically and still to this day try to block and demonize all manner of civil rights. This is women’s rights, gay rights, immigrant rights, black rights, or any other rights of people who are not on the right. The propaganda that welfare is the reason that black people vote for Democrats has to justify the hypocrisy because it neglect the 39% of people on welfare who are white. And if those white people ALSO vote for Dems just because of welfare, why do you all ONLY assign this tag to the blacks in this category?
2) The oppression that AA have endured for 500 years had a profound effect on the psychological health of this culture that is UNIQUE to American Slaves. With that being said, that is NOT what most of us trying to call attention to. We are trying to open you all’s eyes to the fact that BECAUSE YOU BELIVE WHAT YOU BELIEVE CURRENTLY, black people are denied equal opportunities for jobs, housing, loans, education, equal protection under the law, health care, or a level playing field in any area of our lives EXCEPT SPORTS and Hip-hop Music only. You say you question the successes of black people because of the possibility of Affirmative Action being the reason for them getting the opportunity in the first place. Here is the hypocrisy: You would also have to question the successes of white people who benefit from nepotism, good ole boy networking, or just plain old being white. These things happen INFINITELY more than Affirmative Action opportunities. In fact, these are exactly why Affirmative Action was created! Surely you know that the playing field was not level during Jim Crow. You do know how desperately the south fought to KEEP Jim Crow laws. So, at what point do you believe that vast majority of white people (especially in the south) decided that black people are equal and should be considered equally in all fields? Please tell me what year that was…since you STILL don’t feel this way.
3) I have NEVER heard of any black neighborhoods (poor, middle class, or rich) trying to deny white people from buying homes there. Although, I am sure we can find a hand full of cases for just about anything, I think we can agree that housing and loan discrimination is almost exclusive to white people. In addition, there are so few black people who declare that they don’t want to associate with white people that it is hardly worth mentioning. If Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have white friends, what justification would any black person except for the most hateful have for not associating with white people. I take from your post that you have not spent any significant time in a predominately black neighborhood, so your speculation based simply on myth is slightly amusing actually.
Andre – what the fuck are you talking about?? You say “The oppression that AA have endured for 500 years had a profound effect
on the psychological health of this culture that is UNIQUE to American
Slaves” But facts point out your ignorance!1 500 years would put the date back to 1513 …. there wasn’t even a U.S. then smh….. also —-
About 600,000 slaves were imported into the U.S., or 5% of the 12
million slaves brought across from Africa to the Americas. The great
majority of African slaves went to sugar colonies in the Caribbean and
to Brazil, where life expectancy was short and the numbers had to be
continually replenished. Life expectancy was much higher in the U.S.
(because of generally better food, less disease, lighter workloads, and
better medical care) so the numbers grew rapidly by excesses of births
over deaths, reaching 4 million by the 1860 Census.
So the slaves in the U.S. were treated better and only 5% of the total slave trade came here ….. yet according to you “it had a profound effect on the psychological health of this culture that is UNIQUE to American Slaves.” So they were being fed better, less disease they had to suffer through here, they were worked less, and had better medical care ….. yet this has a UNIQUE effect on the blacks here to be worse than any where else? …smh
You say ….. “The propaganda that welfare is the reason that black people vote for Democrats has to justify the hypocrisy because it neglect the 39% of people on welfare who are white. And if those white people ALSO vote for Dems just because of welfare, why do you all ONLY assign this tag to the blacks in this category?”
But the facts say something else … Lower-income and less educated whites also have shifted substantially toward the Republican Party since 2008. and that’s according to Pew Research.So what you said doesn’t hold out in the wash since even low income less educated are leaning republican over the last 5 years probably longer …. so you are again going back to “history” to justify your argument! smh….
You say ….. I think we can agree that housing and loan discrimination is almost exclusive to white people….
“The housing bubble was inflated by federal policies created by
President Bill Clinton, then expanded by President George W. Bush. The policies were supported by Senator and then President Barack Obama. The policies were intended to help low-skilled Americans — especially African-Americans — and Hispanic immigrants gain housing wealth by pushing down mortgage requirements, such as down-payments.”
So ever since Clinton (1993 to 2001) blacks and hispanics were being loaned money that they did not deserve just because they were black and hispanic!! So you are going way back in your agument over housing discrimination which seems to be a crutch for you eh? smh….
All your arguments can be shown to be bullshit and just the ranting of another black using history to justify the behavior of blacks!! But I have been up all night or I could really crush your pathetic arguments with facts, graphs, spreadsheets and logic!! You are another damn whining cry baby that refuses to see the blacks problems are brought on by the blacks ….. over 70% illegitimate births anyone?? Think kids not having any idea who the hell their father is might fuck their heads up??
I’m so sick of people like you looking for excuses for your races failures when they are as obvious as the nose on your face!!
Dude, only RACISTS try to justify Slavery by saying that Africans were better off as slaves. You are out of your cotton picking mind! 500 years was the Transatlantic slave trade. But, Slaves in America…WAAYY more than the lie you believe of only 600k, were treated worst than any slaves in the history of this world except the West Indies. You are actually trying to convince your self that whipping a slave to death and making his family watch, chopping off feet, Selling fathers off so slave owners could rape the women and dismember the family, hanging men, women and children, and the raping of teenaged girls was GOOD TREATMENT and didn’t have effects on subsequent generations at all! You are smoking crack! lol
As for the numbers check out the 1860 Census.
1860
1860 – U.S. Census. U.S. population: 31,443,321. Total number of slaves in the Lower South : 2,312,352 (47% of total population). Total number of slaves in the Upper South: 1,208758 (29% of total population). Can you read that? How you like those apples? 600 Thousand for entire slave trade in America?? You are a funny guy.
You contradict yourself in your own lame ass argument. You are trying to impeach my argument that you all don’t assign the same blame to poor white people as black people for voting democrat. Then you sight a MIGRATION of poor white people to the republican party! That is dumb as hell!! If there is a MIGRATION of poor white people to the republican party..THEN THERE HAS TO BE WHITE POOR WHITE PEOPLE WHO VOTE DEMOCRAT…smart guy! Lmaoooo. So, if there are POOR WHITE PEOPLE WHO STILL TO THIS DAY VOTE DEMOCRAT…I will ask again…WHY DON’T YOU INDICT THEM FOR JUST VOTING DEMOCRAT BECAUSE OF WELFARE?????
As for the housing discrimination….49% of African Americans with similar (high enough) credit scores and financial backgrounds are denied loans as opposed the only 42% of white people with the exact same criteria. THAT IS RACISM! It is even worse for Hispanics who are denied over 50% of the time.
So your attempts at challenging my arguments, although amusing, fail miserably. But thanks for the laugh.
dumb fuck … I took my info straight out of the encyclopedia which to the last of my knowledge isn’t a lie …. oh unless the stupid ass opinion your spouting off here is THE TRUTH!!
And what the fuck does this even mean?
But, Slaves in America…WAAYY more than the lie you believe of only
600k, were treated worst than any slaves in the history of this world
except the West Indies.
What I posted was this dumb fuck … I know your having a hard time comprehend the words on this page but please strain that tiny little fucking nut you call a brain and read again!
” About 600,000 slaves were imported into the U.S., or 5% of the 12 million slaves brought across from Africa to the Americas. The great majority of African slaves went to sugar colonies in the Caribbean and to Brazil, where life expectancy was short and the numbers had to be continually replenished. Life expectancy was much higher in the U.S. (because of generally better food, less disease, lighter workloads, and better medical care) so the numbers grew rapidly by excesses of births over deaths, reaching 4 million by the 1860 Census.
This is fact and can be verified in any fucking encyclopedia you would like to check! And yes …. the fucking slaves in this country were indeed TREATED BETTER(I never said they were treated good dumb fuck) than the majority of those being sold from africa( by other black people selling your asses to slave traders … more facts you seem to want to ignore)that went to the Caribbean and Brazil!!
And then you go find an 1860 census to prove me wrong about the 600,000 slaves that came here not in the 1860’s dumb fuck but when the U.S. first started buying your dumb ass kin from other blacks in africa! If you would have just read … (or wait you may have read but you are so fucking stupid you can’t understand what I posted) it says so “the numbers GREW RAPIDLY by excesses of births over deaths(BECAUSE YOU WERE TREATED BETTER HERE THAN IN THE OTHER PREVIOUS MENTIONED COUNTRIES THAT THE MAJORITY OF YOUR KIN WERE SOLD TO), reaching 4 MILLION by the 1860 Census.” So you using a fucking census from 1860 just proved true what I had posted here in the first place …. thank you dumb fuck!!
And then you come off with this idiotic fucking shit …..
Then you sight a MIGRATION of poor white people to the republican party!
That is dumb as hell!! If there is a MIGRATION of poor white people
to the republican party..THEN THERE HAS TO BE WHITE POOR WHITE PEOPLE
WHO VOTE DEMOCRAT…smart guy! Lmaoooo. So, if there are POOR WHITE
PEOPLE WHO STILL TO THIS DAY VOTE DEMOCRAT…I will ask again…WHY
DON’T YOU INDICT THEM FOR JUST VOTING DEMOCRAT BECAUSE OF WELFARE?????
That is so fucking retarded I’m not even going to waste time proving how fucking dumb you truly are!! But I will say I HATE any fucking idiot that votes for a worthless, sorry ass, demoncrap…. poor, rich, black, or white!! so Lmaoooo some more SMART GUY …. but I’m not bothering to reply to you any more because facts obviously confuse you since you couldn’t even understand the FACTS I posted here the first time!!
But I am going to take your post and post it on Facebook so everyone can see how stupid and fucking dumb you are while trying to act like you are so intelligent! You can’t understand or comprehend shit I posted that was taken straight out of a encyclopedia …. not shit I made up like you did …. so fuck you numbnuts….. go pat yourself on the back, give yourself a piece of chicken, and tell everyone how fucking smart you are!!
“The opinions that are held with passion are always those for which no good ground exists; indeed the passion is the measure of the holders lack of rational conviction. Opinions in politics and religion are almost always held passionately.”
― Bertrand Russell, Sceptical Essays
Your inability to think critically is shown by your poor vocabulary and emotional immaturity. You don’t want to keep responding because you know you are not intelligent enough. Intellect is a function maturity, not emotion.
THE FACT REMAINS SLAVES IN THE U.S. WERE TREATED WORSE THAN ANY SLAVES IN HISTORY. You should be happy about that since you hate black people so much!! Why deny it?
Racism like religion is based on BELIEFS of the emotional…not facts. Couple that with the fact that you are just not very bright, means there is nothing I could say to make you think critically or objectively about this subject. You have been brainwashed and you are proud of it. It’s sad, you are sad.
GET A JOB!
This article first appeared in the printed July 2009 issue of American Renaissance.
Proof:
http://www.amren.com/ar/2009/07/index.html
Liberalism is not working, that’s plain to see. That’s what needs to change. These kids don’t need AFFIRMATIVE ACTION treatment they need to get their rear end kicked in order to join the society of producers. Those that can’t cut the mustard and won’t change then it’s a one way ticket back to Africa. That should shut them up about racism.
Where are you going to send the white kids (more dropouts in terms of sheer numbers than blacks) who are non-producers back to?
The poor whites did not seem to be the problem this article was talking about. They passed. It was the attitude of the blacks who were helped along with affirmative action policies and then developed an entitlement and victim mentality.
You didn’t answer the question. Where are you going to send the underachieving poor white kids who dropout?
You want an answer based on underachieving. That isn’t what the article was about at all. It was about the attitude of the blacks kids in this school from the teachers perspective. The teacher said the poor white kids passed through. I got from this the AFFIRMATIVE ACTION LIBERAL SYSTEM is not helping these kids. In fact it is doing harm by making them believe in the entitlement and I am a victim way of life.
The article makes a sweeping generalization about all black students. He doesn’t have empirical evidence in order to make such a determination.
True, nobody does. However, I didn’t take that away from the article. My take was the teacher wanted to convey the system was not working by catering to the blacks. It was letting them take the easy road instead of being forced to put the effort necessary to succeed
2 things. 1) He said “But the real black is not on television, and you pull your purse closer when you see him, and you lock the car doors when he swaggers by with his pants hanging down almost to his knees.
For those of you with children, better a smaller house in a white district than a fancy one near a black school.”
That is about ALL BLACK PEOPLE AND ALL BLACK SCHOOLS!
And if a person was being objective…it would be easy to see that there are plenty of black schools doing as good or better than white schools….especially POOR white schools. Which brings me to the second point;
2) POOR WHITE DISTRICTS have just as many dropouts and have just as bad test scores as poor black districts. So, this teacher trying to send white kids to poor white schools than affluent and/or better performing black schools is just plain racist. There is no other way it can be perceived by an objective person.
So, all the people posting on here trying to defend such nonsense are either misguided and misinformed OR racist themselves and feel it necessary to take up for this clown. Either way, I am not the enemy just because I am being objective.
Let me say again so there is no misrepresenting my position: Yes there are poor black schools , students, and teachers who leave a lot to be desired. They need to change and do better. Yes, the culture of poor black students who don’t have any goals for the future other than “trying to get by” is terrible. However, the VAST MAJORITY of black students (around 80%) are not these kids that this teacher referred to. And since the poor white schools perform at very poor level also, it is easy to see that education has much more to do with economics than skin color. So, those of us looking at the entire picture, instead of just the narrow minded view of it, can see how broad the problem of POVERTY is, not how “black people just suck because of the system”. Because if that were the case, then the author would be saying poor white kids suck because of the system too.
I don’t disagree. But I don’t believe Affirmative Action has any place in the system period. Many of these kids should be rear end kicked instead of babied along. Black or White.
That is not Affirmative Action. That is lazy, incompetent teachers and schools trying to keep their accreditation by graduating the minimum amount of students in order to do so.
The evidence is in the writers observation, and the observations of 99% of the posters. In fact, you seem to be the sole voice saying it’s all untrue and racis.
I taught for years in the Detroit Public Schools. I absolutely agree with and support these statements and observations. The only difference I saw is that the black students I had were prejudiced against light-skinned blacks: the blacker your skin color the better, as far as they were concerned. The one exception: blacks from Africa. The blacks hated blacks from Africa even if the ones from Africa had (or maybe because they had) the blackest skin of all. My assistant-principal was from Nigeria and the kids ridiculed him all the time. Bill Cosby is right: Until the blacks change their own culture, attitudes and behavior, nothing will change for them no matter what whites try to do. The blacks hated Cosby because he said this to them.
Why speak in such generalizations when a large majority of black students are successful?
Because, in fact, and as a whole they are not. All statistical, factual evidence supports that fact. Graduation rates, for example, do not reflect ‘success’ when most ‘pass’ because teachers are too intimidated or resigned to fail them in large numbers or at all. Most will not do even the basic work and refuse to learn, counting on the fact that teachers and the administration will pass them anyway to look good and protect their livelihood. Most black students graduating from high school, at least in urban, black areas, can barely read or write to any degree. Their own culture views academic achievement as being ‘white’ and, therefore, bad and undesirable. Until that changes, they will continue to fail, be impoverished and dependent. They want the whites to support them while they do whatever feels good. The problem most whites have is that they are susceptible to what one of my black colleagues called ‘doing the black thing on you.’ They call whites prejudiced and racist, etc., because they have learned that it will cause whites to back off (fail to require or enforce standards academically or otherwise) and let the blacks do what they want (goof off and avoid any effort that is difficult or challenging or fail to control disruptive behavior that they think is fun or scores them points in the eyes of their peers). Until whites learn that, they will continue to be viewed as ‘suckers’ by most in the black community and will continue to be subject to this kind of manipulation by blacks. It isn’t prejudice on my part or on the part of others who try to people what it is really like. Instead, it is our desire to change the system so that the black kids won’t continue to be, as another of my black colleagues said (after being forced out of her classroom by the disruptive behavior of her all black class and referring, as I later confirmed with her personally, to the black community as a whole), ‘an embarrassment to us all.’
If you are not using graduation rates and test scores to determine that MOST black people suck at education…what are you using?
And are you applying the same amount of dislike, disgust, and disdain to the poor white students in Alaska , West Virginia, and the other states that are over 90% white yet have students with high dropout rates and terrible test scores?
I feel sorry for you because you have your mind made up and decided to characterize me with a negative stereotype and negative feelings that I do not have. In fact, I persevered because I did care very deeply about the students. I was horrified by the effects that negative peer pressure had on those who wanted to and could have achieved and, instead, were dragged down by their peers and their culture. Several of my best students were killed as a result of black gang and drug violence.The concerns and observations that I shared were those of the majority of my mostly black colleagues as well, not mine alone.
That’s all fine and good. But, can you answer the questions?
If you are not using test scores and graduation rates to determine that MOST black kids are education averse, then what are you using to make your determination?
And do you view the poor performing poor white kids the same way?
Experience teaching to students. The fact that young black men are 35 times more likely to commit murder then young white men. That 40% of young black men are in prison, jail or on parole at anytime. That close to 80% of black babies are born to single mothers. That 28.75% of blacks are on welfare. I could go on, but I think you get the point.
You avoided the question. Are you condemning the 15 million more poor white people than black people. The 170,000 white men who rape white women (less than 12 thousand black men raped white women last year), the 32% drop out rate in West Virginia which is 95% white, the white men who are 12 times more likely to be a serial killer or 9 times more likely to carry out a domestic terrorist act? Do you consider that in terms of sheer number…. white people commit more crime in this nation that black; that there are more white people on welfare than black; that there are more racist white people than black; that black men get 3 times as much time as white for the same crimes; that black men are stopped and frisked 10 times as many times as white people for drugs even though white people are 4.5 times as likely to have drugs on them. I could go on an on ..but you get my point. The question is: DO YOU CRITISIZE WHITE PEOPLE THE SAME WAY THAT DO YOU DO BLACK PEOPLE??
It’s not a generalisation. Quite a lot of teachers have posted on here in support of the main articles assumption. They can’t all be evil lyin’ whitey racis’s, can they?
If the black community in this country truly wants to make serious gains they need only look at what Asian immigrants to the US manage to do within one generation. They emigrate to this country with nothing, learn English, work non-stop, save obsessively,, buy businesses and raise children who are required to excel academically and learn the benefits of hard work. These children of immigrants manage to blow every other demographic in this country away on the ACT/SAT/LSAT/MCT/GMT etc. They dominate Ivy League admissions and graduate school admissions. Their cultures disapprove of illegitimate kids and teen pregnancy so their rates of both are the lowest of any demographic in this country.
None of this is rocket science. When you are raised in a culture which has no respect for anything or anyone, you will never be respected. Black America continues to be the willing permanent underclass of the Democratic Party and Liberals. The sad thing is that after 50 years, they simply cannot learn that doing the same things over and over again will never achieve better results. Bad decisions equal bad outcomes. Always.
Black America is sadly undergoing a devolution at warp speed, and its no longer anyone’s fault but their own.
How do African-Americans who migrate to other countries do? They migrate to Germany, Austria, Japan, Spain, Canada,China and other countries and report that they are treated infinitely better overseas than here in the states and many of them stay. I have 3 relatives and 2 friends who permanently live abroad for this very reason. They are successful, productive citizens, who value education,learn the language,, open businesses and have children who do the same. I have one cousin who teaches at a university in Japan. She has only been there 5 years. So, although I understand what you are TRYING to say, your opinion is laced with prejudice that you don’t even realize that you have. Let me correct a couple of them. 1) the 24% poverty rate is the lowest it has ever been for blacks in the history of America. So, we are not devolving. Second, with 76% of the race being successful we have plenty of respect for ourselves and others. Third, institutional racism still exists. This means we are still denied housing, loans, college admission, jobs, and credit because of our color. We are still racially profiled by cops, given 3 times as much time for the same crimes, executed at twice the rate, and charged at a much higher rate for drug crimes when white people are 4.5 more likely to have drugs on them. In addition, otherwise good people like yourself believe nonsense and still have these prejudiced attitudes towards us. In fact, poor and middle class white people still believe they are better than even the most successful black people like Colin Powell, Condi Rice, President Obama, Michael Jordan, Oprah Winfrey, Bob Johnson, Chris Rock, and the list goes on and on. Although, I don’t know you and I don’t know if you are racist or not. I do know you believe things that are not true about black people and it makes me wonder where these beliefs came from.
Apparently they don’t play sports in Europe. http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2011/09/23/327234/a-bad-european-import-throwing-banana-peels-at-black-athletes/
In any case your examples are of single individuals or families moving to countries with very small Black populations. These families are unable to maintain their own culture and therefore they assimilate. The African American population in the US is large enough to maintain its own distinct culture.
My cousins have not assimilated. In fact, they are educating the Germans on hip-hop..lol.
The same as they do in america, they swarm into ghettos and live off the countries taxes.
What I hate is how Obama, the progressive fascists and blacks use faux charges of racism as a political weapon. Its sickening.
Take a look at all the idiots who say conservatives only oppose Obama because he his black. Obama’s disasterouse policies. His betrayal of our people in Benghazi and lies about it. His betrayal of the country and seal team 6 after OBL was killed. His illegal usage of the IRS against his enemies. His hypocritical lies in 2008 about how he wouldn’t spy on American citizens like Bush did. His lies about ObamaCare and the fact that he signed that disaster. Look at the persecution of Zimmerman. It’s evil to destroy Zimmerman’s life for political gain and that is what has happened. I could go on, but there is plenty of things to oppose Obama beside his race.
The divide and conquer used to trick white people.
http://www.mediaed.org/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=137
Well, black people are far more gullible than we are, they fell for Obama.
[…] cannot answer as to whether this is the exception or the rule for black […]
If Blacks ever become the majority , the USA will go the way of Africa and will become a Third World Country of Ignorant and Violence.
You do know Africa is a Continent , not a Country right? lol You do realize that there are successful black countries right?
yes and no really successful black country
“successful black countries?” Nope. That’s just false. You only have to name one, and you have already failed, because they don’t exist.
Here’s another challenge: find one with an average IQ above 85.
http://www.statisticbrain.com/countries-with-the-highest-lowest-average-iq/
IQ is a measure of education not intellect. That is why the Asians dominate. I wouldn’t expect you to be objective about this, since you can’t be honest about your racism. Was Jesus a racist?
I expect you are being “objective” but you are also not very smart. IQ has nothing to do with education. You can look it up, but here’s a start:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient#General_factor_.28g.29
Was Reverend Bacon a racist?
You can label me all you want, but you have nothing of substance to say. And you failed, even after my explanation, to understand my screen name. You also prattled about “successful black countries” which are rarer than “black chess grandmasters,” of which there have been a few.
This was in the link YOU GAVE ME…smh
IQ is the most researched attempt at measuring intelligence and by far the most widely used in practical setting. However, although IQ attempts to measure some notion of intelligence, it may fail to act as an accurate measure of “intelligence” in its broadest sense.
Now for some logic. Would a 10 year old who has had a great education score higher or lower than a 10 year old who can barely read? Thank you and good night!
As for you being a racist. You are..and you know it. You are just too much of a coward to say “i’m a racist and I am proud of it”. I can at least respect KKK and Aryan Nation members for being honest. I know where they stand. You and others like you are the ones pulling this country down. Great Job!
Please name a successful black country.
Do they have to be non-fictional …
South Africa, Nigeria, Morocco to name a few off the top of my head.
South Africa is coasting towards disaster after the ongoing White genocide is complete – it’s only coasting on White coattails right now and will end up like Detroit. I’ll bet ya!
Nigeria – are you kidding me?
Morocco – You call this a successful black country? You have to be kidding on this one too. Morocco is a partial civilization only.
I guess our definition of successful countries differs. Once again, if Whites are so unbearable to live with, why do non-whites fight tooth and nail to live among Whites? Who am I supposed to believe – you or my lying eyes? Normal whites simply don’t need or want non-whites in our living space. I have no White guilt. I want the right of association. What is so wrong with that?
The problem is your belief is the construct of ignorance and brainwashing. I don’t really care that you and the undereducated people who believe like you don’t want to live next to me. I just wish you all were brave enough to say it in public to our faces. It wouldn’t make me or anyone black people I am friends with want to be violent. We would respect that you all were not a coward.
Here is another problem, for some strange reason (that I hope you are intelligent enough to explain) you believe you and all of the other white people are better than me (who is more successful than most people black or white) Jordan, Magic Johnson, Bob Johnson, Colin Powell, Condi Rice, President Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Will Smith, and the millions of other black people who are successful. The question is …what is it about our skin color that makes you believe you are better than us even if we are more successful?
The truth is I really don’t care about you or what you do or what your people do. I believe that forced integration and assimilation in white communities and only white communities is obviously a program of white genocide. It eventually leads to no more white babies! I resent anti-whites pushing this program of genocide. I believe peoples should be allowed to go their own way.
I don’t think I’m “better” than you – I just like my people, culture and civilization better. Is that so hard to understand? I don’t want to be forced to assimilate with your people and other non-white people. Yet, there are no white countries that are allowed to remain white homelands. All white countries and only white countries are forced to accept massive non-white immigration and then forced to “assimilate” with them. This is so obviously white genocide. Diversity is just a code word for white genocide. When is the last time you heard Nigeria needs to accept massive non-black immigration and integrate with the newcomers? When is the last time you heard Saudi Arabia needs to accept massive non-Arab immigration and integrate with the newcomers? How come it’s white countries and only white countries that are forced to undergo “diversity”?
There is no such thing as white genocide. It is myth and propaganda used to manipulate people. Let’s look at the numbers to see if am correct. Whites make up 73 percent of this nation now. 24 percent of the rest of the country is ethnic. 3% is two or more races. So, since late 1960’s when interracial marriage between Whites and others was legal…there has only been 1.5% increase in bi-racial people in this country. At the current rate of .25% increase per year it would take 400 generations (not years but generations!) for it to just be 50/50 white people to others!!! Lol. You all are up in arms about something that would take over 1000 years before things are JUST EQUAL. Stop the madness!
As for white countries remaining white, Scandinavian countries are still less than 2% of other cultures. And they are less racist than the states. In fact, the “white race” never existed until the U.S colonies. Europeans NEVER considered themselves WHITE. They never lumped all Caucasians into one group just so they could feel better about themselves. Referring to people as “white people” is a completely American construct used to play poor and indentured Europeans against all poor and enslaved black people. It was divide and conquer. Divide the poor and middle class and they will never threaten the upper class. Guess what, it is still the strategy of the conservatives and it is still working. Sad but true.
There may not be such thing as “white genocide” there is however, such thing as the creation of white subservience. It is a simple fact that white people as a whole are constantly told that they are raciest. We are brow beat into thinking that we are intolerant and are constantly having “diversity lessons” shoved at us. As if blacks, mexicans, asian, ext. have never been or never will be raciest…..PLEASE!
While your numbers are interesting the fact is that America was founded by Europeans who were, to put it simply white skinned. So it only makes sense that 73% of this nation is still “white”. Africa for instance is 79.0% black people. I don’t hear anyone calling that NOT EQUAL. As for where the word “white people” came from, well, hmmmm, could possibly have been black people. While Europeans may not have started out calling themselves “white people”. It sure ended up that way.
You say that Scandinavian countries are still less than 2% of other cultures and are “less racist than the states”. Well, lets just think about this for a sec. If there is less than 2% of other races then there is not really any “conflict” is there. Many of those people could probably go their entire life and not see a black person. So why would they have anything less than “tolerance”?
In the end I think what this person was trying to get across in his essay was that there are large groups of black people who hate just as much and maybe even more than a raciest white person. That while segregation ended they still continue to keep themselves segregated touting that its “whitey” keeping them down. That the more whites try to “make up” make up for the wrongs of our past the more blacks feel entitled.
Melanie, it doesn’t seem that you are racist. It seems you are just trying to get a grip on this turmoil. I respect that completely. My goal when I replied at first was to just express that sweeping generalization such as the author of this essay made are always false and often come from a preconditioned attitude towards the object of the generalization. This holds true. The admonition of this author was to KEEP WHITE KIDS away from ALL black schools. Now, you seem like a reasonable person. So, you have to understand how absurd that is. You have to understand that it comes from a place of prejudice not just experience. There are many many successful black schools in this country. Some of them are in poor black communities! I understand the author’s frustration. But, had he experienced poor behavior (different but still bad) in the poor white schools who only graduate 68% of their students and have just as poor test scores…would he have then told all black people to stay away from poor white schools? I think not! The focus on skin color is almost uniquely British and American. My point was poor white schools perform just as poorly as poor black schools. That is a fact that can be verified. So, education is much more effected by economics than skin color. That is true.
You wonder were the term “white people” came from. It was NOT BLACK PEOPLE..lol. Europeans NEVER referred to themselves as white people. In fact, the vast majority STILL don’t. “White” was specifically constructed by southern slave owners in order to divide the poor and middle class Europeans from the poor and middle class Africans. This was necessary because the “divide and conquer” tactic was important in the upper class continuing to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. If “white and black” people (who worked in the fields together before this tactic was employed) were unified in their dislike of the exploitation that the upper class took advantage of, then the Rich would be in jeopardy of losing both control and status. Therefore they concocted this way to keep them separate. Give one group power over another and make them “feel” that they are better and you never have to worry about them unifying to threaten the minority of rich people. The term “cracker” was also coined by upper class white people who needed it to be clear that they were better than the slave drivers that they employed to “crack” the whip on the backs of slaves.
So although you seem well meaning, there are just a few things you don’t understand. That is not your fault. And I don’t expect you to change how you feel. I just want you to at least TRY to understand that when we call the white people racist who IN FACT hate black people because of the tradition of hating us, it is not because we benefit. It is because it is what we EXPERIENCE. The sane black people KNOW that the majority of white people are not racist. But we also know that there are too many who still are…and many of them are in positions of power! Although there is a group of black people who hate white people …very very few of them are in a position to effect the lives of any significant number of white people. Hate over skin color is DUMB regardless of which side it comes from.
I do believe that you are right in some ways. There is/ has been a conditioning of white people since slavery and then again after it was abolished.
It is interesting that the diversity “training”, the political correctness, that is constantly pushed on white people, seems to have kept focus on the difference in skin color, behavior, and culture. It is not making things better, all it is doing is constantly reaffirming that all white people should feel guilty and all black people should feel entitled. It is causing the rifts to stay open. Sad really!
As for the term “crack the whip” you are actually not right about that one. “Cracker” is an old term that was used primarily in the South, especially in Georgia and Florida, to poor whites and hill dwellers. Cattle driving was one of their main occupations, the “Crack” of the Cattle,not slave whip (rarely did they own slaves, and were as poor as any slave) was from where they got their name.
“Although there is a group of black people who hate white people …very very few of them are in a position to effect the lives of any significant number of white people.”
Heres the problem with that logic: Although those blacks who hate white are not in a “position to effect white people” their numbers can and will grow quickly. Hate is easily spread and because the government is so caught up in teaching white people “diversity” and “equality” they are not doing the same for those black people. So in reality it does and will continue to affect the lives of white people.
Hate over skin color is stupid I agree completely but I agree to that not because I have residual guilt from slavery or because the government tells me thats how it should be. I agree because (and I grew up in a town with NO black people at all and didn’t meet a black person in real life until I was around 10yrs) I see that people are people, they are poor, rich, happy, sad, educated, uneducated, hard working, lazy, they are what they make of themselves not what their skin color is.
I understand your gripe with “diversity” training and such. However I know well over 1000 white people. I have over 350 as friends. I know NOBODY who have ever been through such training. Here is the problem with your logic. If the government is hell bent on teaching diversity and equality they are failing for about 30% of the white population. The alternative to this push from the government is to do “nothing” and just HOPE the group of white people who are racist will just abandon their racial animus and vitriol and begin seeing people of color as equal and loving them as neighbors (as commanded in the bible). Surely you don’t believe after 530 years this will just correct itself do you? Or maybe you believe that it is ok that they feel that way about us. Either way, what the government does and what black people do have absolutely NOTHING to do with they way people feel about black people. Racism is rooted in a tradition of people’s HEARTS. This means logic, fact, or good black people won’t change how they feel.
Nobody wants white people to feel guilty about slavery except the racist Black people. We just want you all to UNDERSTAND that Slavery and Jim Crow have had a negative effect on the psyche of black people in this country. If families are destroyed and separated, women are raped, men, women, and children are beaten and killed over the course of 400 years, don’t you think the mental condition of that culture will be effected? In fact, the belief was that it would effect us for 400 years AFTER the slavery had ended. It was a plan that has worked almost as well as those who came up with it thought it would. This is not a commentary on white people today. The only problem white people today is many of them believe we should just ignore that slavery happened, we should ignore that racism still exists, and ignore the inequities that still effect us on a daily basis.
Whenever a racist actually denies a black person an interview just because they have a black name on a resume, or judge gives a black person 3 times the amount of time as a white person or other things like that…the white public says we are either making it up, we are “race baiting”, or we are just cry babies. That is up to and including when we get killed for just walking home from the store (i.e. Trayvon Martin). So, NO…we don’t want you all to feel guilty about slavery or Jim Crow, we just want you all to understand that racism STILL does effect us…and it is NOT because of anything that WE did other than being black.
Are you kidding, this diversity “training” is really brain washing. It starts in elementary school and continues into collage. It is in every work place and splashed all over the TV and Internet. Your gripe with white people and racism is moot when black people are just as raciest!
I am not sure how you can think that white people don’t understand that slavery had a negative effect on black people. You say that you don’t want us to feel guilty for slavery but that we should just UNDERSTAND. Well, there is complete understanding that slavery in any form is/was horrifically wrong and hurt the lives of MANY. There is any entire month dedicated to black history let alone the MANY hours of classroom time spent talking about slavery and the people who helped change it. Yet some how we just don’t understand.
I recently watched these interviews on the news regarding the use of the word nigger vs. the word cracker. The interviewer went and asked random white people on the streets if they thought is was ok to say the word nigger, using it in the way other black people use it with each other. The resounding answers was a horrified NO. Then they where asked if they thought being called cracker was offensive. The answers, “I would rather hear and be called cracker then hear or say the word nigger. Asked, “do you think being called cracker is raciest”? the answers NO.
Do you see the problem. When a black person calls a white person cracker its not out of love it is a raciest remark but we have been condition to think that is ok. Its ok for blacks to call blacks nigger but white people cant say it EVER. And its ok for a black person to call us cracker because only white people can be raciest.
White people are being conditioned.
Don’t even get me started on Trayvon Martin!!!!!!!!!
WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS 30% OF THE WHITE POPULATION IS STILL RACIEST?????
I would then say to you that 50% of the black communities are raciest!
Hate begets Hate. Until we both sides can move on from the color of our skin there will never be resolution! Its really that simple.
Melanie, you are missing a few things in your attempt to defend “white” people.
First, uttering racial epithets does not make a person racist. If it does, you are racist. I don’t necessarily believe you are. But, even if you were, you would not admit it. Anyway, I have white friends who I know LOVE ME (not like me or just tolerate me..but LOVE me) and they have used the N word. That doesn’t make them racist. It makes them “conditioned” by society to use the harshest language possible when passionate about something. What makes a white or black person RACIST is the BELIEF THAT A PERSON’S SKIN COLOR MAKES THEM BETTER THAN THOSE WHO DON’T HAVE THAT SKIN.
Please show me where black people are denying white people jobs because of their skin, or treatment at hospitals, or entrance to college, or bank loans, or equal justice under the law, or housing in their communities, or the dozens of other instances where white people treat black people like second class citizens. This JUST DOES NOT EXIST in America. In your haste to defend the white race you believe it necessary to indict 50% of black people of racism. Well that is simply not the case. There are a few black people on the fringe like the New Black Panther Party, the Moors and some NOI members who are racist ..that is to say who believe they are better than white people just because of the color of their skin. But, that is less than 2% of blacks. So, if you include those black people who just hate white people because of the actual racism they have experienced then you may get to 15% of black people hate white people. I don’t even think its that high, though. I don’t think it’s that high because there are too many Sambos who are willing to sell out the race in order to be accepted by white people. But that is just my opinion.
How much time have you spent in black communities across this country? lol. You have nothing other than emotion that tells you 50% of us are racist. As for me …I read Tim Wise. He is an expert on race relations in America. A white man. And after studying it for 20 years, he says 30% of white people in America still feel like white people are better because of their skin color. And they have racial animus against black people. Well I happen to believe Mr. Wise.
As for the conditioning it is just silly. My son goes to a white school. They spend less than ONE chapter in social studies on slavery AND the civil rights movement COMBINED! Half a chapter on them both? They didn’t teach my son (or the white kids) about Sojouner Truth, John Brown, Willie Lynch, Nat Turner, W.E.B DuBuois, Fredrick Douglas, Malcom X, Medgar Evers, Black Cowboys, Black Indians, Black inventors, the Buffalo Soldiers, The Tuskegee Institute, and too many other things to count in the formation and greatness of this country in which black people contributed. So, please don’t tell me you all are being “conditioned” by the teachings at schools because that is nonsense. With the exception of Malcom (who you probably hate because you know very little about him) and Fredrick Douglas you probably have never heard of those black people I mentioned. But, even if you do, 99% OF KIDS IN AMERICA BLACK OR WHITE do not!
Are there black people who hate white people…yes. Are their more white people who hate black people…YES! This is because for 500 years white people have been TAUGHT to hate black people. So, although it is much better now than even 30 years ago, please don’t delude yourself into believing that more than 70% of white people in this country have not been able to shake that 500 years of indoctrination. And the fact that you don’t “understand” that this STILL effects us as we speak is what I am talking about when I say you all “don’t understand”.
I just have one last thing to say and then I am really quite done on this subject!
One persons study on how many white people are raciest is voided because it was just one persons opinion.
Blacks where conditioned for 500 years to hate white people so don’t tell me that the racism is not equal to our own.
The fact that you think that a white person has never been denied a job, entrance to collage, housing, loans, ext. means you are in complete denial! It may not happen every day because as you said most of America is still white but I personally know people who have had things like this happen. SO YES IT DOES EXIST!
I know that there are raciest white people I am not denying that. I just believe that they are more rare than what you believe.
Melanie, you are saying you know a white person who was denied a job , education, housing, or a loan because a BLACK PERSON LOOKED AT THEIR SKIN COLOR AND DECIDED TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THEM? I have never heard of such! So, if you do know of this, tell that person I apologize, but respectfully it is a piece a sand in the Sahara desert compared to how many times it has happened to black people in the last 50 years. I am confident you CAN’t believe that these are equal.
Tim Wise is not just one person giving you his opinion. He is an expert on the subject and has 20 years of study on it. He is not just giving opinion. He gives facts that are verifiable. In addition there are at least 20 other experts on the subject who agree with him. But, I thought it necessary to give you the foremost expert who is white as so not to draw a conclusion that the source was just biased because of his color.
Melanie, I respect your belief, but please understand I have nothing to gain by exaggerating how many racists there are in this country. lol I am just going on what the evidence says. Thanks for the discussion. Take Care.
There was no such thing as black slavery either, yet you blacks all claim this myth to be true.
Lol.
it’s about time you lot got over slavery, don’t you think? E evil whiteys have spent the last century giving you reparations and priority to make up for something only a handful of white elites were responsible for. Go to the middle east and ask them for compensation for your slavery, you won’t get a single cent, and the odds are, they will execute on the spot for even daring to make such demand. You blacks don’t know how good you have it in the western world, sadly, most of you seem determined to turn this country into a third world hellhole like you beloved africa.
The last century? Civil rights act is less than 50 years old, which is why people like you still exist. In another 100 years, racist white supremacists will be almost extinct. Almost.
Yes but the civil war happened in 1865. That’s well over a century ago since slavery was abolished, and yet the black community is still eaten up about it. The reason white people will be extinct, as you are obviously happy about, is because of white genocide taking place across the west, the white genocide encouraged and aided by the liberal politicians. As I’m sure you are aware, in many areas across america, the white is already extinct. You seem more than happy with this genocide. I bet if the blacks were undergoing the same genocide in africa by evil whitey, you’d be shouting from the rafters about it, though.
There is NO State in America where white people are extinct. The crap that you all believe is AMAZING.
But, your paranoia about white genocide is just because your entire self-esteem is wrapped up in you mistakenly believe you are better than other races because of your skin color.
If it were possible for whites to procreate with blacks and have us disappear…I would have no problem with it because then you would have this deluded and misguided justification for hating people based on skin color. It is you irrational fear that motivates you. Don’t pretend that everyone is as irrational or cowardly.
Change the subject, you are intellectually deficient to discus this with me.
LMAOOOOOO…..you barely graduated from high school! You haven’t stated ONE FACT that is relevant to the discussion, yet you are an intellectual. Stop that madness. There has NEVER been a “true” intellectual person who was a racist. If they were racist it was ONLY because they WEREN’T intellectual at all…they were emotional and made decisions based on emotion, not facts.
How do you know what I have and haven’t done? Are you clairvoyant?
I can tell by your responses here and the lies you believe.
“Saying it to your faces” … my words are a license for your real physical violence. It’s a shame. There might be a peaceful resolution and understanding. I have no ill will to anybody. I just wish that black people depended on merit alone to be accepted, not force of state. (That probably has something to do with the whole tipping mystique.) Politics just doesn’t allow it. You’d have to have some kind of freedom of speech protection … but words would fail you, you’d get frustrated, start breathing hard through your teeth, your violence, my fault.
That’s a pretty good list of entertainers, AA hires and parasites … put them on an island and we could call it Haiti.
Not better. Different.
Experience. I’ve been in Atlanta, Birmingham, Memphis, Baltimore, … It’s one hell of a losing streak. It could be coincidence.
Bob, of course you all are different. It is the reason you all hypocritically hate poor black people but have no such feelings about poor white people who are just as bad on education. Since there are 14 MILLION more poor white people than black people, they should probably be your focus. Instead, the poor black people are your focus simply because they have a different color skin and you can prematurely judge black people by their skin but you can’t do that with people of your own race…smh
I don’t even know any poor black people, let alone hate them. The ones I do know are the highly skilled minority that could have achieved on merit and the ones receiving similar pay without the skill requirement. It can be done. It’s just not common among blacks thus Detroit sinks.
There should be more poor white people, vastly more as the percentages dictate … at least in the US.
So the 76% of us who have succeeded means success among black people is “not common”?
Success on merit is rare as it is not required in most fields for protected groups.
The NBA has no need of AA because blacks succeed on merit. I do not say this to demean you but to recognize your group’s aptitude. Some races are prone to swim, make them the lifeguards. Use what God gave you.
Until you do, the legitimately brilliant brain surgeon will never be given due credit. You’re the ones making him look bad by insisting that blacks have a different, lowered standard.
When I was a kid, I set the difficulty of the video games to the high level. When I could beat it that way, I could beat anybody. Eventually you have to get off the kiddie level to be taken seriously. A lot of black people will go down in flames this way but the few (or many) that don’t would get the respect they keep trying to sue people for.
Your logic is simply not logical. Your assumption that most black people have succeeded because of AA would only be valid if you also believed that most white people have succeeded because of nepotism, the good ole boy network, and racial prejudice against everyone who is not white. Is this what you believe? Well guess what , there have been studies that show that just having a BLACK SOUNDING NAME on a resume means a person is half as likely to get an interview.
Here is another problem with your theory. There are 2 million black owned businesses. Surely you don’t think they get loans because of AA right? In fact, blacks with identical credit scores get loans at a lower rate! Nobody promotes black people to upper management— vice president or higher– of their companies because of AA. There are thousands of them. Even in your example of the surgeon, AA doesn’t fake SAT/ACT scores, MCAT scores, or GPA’s. AA doesn’t overlook surgeons who are killing people. People don’t return to black mechanics, plumbers, AC techs, roofers, locksmiths, hair dressers, nail techs, barbers or the other hundreds of service oriented professions out there just because of AA.
All AA does is give minorities access to opportunities that they would otherwise not have because of the nepotism and racial prejudice that sill exists in this country. After all, Bush got into an Ivy league school with a C average and a terrible SAT score just because of who his father was. Yet you don’t challenge the entire white race because of the “privilege” many many whites are given…do you?
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The 76% who have succeeded
in criminality.
South Africa is the only former nuclear power. They may have been stupid but they weren’t crazy.
How about one you’d leave a white country to live in, any white country?
I would live in South Africa, Morocco, Liberia, Tanzania , or Nigeria. I would live in Sweden, Germany (where 2 of my cousins live and I have visited), or Canada because those 3 countries treat all cultures with respect and don’t have the racist views that American white people like you have.
… and black people cling to.
Cling to how?
The direction of migration is always from dark to light.
Should we just ignore when we get treated like second class citizens just because of the color of our skin?
Your a second class citizen because typical of most black people when forced to play on a level playing field…..
YOU SIMPLY DON’T MEASURE UP.
First of all it is “You’re or You are” not “Your” smart guy! lol. Secondly, the only Truly level playing fields in this country are THE PLAYING FIELDS i.e. sports. Please tell me you don’t believe we don’t measure up in sports.
You should change. Japanese people were kind of looked down on in the past. A “made in Japan” label meant POS. They didn’t speak English and didn’t demand others speak Japanese. They were literally “the enemy”. They adapted, persevered and overcame. The same could be said of Koreans, Chinese, Irish, Polish et al. Not black Africans.
LOL…are you serious? We have overcome dude! We were SLAVES for 400 years. We were treated like less than human for 100 years after that. In less than 3 generations we now have a buying power of 900 billion dollars. That would make us the 16th largest economy in the world if we were our own country. BTW that is almost double the buying power of Hispanic Americans and all Asian Americans COMBINED. So, although we have a long way to go, the MAJORITY of us are successful. Some white people just don’t want that to be the truth, but then don’t want to accept any responsibility in a system that tries to keep black people down,. But,the system can only succeed in keeping about 24% of us in poverty. That will be down to 19% by 2016.
Jewish people are a true numerical minority everywhere in the world, except Israel. They are almost universally despised by 99% of the world. They get hired. Their businesses have clients. They are wanted because they have skills. You have to have a law to get people to “freely choose” black or there wouldn’t be AA.
” … But,the system can only succeed in keeping about 24% of us in poverty….”
Black people in Rhodesia used to think that way. Things did change. Then they got hungry. You just can’t fix black.
Right dude, you can’t HIDE in plain sight when you are black. Jews can hide. They get hired and you don’t even know they are Jews. Here is the other difference, smart guy…JEWS ARE WHITE!!!!! lol. You are really not that bright huh? I’m cracking up over here. In addition, Jews got reparations!! The equivalent amount of money for us in today’s terms would be over 200k per black person in this country. If you gave each of us over 200k (like the Jews got) , we would very soon control as many resources as they do.
At least be brave enough to just come out and say….”I am a racist and proud of it”. Come on dude…u can do it!
You were enslaved by other blacks. The white man free’d you from your burden. We even went to war with our brothers and sisters so that you could be free. And what thanks do we get?
Well book yourself a one way.
Only successful because of white intervention.
Pleae put down the crack pipe retard
Lol…a little emotional huh? You are not even intelligent enough to insult me. Please stop trying…smh.
he won the lottery when he was born
took his mothers white breast to his tongue
trained like dogs, color and smell
walks by me to get to him
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do no wrong, so clean cut…
dirty his hands, it comes right off
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jesus greets me…looks just like me…
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dirty his hands, it comes right off
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all my pieces set me free…human devices set me free…
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Name one.
I have been through this already on this page…lol. After I name the countries, you google them and try to see the problems they have. Then you offer those problems in a disparaging manner to try to indicate that the countries are not successful. Well, let me cut your hypocrisy off at that pass. Problems or turmoil in countries do not mean they are unsuccessful. If that were the case, the U.S. would be unsuccessful.
But, just for giggles, South Africa, Nigeria, and Morocco.
Yes, the entire continent is a barbaric hell hole.
READ:
“Life at the Bottom”
by Theodore Dalrymple (Author)
http://www.amazon.com/Life-at-Bottom-Theodore-Dalrymple/dp/B0077M6P58/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1373299379&sr=8-3&keywords=dalrymple+life+at+the+bottom
You’ll see all of this that you describe is cultural, not genetic, not racial. It is cultural, with a large segment of blame falling on government safety nets for encouraging laziness. Why do I say this? Because in Britain they have the same problem, but not with blacks… with WHITES.
Really? I say this problem stems from cultural influences and bad leaders rather than race and I get voted down? I’d rather you people voting me down trolled me than do that. If you haven’t read Theodore’s book, I encourage you to. If you can find the same behavior described by this teacher in other races from different cultures, then how is the race argument valid?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eipUZfpjD-Y
honestly i feel, once slavery was over if whites would’ve left Blacks alone and not destroyed everything they built for their selves (Towns, Businesses, school, etc.)in this country and Blacks never would’ve integrated with whites Blacks would have been well off then Blacks are today. Also black slavery is the most inhuman act that has been committed in the history of known civilization since the Holocaust. Blacks have been conditioned over time to be who they are today. stripped of their history and culture and lied too and forced feed christianity to thinking that “God” is white and told the reason they had to be slaves is because it’s in a book they couldn’t read or understand for there self. Then destroy the parents minds of the children you speak of in this essay with drugs, money, guns which we don’t own any manufacturing of.
Both Whites and Blacks pushed for full societal integration after slavery. If Whites had “left Blacks alone” after slavery, you would have had hundreds of thousands of penniless, illiterate, low-skilled newly-freed slaves halfway across the world from their point of origin. How do you think that would have panned out? Slow down and actually think about it.
So black slavery was the most “inhuman act since the holocaust”? Considering that the holocaust occurred AFTER black slavery and that millions of whites have also suffered in slavery in Europe and the New World, you should probably update your education before broadcasting your ignorance so proudly.
Most of the slaves were enslaved and sold by Blacks originally. If not sold to Whites or Arabs they would have been slaves in African villages. Yet slavery is the fault of Whites.
Nonsense! So, by your reasoning most blacks in Africa are slaves now! lol Get a grip.
You didn’t read what I said correctly. I just said that the majority of slaves were enslaved by blacks in Africa.
What makes you think he can read? Even if what you wrote was NOT in cursive…
Not true, but I understand what you are saying. You believe a myth.
White people bought, sold, traded, raped, killed … (fill in the blank) slaves BUT they ended it. Some died to stop it.
Black people bought, sold, traded, raped, killed … (fill in the blank) slaves and kept on doing it with or without white people. I wish I could stop it in Africa but there just aren’t enough of you know who to do it. The black people of Africa are just unwilling or unable. It really doesn’t matter which. Sorry.
Do you also believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny?
Until you accept your defects, you can never fix them. I’m sincerely sorry, my friend. Black people will continue to be rejected and never be able to do anything about it but breathe heavily through their teeth.
Meanwhile, all kinds of people will try and move into my neighborhood and country. It must be the racism that they crave.
I agree 100% Many white people (only white Americans) will never accept us. That is great! It would be tantamount to us wanting to be accepted by the devil. Why would we want that? For the “good and decent” white people whom I love and who love me , I am already accepted. That is enough for me. I will be sure to let my white neighbors know that they shouldn’t accept me and should proceed to try to get me out of the neighborhood…lol. Wait, my community is to diverse with these 2 mixed couples (black husbands – white wives), Panamanians, Chinese, many black families, and many white families. Sorry dude…lol.
Andre,
I get it, your black and so automatically you believe that only white people could be so cruel as to buy and sell slaves.
But if you could please explain to me HOW you don’t believe that black people SOLD their own people into slavery. And HOW you don’t believe that it still goes on in Africa today.
Do you read about the SH!T that goes on over there? Black people fighting, raping, killing, and yes ENSLAVING young men. Forcing them to fight for them. Getting them hooked on drugs. Killing their families. This sir is SLAVERY!
Melanie, you are late to the party…lol. First, there is nothing you all can teach me about slavery. I have and entire year of study on the subject. I don’t just accept the propaganda given by white people in order to diminish or downplay the role that white people had in the “Transatlantic” slave trade. This slave TRADE (which means Africans ARE CULPABLE ALSO) is the worst atrocity in human history. Portuguese, Spanish, Arab, European, and yes Africans were involved. Here is the NONSENSE that you all believe, that NOONE else except British people believe in this world. Africans JUST LIKE EUROPEANS AND ASIANS took there own people who they conquered in war as slaves and indentured servants. However, Africans did not spread lies that Africans are not humans. Africans did not whip their slaves to death to instill fear. Africans did not chop off slaves feet. Africans did not hate other Africans JUST because of the color of their skin. Africans did not benefit from 400 years of free labor and then not even consider those who performed the labor to be “American”. Africans did not make Jim Crow laws to keep Africans separate from other Africans, and Africans did not create a climate so riddled with hate and fear that 150 years after slavery that 30% this country still hates black people JUST BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF OUR SKIN.
Yes war torn African countries steal, abuse, and indoctrinate young boys for military purposes. But, if you consider that the same as the slavery that went on here in the U.S., you too must believe in the Easter bunny.
1 whole year lol.
“Africans JUST LIKE EUROPEANS AND ASIANS took there own people who they conquered in war as slaves and indentured servants.”
Africans had there own slaves and indentured servants. Hmmm. But I am sure they loved their slaves and didn’t keep them separate and everyone was treated with compassion. I am sure they didn’t profit from them either. Because only the British and Americans would treat slaves with horrific cruelty.
30% of this country still hates black people…..that number comes from……?
I think this is what you are looking for:
WHITE PEOPLE ENSLAVED THE BLACK RACE!
But this is what you don’t want to care about or hear:
WHITE PEOPLE ENDED SLAVERY!
So there I took responsibility for slavery but I am also going to take responsibility for ending it!
Melanie, the Portuguese and other southern European countries, and Most of South American countries ended slavery before the British and English. The only people to have slavery after Britain and U.S. are the Arabs, and some African countries. White people were NOT responsible for the world wide ending of slavery. Don’t delude yourself. White people were some of the LAST people to end it and who else could end British and American slavery BUT WHITE PEOPLE? LOL. The slaves were supposed to end it? Get out of here.
As for how slaves were treated, America, Britain, and the West Indies treated slaves worse than anyone in the world. But, again…for about the 4th time… We do not want you to feel guilty or accept responsibility for the sins of your fathers. We just want you all to UNDERSTAND AND NOT DEMONIZE US because Jim Crow is less than 2 generations away. My father experienced it. We don’t want you all to deny that slavery and Jim Crow had a PROFOUND effect on the mental health of an entire race of people. Instead, those who still struggle from this cycle of mental dysfunction are looked upon as scum. Those of us who point out that racism still exists are demonized by people who didn’t like us in the first place. So, you taking responsibility for ending slavery means nothing if you still judge black people by the color of our skin. Now, this may not be you personally, but I am positive you know that there are plenty white people who do. And, until you all end this prejudice, this country will continue to be less than its best because we are divided.
Up until some elite whites in Britain started spouting off the evils of slavery in the late 1600’s nobody on the entire planet had any moral quams about slavery. It was practiced by everybody. Eventually those elites came to power in Britain and because the British Empire encompassed 1/4th the people and landmass of the planet in addition to controlling most the shipping routes they were able to go about eradicating it most places. However slavery was still practiced in parts of Asian and Africa until the mid 1900’s and unofficially continues to this day.
What is your point captain obvious?
Apparently above you. Whites first made slavery immoral, then they ended slavery and forced the non-whites to end it too. How is that not taking responsibility for it.
You all deny that you had any role in it first of all. Then you deny that the role it played in African-Americans condition in this country when you all still hate us JUST BECAUSE WE WANTED TO BE FREE. You make Nazi’s take responsibility for the Holocaust but never take responsibility for the 10 TIMES as many Africans that you killed and destroyed through systematic racism, degradation, a rape of self esteem for 400 years. And if you all could make us slaves again here in the states 35% of you would still vote for it!
Historically speaking nobody denies whites had a role in slavery. They will deny that whites were uniquely to blame for slavery. And they also find the idea that they personally are somehow to blame for it foolish because
1) They don’t personally owns slaves
2) it is highly unlikely that their family tree contains somebody that owned a slave seeing as how that was reserved for the historical equivalent of millionaires and billionaires
3) Odds are good their family wasn’t even in the South let alone oppressing African Americans
4) Some even worked to end slavery and discrimination
As for the Nazis, white people don’t make Nazis take responsibility for the Holocaust, history does that. Nearly everybody stopped hunting down and killing Nazis over the Holocaust years ago and if there are any Nazis left to actually take responsibility for it they have one foot in the grave anyway.
Its curious that you think 35% of us would vote to enslave African Americans. I presume you are just saying that for some sort of dramatic effect. I would be curious about your justification for it? Also, how many African Americans do you think would vote to go South Africa on white america if the African Americans controlled the government?
Noone, least of African-Americans says that white people are uniquely to blame for the slave TRADE. What we are saying is IN AMERICA white people are WHOLELLY and Fully to blame for slavery. In addition they perpetuated lies, misinformation, half truths, and indoctrination of many generations that led to SYSTEMATIC RACIST beliefs and attitudes that still remain in play today for many white Americans. We also don’t blame this generation of white people for slavery. What we call attention to is the racist and/or prejudice that many whites are still plagued with as a result of the generational indoctrination that calls for hate of a people who never even asked to be here Although we had the audacity to want to be free and equal we weren’t considered (and still aren’t). Surely this is obvious by just reading the replies to me on this post.?
Couple of quick points. 1) Slavery was not just in the south. 2)Slaves were not just owned by the rich. Middle class farmers and middle class business men and politicians (black and white) also owned slaves. 3) This is not an indictment of all white people. In fact, it is not even about most white people. This is about the minority group who choose to hold on to the disease of racial animus as if it a fuel that helps them navigate this life.
You are correct about the exaggeration of 35%. Obviously I would have no idea how many would vote to reinstate slavery. But, considering the beliefs of most red states, the extreme hate that some have for black people, and the greed of people who would love free labor I would guess there are more than 20% who would vote for it. How many would you say?
Yes the anonymity on the internet brings out the stupid in people. But there is a big difference between wanting to discriminate against blacks, which *might* be economically in the best interest of a working class white (though not the employer), and enslaving them which if it is economically viable would only be so for the super wealthy and businesses to the detriment of working class whites. Although, I don’t think it would be economically viable because because its cheaper to just pay somebody min. wage than pay for their shelter, food, clothing, basic medical and the staff to shall we say keep them in line.
If I were to hazard a guess at how many whites want to bring back slavery it would probably be somewhere around 1.5%, most of those would be idiotic 18-25 year olds that haven’t grown up yet and are doing it more because they think it would be funny.
So, you don’t think that the vast majority of severe racists who hide their real feelings would vote for reinstating slavery?
Oh and I agree slavery would be a huge detriment to the working class, but the working class republicans are doing most of the bidding for the rich now to their own economic detriment..why would that change?
The democrat party has been a slave to elite interests for the last 40 years, it hasn’t been interested in helping the working class since Kennedy. I guess my question to you then is if both parties are going to screw the working class would you rather have the one that sympathizes with minorities or doesn’t sympathize with minorities. Hence the reason the GOP is labeled the white party.
Your other misconception is that whites in the last 50 years have somehow developed the super human ability to deeply suppress their severe racism letting it fester for years not to be spoken of or acted upon until the time is right. If we had that ability we might actually really have a claim of superiority because it is something that neither Hispanics nor African Americans seem to be able to do. This is what happened.
Gen X and Y are post Civil Rights. Their parents the Boomers and Silents ended Jim Crow. Their grandparents Lost and Greatest who actually were racists in significant numbers are now dead. The number of severe racists are actually quite small. Less than 1 in 100 and that number gets smaller every year as white racists skew toward the geriatric.
I think you would probably be shocked how little whites care about race relative to other minorities. About the only time it bothers whites is when we are living in or near high crime areas and when we are being told that we need to give special favors to ALL minorities, over half of whom immigrated to the US after 1965 because our ancestors were a-holes to some of their ancestors.
Andre, still blaming all the evils of blacks on white slavery. You are typical of the problems mentioned in this article. Stop blaming everyone else for the criminality and lack of intelligence from the blacks as a whole.
I don’t fault you for what you believe. You aren’t intelligent enough to know how you have been manipulated and brainwashed all for the sake of money.
The only sad part is, you will pass this ignorance and hate on to your unintelligent children to perpetuate a system that you don’t even understand yourself. My only hope is that your children get surrounded by more enlightened, christian, and loving people so at some point in their life they can reject such stupidity.
As you blacks will pass your hatred of evil whitey onto your next generation, and so on. In a thousand years from now the black americans will still hold a grudge against evil whitey for something that happened centuries ago, and will still be using that as an excuse to fall on every time they fail in life.
Thanks for making it clear to us, Andre. You can’t solve for x.
“Most Slaves were (blacks)… sold by (other) Blacks” doesn’t say the same thing as “Most blacks were sold as slaves”
A conditional may be true but its converse may be false. Find yourself someone with a college degree and get them to explain that to you. Good luck.
May be true or false doesn’t mean IS true or false. The fact is Conrad’s statement was BS and you are either not bright enough or honest enough to see that. Your racist and hateful opinion of me and other blacks destroy your ability to reason, be objective, or be honest. Why do you advocate white people deny all culpability in the 80 million displaced Africans as if Africans sailed us to this land, shackled us here, raped our women, divided our families, denied us the right to read, whipped us to we died, killed us for wanting to be free, told us we were less than human, and told us that it was God’s will that we were slaves to white people? There is much more, but since you deny that any of this happened on any large scale, it would be a waste of text to continue the list of atrocities heaped on African-Americans. The fact that Africans enslaved Africans, Arabs, and Europeans does not make it “right” and certainly doesn’t absolve any white people of their LARGE part that they played in what they did in the past and definitely not for what racists like yourself do AS WE SPEAK.
Africa is a shithole.
I’m Bi-racial and grew up in an all Black area. My mother refused to send me to the public school in my town for this reason.
Reading this teacher’s experience of Blacks made me cry. I’ve worked with “underprivileged” teens in NYC and had a better experience – but still saw all those things the teacher did. I think the answer is breaking the kids up. If any Black parent wants their kid to have a chance in life they’ll get them out of the Black schools. Period.
My sons graduated from predominately black schools. 3 of the 5 top schools in our city are black schools! The problem is propaganda and priming. You are told a lie, you believe the lie, so anything that is observed is used to justify the lie. Not saying people are evil for believing the lies, just misguided and too emotional.
The author didn’t say that all blacks were like this. He was referring to the vast majority of black kids attending his inner city school.
But it not true. Less the 50% of kids in inner city schools are like this and that means it is impossible for it to be the “vast majority”. Its a minority of the students. You all don’t want to believe that , but it is true.
Where do you get that figure?
So my experience as a bi-racial child in an all Black area are lies? I’ve been jumped, shot at, called zebra etc but you’re saying I’m too emotional over that? I am permanently disfigured from one attack but I’m misguided?
Aren’t you the one spreading propaganda?
Rob, I am sorry for your experience, but your experience is not empirical evidence. It is just your experience. 170 THOUSAND white women have been raped by white men. Why don’t they consider white men the biggest threat to their safety? I have been stopped too many times to count by white cops for NO REASON other than me being black. Why don’t I consider all cops to be racist? My bi-racial friend said he was the most afraid for his life in a white school. I am not saying your experience did not happen, what I am saying is we can’t use our experiences to make sweeping generalizations. And when personal experience does lend itself to generalizations and prejudices its because a person is emotional about the experience and has been PRIMED by misinformation that they heard before the experience.
It’s black “youths” giving them the reason. If they are 6% of the population (not counting women) blacks should make up 6% of the violence. They don’t. They’re the ones making you look bad. I know there’s nothing you can do about it. You are only responsible for you and maybe your children. We don’t have to be blind to reality. It’s not misinformation. It is experience. It’s also a good reason for freedom of association but you keep following us.
It’s almost like living without white people is just too cruel to bear.
“You all deny that you had any role in it first of all. Then you deny that the role it played in African-Americans condition in this country when you all still hate us JUST BECAUSE WE WANTED TO BE FREE. You make Nazi’s take responsibility for the Holocaust but never take responsibility for the 10 TIMES as many Africans that you killed and destroyed through systematic racism, degradation, a rape of self esteem for 400 years. And if you all could make us slaves again here in the states 35% of you would still vote for it!”
” I am not saying your experience did not happen, what I am saying is we can’t use our experiences to make sweeping generalizations. ”
With all due respect, you might make a better argument if you followed your own advice…
I didn’t make a sweeping generalization, with all due respect. I am speaking SPECIFICALLY about people who defend the racial animus that still exists in this country today. If you are not defending it (by suggesting that black people “get over it”) then I am not talking about you. And since when is 35% a sweeping generalization? smh
“You all deny” ummmm… ok that (your words) is NOT a sweeping generalization??? Don’t bother replying, you are playing your own game, and in your mind, you are the winner regardless.
Had to reply, lol. “You all” was not aimed at all white people. If you had followed the entire debate you would have known that. I have said a number of times that “white racists” are the minority in this country. So, if you mean that I make sweeping generalizations about racists…then you may be correct. I need to examine that. But, the actual statements here (not conjecture or assumption) is that MOST (some even said the VAST majority) black people are unsuccessful and a detriment to this country. That is a sweeping generalization! That is not only FALSE, it is ignorant and racist to believe that. Saying most white racists, even though they are the minority deny that racism still exists is not a generalization it is a fact.
Drug dealing and petty crime is not graduating.
Funny guy. Like I said, you may not be evil just because you believe lies (you may be…i’m not sure) but you are terribly misguided and way too emotional.
You say everyone who can see the issue with black culture is emotional. But I tend to think it’s the over emotional blacks that are the misguided.
You tend to think? Funny
Not half as funny as that crap black people refer to as music.
Change the subject because you don’t have an intelligent response. Typical bigot.
Sadly, you have used that response on just about every other post on here. Bigot? learned it from you, my black brethren. Hope you got my cotton in. Or I’ll be raising my whip hand.
I’m shocked that someone as openly racist as this who sees certain shades of students as animals can’t reach them. Shocked I tell you.
I’ll ignore his racism, and go another direction though. I would guess that this guy isn’t much of a teacher to his white students either, despite the fact that he gets to play chess with them and live out egocentric fantasies of being a wise old sage with them. (I’ve learned one of the least helpful traits of a potential teacher/leader is an illusion that they are some sort of Socrates/Mother Theresa who can help or save poor lost souls.)
Why do I doubt he can teach history? Because he doesn’t seem to be a student of history. He could care less WHY any of what he describes is going on. He seems to be content to assume blacks are generally dumb. Seeking out the Bell Curve online specifically, would suggest that he has no concept of his own confirmation bias and assumes no one else does either. Not because there’s a problem with the Bell Curve, (discussion for another time.) but because he seeks out results that confirm his hypotheses rather than those that challenge them. I would suppose he does so to make himself feel better about the fact that he’s a failure at his admittedly difficult job.
Again, he’s not a student of history. At no point in this Neo-Dickensian horror story does he actually attempt to delve into the history of which he claims to be a fan to seek out some pretty obvious answers that might be helpful, both to him, and his unfortunate students.
“The Constitution white!” Umm… it is. It was written by all whites, many of whom owned black slaves. While it was revolutionary in many ways, it let black people down with a sin of omission that sentenced them to hundreds of years of suffering. About 90 years in the bondage of slavery, and then they, and we whites, both would continue to suffer, even to the present day, (including this fella…) as we as a society attempt to recover, and still attempt, from the ramifications of that genocide. Rather than explore this with the students, meeting them where they are, which is always the job of the teacher, he chose to laugh with, and at the dumb black kid. Yes, shocking he can’t reach them.
Shocking that they have a resistance to a history that doesn’t include them. Shocking that a different culture would speak differently, think differently, and hold different values. Shocking that they would struggle in a classroom led by a man who sees color, and difference, and then cannot recognize that there is a uniquely violent and complex history between the white (especially southern white) American and the black American that exists nowhere else in the world. Shocking that they would be constantly bringing up race. They who are reminded of their race when they turn on the television, when they look in the newspaper, or a magazine, when they walk down a street, and it sounds like they’re damn sure reminded when they walk into their history class. Of course race is first on their minds… it’s first on everyone else’s minds when they walk into a room.
Shocking that, as they said, they would be willing to break the law to better themselves. They, raised by people who were raised by people, who were raised by people who were subjugated by the ancestors of the white man at the front of the classroom… to better themselves. Shocking that they would see violence and breeding as cultural currency… they who were bred to be large and powerful, and then forced with violence to serve. Shocking that their families at home are broken, they whose families were broken to suit the needs of their white masters. Shocking that they want to assimilate to their culture and fit in. Those who were raised by those who were told to “keep to their own” and stay out of certain schools, restaurants, and neighborhoods, under penalty of death.
The kids don’t want to learn about Sherman! They don’t want to learn about Beethoven! And the teacher doesn’t see value in the curriculum concerning diversity! Interesting. No one wants to learn about someone who doesn’t look like they do. And don’t tell me one’s more important than the other… I realize that. But why? Why is white history more important? Because one culture subjugated the other. (Another reminder of who you are, kids.) The difference is the kids didn’t ask to be there and haven’t been trained to learn. This guy asked to be there… and has been trained (sounds like poorly) to teach. I’m not saying over-emphasize the diversity or ignore the dominant white history… But your first job in the class room is to prove that what you have to teach is important, to the individual students. What can the drug dealer gain by learning about Sherman? (I can think of some things!) How can a black child gain from the experience of this white culture… it’s successes and failures… and use this knowledge to acquire Lunch! and Breakfast! that is… the tangible desires and needs of the student, and the people they love.
Yes, I would agree with him that the real victims here are those poor white students just trying to learn. Just trying to learn a real perspective on history, and how to think for themselves. History… and the bumbling, fumbling, flawed, but courageous people who have brought it to where we are now. Here, with two separate cultures, who don’t understand each other, side by side, being forced to figure it out together, and one still trying to force the other to walk, talk, think, and breathe the same way… so things will be easier and simpler. They come in each day hoping for a lesson plan that forces them to think, to stretch, and to wrap their brains around some incredibly complex, problematic issues… and every day instead of being taught to think, they have to settle for an exasperated white man who can’t get across to a room full of black kids that his rich, dead, white ancestors were awesome.
Wow indeed.
You can see this response as liberal horse crap if you want. I’ve been in classrooms and residential facilities and the things this guy is saying is true. It’s an accurate description for the most part. But it’s easy to see that black kids scream, shout, dance, listen to rap, are obsessed with money, jewelry, and white girls, and fail at tests. It’s easy to see that they want drugs, don’t have a strong family structure, think constantly about their race, and generally don’t like white people. It’s extremely difficult to try to figure out why on each of these things… and then to assume healthy responsibility for our role in it, and then begin about the business of changing it, starting with yourself, even if it seems like you’re about that business by yourself, asking questions and not accepting the easy answers. That’s difficult. Which may be why the teacher who wrote this has chosen not to.
You seem to have a poor habit of reading your own views into those expressed by others. You also seem to think a teacher’s job is to be a therapist and psychologist. It is not. This second view is so prevalent in your diatribe that I found it unreadable by the fourth paragraph.
Your first sentence is an ad hominem attack along the lines of “I know you are but what am I?” The second and third sentence is incorrect. A teacher, just like a manager, salesperson, or pretty much anyone who works directly with people needs some aspect of working as a psychologist if they are to be at all competent at their job. To suggest that a teacher doesn’t sometimes play these roles shows a fundamental lack of understanding about what it is teachers do. Your fourth sentence is another ad hominem attack about my post not entertaining you enough. All in all an excellent example of the typical internet response.
They pointed out a logical flaw in your argument.
When you said that stealing and dealing drugs allows them to better themselves you made it clear that you’re an idiot.
Personal attacks are the only things that make people prove they are an idiot. He was not saying that it ACTUALLY made them better…but that is what misguided poor black kids THINK will bring them money…and in turn make them better. Not that it’s true…but its a belief. A myth, much like the belief that most inner city black kids drop out of high school.
He said
“Shocking that, as they said, they would be willing to break the law to better themselves.”
His article was about the culture of the inner city blacks. This is their culture. That their ancestors were slaves is no excuse for stealing or breaking the law. They don’t get a get out of jail free card because of it.
I think you misunderstood my point. The students have needs. Needs they think are important, (what I referred to as breakfast and lunch… tangible everyday needs that many of us take for granted, especially as kids. They often don’t have that luxury.) And long term educational needs. Many white and privileged children can connect the two, and understand the need for education. Most black children don’t. They’re not raised with that connection in front of them. They do see everyday that stealing and dealing can help them acquire those things in the short term. Part of the educator’s job is to help debunk that association and show how education leads to long term breakfast and lunch. The terminology “better themselves” is arbitrary, as I was directly responding to the part where black children were asked if they would commit a crime if it benefited them. Hope this helps. I look forward to your thoughts on the rest of my response, as well as your new understanding of this part of it.
The author wrote this article to tell us what black inner city culture was. He didn’t need to find excuses or justifications for it. You may explain how and why this culture exists, but there is no justification for it’s evil.
Teachers can’t raise other people’s children when they fail to do it. In high school the teachers teach hundreds of students everyday. They have time to teach their students, not raise these children.
It’s “You’re,” by the way.
No one goes to work in an inner city school because they are racist. The knowledge that the author shares with us in this article was learned through experience. Did you see the numerous examples that he gave to support his thesis? Anyone who goes to schools with a large percentage of inner city blacks would experience the same thing he did.
Conrad, that is just crap. He had racist views before he went there, so anything he observed he would have used to justify his views.
There is no way for you to know that?
Why would anyone want to teach in an inner city crime unless they were motivated by a desire to do good?
M.O.N.E. Y. Most teachers, just like most cops teach for the check and would quit in a heartbeat if they had the skills, talent, or heart to do something else that made them more money. And that is black or white teachers. in black or white schools.
He must have, it disagrees with Andre Bonds.
No, he ignores facts and cant be objective, just like Bobbala
“*sigh*… again….
” I am not saying your experience did not happen, what I am saying is we can’t use our experiences to make sweeping generalizations. “
As most blacks have preordained racist views about evil whitey slave driver….
BS. We SHOULD hate you all for what you have done to Native Americans and African Americans…but for some odd reason we don’t….well most of us don’t…a few of us do.
It probably has to do with the fact that judging everyone by their skin color is DUMB. Maybe that’s why we don’t hate white people.
Your hate is pretty clear on this board, dude.
You make a lot of irresponsible assumptions about the teacher.
And you place far too much blame on everyone except those responsible for their own failures.
As far as history goes there were 3 times as many whites that entered this country as slaves than blacks.
If you’d actually had read the ENTIRE Constitution you would have noted Thomas Jefferson’s statements on slavery and how it was unwanted but forced on planters by the British.
Culture? They are not Africans and haven’t been for over a century. None of them know anything about African culture. They are Americans and should be assimilated just like every culture that has come here.
You make a lot of excuses for immature,poor and criminal behavior, greed,ignorance and the basic understanding that actions cause consequences .
The majority of slave holders in the USA embraced slavery. They thought that their lives and fortune depended upon it. Why do you think they fought the Civil War?
They foresaw the present state of the Union and wished to escape the police state.
What? assimilated by every other culture? Get out of here! lol. Asians have Chinatowns in many big cities. Hispanics have their own communities with their own stores and businesses. Why do you all have a problem if we have our own things.
Indentured servitude is NOT the same as slavery. Please don’t fool yourself into thinking there was any event in history that can compare to the human carnage of the transatlantic African slave trade.
It happened to black Africans so it had to be the worst beyond compare … they were black. Too bad you couldn’t have been one of the lucky ones resettled in Liberia away from the racism. The transatlantic freedom trade was much more horrible of a fate. Those poor bastards have no white people to live next to. “Free at last, free at last … “
How many riots are there In those communities? What is the homicide rate? How many stories of Asian or Hispanic crowds roaming and attacking people at will? I thought so.
If Whites are so bad, then we should separate. But Blacks will follow us because they need to feed off of us. We don’t need them. We gain nothing from them but pain and poverty. We need a Country of our own again.
Gwynn are you part of the Aryan nation or KKK? And you all shouldn’t have bought and/or stolen 80 million black people for free labor and you wouldn’t have this problem right?
Stolen/sold? You sir are as delusional as they come. The blacks who were “stolen/sold” were given or sold by….other blacks, GASP! Read something, will you? There have been and are more non-blacks indentured, now and historically than there ever were in this country, in fact the Egyptians had how many Jews as slaves?
Get over the past, everyone else has.
Cape, we are talking about THIS COUNTRY and in THIS COUNTRY white people BOUGHT/STOLE 80 million Africans. And up to 50 years ago we were still being lynched and killed for the color of our skin. Now YOU want to send us back to Africa..lol. It is not our fault we are here sir.
Any parent who as other options would pull their kids from that school.
I now understand why so many traditionalists are home schooling in the USA, and why your national education data is so poor.
I taught English at an 99% black school in Jackson, Mississippi for 3 years. I am a bit more optimistic than the author, because just about every kid in my AP Lang. Comp. class got a scholarship and many went to top colleges in the South, but there are some definite problems.
One, the black community (and the fearful-of-being-called-racist white community) are afraid of talking about the root causes: no father in the home (in the white community as well), a life of ‘hustling’ seen as legitimate, and ultimately no responsibility for one’s own actions. One of my students got his girlfriend pregnant, yet still finished college and married his girlfriend. I was extremely proud of him because not only did I know that he understood responsibility, but his newborn sons would come to know it as well.
Two, welfare is a horrible thing and needs to be phased out. This is not racist against blacks because the MAJORITY of welfare recipients are white. I would allow welfare to continue two years (the lifespan of an associates degree) and then cut it off. The other problem is manufacturing/business regulation and restrictions – it forces people of other nationalities to do the work we could be doing.
Third, my brother in law is black. He is an excellent father to my nephew and husband to my sister. I wouldn’t have a different brother-in-law for the world. He grew up with a father and mother. SOCIETY AND ITS ABANDONMENT OF THE FAMILY is what’s killing both black and white families. Young boys grow up without their first coach and young girls without the first man to call them pretty. It should be CRIMINAL.
Finally, who gives a flying f*** about white and black. We are American first and skin color later. I tell my black students that and they look at me like I’m crazy. Then they hear me say it several other times and, because I talk to them as though they should be responsible human beings, they begin to consider it.
A little kindness and some expectation of responsibility do a world of good.
You my friend have it right. You see the truth and you speak for what it is.
All the problems we’re complaining about in the black community aren’t problems… they’re symptoms of a much deeper rooted cause. These behaviors are all downstream of a very different culture with very different values.
The same thing would happen to whites if they had the same culture (which they don’t for the most part but some forces are hell bent on causing that very thing to happen).
People chose their own culture. They can change it if they want.
“They can change it if they want.”
Yes indeed they can. But why should they WANT to do so, since “all cultures are equal” and “Diversity is our Strength“? ESPECIALLY when embracing THAT “culture” gets them preferential treatment in EVERY public sphere?
Not until enough of them experience some of their quaint tribal customs such as “necklacing” are any significant number of them going to want to change.
You should start a website called Lies.com. lol. Which hate group are you apart of again? Aryan Nation or KKK??
This is also true. Just because you are born into a culture doesn’t mean you have to stay.
Regardless of how successful I become, ignorant, misguided, and indoctrinated racists will still think of me as nothing more than a common “Ni***” and that means I can never escape what they consider to be my “culture”
Is it too much to ask that people be judged by the content of their character first!? I sometimes fear that JFK’s dream will never come to fruition.
It is a lot to ask when people would rather be right than objective. I have the same doubt that you have. It used to sadden me, but now I am indifferent to it.
KK, life would be so much better in the world if people didn’t focus on the differences but the similarities. That simply is not the world we live in, however.
I respectfully reject that line of thinking. When has the media told us that WHITE or BLACK or WHATEVER color, we all bleed the same blood, love the same way, and respect many of the same things. Tell the media we don’t think that way!
Why is it that so many forces in society work to separate blacks and whites – as if they are two different animals and not the same homo sapiens? With the huge amount of mixed-race families (mine included) it’s stupid that some political elements see black/white before American.
BTW, the KK4NWA is my amateur radio callsign.
Why do you think Obama said “If I had a son he would look like Trayvon.”? Why was Zimmerman put on trial for murder when the evidence proves his innocence?
Why did the mainstream media lie about this case with a pictured that didn’t show his injuries, a 911 tape that was edited to make him appear to be a racist, use pictured of Trayvon when he was 12?
It was all done for political purposes. They needed blacks to vote 110% for Obama so they made them angry and told them they had their backs.
The Dems did the same thing in the Jim Crow South for the same reason. They preyed on the racism and fears of Southern Whites in order to gain political power. Blacks were the innocent victims.
You can take the Democrats out of the South, but you can’t take the evil out of Democrats.
Conrad, who else do you hate? lol Dems, blacks, jews, gays, Hispanics, and Muslims?? lol You are funny. I wish you could be objective so we could have a real conversation…smh
Where do you get that “hate” from? Progressives hate anyone who opposes them and their destruction of our country.
I do hate progressives the same reason I hate their fellow statists the Communists and Nazis.
You do know founding fathers of the U.S. were PROGRESSIVES right? lol
The founding fathers wrote the constitution to set the rules for how our government functioned. It restricted the power of the government and made individual liberty the basis of our society. The Progressive Fascists are seeking to replace our current government with a socialist style state. Where they control every aspect of society through an all powerful state. This is the antithesis of what our founders created with the Constitution.
Obama rules as a tyrant. He ignores our constitution and laws. Making 4 recess appointmnets when the Senate was not in recess. He stopped enforcement of our immigration laws in violation of his oath of office and the constitution. He decided that he could grant states exemptions to the work requirements for welfare recipiants that was signed in to law by BJ Clinton. These are crimes against the nation and deserve impeachment at the minimum.
Rhetoric, Rhetoric, Right wing BS , and more Rhetoric. You care more about party politics and disliking people because of the color of their skin and disagreeing with you than you do this country. You and those who are brainwashed like you are part of the problem. You want to return us to times when this country was founded. That means going back to slavery, 70% highest tax bracket, wild west attitudes with guns, average life span of 60 years, and suppression of all religions but Christianity. Of course you see why us sane people resist this right?
Oh and the founding fathers made provisions for CHANGING THE CONSTITUION because they KNEW that they wouldn’t get everything right and changes would need to be make as the country PROGRESSED! ..LOL
“. You and those who are brainwashed like you are part of the problem. You want to return us to times when this country was founded. That means going back to slavery, 70% highest tax bracket, wild west attitudes with guns, average life span of 60 years, and suppression of all religions but Christianity. Of course you see why us sane people resist this right?”
rhetoric…. do you understand the word “irony”?
I do, and the fight fire with fire tactic is not a good one , I admit. But, it seemed just what the doctor ordered in this case. Although I exaggerated for dramatic effect, there are plenty of people who want to “return us to better days”. Can you please explain what that means for this country financially and socially? Thanks
So, it is OK that you make the rules of conversation as you go along, but when you are called on it, you change the subject??
It is part of the subject. It is an important part of the conversation because you all are not brave enough to say “exactly” where you stand on racism. So, those of us looking to understand who and what we are dealing with have to ask qualifying questions. If you all could just come out and say “im a racist and proud of it” it would be easier to have a debate. Or you can say, I love black people or at least respect their plight. (Somehow I don’t think you will be saying that..lol) But, either way be CLEAR where you stand and I wont have to has questions, To try to figure it out.
Please show where the word hate is in his post…
The MAJORITY of welfare recipients are white because numerically whites are 70% of the population. The hard cold fact is that disproportionately blacks for generations have been on the dole in much larger numbers than whites.
I’ve read this piece before, and I see from some googling that it has been on the Internet since at least 2009. The attributed author is “Christopher Jackson.” I’d like to know how authentic it really is. Snopes doesn’t seem to know. Does anyone else?
In just 3 panels, this comic strip explains the entire problem:
http://tiny.cc/c1ntzw
I think the racial divide is not about skin color but much more about the culture associated with skin colors. Ever notice that people of different colors interact just fine when they share a similar culture? If you go by pure numbers alone a very good case can be made that the overall black American general culture is currently very self-destructive.
Sammy, how is that possible when 83 percent of all African Americans are productive citizens?
How can they be productive citizens if the majority are on welfare? If 40% of black men are criminals?
Hispanics are the next target for permanent dependency and ignorance. The Democrats realize that the blacks are not increasing in population fast enough and they need a new group to enslave.
Some of this is bogus. I taught in a 90% black school and the experience was sometimes annoying, frustrating, but the kids yelling all at once, dancing in the class and hallways, refusing to learn all across the board, no that did not happen, even in a school with a lax administration. Lots of kids were college oriented and some were serious about work. lots more shucked and jived. Lots of kids worked or hustled after school. Some of what the writer says is true, some is pure BS. It’s true that most of the kids were not interested in anything not pertaining to blacks, From the tone and tenor, this guy sounds like a white supremacist with poor classroom management skills. That seeps out constantly through his words.
Then again, schools vary.
Very much so. Spent three years doing computer maintenance in a local school system – I saw a lot of schools, lot of classrooms. The black schools were mixed – some were almost prison-like in aspect, some were fairly good. ALL schools got the same amount of money per student. The white schools (not segregated, just by population of the area) varied also… but the worst white school wasn’t nearly as bad as the worst black.
But equal money doesn’t equal same results. The focus in the white schools was toward academics, in the black schools it was self-esteem. I saw A+++ work on bulletin boards in schools that would have been D- when I was in high school, full of spelling and grammatical errors.
But in the holy quest to boost self-esteem, anything can be excused.
If only Marcus Garvey had succeeded.
There are a lot of examples in history of a ‘group’ which is basically unassimilated and ‘failing to thrive’.
This example is different in that it is a life style which is subsidized by the government at the same time as it is perpetuated by government policy.
It could be argued that these dysfunctions could Only exist to this degree in a subsidized system. Working to afford life on your own and living like this would not be self perpetuating.
Decades of on-going, failed social programs maintain an ‘intellectual/human capital’ status quo as they cost more tax dollars each year. Add that reality, a subsidized population, locked in place by culture and government programs, to nationally imposed politically correct “givens” which control all public civic, educational and sociological discourse and an impetus for change is nowhere in sight.
Pathologies: You get More of what you Subsidize.
I’m a public reference librarian. You can’t force people to learn. Except by corporal punishment.
Sea change will not take place without a sea of blood to wash away our sins. If you believe otherwise, you are a fool and have little clue about human nature and the history of mankind. When the strong and wise rule again, the trouble described here will be but an interesting chapter in the history of the world. And if you believe I am talking about any of the forms of totalitarianism of the twentieth century, wrong again.
A sea of blood did flow.
It was called the Civil War and 650,000 white people died to free blacks.
Which is why, of course, Blacks in the North were NOT freed until AFTER the war…
Thank you for your bravery in writing this article. Few people are as courageous in writing what they see before their eyes. I feel sad for all the children in your school, black and white. It is unfortunate that our first “black” president has done so little to address the tragic dysfunction of the “culture” you describe. Similarly, I would wish that successful people of color speak out more in favor of bringing black children into “mainstream” culture rather than stressing diversity and the evils of racism, which ironically tend to hurt them by isolating them. One is encouraged by the number of black voices being raised in the public forum on these issues, but it needs to be a groundswell, a movement, to promote not only black scholarship and excellence, but also simple “middle class” virtues such as delayed gratification. Bless you, Mr. Jackson, for your humanity and your perseverance and your honesty.
My wife was the Principal of a mostly black high school in California until she retired.
She was beaten up so many times I lost count. Literally, she was punched and wrestled to the ground. Kicked when she was down. I kept trying to get her to quit, but she was ‘dedicated’. So dedicated that she was almost dead-icated. Being of Swedish ancestry, she has blond hair and a very light complection. It was a love/hate relationship with the students. Her name mostly seemed to be “That white bitch.”
The school district did absolutely nothing to help out, or to remedy the situation. There were never enough cops — the money went instead to providing teacher pay raises. The school itself was every bit as bad as this article’s account. Maybe worse.
The central problem is government schools. Black parents look upon schools as free babysitting services, not understanding that they are paying through their rent, part of which goes to pay the property taxes that fund schools. Since they do not have to write a check every month, they assume that someone else pays for the ‘free’ schools. But the funding comes from them, they just don’t see it.
The only solution as I see it is to have parents pay directly for their childrens’ education. But the Democrat Party would NEVER allow that: they want blacks to stay on the Democrat reservation. If parents had to pay, then they would insist that their kids show some academic results. But as it is, they believe that school is “free”, and so they blame the schools for their kids’ failure.
The true failure is caused directly by the government, and the education agenda is set by the Democrat Party. But just try to make parents pay for their kids’ education. You would never hear the end of the howling.
It is the kids and parents who are being cheated. But I see no alternative that is possible, other than the elimination of government schools. The current system rewards the politicians and the teachers, the schools, and the unions. The kids are such a low priority that they simply don’t matter. It would take a true revolution to break that stranglehold, and I don’t see that happening.
Sorry about your kids. Most of them are going to be lifelong losers as a direct result of the self-serving Democrat Party and their Union parasites.
Word.
Making them pay won’t work. They will just take their children out of school.
My friend taught in all black school.She was a middle aged,white lesbian.
She took beating after beating until they broke her arm in class and then her leg in the hallway.
She quit.
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Maybe I missed it, but after reading all the comments I could read, I did not see a recommendation to fix the problem. No solution. Just statements of “factual” opinions and views. You guys would make good politicians.
A lot of talk, no action.
What’s your idea, then? If there were an easy solution we would be trying it. Ridiculous comment.
Oh, I’ve got a solution, but you’re not going to like it.
Every parent who’s on welfare for more than 12 months (not disability or social security) loses their kids… permanently. No more hand outs- no more kids. Any woman who tests positive for drugs, loses her kids… permanently. And keep going.
Open up adoption to middle class couples who would love to take in and love a baby – any baby. Take away the threat of adopting a kid, getting attached and losing them eight months later because the state decided the mom ‘needed another chance’.
Cut off the idiots and let the next generation be raised by parents who actually love, value and will provide for their children.
That is just not very bright. I don’t expect you to understand. But, let me ask you this, why shouldn’t all embezzlers, Ponzi schemers, lying politicians who take bribes, lobbyists, lying lawyers, corrupt judges, corrupt police, executives of companies who lie about financials, Executives like those of Enron, people who crash the stock market, the Fed Reserve officials, or other white collar criminals lose their kids?
Did anyone say that convicted criminals shouldn’t lose parental rights as well? Heck, who has a problem with that? If there’s a relative who’s capable of supporting the child and is willing to adopt them, they get first dibs. If not, the kids go to willing, sane, non-corrupt, two-parent families who are not criminals or dependents of the state.
Children with screwed up parents should have a chance to get out of it.
I didn’t say criminals. Corrupt Judges, Corrupt Cops, Corrupt Politicians, lobbyists, lying lawyers, corrupt company execs are not prosecuted and therefore are not criminalized. Should these people with the worst morals be allowed to raise their own kids?
So you want to fill the middle classes with abandoned black kids?
What’s actionable? 76% of blacks are raised by single women. There is no accountable nurturing male role model in the house. Add to that the economic disadvantage of that life style. How is that going to get fixed in black culture? Those numbers aren’t that different in Africa.
So, what’s your actionable solution? Perhaps you’d like to share with us.
Another lib who does not understand the word “irony”.
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I wish for the greatest movement of all–that of putting aside ego that wants to keep you in your safe zone and wants to think it’s right, based on no evidence. It’s a strange journey when you can transcend ego and just listen to what you have to do to get to a better place, then do it. I fail a lot. My ego defenses just look different from these students’.
well, at this point in history, blacks are the most racist group around. Obama and the democrat party has done more to tear this country apart than anyone in decades. Whites have moved passed race… look around you, look at the schools in less urban and rural areas –not a whole lot of racial issues going on… but look at the urban and inter-city schools…. violence, crime. etc….. black choose to be uneducated and ignorant… if they don’t want to learn, fine kick them out schools so other students can get an education… If they leave school before graduation, then lose ALL entitlements… the parents lost any entitlements they receive for that child. Also if student quits schools and doesn;t get a diploma … not entitlement ever… no matter age or situation.
Trip, there are 22 known white supremacist groups. The KKK has almost 1 million members/supporters. Please tell me how blacks are the most racist?
I see you must have been absent the day your class learned about “logic.”
Leah, please explain why my statement was illogical. And in poor schools, there are no “logic” classes…lol.
If I have to explain it, you won’t get it…I guess since you never had a class about it, you don’t have to worry about using it, then.
You cited 2 numbers (sort of — many of those “white supremacists groups” have maybe a dozen members — about white people and none about black people and then offer it up as proof that whites are more racist. Absurd.
And you need to stop taking this so personally. No one disputes that there are many nice, educated, middle class black people in this country, or that there are successful black schools and students. The teacher was offering his point of view about his school, and the rest of us got that. Quite a chip on your shoulder, there.
The teacher was racist before he got to the school. That doesn’t mean I have a chip on my shoulder. It means I am calling a spade a spade…pun intended..lol. His point of view is skewed by ignorance. I don’t have a problem with that. I have a problem with otherwise intelligent people condoning such hate. You think I should be ok with it?
And I did give the number of 4….which is the number of black supremacist groups in America. If you think there are more racist black people in this country than racist white people, I have some pet rocks to sell you at a premium. Let’s look at the logic though. Black people make up about 12% of this country. White people make up about 72%. That would mean that even if every single black person in this country were racist (which WE KNOW is not the case), there would still be more racist white people if only 20% of the white people in this country were racist (which we KNOW is higher than that). So, logically speaking, how is it even possible for there to be more racist Black people? Let’s see how logical you are about that.
Oh, and btw way,i took a critical thought/logic class in college. Thanks for your concern though.
Just slightly entertaining to watch those ‘stuck on stupid’ twist themselves into bleeding-heart pretzels.
“if only 20% of the white people in this country were racist (which we KNOW is higher than that)”
Ah you “KNOW” it.
How? Who told you? Al “Freddie’s Fashion Mart” Sharpton?
I have experienced it. The numbers show it. And the responses on here reinforce it.
So why are blacks 35% more likely to commit murder than whites?
And how many militant black gangbanger groups?
They fight each other…why does that bother you?
I don’t want to get caught in the crossfire.
Trip,
I don’t think blacks “choose” to be uneducated and ignorant. But the system is failing them.
They would learn if the parents sided with the teachers. But in reality, the parents almost always take their kid’s side against the teachers and the school system. That is because they see schools and education as something “free”.
But it is not free. The cost is just hidden, because it is paid through property taxes; parents do not have to write a monthly check to buy an education for their children. If they did, they would damn sure insist that their kids learn.
Government schools like things just the way they are. They get paid for every warm seat, on a daily basis. No attendance, no income. So all the kids have to do is show up. Then the money flows in, whether they learn or not. And that is why the troublemakers will never be kicked out for disrupting class. The school district would not get paid, and the money is what government education is all about. The kids are such a low priority that they do not even matter.
The government likes the tribalism that is promoted, from the Prersident on down. There is a very real reason to infuse the idea of “racism” into young minds: it results in a large voting block; it keeps blacks on the Democrat reservation, and it makes for an “us versus them” mentality, which in turn makes the black voting block easy to control — all bad for the country, but good for the Party in power.
The problem is that sooner or later, the party must end. There is not enough money or productive workers to keep the musical chairs going indefinitely. At some point, severe cuts will have to be made. But as usual, “Bush”, or some other perceived enemy will be blamed. But the truth is that today’s kids —and their parents — are being cheated out of an education that is essential to their success in life.
For every LeBron, there are a million kids who will not have the basic skills necessary to hold more than a menial job. Ask a few high school-aged kids to write a check, or to explain the Tenth Amendment, or to tell you what G.W. Carver did to improve the human race. You will see how little our modern government education industry has benefited our young.
My wife taught elementary school in east Los Angeles in the 1960s. Most of the kids were Hispanic but many were black. Almost none were “Anglo” white. These conditions simply did not exist. She quit when our first child was born and then went back about 20 years ago. The changes were astonishing. Teachers had no respect for the kids and would make jokes about them in the teachers’ room. This school was in a better area and the kids were mixed race. What had changed ? Teachers’ unions. The attitude was totally different. The principal had no authority. She quit after a year and went back to banking. These were not mostly black schools but she said, if she were raising our kids again, she would home school them.
Black parents beg for vouchers, at least the ones who care. Obama cancelled them in D.C.
I agree with most of what you have said except … i still strongly believe it’s choice… they choose not to get an education. They choose not to get an education because they don’t care, the government supplies their needs, what do they need an education for. Also partly because they feel that it’s a white education–making it a racial problem. I have had teachers tell me, the black student ask why they don’t study more about blacks…..why can’t they teach about blacks in history more. well, blacks didn’t create or found this nation, that’s why there’s not a lot of blacks in our early history but our schools have work so very hard to make sure they do learn their history.. look at black history month. Our schools have failed all children, I have done extensive research on our education system and is failing our children not just blacks. Our schools are teaching to the lowest common denominator, (usually being blacks) it’s dumb down system.
YOu are right about the financial side of things, if parents had to actually truly for their kids education things might be different. I paid to educate my kids twice, once through my taxes, and then through tuition for homeschooling. So yes, I made sure my kids did well in school we were paying for it twice….
Maybe having parents pay for their kids education might help kids to do better in school, — use education tax credits.
Sure seems that most Asian kids from similar situations don’t chimp out. But then that is just an “inconvenient truth”.
matism,
Can you not find a better term than “chimp out”?
That term seems to summarize the situation quite accurately.
Chimp out describes it perfectly.
Truly the observations of someone with a bloodline tracing back to the bowels of slavery. Maybe he should write about how his ancestors stole from another country and stole the land on which we now stand. I expect no less from their cowardly pack. Ignorance cares not to do the research or step outside of their own school to see the legions of young African-Americans with an education that would put his to shame. Devilish kin of the plantation goons. You should be ashamed of yourself. Why would you and your dark history identify with this? Shameful! …
RE: Maybe he should write about how his ancestors stole from another country and stole the land on which we now stand.
That is a sleight of hand argument. People throughout history have taken lands from each other by all means possible. Even ‘native’ peoples’ ancestors travelled to the lands later lost in history. Regarding slavery, all is evil and no race is pure from selling their own or other race into slavery. Not all white Americans even had ancestors living in America during slavery days, nor were all white Americans slaveowners. Those who accuse with a broad brush deserve no more consideration than those they want to attack.
Who sold the blacks to the slave ships? Does anyone think that a few white guys with guns against tens of thousands of natives was a sustainable business model? It was only in the 19th C. that Europe colonized Africa and the slaver trade had been going on for four centuries before that with the Europeans (and longer with the Arabs). Africans sold Africans and Europeans bought what was on sale.
Truly the observations of someone with a bloodline tracing back to the bowels of slavery. Maybe he should write about how his ancestors stole from another country and stole the land on which we now stand. I expect no less from their cowardly pack. Ignorance cares not to do the research or step outside of their own school to see the legions of young African-Americans with an education that would put his to shame. Devilish kin of the plantation goons. You should be ashamed of yourself. Why would you and your dark history identify with this? Shameful!
I have had children tell me to my face as they struggled with an assignment. “I cain’t do dis,” Mr. Jackson. “I black.” The liberal program is a complete success. Mindless automatons to vote and murder and abort themselves out of existence. All courtesy of the welfare state that destroyed any need to involved in the larger community. One doesn’t need to interact with community when one doesn’t need a job. Waiting for a check is a solitary occupation. Or, as Lyndon Johnson said upon passing the “War on Poverty”: “I’ll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” – Lyndon B. Johnson A complete success, the price be damned.
Phelony, so you complete dismiss the racism, prejudice, and inequality that still exists in this country, even when you yourself are racist?
Read the article again
I’m confused about this website’s agenda, as I can discern that it is run by black folk. I am a little concerned that you’re running this obviously farcical story bashing poor black children that seems to be believable to your white readers. Now, are you simply attempting to get more white patrons by running such an inflammatory article? As a black man, who resides in Los Angeles, I’ve been surrounded by every race of people imaginable, especially black folk. I’ve dealt with every social economic level of black folk, and I, of course, do have concerns about black children in the inner city, as I know the playing field is certainly not level, but I’ve never witnessed the sort of colorful backward black students he describes. This individual’s intelligence level is in question, as I can discern extreme hatred, which gives me plenty reason to question the motives of this individual. I cannot take with any credibility this essay, as I see an agenda to fabricate and embellish, not only for shock value, but to mislead and prejudice. Poor blacks and poor whites were the unwitting victims of Irish immigrants from years past who brought their drunkenness, their rowdiness, their poor command for the English language, etc. with them. Their influence was so great in their respective communities amongst slaves, indentured servants, the uneducated in general, many of their traits are still being carried over in these communities, and migrated to other parts of the nation via those who were influenced by their culture.
Black folks were brought to this country, enslaved, then freed and told to make their way, and they have for the most part. Unfortunately, many still suffer from the long effects of slavery and the poverty that ensued. Black folk actually underwent a renaissance of sorts in this country as they entered into education feet first, and thrived in this nation through the early part of the last century, but the powers-that-be installed obstacles like Jim Crow, welfare, brutal policing, integration (the single biggest destroyer of the black community, as it encouraged well-to-do blacks to abandon their old communities), drugs, an unjust justice system, etc. to undermine black growth, and as a result, many were left behind.
Now, let’s not get me started about obesity. Go back and watch old ‘Soul Train’ episodes and you will find super skinny, super healthy black folk, but some sort of agenda was launched on our community that has added an insidious form of obesity and bad health onto the black community. Most poor black communities are inundated with cheap fast food, which are full of GMO’d additives (i.e., soy, canola, MSG, high fructose corn syrup, etc). These anti-life ingredients are killing us off, making us fatter, and making us susceptible to a host of diseases.
Food is so discounted in the behavior of people, but it is a larger factor than the average Joe will ever know. Unfortunately, minority communities are being attacked by these evil fast food businesses and food manufacturers.
Most peoples of the world who come here to reside bring their food and culture with them, which serves their sense of well-being, and health.
Black folk, being ripped away from their native lands, don’t have such resources. We were stuck with the slave master’s scraps, which quite a few of us still indulge.
Fortunately, the educated are divesting from these dangerous cultural things, and are making strides, but many have been left behind.
This country is good at blaming the victim, when they should at least understand.
More sorry well typed and thought out excuses I didn’t read your post as we have all heard this same tired argument over and over and over and over and over and over again.
Black People you own your problems solve them yourselves
the rest of america which is every other race that has assimilated
and made something out of the opportunities given them.
We give you housing,food and money and you just multiply like a disease
iraqi’s and other people who were torn from a hell hole have in 20 years
been able to make something of themselves and the boat people of vietnam
the list goes on.
We don’t want to hear it anymore.
That is why you run from facts. I understand. Brainwashed racists HATE FACTS..lol
Well, you cannot judge this site by this one post. I have been a regular visitor to this blog for the past 5-6 years. Bob often posts controversial articles to stimulate conversations. Occasionally he posts something that attracts the trolls. Apparently hit the troll jackpot with this one. Once a thread has morphed like this it is hard to tell the wackos from the people who are roleplaying just to drive people nuts.
Glad for the emotion but I’m at the F you stage and if I even think a black has the intent of violence to me, out comes Mr Sig .40
And the Democratic Party is very happy with this.Also the Dems see another area were they can enslave another race (Hispanics) and bring them into their
voting family.And the Hipanics as in LA will be pushing Blacks out of neighborhoods taking over,running the City,(LA).
BINGO !!!
For years, I worked as a Correctional Officer. Prior to working corrections, I worked in the heavy construction industry, (carpenter). As a c/o , I had a bit of an “inmate lover jacket” (reputation among my piers). As luck would have it, I got a very good job assignment. For about 4 years I ran a construction crew on my yard. The prison was new and the infrastructure were not complete. My crew had 20 inmates a mix of each race ( a few mix race as well).
This is when I met “Antwion” (black ,22 yrs, married , 2 kids). For reasons that even I can not define, I took a liking to Antwion. I liked Antwion’s attitude. He was not jaded or racist , or buying into the victim mentality . One thing that impressed more than anything else was he was married to the mother of his children. I had a lot of “kids”, inmates I cared about.
My designated tractor operator, Ross was soon to get out. I asked Ross his opinion of Antwion. Ross thought the kid was okay, (Ross is white). When I asked Ross if he was okay with teaching Antwion how to operate the tractor, he stated that the whites may have a problem with the arrangement. I never had a problem with the whites. I had very good relationship with all of the inmates. I had a lot of “kids”.
Antwion was trained (by Ross) and became the designated operator. In no time flat, Antwion was proficient to the max. This kid had found his calling. He was an equipment operator. Equipment operators make very good money..The kind of money you need to make to support a family. I pointed this out to Antwion. Every morning after chow, there was Antwion, wating for the keys to “His tractor”.
One morning, no Antwion. He didn’t show up for work. “Get you ass out of the bed. And get to work, the crew is waiting. I got a lot of static for picking you over some of the others”. Antwion was at the work site in short order. But, something had changed in my normaly happy kid . And, I knew what had changed Antwion. The “BLACKS” had got to him.
Like crabs in a bucket. they will pull you down from you getting out. it sucks man
That’s unfortunate! Sorry to hear that.
Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians but White countries for EVERYBODY?
That’s genocide, White GeNOcide!
Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-White.
This makes me very thankful for my small-town Alabama raising. We had about a 70/30 white/black ratio. For the most part in my high school of over 600 people, there was never any real racial tension. Sure, we had a few that had the above mindset, but the bulk of the student body got along with each other. Excuse the cliche, but we were a family. Most everyone, blacks included, ran in several different cliques. It’s stories like these that almost make we want to ship Birmingham (liberal cesspool that is very slowly building up) up north and secede. The liberals are going to be the death of the U.S.
This is why I home schooled.
This may be true of intercity schools in Chicago or Detroit or maybe NYC but I live in a small Southern town. The black people here don’t even resemble this article. Yeah, is are some trash, white or black!! Are there still racists here. Of course, but not like described in this article. The blacks here are MUCH more racist than most whites BTW and the KKK is alive and well but are not in control, just an embarrassment that won’t go away. How do you undo the damage the racist liberals have caused to the intercity? Now THAT is the million dollar question!!!
Crazy, please outline the damage that liberals did to the inner city. Then please tell us how many people these liberals hung, killed, raped, denied access, demeaned, degraded, and oppressed by treating blacks like they were less than human. Then please tell us why you and others who agree with you STILL consider black people to be second class citizens when 85% of us live above the poverty level??
There were only about 4,000 lynchings in the entire history of lynchings, which spanned about 1910 to 1970 or so. There have been orders of magnitude more whites killed than that by blacks (and abetted by liberals) since the creation of the welfare state, and probably more prior to that.
Whites rape statistically zero blacks each year (less than 10). Blacks rape whites at a rate of about 20,000 per year. Also abetted by liberals.
As for the demeaning, oppressing, and degrading: there’s really no competition. The Demographic Elite race gets preferences for jobs, college admissions, and soon they even get preferences for school discipline based on Executive Order 13621. All courtesy of liberals.
You are out of your mind! It is hard to believe that you so called Ministers dislike black people so much that you will make up lies to support your delusion. It is a shame that people like you call yourselves Christian. I can guarantee that Jesus would not support your views! Why not? Because they are not true. There were 194,270 white victims of rape, 74% of them were raped by people they knew. That means only 26% of them were raped by strangers. Of that 26% more than half were of the same race (not really because they count Hispanics as white), but that means 13% of the rapes were by black men. So, although that is way too high, it seems if white women were being logical they would be infinitely more afraid of the 170,000 white men that raped them, as well as the black men. But, since racism still exists, you all ignore the white men raping white women at 10 times the rate as black men and just focus on the black men only. ..smh That is called right wing ignorance and propaganda .
Ignorance is…
– trying to digress from the obvious point of discussion, to wit, blacks victimize whites, not the other way around. The intraracial crime stats are thus irrelevant in this discussion. I also ignored all the blacks killing and raping blacks, which happens far more often than whites killing or raping whites. Your statistics are wrong in many ways, BTW, including but not limited to lumping Hispanics in with whites in your otherwise-incorrect statistics.
– failure to recognize that, when 12% of the population accounts for 50% of all rapes, that group is disproportionately made up of rapists;
– ignorance. Especially ignorance of who Reverend Bacon was.
Affirmative action? Hard to believe someone earned it for themselves when there’s a whole set of programs to give it to those who aren’t the best qualified but do have the right skin color. You’d also have to believe that many of those are government-created jobs and just another kind of welfare.
Beside the fact that blacks kill far more blacks each year than the number of blacks killed by lynchings in the past 400 years, which doesn’t include things like death from abuse by slave owners (which is minimal because of the value a slave had as property) and the convict-leasing system of the postbellum South (which did kill large numbers of blacks), means that the liberal-created conditions of urban decay have led to more blacks having, indirectly, been killed by the white liberals who spawned the problem than by racists. Considering how blacks treat each other in Africa, you might excuse some whites for believing they’re less than human, as their actions (maimings, mass rapes, murder, cannibalism) seem anything but.
Wow. What a powerful story. And a glimpse of what is really going on in predominately Black schools in the Mobile area. Sad thing is, I suspect it is like this in most predominately Black schools. Large urban areas especially. The waste of humanity through the destruction of human potential going on is incalculable.
I’m from Europe and my school was exactly like this, thanks to mass immigration.
Ross, you have no idea what you are talking about. It is only partly your fault. Misinformation, hate, prejudice, and ignorance run rampant in people who can not be objective. But, I do hold you accountable for the ignorance because it is easy to determine that this propaganda is BS with just a little investigation. I understand, however, that most people would rather hold on to their opinions that really seek truth.
Please indulge me Andre, from what I wrote, highlight the “Misinformation, hate, prejudice, and ignorance” for me.
Ross, my son graduated from a predominately Black school. He was offered several academic scholarships. He accepted one. The Valedictorian is black, even though there are a few Asian, and White students in the school. More than 10 million in scholarship money awarded in a class of less than 300. Only one of the scholarships was athletic. See, the misinformation is that poor performance and bad behavior is relegated to skin color. It is economic at it’s core. If it were just about skin color or race, then the black kids in affluent black communities would perform the same correct? So, because there are preconceived notions about black people based on the actions of a few and the emotional ignorance of people who know very little about the race, people like you read this nonsense in the essay without investigating and assume you have all of the information to make an informed decision about Black People. But the truth is, this lady already disliked black people so any observations she made would have been to justify her racism. It would be the same if a black person disliked white people. When he/she taught at a white school, everything he/she observed would serve to justify the racism that already existed.
How many times have you reposted this?
What in the world did I just read? Surely this teacher must have taught school in the inner city. She has characterized all black people based on the behavior of the teenagers in her classroom with a broad, sweeping paintbrush stroke.
Write an article from your perspective Rainey. I for one would like, no make that, need to hear a more upbeat message. This was a very disheartening read. I pray this is an isolated incident, but if it is indeed in every inner city that is still very tragic! IF this cannot be stopped it will certainly end even more tragically!! I can see a point where black genocide is perpetrated in this country. How else could this end???
** Sigh ** That’s a challenge that is hard to refuse. I’m not a teacher, but I know a few women who are. Also, this article made it sound like civilized, articulate, well-mannered black young people are hard to find and I refuse to believe that when I’ve seen for myself that it is not true.
Then don’t refuse it! 😀
Rainy I am around the poor school systems and the middle class school systems with the same classes taught at each school. The middle class schools have more AP Class attendance then the poor school system. They have higher test scores also,but at the same time they are being taught the same thing. So I investigated further and found out that the scores of the middle class schools were pretty much the same of the poor schools of kids that were bused in to the middle class schools. I was baffled then did some more research. It turned out a father figure was not in the house. The kids that were bused in went back to their environment. Then one wealthy district basically gave the middle finger to the politicians and there was no more busing in. They had to much money. The test scores rose. So what I came to was this. Family and raising children will be the thing. That means one mother and one father with all the same kids. I have no explanation as to why 1+1=2 and math is disproportion among blacks. I have no idea why ADVERB,verb,adjective is disproportion among blacks test wise. Science the same. The only thing I can come up with is that the black community has evolved into single parent homes and no original father figures. she was not saying all blacks are like this. Just strange though that an athlete in football and basketball that realizes they are not going to the pros that is black rarely gets his degree. Something is wrong and it is time to get to the bottom of it. Me i am white so my opinion means nothing to the Black community.
Angus, you hit the nail on the head — the problem that in my view has grown unchecked like cancer, is the absence of fathers in the majority of black families. Its a tragedy that I call one of the most diabolical schemes of our time and no one is paying attention to its far-reaching consequences.
Also, I wouldn’t say your opinion doesn’t mean anything at all. However, young urban black people are very much conditioned not to trust white people, and that starts at home.
Rainey why would Black people trust whites. Do I need to go over the experiments the government has done on Blacks? Granted the young Black community have no idea,but the older Black community is very aware. In other words I have no answers. I have helped Blacks in the past and have no regrets. Nothing ever backfired on me. Now my wife with all the racial tension possibly to happen has told me this “Stay away from my peeeps!” In other words the uneducated and the poor. I take it you have figured out I am in a bi racial marriage. that makes me want to go back and help them through education. My wife grew up in a 3rd world country and she is very wise. Woman they do protect their own. Then worry about the rest.
Rainy..the VAST MAJORITY of black families have fathers. Don’t buy into the nonsense that white people are selling. Just because there are fewer “legally married” black couples does not mean the fathers are absent. Of course the number of absent is higher among black families but it is in exact proportion to the number of POOR families there are in the black community. Check the stats on poor white people and see how close the absent father stats are. It is an economic issue more than a race issue.
Your opinion is not based on all of the facts. Did you research poor white trash test scores? Did you research poor whites drop out rates? Did you research poor whites college attendance? It is obvious that you did not. If you had you would find that the similarities are strikingly similar. It is obvious to people who don’t have a preconceived notion that black ppl are less than human that economics serve as the determining factor in education, behavior, and productivity…not skin color.
Andre Bonds this article was about Blacks not whites. My response to Rainey is my personal experience is all. But hey I am sorry the Author of this article did not include whites,Hispanics and Asians. Andre then the Black community is doing just fine. I will choose to ignore the national test scores,graduation rates and crime stats percentage by Race. But thanks for telling me my opinion is not on facts. Okay fine it is not, It is based off of what I experienced.
Great! You should choose to ignore the national test scores,graduation rates, and crime rates based on scores. You should instead choose to view them by ECONOMIC STATUS and you will find the truth. Your experience is such a small cross-section of the millions of other experiences that in order to be objective you have to get all of the information, not make decisions just based on how you feel. Thanks
It is good to hear that your son graduated with honors. But since your argument focuses on economic status, you didn’t say whether he grew up “poor,” Nevertheless, good for him. You should be proud. Anyway, getting back to your economic status argument as the root cause, although it seems logical, it isn’t the case in the subject essay or anywhere. There are plenty of poor people that grew up and succeeded in life. Blacks included. Condi Rice, Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas for example. I think what the article was addressing is the culture of these kids, AND the inability of the education system to address it. Not their economic status.
Washington DC, has the lowest graduation rate in the country. It is all urban. It ranks in the top two (NYC) on money spent per student. About DC’s graduation rate: “Multi-racial, white and Asian students were again most likely to graduate on time (between 79 and 91 percent of them did in 2012), while African American, Pacific Islander and Hispanic students showed the lowest graduation rates, along with English-learners. The female graduation rate stood above the male graduation rate 68-53.”
It’s not the race that say’s “bidness” instead of “business.” It’s the culture. At least, as a fat white guy, that’s how I see it.
No, my son did not grow up poor. That is exactly my point. Study the graduation rates and test scores in the affluent black communities and you will find the similarities between communities with similar economics. So, if it were just the culture of black kids, wouldn’t the kids in affluent black communities behave and underachieve in the same manner? As for whites and Asians in DC graduating at higher rates, I would be willing to bet their home lives are not as poor as their black peers. How much money the system spends per kid has nothing to do with how poor the kid and his family are. As far as slang and ebonics go, that is just a dislike you all have for individuality. Black kids don’t want to be completely assimilated by a group of people who still consider them inferior and on some level less than human. My son graduated with honors and speaks slang because that is part of his “swag”. I wouldn’t expect you or other white people to understand that. However, why is it ok for Asians, Hispanics, Native Americans, Indians, Middle easterners to have cultures of their own, but not African-Americans? People who speak both ebonics and proper English include Jay Z, P Diddy, Ice Cube, Will Smith, Eminem, Beyoncé, Rhiana, Madonna, Brittney Spears, Usher, Michelle Obama, Jamie Foxx, and the list goes on and on. So, please don’t make the poor assumption that a desire to be different and creative means these black kids are doomed to failure.
I never said and don’t believe that their desire to be different dooms them to failure. Except to the extent that by “different” one means that they refuse to participate in class and learn a subject. When they choose to be different in that way, is when they lose their human potential. Other Blacks that grew up poor yet succeeded are Walter E. Williams, Thomas Sowell, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton. Being poor has less to do with learning than the attitude the kids bring to school. You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink. You can bring a kid to class, but you can’t make him learn. Being hung up on the economic status is not the final answer, or solution. Using your words, “Black kids don’t want to be completely assimilated” is the burden they place on themselves when it means disrupting the class, blowing off assignments, and failing grades. The black kids in school are Americans, just like the other nationalities are Americans. And you’re making a whopper of an accusation to declare that teachers and others in authority are “a group of people who still consider them inferior and on some level less than human.” I don’t buy that excuse because that’s just what it is. An excuse for failure.
You deny that racism still exists in America? You deny this racism doesn’t work its way into ever facet of this American condition? Surely you know racism is still a big part of this country. With that being said, I never made an excuse for anyone, least of all black kids. I am merely saying that the belief that “black kids” attitudes is a cultural problem based solely on the color of their skins. A person can draw that conclusion only if he/she has only a small portion of the information. In actuality economics play a larger part in education and subsequent success than race. This can be easily found out by comparing the drop out rates and test scores of impoverished white kids. The trailer parks and poor white communities are filled with just as many drop outs, drug addicts, single baby mammas, loud, obnoxious, under educated, and unsuccessful people. In contrast, affluent black communities have just as many high achieving black kids who are equal to their white counterparts. When studying this, one can draw the correct conclusion, that although poor black kids need better attitudes toward education, it also effects poor white kids the same way. This means it is more economic than racial.
Sure racism exists. Jessie Sharpton, the whole race industry, I have no doubt that racism still exists. But, I don’t see why that holds back black students, or poor students of any race, from being a benefit to society, instead of a burden on it. I’m old enough to remember school integration and bussing. The conventional wisdom was that integration of the races would “fix” the low-performing (by any measure) youth. Not only has that “government solution” not worked, but there still exists “black communities.” Apparently, Blacks aren’t all that keen on integration.
You said, “So, if it were just the culture of black kids, wouldn’t the kids in affluent black communities behave and underachieve in the same manner?” Good question. Only thing I can say is that you highlighted the problem, maybe w/o realizing it. One is normal people, the other is ghetto. That’s why you don’t see such depravity among affluent blacks. The “coke cages.” The bad behavior “culture” isn’t about skin color. It is the ghetto culture. And by ghetto, I don’t mean blacks. I mean ghetto.
Since your assertion to the problem seems to be primarily economic, what is your solution? “Get a job” perhaps? Learn how to be prompt, honest, and trustworthy perhaps? Assimilate perhaps? Increase welfare so there are no more poor people perhaps?
You also said, in defending blacks for not wanting to assimilate into mainstream society, that they simply want to keep their supposed racial identity, like Asians, Indians, or every other nationality in the U.S.. This so-called racial identity is new to me. New say, within the last 60 years or so. Prior to that, there wasn’t a ghetto culture. That is an aberration to the race, as in not “normal.” A culture of a nationality or, in this case, race, doesn’t get invented or created thousands of years after the race or nationality begins. Does it?
What do you mean that integrating schools has not worked? 76% of blacks live above the poverty line.. This is the highest in the history of this country. Now, I don’t believe it is high enough, there is more that can be done. But you say it is a failing altogether. Isn’t 76% a “C” ?
Just because it is new to you doesn’t mean it is new. Just like you don’t know much about Mexican, other Hispanic, Asian, or Middle Eastern cultures in America, because you are not in the loop and you don’t want to be in the loop, you also don’t know about our culture. Now this commercialized “hip-hop” culture that you call ghetto is not a black only phenomenon even though we created it. In fact 70% of all hip-hop is consumed by white kids. So, just like skate, goth, punk, valley, weed head, drag , hacker, and gaming cultures have been invented in the not so distant past, people who are trying to resist being assimilated come in all shapes, sizes, races, and backgrounds.
As for the solution. No, getting a regular job is not the solution. The solution is financial literacy and economic education such that those who are capable start businesses and reach back to help others start businesses. Living paycheck to paycheck is part of the problem…not the solution.
Thank You for this article. I am a White Male who attended Indianapolis Public Schools until my graduation in 1994. My High School was approximately 65-70% black. Like many young White fools I had grand dream of improving race relations amongst all the peoples comprising the United States. After graduating I had already had a sense of the impossibility of that dream. Black People were difficult but not lost in the mid 90s. Even in the Hip Hop world they could point to positivity, in groups like Public Enemy, and say, LL Cool J. Today they are a people kept alive only by the zombie blood money of the Democratic party. I’m sad to say they are the most self loathsome people on the face of the Earth. And it shows. Someone in the comments section mentioned WWII??? There would be no Tuskegee Airmen today. The Leftist that they vote so devotedly to are killing them. Those same Democrats which filled the ranks of the KKK…..fools.
Shitty parenting. Most kids, regardless of race, need a stable environment and a push. The parenting in the black community is not on par with parenting in the white community. I don’t know if that’s racism, culture, socioeconomic status, a combination of all three, or an entirely different variable. At the end of the day, parents in the black community MUST push their children more or the cycle will never end. In fact, it will continue to get worse.
nigger is as nigger does, who cares? Anyone who has been around the nigger is not surprised about any of this. I was mainly educated in schools that were 95% white but spent some time in a school that was 75% black, the above report is very accurate.
How often do you wear your white sheet to the black schools?
Nowhere near as often as the chimps wear their crap to white schools, bro!
Matism…only because most of your racists are cowards and don’t want people to know you are racists..lol. Why is that? Why lie about being racist Black people can not lie about being black no matter what they wear. Notice Mr. Prince did not answer..typical.
First off- who wrote this- this is a person with higher education- and criticizing high school kids while having such a poorly edited article seems pretty ironic. This person should NEVER be allowed around children or teaching. Fire his sorry butt, quickly.
Wow. Where to start. As a black man, you’d be surprised to find that I don’t fully disagree with the views put forth in the article. I am fully aware of how difficult and demoralizing it is try to help the poorest of the black population. Racism and unequal treatment are the CAUSE of this condition. 400 years of systematic destruction of a population’s cultural, emotional, and intellectual health has decimated the Black population in America. And as the the old saying goes, it takes twice as long to break a bad habit as it took to create it. But even if this assault on Blacks is the cause, it is not and EXCUSE. How can I be upset at this guy’s essay when I witnessed the same behavior in my school years (90’s and 2000’s). This mess goes on and needs to be addressed. The govt has NO idea on how to address it, and though I believe social programs are necessary they in no way should be a long term option for anyone unless severely disabled.
All I know is that this is a sad situation that is a result of the past destructive acts of greater American society. Things are soooo much better now, but the damage has already been done. I agree with the author that it is incumbent on the oppressed to pick themselves up and move forward. This is an all too common sight.
That is a very bleak statement, you almost had me hoping!!
In every school district in America, blacks are under performing compared to whites. How much do you distrust, or dislike whites to blame racism?
This would mean, there are 16.000 school districts where white racism is so common it has the power to prevent blacks from performing well.Mind you, the exact same issues are found in socialist Europe, where I am from.
Ps: Asians perform above average in nearly every school district as well. Its always curious to see Asians performing better under a supposed “system of white privilege” then whites do. My theory is that its bullshit. No other people have done as much to give equal opportunities to people of different ethnicities, and the thanks we get is expressed in daily violent racial attacks which are not even reported because it doesn’t fit the leftist narrative.
It is in the interests of the Progressives to keep blacks disadvantaged, unified, hostile, and voting as a block. So the Cultural Marxists who dominate our entertainment industry glorify gang culture, and the Cultural Marxists who govern our teacher’s unions mandate that teachers must bow and scrape and take abuse in the interest of “respecting ghetto culture,” Did this hopeless, destructive “ghetto culture” even exist before the entertainment industry invented it?
The complete failure of cities like Detroit (ruled by Progressives for 40 or 50 years now,) ought to provide an opening for Republicans to make a move. A recent film about charter schools showed black parents waiting sooo anxiously for the results of a lottery which might allow their children to escape failing Progressive-run schools. Fellow Republicans, those parents are our people! We should claim them.
I think Republicans should go outside the political process. You’ve got to be able to separate the sheep from the goats. Some big donor, like perhaps the Koch brothers, should buy up an entire neighborhood in Detroit (they’re talking about bulldozing the vacant houses anyway) and then hand-pick the blacks to live in it for free, choosing black kids with high IQ’s, good attitudes, and law-abiding non-addicted families. Build a wall around the area to keep the gangs and drugs out, provide them with security guards, and build a private school inside the wall. The school requires good behavior, discipline and high performance. No “respect” for ghetto “culture.” Because they live there for free, you can kick out any family that acquires gang connections or is otherwise disruptive. Once the community is well established, you begin selling the houses to the residents. I’ll bet you’d get good results. White families signing the waiting list to get in!
The Proggies’ big tent is nothing but a big lie. It is a shame to let the worst-behaving blacks hold so many other blacks back. Remember that the whole theory of African Genesis (that the human race originated in Africa) is based on the fact that Africans are the most genetically diverse of all the races. They differ profoundly from each other., What’s more – and this really amazes me – there is a recent study of two tribes of African Bushmen. These two tribes live only 20 miles apart, but genetically they differ from each other more than the average European differs from the average Chinaman. Can you imagine?
Divide and conquer is usually a predatory tactic, but in this case I think it would be a blessing.
Ridiculous. I would be wasting my time by telling you how racist you are. But, let me ask you this. Why not propose your plan on all the poor white neighborhoods since the drop out rates and test scores are almost identical to poor black neighborhoods?
I’m sure most poor whites would be delighted to be given the choice of moving to a restricted community with walls, gates and security guards to keep out the criminal influences. They’d love to be able to choose an orderly and disciplined private school. Why in the world would you oppose giving blacks these options? It is you, Sir, who are the racist.
Awesome way to start a race-based discussion Bob! 184 comments is the most I’ve seen in awhile.
I grew up in San Diego. My parents had enrolled me into the magnet program. So 4-6 grade I got to bus to a Hispanic majority school. There was Mexican gang graffiti everywhere. Since I had a Hispanic sounding name I was pretty ok there. However, from 7-11 grades I got to go school in South East San Diego. These were predominately black schools with next majorities being Hispanic and Pilipino. Whites were at best 3-5%. The Crips and Bloods were always causing trouble. I was able to avoid most conflicts. I got into a few fights now and then. A few dotted eyes or blood noses. I ran track so that helped also (since most of my team-mates were black). In the Magnet program though, even though these programs were held in black or brown schools, the advanced classes had very few blacks or Hispanics. Eventually, I convinced my mother to let me do my senior year at my local high school. It was nice not worrying if a gang fight was going to happen on the way to the buses. It was also interesting that the textbook I had for biology in the 7th grade was the exact same book I got for my 12th grade science class.
The human condition. I don’t know of anyone really speaking about such a thing anymore. We are all supposed to be progressive new age beings with no dislikes, no preconceived notions, but anyone who still thinks for themselves knows this to be untrue if not impossible. The human condition white, black, yellow, purple, whatever, is what drives this whole world and if we spent more time looking at that instead of coming up with excuses for every races actions we would have a much better understanding of each other. Political correctness and the fear of being labeled racist has clouded peoples abilities of all colors to be honest about the situation, therefore making it impossible to bring forth real solutions to the problem. The writer of this article was being honest from his point of view, all of it may not be spot on, but it paints a picture that is very bleak . We can chose to call it racist and ignore it, or we can look at it for what it is and admit that something is very wrong.
Whites folks also have a lot of Drama”, to let it be told, the only one difference between them and us is that they (whites) will hid and keep it in house. “He who is w/o sin cast the first stone.” So, stop it pls!
I’m not white & I’m not black, but what is written here is to illuminate a reality in the Black Community. We can not stop and just not care. If we do, then we are actually being racist by not giving a crap about these kids and this culture in which they suffer through. You of all people should spread the word about what is true and help to change it so that you don’t feel the way you do now in reading what people are saying. I grew up with Black siblings in a white environment but care and love my siblings. I have influenced them not to be “Nigga’s” but “African American”.. meaning there is a categorical difference in the black community that a “Nigga” is an uneducated black individual who cares less about life and could care less about taking yours. An “African American” is a respectable member of society with some form of education that respects life, liberty, and justice for all. My brothers and sisters are “African American”. In our culture (my family’s) we teach our own to be part of society, not an exception to society.
Larry, you are sorely misguided. It is not your fault entirely though.
And Alabama and Florida, in accordance the Obama and Arne Duncan’s Race to the Top agenda through the Common Core initiative, have adopted race based standards. That’s right…Asians and Whites are expected to pass way more of the standards than Blacks and Hispanics simply because of their color. If that’s not a vote of no confidence against individuals AND races, then I don’t know what is.
If that’s not racist, then then I don’t know what is! Good Grief, Charlie Brown!
Taught to be bullies. It starts in the home with your parent’s behaviors. Cognitive behavior.
It starts with their “culture”.
I think the author should ask their self why has their leadership failed. I mean every since the death of M.L.K. and Malcolm X. No one has stepped up. All this author can do is judge. I wonder if the author of the letter is the one of the many that complain that they are over taxed. Trusted me white people are worse I had a high school basketball coach that advocated for oral sex for his basketball during high school basketball (in 96-97) games. So don’t go there white people because white people are the true molesters. My basketball coach wanted to watch teenagers have sex by definition that is a child molester and he was a white coach. There have been black people in Britain, Roman Britain, go to youtube and type in when black people ruled the world. Yes black people see the world through there eyes because white do the same, white people are racist. All test have been tailored to white people you have been trying to do that since the Native Americans day. White people need to get over themselves because you were slaves/serfs in Europe. You had nothing until you learned from black people and asians. White people have no history you can only trace yourselves back to the collapse of the Roman Empire. Your religion, philosophy, education is all from black people, asians, and the middle east. It is only because blacks in america have been cut off from the true history and learn white history, and exactly white the kids get mad in class they don’t want to hear about white history. they don’t have any connection to Marcus Garvey. Plan and simple some white people are racist if blacks are successful they are the exception and if a black is poor it is the norm. you expectation are no better than that of slaver owners and that is why white people are racist. I refute your essay because they’re many successful blacks that come poor neighborhoods but when neighborhoods have poor leadership than that is when education is devalued. How many colleges go to that school to recruit or give speeches? Your essay is no better than Paula Dean’s rhetoric.
Being a black supremacist, and therefore subverting reality to fit your ideology doesn’t help anybody. If anything, i blame people like you for misinforming young blacks, crushing their confidence, and inspiring them to live a life of racial hatred.
Its pathetic to see you accuse whites of racism, while your comment is filled with disparaging arguments about whites, which are actually contradicted by all research I am aware of.
I’m not a black supremacist, and i have not misinformed anyone. white people are the ones that are misinformed about their own history. yes, i can accuse white of racism because it is true, why do you defend yourselves as a whole but get when blacks call you a racist? defend yourself and stop defending the white racist organizations that is why white people get caught in the debates. You are stupid for thinking my comments are disparaging but it is true, look the facts up. My comments are not crushing anyone confidence if anything that all white education is, no black kid or native american wants to hear a white history. I don’t inspire hatred i bring to the light of the other side. white people try to polish their image like the civil war, slave codes, or black codes never happened. I see it from northerners that call it a southern thing and i see southerners lie through there teeth.
You claim white people are inherently inferior, but again you believe this is not racist ^^
You don’t bring anything new to the the light, its simply the left wing narrative pronounced by a simpleton.Unfortunately for you there is no empirical evidence to back it up.
From Western Civilization: Ideas, Politics, & Society-Volume 1 page 225 it states, “Peasants continued to sacrifice their freedom in exchange for protection, or, in some cases, they were too weak to resist the encroachments of local magnates…The serf and his family lived in a dismal, one-room cottage that they shared with chickens and pigs. In the center burned a small fire, the smoke escaping through a hole in the roof. In cold weather when the fire was strong, the room filled with smoke. When it rained, water came through the thatched roof and turned the earthen floor into mud. The odor from animal excrement was ever present.” This was in the 9th and 10th century in Europe. Believe me when i say white people are inferior. Africa had been a thriving continent for many years and in the 9th and 10th century in Africa we had already traveled the Atlantic(without the enslavement of slave traders), participated in commerce with the Middle East, built the pyrimads, and great tribes like the Ashanti tribe. Here is your college education evidence.
“Believe me when
i say white people are inferior”
If this worldview didn’t result in seditious non-sensical political preferences and violence, it would be comical as earlier you denied my allegations of black supremacism. In this you resemble my buddy Andre in this discussion. Your comment proves again, that black supremacist beliefs are nothing but a rambling corollary of leftist narratives.
It is true that around the 9th and 10th centuries Europe was completely ravished, this was due to the constant assaults by the moors, African and Arab slave traders who destroyed our previously prosperous sea trade(see Henri Pirenne).
After these assaults were stopped which are numbered in hundreds of military campaigns,and the African and Arab Muslims continued to raid Europe for nearly a millennium,
Europe started thriving once again.
In Africa, there is no archeological evidence for any such flourishing society, and that is exactly what a critical mind would look for. Else, you could even use novels as primary
evidence, something the left does to claim Native Americans lived in peaceful,serene societies prior to the arrival of Europeans. It would be comical(again)if the academic world would not suffer under the weight of their pseudo intellectual, yet politically secured dribble.
All historical evidence of pre-colonial Africa reflects Africa today, warlike, run by heartless, self-enriching leadership. Even the slave trade seems to be returning, after Europeans had not only abolished it amongst themselves, but generously did so as well amongst those who developed the trade, the Africans and the Arabs.All positive historical evidence of somewhat humane and somewhat advanced societies in Africa can be summed up in two words: extremely limited.
The Egyptian Pharaoh’s where ethnically Caucasian by the way, although I am sure you will accuse those who performed the DNA research of “racism” for finding this fact.
I suggest you go watch Roots now, or any of the other horror stories picturing white men entering Africa to raid black slaves, and make sure to ignore the fact thatwhites only set foot in sub-Saharan Africa when the slave-trade became abolished. Strange isn’t it, why do all these movies portray whites pulling
Africans out of their tents when in fact there were no whites present in black Africawhen the trans-Atlantic routes where still frequented by slave ships.
It seems someone is running a con on you.
Did you know,that African nations which have never been colonized are amongst the worst ,while some of the countries which have been colonized are amongst the strongest
today?
I don’t think someone told you when they were prepping you for a life of victimhood, and you clearly never made the connection that colonialism has only raises the standards of living, while those never colonized are attempting to enter the
global market place without these pre-conditions, a dangerous endeavour indeed.
Europe, by itself, was never proposerous prior to 9th and 10th century because it was under the Roman empire. Egyptians are not caucasians the pyrimads themselves talk about their skin and in the tombs there are hair samples. Examples of African tribes are in Ethiopia, the Dogon tribe, and Niger regions that have wonderful structures in their regions. I don’t know if you are just trying to get attention or if you are really stupid(Martel) but you information is inaccurate. Please how are european serfs that lived with pigs and chickens are going to bring someone to a better society you europeans couldn’t even build a roof for yourself. Martel you should let go of lies and stop your desires of wanting to be black, in a deeper sense you(your kind) are jealous that the Persian empire, Egypt, Kushite Empires, and Zulu nations will forever be more glorious than any european nation. You want to be like us that is why you are trying to fabricate evidence. Like Tupac said “I’m black I ain’t got nothing to worry about.”
This guy sounds like a borderline racist, but he makes truthful and excellent points. Or perhaps I should say, he be racis, but he be sayin’ the truth.
Truth. Not truisms. My daughter’s school was inundated with hordes of “lower class” poorer, “disadvantaged” (undeserved) youth when she was in 7th grade. A few weeks into the new year she came home and asked a series of questions: “why are black kids so loud?” “Why don’t black kids listen?” “Why do black kids get away with fighting in the halls?” And would tell us about how she learned to slink along the walls in the hallway going from class to class so the groups of black kids running full speed wouldn’t knock her over or worse. I would tell her that this was because there just wasn’t enough room in our prisons to house ALL the black people so they would use the schools as a sort of half-way house for a few years until some space opened up. The school got two full-time armed cops stationed there too. I went to an integrated high school myself in the 1970s in Florida and had a similar experience. Except there we had what we half-jokingly called the spring riots. Every year. Rich kids would have their parents pick ’em up to avoid the beat-downs in the parking lot or the bus stop. Smart kids – and teachers – would stay home, the cops would come out in force, there’s be a media black-out, next week it would be business as usual. Black kids in one side of the cafeteria, whites on the other or outside somewhere safer, quieter. My sister had her leg cut open once when some black kid with a razor blade attached to her shoe kicked her in the hallway in passing. Nothing personal, just “kill whitey.” Kind of like what’s happening at Independence Day “Beach Week” all over the nation as large crowds of black people gather to riot, loot, rob, rape, plunder, pillage and do the other things they seem to do best in large groups. This was common. This was predictable. The FBI tells us over 50% of all violent crime in America is black on (black, white, hispanic, other) violence. They’re less than 15% of the population. I am praying fervently that the promises of the New Black Panther party come true. That when George Zimmerman is exonerated, acquitted, the country erupts in overt black on everybody violence. Let’s get this over with once and for all. Bring it.
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I used to hate but now I’m just numb to it. I live in Africa. Every single black is the way this man describes, except for the ghetto-speak. Every single black has the same sense of entitlement. Every single black has the same “whitey owes me” attitude. Every single sub-Saharan black African is missing the neanderthal, or “intelligence”, gene. They are NOT “just like us” and never will be. They are barely human. The sooner we stop being apologists for them, trying to integrate them and feeling guilty over the fact that they lack what it takes to survive in a civilised and order society, the easier our lives will become. I’m surrounded by them, yes – but at least I can ignore them since there’s no such thing as welfare, Obamaphones and EBT over here. Here, you sink or swim. And that’s how it should be anywhere in the world, black or white. A meritocracy. It would soon sort the men from the boys.
As a poor white who grew up in black America I can tell you that many of the comments left on this thread are pure drivel and fantasy-laden, feel good swill.
I’m no longer poor. I do very well for myself despite this so-called cultural handicap. This is why I believe the problem has nothing to do with liberal policies or culture. I think it has everything to do with blood, with intelligence.
As deplorable as my conditions were among blacks, living with them and attending school with them, I realized early on we were different. If it wasn’t the enduring hostility towards me it was my own ability to infer outcome based on empirical data. I could tell they were going to have a bad day when I knew who they were going out with or where they planned to go or what day of the week it was. I avoided lots of problems and perhaps even death through logical deduction.
Let me point out for Susan Connolly that there is a measure of difference between a 50% black school and a 94% black school. You simply cannot compare. As the author has noted a black on their own is not as much a problem as blacks in vast numbers.
The reason is that through lesser intelligence, they depend heavily on the behavior of others around them to come to conclusions. They cannot infer based on empirical data. Instead they look to their left and their right to gauge how others react. For this reason the black mob is a damnable thing. If whites have strength in numbers, blacks have deficiency in numbers as they’d follow one another right off a cliff in absence of having a better answer on hand.
As if they don’t do this now? Look around you. Who praises ‘snitches get stitches’, ‘dey just kids’, ‘dey authentic negro’ like the black does? They don’t just flaunt the handicap they fully endorse it and associate to it.
For a long time now quantified intelligence has been dismissed by the Academic community. They say things like everyone learns different so you can’t design a test around one method of learning. This is a flaw in their understanding of inference. You see, we all have the ability to reach conclusions in different ways. The conclusion is no different though and that is what validates the standardized testing formula. If I know the answer by looking at available choices on a multiple-choice exam, it doesn’t matter how I organized the lesson in my head. Whether I learned from flash cards or from watching a video or a classroom recording makes no difference. The fact is I know the answer and can therefore logically deduce the appropriate answer.
Blacks fail standardized tests for the same reason some atypical non-blacks do. They fail because the lesson never managed to reach their brains (possible) or they fail because they cannot logically deduce the answer from a set of similar but different answers. They cannot apply what they’ve learned. This is an intellectual deficiency. This is blood.
a lazy race bill would be the one that steals people and makes them slaves. and your monkey bill would be in the mirror. here you have a group that has been mis-educated from kindergarden to 12th grade and you expect wonderful things from them under the lies of white supremacy,they know they are being taught bullsh-it that is why they struggle with it and so they rebel against it.
So you agree that the blacks are the core of the problem, since it was THEY who stole people and made them slaves, just as they are doing in the “motherland” these days? Glad to see a chimp with some brains!
It is clear that the author has never stepped foot into a classroom, let alone an inner city one. He plays to every racist stereotype out there and makes some up as he goes along. As someone who has actually spent time in classrooms and schools that have primarily African American students, this is pure bunk.
Maybe they should have been simply left in their native part of the world rather than being abducted, sold, imported, and then expected to work for free. After a couple centuries of this we now have a “problem” of our own making. I had my head in the sand growing up and never realized how bad it was. When George Wallace stood in the school house door, was he trying to make these people more productive members of society?
Abducted and sold by fellow African tribes. You could try and understand history.
I do concur however that expecting them to fit here is trying to push a square through a circular hole.
And yes, it is a product of our own making. I don’t believe in slavery of any people be they black, white or other. I do however think the US government should have followed through by making the Liberia expulsion mandatory, not optional. People are different and those differences sometimes fall down racial lines. Blacks need a black run government in a black run nation. They don’t belong here and we don’t belong there. We are different and we need to respect those differences instead of trying to conquer one another.
Oh please stop with all that africans sold africans bullshit, i come from a family that sold slaves in Nigeria, a black family, we are Igbo and Efik historical slave drivers and conquerers, we sold them into slavery without knowing that europeans were not following the traditional conventions of slavery, chattel slavery was a disgrace and treasonous against the human race.
The Arabs turned black slaves into eunuchs long before Europeans even decided to enter a business agreement with the african and arab slave traders.
The treatment of black slaves was definitely much better under Europeans, and if you actually believed the Igbo gave a damn about what happened to those slaves(they didn’t know different people had different traditions) you are gullible.
Well if you wanted it to be “all hung out” here, it’s definitely happened.
The terms and circumstances suffered or experienced by black Americans is neither unique nor extraordinary in the larger context. There must be a different explanation for this peculiar and progressive outcome.
It would be a mistake to uniquely attribute this dysfunctional behavior to black Americans or black men and women generally. This is not a feature of any particular tribe. It is an outcome of a corrupt philosophy. While a philosophy cannot guarantee an outcome, it does promote its realization. Judge a philosophy, or religion, by the principles it engenders. Judge an individual man or woman by the content of their character and actions.
The civil rights movement, and its various spinoffs, have to be concluded. In their present incarnations they serve to delay integration and manufacture prejudice in succeeding generations. There must be a general and comprehensive recognition of individual dignity.
I have worked alongside a black person who was lazy, ignorant, racist against whites, pig stupid and useless. But he called himself a professional. Most of the other ones I managed or worked with were the same. Not all but at least 90% and I am British by the way.
All of the blacks I have worked with have been extremely poor performers on the job. Habitually late, and prone to temper tantrums over stupid nonsense.
well, blacks do not have the same brains as whites do. Their brains are smaller and either completely lack a prefrontal cortex, or have only a vestige of one. They are not really human. They are not the same SPECIES as humans. They are dumb animals that can not function on their own, They are parasites that live off of white people. They either get AA jobs where white workers do their work, or they get AA jobs where they do stupid human resources and where white people do their work for them, or they get jobs in “gubmint” where they do nothing except show up, but only sometimes, or they live off of welfare. They are a population that only exists because of white people, and the days that white people are going to willingly put up with this are swiftly coming to an end.
I went to a forcibly integrated Portland High School… so… the only thing I can say to this article is… yes.
Y’know, my kids went to (North!) Portland schools back in the 80’s, and they had their eyes opened. One teacher in the Music department made a quite telling comment, that the kids were being taught self-esteem instead of something useful. How right he was then, how right he is today.
When they came back to where we are now, instead of them being the smartest kids on the block they had a heckuva struggle to get back up to (what I consider) a “normal” education level. Again, it opened their eyes as to what the Big City was doing to people… And they will NOT live in the Big City (they’re all grown now…). Period.
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I have a question: Did the whites in Mr. Jackson’s class actually get A’s and B’s, or were they just better students by default? That is, they were “better” because the blacks were awful students so even a C- by a white is streets ahead of anything the black students were capable of.
It isn’t really racism. It’s just what you see as a teacher. You see one group of students intentionally doing nothing and you see another at least trying. You would tend to give somewhat higher grades to those that are trying to learn. The students that don’t even try will get a D- and “pass” their grade because you were told to pass them. They should be getting a Z- for complete lack of effort. But when you see a student try to learn, you say, “That’s B work.” But it’s not. It may only be D work, but by default, this student is trying and is therefore “the good student.”
It’s no reflection on the teacher. It’s just human bias we all possess.
This essay would bring tears to MLK’s eyes because of what today’s black American children have verses what his generation fought for .. It’s a shame black children spoken of in this essay as having no character,free of segregation yet choose to be segregated and the right to be equal but feel their own skin color makes them ignorant by their own admission ..
How did over forty years of having “more rights” than any other race in America resort to this? I do not feel bad for any of them as I have competed for employment but wasn’t chosen and not because I wasn’t qualified but because I wasn’t black..Struggling with my young family wondering where our next meal will come from because I didn’t qualify for food stamps or any assistance for that matter, why? Because I had a income that was a few dollars over the poverty standard .. But even today without fail I can go into any Wal-Mart stand back and watch around the “first ” of every month..I will see a large black or Hispanic family with two shopping carts spilling over the edges with goods..
The first cart loaded with prime cuts of meat name brand not generic products and JUNK FOOD all paid with a EBT card.. The second cart usually gang related NFL jerseys with top of the line latest shoes and other electronic goodies paid for in cash.. I just shake my head ..
Martin Luther King, Jr wrote .this final word of advice I would like to share ,,http://www.progress.org/dividend/cdking.html
All of the problems in the black community can be laid directly at the feet of 50 years of liberal/democrat/socialist policies.
The link is suggestion this because..” Welfare Guaranteed Income” equals ” Socialized Segregation” there is an invisible fence around the Ghetto’s…
Denigrating individual dignity (e.g. “diversity”) was not the solution.
Redistributive change (i.e. involuntary exploitation) or recycled economic stasis was not the solution.
Reactive movements cannot be progressive. They predictably progress to organized, then incorporated and for-profit enterprises. Their business model is by design antithetical to ensuring equal protection in equal measure.
The outcome of “good intentions” was predictably to delay integration. The side-effect of “good intentions” was to sponsor corruption of individuals, communities, institutions, and society. This progressive corruption is not limited to black Americans, but as they were the central feature of PC, they were especially vulnerable to suffer its consequences.
I grew up in Chicago near the projects where there was only a couple of whites in the school, it only takes a few days to hate them monkeys, any ignorant white who says people are all equal ,let them go to school with the ignorant ass monkeys, they will change there opinion quick, wake up white people
What a fecking crock of cat shite! I am Black and I am NOT like this article. Poor low class is poor low class. Ghetto people. I hate this kind of shite.
Ha. The filthy nigger lives in a white man’s country.
I’m not filthy. You dont know me. Canadians come in all colours. I’ll tell you what some of my ancestors would say to someone like you: Пішов на хуй сука! Believe me you deserve it!
Coward doesn’t use a name. I’m neither filthy nor a nigger; you dont get to define me. Canada is a country for ALL people!
As a former Police Officer I can support the many claims made by this writer.. I have had occaision to be in direct contact with many of the same behaviors and commentary by blacks that were stated here. It is so sad that our educational institutions have given way to the fear of lawsuites and the ‘tying of hands” of the individual teachers that dicipline cannot be maintained within the classroom. listen to all the great stories of successful black people who realized that getting an education was the “way out” of the bleak and downward trend of life. Schools need to have dicipline and teachers can only teacher in an environment or calm and respect… not for the person but for what is being offered for personal consumption.
I read thru a lot of the comments, and really am not surprised for people to use this essay to further ‘demean’ the people in the dilemma described. The point is, as one commenter stated… The Communist Divide has commenced..and I will add to that the fact of it starting in 1957. See Abernathy entry i of the Communist speech into the U.S. Congress. Records The blacks have always been a target of communists…and the communists have succeeded. My righteous anger goes towards those Politicians who reap rewards off the failures of the blacks they made promises to but instead enslaved them in another more insidious system of slavery, It is going to take, those from within.. to fight and fight hard… to gain their rightful freedom back in this land of the Free. It will take all of us, when that does happen, to keep the momentum. going. I am usually the eternal optimist, but not by ideology, but from experience of seeing these kinds of issues actually get solved. God Bless us one and All.
THIS—-“My righteous anger goes towards those Politicians who reap rewards off the failures of the blacks they made promises to but instead enslaved them in another more insidious system of slavery” But then I ask…why do they keep voting for them? How do they not see they are being eslaved?
This made me cry. Not because it is hateful, but because it is true.
I grew up in a school district about 50/50 black/white. I never had
any problems with any of my black friends being racist with me until the
last two years of high school. This was during the race riots of the
late 60s/early 70s. Black kids that were supposed to be my friends
turned their backs on me. Even then, I didn’t blame them, but the
agitators that came into the school to stir up trouble.
The rest of my life, I’ve worked at not being resentful or racist.
Until Obama. He and his handlers have turned back the time. We are
now living through the same issues that the race riots of the 60s/70s
brought up. I’m no longer willing to forgive and forget.
Don’t give up. Keep up the good fight. Imagine how it would be if we all just said “Ah, screw it!” and went our own way? Thanks for the effort, but please remember that Christ said to forgive, but not necessarily forget – because if we forget we make the same mistakes, have the same garbage to go through again and again. Don’t give up.
Then Nelson Mandela said it: You must forgive, but we can never forget (or words to that effect to Miriam Makeba).
This is not true where I live. Too many black children fear the wrath of their moms to misbehave. I do not know if it is because of traditionally conservative mayors.
I agree but I already new this,,army 68-70
Thank you for posting this.
At 74, I am an active profesional and also a professor, still teaching, after 43 years in a private college of the first rank. I have also taught at major universities on the East coast.
The experience, recounted above, is sad and chilling beyond remark.
That condition is also the product of a vile cadre of “educators” and politicians that have been eager to debase the young, black and white alike, to maintain their mad, and for want of a better word, Gramscian obsessions, of race, class and gender, the latter being a grammatical term.
For years I have had the luxury of teaching students whose backgrounds vary but wherein the school no particular group has dominated.
Accordingly, I have been able over the years to steer students, less literate but nonetheless bright, to one of two huge Oxford dictionaries hulking nearby and say, look up that word and write ten sentences employing that word.
They did so, but it took weeks for them to forge those ten sentences.
Meanwhile, we were exploring the best of books to find an exemplary sentence.
They in turn crafted lines of beauty.
Those who managed tell me those mean, (meaning frugal) and unsparing exercises changed their lives.
Like Eve, black women sowed their families’ destruction by biting into the poisoned fruit of LBJ’s Great Society.
I confess it hurt me to read that a kid think he can’t do an assignment because he’s too stupid. Their parents should be shot.
Ideas, not genetics, are what cause people to rise or fall. People trapped in poverty are trapped by their mind, not their circumstances. I know way to many people who have started with nothing to believe that people are doomed to stay in the station they were born to.
Blacks in urban areas and in certain parts of the deep South have developed poisonous ideas. Walter E. Williams wrote an article almost a year ago to the day about how welfare is an equal opportunity destroyer: http://townhall.com/columnists/walterewilliams/2012/07/04/the_underclass
Thomas Sowell wrote and entire book, http://www.amazon.com/Black-Rednecks-Liberals-Thomas-Sowell/dp/1594031436/ref=bit_f_abba_amznsearch_ie_us_title/176-2857579-0430104?_encoding=UTF8&tag=abba-amznsearch-us-ie-20&tagbase=abba, about how the black ghetto culture which many like Bill Maher think is authentic black culture, actually comes from the redneck culture of the antebellum south.
None of these ideas about education and oppression were inherited. It is the result of groupthink. It was taught to these kids by their parents and by their teachers and by the liberal culture. Kids are taught to be part of the collective: don’t leave the group and don’t think for yourself.
Where ever Collectivism is adopted progress stops. Look at the Middle East. There you have the world dominated by a Collectivist religion and you can see that world is almost exactly as it was when that religion was adopted centuries ago. In Europe they seem to be stuck in the early 20th century, at best, which is about the time when Marxism began to be popular.
The only way to combat this is by teaching people they are unique individuals who are responsible for their own lives. In other words, people have to grow up. And that is a hard sell.
“People trapped in poverty are trapped by their mind” No truer words have been written. This is a mindset formed by decades of dependency and government policies that trap people in poverty. They cannot think “outside the box” because they don’t know they are in one.
Like I’ve been saying – CULTURE.
(Culture can be classified (loosely) as Groupthink)
Anybody read The 5000 Year Leap?? Ideas, not genetics. Culture.
Well, one thing this thread has proven is that collectivism is the default setting for humans. This is why Conservatism is such a hard sell. Look at how many people talk about “whites” and “blacks” as if these are some monolithic group, as if a 0.1% variation makes one a totally different species.
We founded this country on the rational ideal that human beings are individuals who have the right to determine their own destiny. But it seems many would like to return the idea that we are part of a collective and that we have no worth on our own.
This has been the most depressing discussion I’ve seen in a long time.
Great book!
“…black ghetto culture which many like Bill Maher think is authentic black culture, actually comes from the redneck culture of the antebellum south.” – Sowell via eneecie
And the “redneck culture of the antebellum south” was actually a continuation of behaviors and attitudes from the unrefined areas of Scotland.
“A fine read. I think I’ll pull it off the shelf and read it again!
It troubles me that the people who most need to read Sowell and Williams, may never get near an article, much less a book.
The only way to fix it is cut off all freebes. I managed a group of 50 plus blacks and they were always loud and in play mood. They never had a sense of urgency to do their job. Affirmative Action is a gross theft to all america. They have done irreparable damage to america that will never be corrected and it damn sure is the fault of the demoroids that will sink america just to be in control. The blame is at the feet of JFK/LBJ. The demoroids have been in gift moad and now you have an affirmative action president who is totally incompetent.
I’m a Hispanic that had the missfortune of ending up in a place called East New York and Brownsville back in the late 60’s among blacks. The level of racism and abuse by blacks is something indelible in my mind. I managed to pull out of that place and poverty. Today, I am an industrialist and travel throught this continent and notice that blacks in other countries are generally more educated, less agressive and liked by other races, as opposed to US blacks who are quite radioactive. Shame what has happened to black America but their level of ignorance is such that they are the laughing stock of people from places considered “third world”. Let’s face it, any US marginal neighborhood is the equivalent of a third world nation. Shame indeed, it should not happen here.
as a brit, i whole heartedly agree, the problem is not with black people at all, its an african american problem. However due to america being the largest exporter of culture in the world, and even the most racist can see that black people are a large part of that culture, most of the world equates all black people with the african american. It actually affects me in my daily life as a black man in england. For me, as soon as men like Jessie Jackson and that fucking tard Al Sharpton became the voice for black people, almost all hope was lost, they are open racists and actually promote ignorance, anybody remember that “black hole” graduation card? that situation actually made me face palm so hard that i nearly knocked myself out
Brit, how about you call out the white racists. Let’s see that list.
Why should he?
You are right! We as Americans should be AMERICANS,,, not AFRICAN AMERICAN! I DON’T refer to myself as IRISH AMERICAN, I AM AN AMERICAN, PERIOD, Some people cause their OWN DIVIDE by calling themselves by a SEPARTIST NAME, WHO’S FAULT IS THAT????
I taught in a predominant black school, actually a few of them in Virginia. My boys had to attend them and I had to work in them. I never had the views that I have until now. I am now in the process of moving, after living here for 2 years because of how terrible it is. The student’s cannot be taught because they are too loud and unattentive. My boys were hit, bullied, and made fun of on a daily basis because they had white skin. Never, ever, will I put my child in a black school, work in a black school, or live in a black city again.
I applaud your decision, but question why an educator doesn’t know the difference between a possessive and a collective?
Thank your for your support on my decision. However, that is the problem with today’s society, too much judging and assuming. I hold my degree in English. I do know the difference. I was doing text to speech on my cell and it sometimes types the wording and grammar incorrectly. Not that I have to prove my credentials to anyone, but I just wanted to let you know how foolish that sounded to me. Yes, there are some bad teachers out there that do not know or practice what they teach. I am not one of them. If this comes across harsh, I apologize. I just cannot stand when people scrutinize others for things they know nothing about.
Why, to have something for you to do – pick nits. Its not unusual to make a mistake and drop or insert one, its done by us all the time. ;P
Don’t make me loose my mind, i’ll loose everything I have!
Hang lose!
The Black community attempted to assimilate into the American culture after WWII but then the Socialists/Communists saw that DIVIDING the races in America was a way to take over our country. By the mid 60s, there were enough of the “Community Organizer” types, along with the Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton con-men, to get race hatred whipped to a frenzy. THEN, Blacks, coached by others, made their OWN “Culture” which has come to fruition of late.
Unless there is a MASSIVE movement or change in the Black families and communities, there will NEVER be a whole country called America. As it stands, we have two completely disparate cultures that cannot, by the nature of the Black’s way of life, live together in trust and peace. They have become what Muslim emigrants have been for YEARS – a foreign culture foisted upon a nation without any possible way of assimilating.
The most RACIST PEOPLE in America today are Blacks. Anyone not accepting that truth is not in touch with the Reality of the now.
Since the election of Barrack Obama race relations have been set back at least 30 years. This is my observation.
First of all there is a self hate, and the struggle between blk women can’t be beat. Its true that Obama has done more against race relations, but none can compare than Racist in America by Whites. To drain a swimming pool becuz a blk woman took a swim, no compareason to the level of hate. And only a Black man would think differently!
I have never heard about that, have never seen something like that happen and I don’t live in an area where it would if it did in fact happen. Was it specifically a black woman for the reason for emptying the pool or was that perceived, and there may have been another reason? Just as this article above explains is that today blacks seem to be hypersensitive to anything that they believe is remotely racist. See, even if the whites are in fact racist they would keep it among themselves and wouldn’t even attempt to display any outward hostility toward a black person. Can the same be true if it were majority black people and only a few white’s? The classroom scenario in the letter above, if it was a majority white classroom and the white kids start saying derogatory things about blacks the white kids would get in trouble, maybe even suspension. Jim Crow was in the south about a generation ago but I live up in the north east where there wasn’t Jim Crow yet whites have always been targeted by blacks especially if it were two or more against one. Show me a YouTube video of white’s beating on a black person and I can show you 20 of blacks beating on a white person.
The situation Caroline references probably happened back in the days of the KKK and George Wallace. I saw a picture of a white manager pouring acid in a pool (supposedly) while a bunch of black people were in it. Well, this type of thing does not happen anymore. Whites have grown and learned, and lots of blacks have not.
Ginger, the KKK still exists and they have almost 1 million members/supporters.
The KKK is the Militant wing of the Democrat party, brought about to suppress the Black vote.
A little history goes a long way
Thanks Dallas, most of these readers a young or Obama voters!
Now, they also have and love the Black panthers. They are as sick as the KKK ever was. This administration panders to them
Dallas, your statement is correct as far as it goes. The KKK WAS, not IS the Militant wing of the Democratic party, brought about to suppress the Black vote……AFTER the Civil War through the 50s and 60s. The KKK has not been influential in many years. The KKK is a boogeyman that is trotted out when people want to justify certain current behaviors.
Now the KKK uses the IRS against Obamas enemies.
The KKK has no power. They are a small pathetic ragtag group that draws more anti-KKK to any appearance than pro. They are like WBC. Sure you hate listening to them and their nutty ideas, but it’s 1st amendment so you grumble and move on.
And certainly, they have no influence with the IRS, I hope you are making a joke.
Democrats want to keep blacks on welfare and dependent on the government AND keep them uneducated, it’s the new KKK (Democrat) sponsored slavery. Wake up.
Here’s a great site to back you up. http://www.black-and-right.com/the-democrat-race-lie/
You’ve posted a link to the site we are already ON, ya dink!
If you can find a Klan meeting, you can be almost certain that the dues-paying members are actually employed by an alphabet agency as undercover agents/spies. This is the only way to keep the Klan running so the Administration/NAACP/SPLC will have a Boogieman to point at.
That may be true, although I hope it is not. But there are maybe 280,000,000 or so (?) whites in the US. So that million, while very regrettable, is a very small percentage.
Cas, I agree, but the fact is…most people are racist won’t admit it. So, we really have no way of knowing exactly. But, we can be sure that there millions more than the 1 million who will admit it.
What white people really get tired of (and yes, I’m generalizing and lumping and really don’t give a crap if you call me a racist) is the whining. You are given all the same rights, all the same opportunities… if you account for “affirmative action”, sometimes blacks have more opportunities than whites. Whites KNOW there are inconsistencies and the gov’t has worked hard to get rid of them since 1865, yet you keep beating us over the head with the crap. Quit already. I wasn’t alive in 1865. I wasn’t even alive in 1955. I don’t have “white guilt”.. what I do have is “white exhaustion.”
White exhaustion and “really get tired of” IS WHINING! You have seen me uset no such language. I only state either facts or logic. If giving facts or logic is whining but “we get really tired” is not…I must be on a different planet. Smh
“What white people really get tired of” IS WHINING! lol. If you think we have equal rights in this country you are more delusional than the racist dude on here who said we should go back to Africa but says he is not a racist! You all are funny whining about black people whining. Do you whine about rape victims calling attention to when they get raped too?
If the black leaders like Sharpton and Jackson let racism die, then they go away and so does all of the money made from racism! these are just a handful of the “Special” services for blacks. white’s don’t have all of these “special” services just set up and “designed” for their color! NOW, tell me where the “racism” is coming from? but if we have equality all of this goes away and so does the money behind all of them! http://www.tnj.com/lists-resources/black-organizations-and-organizations-serving-black-communities
As soon as there equality for all..and the 30 percent of white people who still think blacks are second class citizens change their minds andt hearts…there will be no possibility for Jesse and Al to make money. But equality is not here yet and racism is nowhere near dead.
Debbie, What portion of white Americans do you think are racist?
I would say at least 30%. I would also say the same for the blacks being racist, about 30%. I also think as long as we keep separating ourselves with programs for one race and not the other we will NEVER do away with racism. As long as one group is singled out as “different” or “special in need” people will treat them as such. We are what we say we are. Where I live racism runs just as hard in the black community as the white. It is appalling to see such ignorance with each other because of the color of skin. God should strike us all blind and then maybe we would learn a lesson.
Debbie, thank you for being honest. Now, if 30% of both races are racist ..that means in terms of sheer numbers that means there are 84 MILLION racist white people and 18 MILLION racist black people. Now let me ask you this. How many black people in power deny white people jobs, housing, equal justice, loans, or education, just because of the color of their skin? Now ask yourself how often this happens to black people if 84 million white people are still racist?
Unless the Zim/Martin case is some rare kind of exception, then I’d say it’s not so much a problem of the percentage of whites that are racist. Why is this suddenly a white/black thing when Zimm is Hispanic? Why aren’t we discussing the Hispanic/Black problem? I doubt you’re going to react all kind and logical after reading the majority of your posts and re-posts about racism in this country, but that’s your view, your call and your right.
I can’t say I care too much about racism, as I’m just an equal opprotunity hater.
Um, no they do not, not by any measure. The Klan has not had anything close to that level of membership for almost 100 years. The current estimate is around 6,000, doubtful no more than 10k including “supporters.” Sorry, it’s a pittance really. Last time I saw the Klan protest, they were outnumbered 100 to one; it was laughable how far from reality many people among the protesters were regarding the real influence and membership of the Klan. The large group of protesters who showed up were very dangerous, however, and began smashing windows and police cars.
I live in North Georgia, and I would really have to work to find the Klan around here, and what I’d probably find instead in a federal agent looking to bust what remains tucked up in the mountains.
Not even the SPLC would claim such far-fetched numbers, and they tend to over-inflate white supremacist influences.
Um that’s because they changed their name to Democrats.
THE SPLC are as bigoted as the KKK esp. when it comes to Jews and Israel.
A ridiculous assertion. The Klan had a rally in Memphis in March of this year to protest the renaming of parks originally named after Confederate luminaries. They claimed it would be their biggest ever. And how many people showed up? Less than 75.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/31/us/klan-protests-renaming-of-3-confederate-parks-in-memphis.html
The KKK Is only a Front for a much bigger and dangerous agenda. I know first hand I am a Reformed Racist. Racism and Hatred is wrong!
Thankfully small, the world would be a much better place with the people that live for hate like the KKK, the New Black Panthers and all the hate splinter groups…sadly, I have to include our present Administration..the Progressive ideology is eugenically based, and is responsible for the greatest evils of the 20th century.
But what do they do, and in what areas are they relevant? There may be 1 million supporters, but the most that they do is burn a cross now and then and sit around and whine and bellyache. Most of them are meth addicts anyway, so they aren’t really capable of rational thought OR action. If they do act out, they will select some hapless black person – probably elderly – and menace him or her. They’re just bullies who congregate and convince themselves they have some purpose in life. The Black Panthers, however, ARE a serious threat in areas such as Philadelphia, where they actively engaged in voter suppression and intimidation. Ditto for the Fruit of Islam (Farrakhan’s group) – they are quite active in inner city areas and do a great job of menacing any whites who happen to drive through the area.
See the problem is, KKK Arayan nation and the other 20 white supremacist groups are largely cowards. You are correct they don’t get out and do much. But they are employers, politicians, judges, cops, administrators, and yes even teachers like this one, woven into the fabric of every day life without the decency to at least acknowledge in public that they hate or simply dislike anyone who is not white. The New black panther party and the NOI let you know exactly where they stand. They don’t wear hoods and they just try to blend into society. They want to stand out! At least you know the enemy you are fighting. There are no NOI judges sending white people to jail for 3 times the amount of time for the exact same offense as black people (that’s what whites do to blacks). There are no NOI police beating up and/or killing white people because of racial profiling. There are no Panthers denying white people loans because of their skin color. There are no NOI teachers in white schools telling them they won’t be anything but thugs and criminals. The list goes on and on how systematic oppression by the MAJORITY is detrimental to the minorities in this country.
With all that being said, there are enough opportunities and resources in this country that any races, culture, or nationality can succeed and there are no excuses. This is what I teach my four sons. However, injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Just because it is incumbent upon us to succeed despite the racial animus that still exists in this country, does not mean we should “ignore” it and not try to make it better for generations to come.
“even teachers like this one, woven into the fabric of every day life without the decency to at least acknowledge in public that they hate or simply dislike anyone who is not white”
I never got the impression that this teacher hated anyone who was not white – I got the impression he was frustrated that his students would never get beyond the idea that every bad thing that happened in their lives was due to racism, rather than being a natural consequence of their behavior. I agree that teachers do hold blacks to a lower standard – that is unfortunately called “compassion” and “cultural sensitivity” in liberal universities that crank out teachers, and is supported by administrators. To me, those people who claim to be your advocate and friend but who create policies that make blacks (and other minorities) dependent are more racist than anyone!
As to loan officers not lending to blacks, why not look at some obvious facts here as well. In general, there are more blacks who are late paying bills such as utilities, credit cards, telephone, etc. That’s why so many of them commit fraud by using their children’s social security numbers to sign up for utilities, rather than trying to clean up their own financial messes. Further, there are few blacks who are in professions that are stable and profitable, such as technology, engineering, etc. A white person with the same kind of credit history who was in a job that was likely to go south would be denied credit, and rightfully so.
Look also at the justice system. Granted, whites accused of a crime may be more likely to mortgage their home and hire a decent criminal attorney, thus obtaining better representation than a non-white, which may account for perceived inequities in sentencing. However, there may also be differences in criminal history at work as well. Be sure to compare apples to apples – do the defendants have the same kind of background and history? Let’s face it – the defendant who comes up for sentencing with a record dating back to his or her preteen years WILL be sentenced more harshly than a first-timer.
You sound like a reasonable person, and you are making an effort to raise your kids in a responsible way. But you also have to do a little more in the way of confronting your own knee-jerk labeling of everything that might be an obstacle to your or their achievement as “racist.” This becomes more of a stumbling block to your own achievement because it takes all responsibility for your situation out of your hands, and it also denies that whites can ALSO be discriminated against because of age, weight, or other attributes that are out of their control, but they are still expected to be civil, responsible and respectable. I know that there are whites who are racist and who would never be genuinely friendly to a person of color, but I know more whites who don’t make color a priority. Calling everything “racist” just creates a social climate in which real racism isn’t called out.
That was a decent attempt at logic in order to defend racist and/or prejudiced attitudes in this America. I don’t discount what you BELIEVE to be true. But let me tackle a couple of misperceptions. First, Banking: There are INFINITLY more white people with bad credit than black people simply because there are way more white people in terms of numbers. In terms of percentage POOR black people are no more fraudulent or behind on utilities than POOR white people. Trailer park white people put use their kids to get utilities also. Yet, when this white trailer park person walks into a bank with a 620 credit score working at the same place as a black person he is twice as likely to get the loan as the black person. This is not because black people default at a higher rate, it is because of the PERCEPTION that black people as a WHOLE are worse with paying bills. But that is simply not the case…just a belief rooted in traditional attitudes of this country not facts.
As for the injustice system. I am comparing apples to apples. I am speaking of first time offenders on simple charges such as petty weed charges or petty theft. Both defendants with public defenders….with the EXACT SAME JUDGE and the black person gets on average 3 times as much time. This has been proven here in my city on 2 separate studies spanning 10 years and both times the findings were squashed. So, on a national level when the same findings are published, it is easy to believe. I do understand the economic bias of the justice system. That is not what I am referring to. I am referring to the prejudiced beliefs that cops, prosecutors, and judges have (white or black) against people of color because of the propaganda and exaggerations that the tradition of racism has spread about us since the day we were brought to these shores as slaves.
Understand this. Until the 1950’s the majority of whites in this country (at least 51%) didn’t even believe us to be fully human! lol Come on man, you know the effect that racial bias has had on most American families. Why is it that white people try to marginalize and demean the personal experiences that black people have in this country? Is it just because of the FEW black people who use it as an excuse? Well, please understand that 76% of us have succeeded DESPITE the racism that STILL runs rampant in this country. So we are not COMPLAINING or USING IT AS A CRUTCH…we are simply calling attention to it when necessary because IT IS NOT RIGHT. Injustice to anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. It is our duty to resist even if it doesn’t effect us personally, because we want this country to be great! Progress has always, always been met with opposition from those who benefit the most from how things are currently. So, ask yourself why would anyone be against exposing all racial bias?
You fail at your math, Andre. Of course there are WAY more white people who have bad credit, but as a PERCENTAGE of the whole, there are WAY fewer. The “trailer park” white still has to have some sort of a job and have a FICO score – or are you alleging that somehow, FICO is a “racist” institution? There are still whites who can’t qualify for the trailer park and live what amounts to be a transient lifestyle – mooching off one landlord, then leaving in the middle of the night to mooch of another (if you’ve ever read Jean Shepherd’s “A Christmas Story” you’ll see that in his depiction of the Bumpus family.) So the idea that no poor white trash is ever denied a loan is fallacy at its best. That, of course, is the reason payday loans and car title loans are advertised during airings of the Jerry Springer show.
Can you cite the studies that allegedly show unequal treatment for first time petty offenders? What was the methodology used in those studies? You have stated that black judges, black police officers and black prosecutors are prejudiced against black defendants – isn’t that just another way of saying any black person who assumes one of these professions is a sellout? Perhaps they have higher expectations of blacks, because despite dealing with whatever racism came their way, they CHOSE a path that was different than that of the thug in front of them. They may be embarrassed to have to deal with what they are seeing, and that is why they seem to be harsh.
As for marginalizing racism, how about this – when Jesse Jackson refers to New York City as “Hymietown,” and it’s perfectly acceptable for blacks to make derogatory remarks about the Koreans who open stores in black neighborhoods when no one else – blacks included – is willing to take that risk, then maybe you can talk about marginalizing racism against blacks. Injustice, as you’ve said, IS wrong, as is racism, no matter WHO practices it.
Your attempt to “defend” white racism by indicting blacks only helps to prove my point that racism is still woven deep into the fabric of our society. But, let me tackle a couple of your misnomers.
I didn’t say that poor white people are never turned down for loans or credit. I also didn’t say that fico is a racist scoring method for credit. What I said was when a poor white person walks into a bank with a 620 and a poor black person walks in with a 620 and they both work at the same place and make the same income the white person is TWICE AS LIKELY to get that loan because the loan officers and underwriters can not separate themselves from the white applicant based on a perceived difference. The prejudice that people have against black people that are based on exaggerations negatively effects black people. Why is that so hard for you all to believe?? lol
I didn’t say anyone was a sell out..smh. I said ” I am referring to the prejudiced beliefs that cops, prosecutors, and judges have (white or black) against people of color because of the propaganda and exaggerations that the tradition of racism has spread about us since the day we were brought to these shores as slaves.” You all are always trying to reframe the conversation when you are losing..lol My statement is not about the MAJORITY of black or white cops, judges, or prosecutors. But the minority is a large enough group to negatively affect blacks as a whole. Black people in those professions are not necessarily sell outs. But there are SOME who are sell outs. i.e Clarence Thomas, Larry Elder, etc. Regardless of the “reason” they (white or black) think racial profiling and stereotyping is acceptable…IT IS NOT. Black cars get searched for drugs 3 times as many times as whites even though white are 4.5 times more likely to have drugs on them…smh. That is not a fabrication. That is not whining or race baiting. It is BULLSHIT based on ancient prejudices about black people. It is what it is, however. We will deal with it, like we always have, because people like you will never admit that is it injustice.
Lastly, the fact that Jackson says racist things or Sharpton or anyone else who is black DOES NOT ABSOLVE white people of the SYSTEM of injustice that they put in place during Jim Crow that still effects us. Please point out a system of injustice that black people put in place that negatively effects the lives of millions of white people. PLEASE! lol I agree racism is wrong no matter who practices it, but you don’t see me here trying to justify black people hating white people. Why are YOU trying to justify white people hating black people by marginalizing it?
Your whole stinking line of illogical, race baiting nonsense.
You are barely adequate at stringing words together, but you have missed the concept of actual ideas behind them.
This is why you argue with every point anybody makes, and use your trumpeting your lack of racist goals: to enforce your own personal racism!
Not only do I refute your whole argument, I say YOU sir are the racist.
Don’t you have a riot to get ready for?
You are getting emotional and starting to engage in personal attacks because you are losing the debate. This is typical conservative tactics. If you are going to refute what I say, do it with facts and not your emotions.
Calling me racist is like calling a rape victim a rapist..smh. Just because I call attention to racism (from blacks towards whites or whites towards blacks) doesn’t make me racist. It makes me a seeker of JUSTICE and TRUTH. I am objective. I am more than ready to change what I believe when presented with facts and/or logic that leads to me doing so. ARE YOU?
Check my facebook page and see the over 300 white friends I have. Call my BEST FRIEND IN THE WORLD …the white guy who made me godfather of his children to see if I am racist. You challenge me personally when you should be challenging what you believe because you obviously haven’t looked at all of the facts and logic OBJECTIVELY.
The more time you spend in front of the keyboard arguing with those with whom you wish to harangue with your nonsense is less time you are out in society making life miserable for others.
I consider your time spent with me as precious, and I cherish it more than you know.
More emotion….smh. How about a few facts? How about an intelligent premise? This preoccupation you have on me directly seems to me that you have conceded, because you have abandoned the topic completely and made me the focus. My goal was not to “win” a debate It was to get you to think about the nonsense that was written in this essay. I suppose I failed, because you don’t want to THINK. Oh well, can’t win them all….ha.
“You are getting emotional and starting to engage in personal attacks because you are losing the debate. This is typical conservative tactics.” Actually, no. That is a typical Liberal Democratic tactic.
Lol, great comeback….smh. I have been personally attack on this CONSERVATIVE PAGE..too many times to count. I haven’t attacked anyone., and none of the people who agree with me have attacked anyone. Maybe you need to read all of the posts here and see who Is doing the attacking and who is just staying on topic
as for me,i dont give a fu-k that you call me racist,however these people dont have to debate you,they dont have to waste time researching what we can clearly see all around us everyday,we see what happens to any city that is majority black,we see our people being raped,robbed & killed EVERYDAY,not a day goes by where a white person isnt raped/robbed/killed as the hands of a black individual now dispute that fact,I DARE YOU,why is it when a white person kills a black 17 yr old who in self defense its a big deal but when two black teens murder 12 yr old Autumn Pasquale & stuff her body into trashcan all we hear is ‘crickets’ ,or this one,White couple car jacked raped,mutilated, and tortured by 4 Black Africans in Knoxville, Tennessee. This story was not covered in the mainstream media…why,help me to understand what makes your kids better than mine…and please stop trying to convince these folks that what they’re seeing everyday isnt really happening,they dont have to debate you,we are not seeking your approval,we can see it with our eyes…
Your eyes are unfortunately attached to a head that is incapable of critical thought, because racists are not very bright. They are guided by emotion, fear, ignorance, and low self esteem. These things make you unable to comprehend what I am about to say that are FACTS that you will just ignore because you would rather FEEL like you are right and somehow benefit from being racist. That is your right. You have a right to your own opinion …but not to your own facts.
To answer your question: The case made national news NOT BECAUSE A BLACK KID WAS KILLED…It made national news because THE WHITE HISPANIC GUY WHO SHOT HIM WAS NOT EVEN GOING TO BE CHARGED! How is that different? Well let me tell you. When a black on black crime happens and they KNOW who committed the crime THE BLACK CRIMIINAL IS CHARGED WITH A CRIME 96.5% OF THE TIME. When a BLACK person commits a crime against a white person he is charged 99% of the time. But for some strange reason when a white/Hispanic supposedly “upstanding” citizen commits a crime against a black person they are only charged 60% of the time! Now isn’t that interesting? So, the uproar was because BLACK VICTIMS are infinitely less important to the justice system than white victims. We did hear about those white victims at the hands black assailants. But, if those black people WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN CHARGED WITH CRIMES…I GUARANTEE that white people across the nation would have been screaming bloody murder and ready to lynch some “ni—–”
Am I going to try to dispute that black people commit crimes against white people.? No. But lets understand how delusional you all are about race. Over 170,000 rapes of WHITE WOMEN were committed by WHITE MEN. Less than 20,000 rapes of white women were committed by ALL OTHER RACES COMBINED. Yet , in you all’s narrow minds, black people are bigger threats of raping white women than white people. You find that to be intelligent?
Oh and as far as whose kids are more important…my God children are white..and they are just important to me as my own children…CLOWN!
blah,blah fuc-ing blah, & your rape statistics are bullsh-or else wou’d post a resource & whitey bashing websites don’t count & im not gonna name call you cause that’s for pus-ies
“Your eyes are unfortunately attached to a head that is incapable of critical thought, because racists are not very bright. They are guided by emotion, fear, ignorance, and low self esteem”.
racists————–ok,you got me there,but only cause you said so & I previously stated that I don’t give a fu-k what you think in regards to that
emotional———-NO
fear, you————are you fuc-ing kidding
ignorant ———–um,no
low self esteem–never in my life,falls under “emotional”.
Unified Crime Reports. Crime statistics are compiled from UCR data and published annually by the FBI in the Crime in the United States series. — my source
I told you about trying to lie to the people,now I had to go to the trouble of looking sh-t up..
Interracial Rape StatisticsWhen whites do violence — rape, murder, assault — how often do they choose black victims? Shouldn’t a nation of bigots target blacks most of the time? At least half of the time? Of course, it does not. When whites commit violence, they to it to blacks 2.4 percent of the time. Blacks, on the other hand, choose white victims more than half the time. [317]
In those cases in which the race of the killer is known, blacks kill twice as many whites as whites kill blacks. Black-on-white robberies and gang assaults are twenty-one times more common than white on black. In the case of gang robbery, blacks victimize whites fifty-two times more often than whites do blacks. [318]
The contrasts are even more stark in the case of interracial rape. Studies from the late 1950s showed that the vast majority of rapes were same-race offenses. Research in Philadelphia carried out in 1958 and 1960 indicated that of all rapes, only 3.2 percent were black-on-white assaults and 3.6 percent were white-on-black. Since that time, the proportion of black-on-white rapes has soared. In a 1974 study in Denver, 40 percent of all rapes were of whites by blacks, and not one case of white-on-black rape was found. In general, through the 1970s, black-on-white rape was at least ten times more common that white-on-black rape. [319]
Because interracial rape is now overwhelmingly black on white, it has become difficult to do research on it or to find relevant statistics. The FBI keeps very detailed national records on crime, but the way it presents rape data obscures the racial element rather than clarifies it. Dr. William Wilbanks, a criminologist at Florida International University, had to sift carefully through the data to find that in 1988 there were 9,406 cases of black-on-white rape and fewer than ten cases of white-on-black rape. [320] Another researcher concludes that in 1989, blacks were three or four times more likely to commit rape than whites, and that black men raped white women thirty times as often as white men raped black women. [321]
Interracial crime figures are even worse than they sound. Since there are more than six times as many whites as blacks in America, it means that any given black person is vastly more likely to commit a crime against a white than vice versa.
Notes317. “What Should Be Done,” US News & World Report (August 22, 1989), p. 54. See also Department of Justice, Criminal Victimization in the United States, 1987 (Washington, DC: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1989), p.7.
318. Department of Justice, Criminal Victimization in the United States, 1987.
See even your STATS are racist. Lol. I will explain in the morning.
how are MY stats racist when i copy & pasted them ?
no your racist,NO YOUR RACIST,no your racist…come on dude that is sooo played out,we both are,you are too,fuc-ing admit it,the 300 honkys on your FB page dont mean shit ,i bet theyre 300 gay ass liberals….& by the way i wasnt raised like this,when i was a jit i was the white kid who ONLY hung out with blacks,that was all i had to choose from in my jacksonville florida neighborhood,shit i was convinced that everytime thay said “cracka” in front of me that they werent talking about me,but essentially,they were,police were ‘them crackas’,judges were ‘them crackas’,social workers were ‘them crackas’ so basically all who they considered enemies they called crackas,even you your self have been known to say ‘them crackas’.so YES you are a racist…..
DONT SLING ROCKS WHEN YOU LIVE IN A GLASS HOUSE….
LOL!!! Man, you make me laugh. The 300 white people that I’m friends with don’t matter…cuz I am still racist? Lol! Look, Weather they are gay, liberal, Jew, Muslim, Atheist, Christian, conservative, republican, democrat, rich or poor, they are still my friends and I DO NOT JUDGE THEM OR THINK I AM BETTER THEM BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN!!
BTW, Cracka is primarily as southern term. I am from the Midwest, I don’t know anyone who uses it much less me. Redneck, Racist, or Crazy white people are more often used.
Do you even know what RACIST MEANS? I am starting to think you just think it means hate. You are an equal opportunity hater it seems. You hate gays, liberals, and black people by your own admission. You probably also hate democrats, Jews, Muslims (even the white ones), Arabs, People from India and North Africa (because they look Arab to you), and Mexicans. THIS MAKES YOU A HATER WITH LOW SELF-ESTEEM, IT DOES NOT MAKE YOU A RACIST. What makes you a “racist” is that you believe that you are BETTER THAN BLACK, MEXICAN, AND ARABS just because you are WHITE. So, let me reiterate, I DO NOT BELIEVE I AM BETTER THAN ANYONE ON THIS PLANET BY VIRTUE OF THEIR SKIN COLOR/RACE. I Do happen to believe I am better than ALL racists…black, white, Asian, Hispanic, or whomever. I believe I am better than those of you who are racist because RACISM is based on sheer ignorance, fear, emotion, hate and low self-esteem.
I am courageous, emotionally mature, well informed, and I don’t have to put others down so I can feel good about myself. So, I couldn’t possibly be racist! LOL.
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see,there you go again,I never said I was better than ANYONE,that would be a “supremacist”..& you are racist,ALL blacks are racist…I told you,I went to school with blacks, ‘i grew up with em,& yet here you go trying to convince me I didn’t see or experience what I seen & experienced everyday..
did I put you down ?or did I tell the truth,which you wont accept,who knows,to each his own…
You can’t put me down. It is impossible. You TRIED to put all black people down, but that is not possible either. You want me to be racist because you are a supremacist. How do I know you are a supremacist? Because you just said ALL BLACK PEOPLE ARE RACIST….SMH. Do you know what EMPERICAL evidence is? It means you would have had to MEET ALL BLACK PEOPLE to make such a determination. I would venture to say that you have not met all black people…lol. Also, since I am not racist , that would render your statement that all black people are racist untrue. Go to my facebook page, add me, and then as any of my over 300 white friends if just ONE of them find me to be racist! I dare you. Now when I go to your Facebook page, how many black friends will I find…and how many of them know you think ALL BLACK PEOPLE are racist?
Let me try to help you out because I love white people! Your experience is your experience. I can’t , nor do I want to, take that away from you. However, emotional responses to personal experiences IS NOT EMPERICAL EVIDENCE. You can not judge EVERYONE based on your experience. That would mean that you are calling all the white people who experience love from black people liars. It would mean you are calling me a liar when I say I love some white people like my white goddaughter, and white best friend love me too.
Your belief is based on too small a sample to have a good conclusion. People don’t make objective decisions when emotions come into play and obviously you made an emotional decision.
Did you just bring up 1987 numbers? Lol. Ok, let me tell you why even your stats are racist.
First, our conversation was about the INJUSTICE system, not black on white crime…lol. And certainly not from 1987…lol. I’m trying to stop laughing..sorry. Anyway, anytime someone presents facts, stats, or evidence one has to ask themselves “what is the goal?”. Well, it seems as if your goal, and the goal of the study was to demonize black people. How do we know? Because according to the department of justice 2010,,,94 percent of black people killed were killed by black people and 84 percent of white people were killed by white people. Now, although black people commit murder more in sheer numbers, in every other violent crime stat white people leads everyone in the country by at LEAST 2 to 1. People who want to feel like they are better than black people (like yourself) use percentages in relation to how few in number we actually are to skew the perception. Let me give you a prime example. Let’s take rape. There were 194,270 white and 17,920 black victims of rape or sexual assault reported in 2006 a.[102] .
Only just slightly over 11,000 of those were black one white rapes. So you are saying white women are more afraid of getting raped by a black man than a white man when white men raped white women over 180 THOUSAND more times? Well, the reason that is..if you consider than less than 18,000 black victims are even raped, then OF COURSE there are going to be a significantly higher percentages of white victims at the hands of blacks than black victims at the hands of whites. But, it is still just a drop in the bucket (less than 8%) of the rapes of white women by black men. So, the question is..WHY does it make that big a deal If black men are raping white women 180,000 time fewer than white men? …BECAUSE THERE IS STILL RACISM. And you all WANT to dislike black people. If there was EQUALITY and NO RACISM then it wouldn’t matter what small % of white women were being raped by black men because white women would STILL be more afraid of getting raped by white men. But, that would only be if the world were LOGICAL.
Did you just bring up 1987 numbers? Lol. Ok, let me tell you why even your stats are racist.
why yes i did bring up 1987 numbers & if you read the report it says the stats only got worse…
First, our conversation was about the INJUSTICE system, not black on white crime…lol. And certainly not from 1987…lol.
YOUR conversation was about the INJUSTICE system,fu-k justice,justice is not saving the lives of my folks.because the black on white violence keeps on & keeps on happening,so justice isnt working,HOWEVER,vengeance is a much better tool,see,prison is not a good enough scare for a blk individual to make him think twice about commiting a violent crime against a caucasian,HOWEVER,if that same individual knew that :well damn,if i rob/kill or rape that white lady ,that honky gonna come back & kill 3 or 4 of mine,SEE NOW THAT is enough to make a blk individual think twice,once these white folks catch on to that i GUARAAANNNTEEEEEEE the black on white violence will cease…oh & what is your opinion on the white genocide going on in South Africa,or have you even heard about it ???
Yeah, you keep changing the subject just because you don’t want to be wrong. It’s typical. As for the black on white crime…I don’t give a crap. 89% of all crime committed on white people are committed by WHITE PEOPLE! White people are shooting up schools and movie theaters. The vast majority of serial killers are white men. White men raped white women over 170,000 times last year (compared to a lil over 11,000 black men raping white women). Whites commit all manner of atrocities in this country and around the world that you don’t care about because they are white. So, please don’t PRETEND you care about the safety of white people..because you don’t. You only care about white people being safe from black people. That is just DUMB. And, you only have this dumb ass belief because there is something in you that makes you not love yourself. So in order to FEEL better, you need a scapegoat for your hate, anger, and low self-esteem. The scapegoat is anyone who doesn’t agree with your narrow-minded views. This makes you feel like you are better than blacks, jews, liberals, democrats, Arabs, and Mexicans. Well, let me tell you something buddy. The little Mexican lady(who is legally here) that works for me who walks to work, always has a smile on her face, puts her daughter through college by working two jobs, and loves everyone the same is MUCH smarter than you and an INFINITELY better person than you! So, it is your right to continue to believe all the BS that you believe. But, don’t think that good blacks, whites, Hispanics, Arabs, etc. will ever come to believe the same things. Sorry Charlie, this race war that you are hoping for WILL NEVER HAPPEN! Does that break your heart?? Lol.
Actually the truth is far far worse than your vanity
http://www.colorofcrime.com/
” Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white,43 percent are black,and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime,only three percent of their victims are black. Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit violent crimes against whites than vice versa”
And just compare lynchings from 1865 to 1965 with whites dying at their hands just past 40 years
2400 lynchings versus between 180-200,000 killings of whites by blacks
blacks shoot up,neighborhoods,parades,funerals,schools & every gatdamn thing else they can get a gun into.and why do you keep trying to feed me Al Sharptons statistics for the white man.
“as for black on white crime don’t give a crap”
i bet you would if it started resulting in revenge crimes x 3
“89% of all crime committed on white people are committed by WHITE PEOPLE”
that’s wrong,surely from AL’s Sharptons book of crime stat’s..
Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white,43 percent are black,and 10 percent are Hispanic
” So, please don’t PRETEND you care about the safety of white people”
oh, im not pretending,try me & see,im in jax,fl,if you got someone for me send’em this way,im not hard to find.
‘Whites commit all manner of atrocities in this country and around the world”
name one, just(1) place on this whole gatdamn planet where the whites commit more crimes than the blacks by percentage of the population…
“You only care about white people being safe from black people. That is just DUMB. And, you only have this dumb ass belief because there is something in you that makes you not love yourself”
wow,this paragraph is wrong in so many ways.
1) if a white man rapes a black woman I say hand him over to the authorities,but when 20 black men rape a 11 yr old Hispanic girl in texas AL & Jesse show up & try to defend them,are you effin kidding me,how do u defend that,& b4 you try & say “she gave consent” 11 yr old girls cant “give consent”.
2)I love myself,but I love my people more,millions more just like me.it’s the new generation of of us,just wait,you’ll love it..
“This makes you feel like you are better than blacks, jews, liberals, democrats, Arabs, and Mexicans”.
jews,arabs & Mexicans don’t even fuc-ing like ya’ll,wtf you talking about.in L.A. Mexicans go around looking for blacks to shoot to rid their neighborhood,jews deny & deport Africans back to Africa everyday,the prime minister even said Israel will always be for the whiteman,Arabs still have African slaves so how did you come up with bullshit you write..them folks don’t like you,ha,ha you tried to sneak that one in…those are OUR allies,not yourn..
” The little Mexican lady” stop right there..
my girlfriend of 7 yrs is a Texan of Mexican heritage(texican).
so don’t try & tell me how they feel,trust me I know..
& I never said nothing about a racewar,where do you get this sh-t…
You refuse to stay on-topic. The guy was trying to tell you that whites are the victims of crimes perpetrated on ourselves by our OWN RACE far, far more often than by blacks. You keep using the numbers for white-on-black crimes, which, while admittedly lower, have nothing to do with the topic at hand.
At least you don’t pretend you’re not a racist, though. I’ll give you credit for your honesty.
stay on topic ? sh-t,i stayed on a bunch of topics,keep up or move out the way
http://www.thetruthaboutsouthafrica.com/p/white-genocide-in-south-africa.html
check it out..
Name one person I have attacked on here. I can name a bunch who have attacked me. In addition, those who agree with me have attacked no one. Seems all the attacks are coming from the right wingers…this is typical.
“Name one person I have attacked on here”. I don’t have to as I was taking issues with your statement that personal, ad hominem attacks are a Conservative trait.
Then why are you a democrat?
I am not a democrat as a matter of fact. I am an independent. I think both political parties and all the people who cling to them just so they can pick a side and feel like they are apart of something are the cause of the is nation having problems. This is NOT A COMPETITION for who is more right or wrong. This should not be a bunch of indoctrinated pawns ignoring facts,figures, and logic just because their parties say they should. All the rhetoric from democrats and republicans is used to make uninformed, emotionally immature, selfish, and childish people vote a certain way when the politicians couldn’t care less about what is really going on in this country. Politics is a career like any other, and these career criminals INTENTINALLY MISLEAD THEIR CONSTIUENTS just to keep their jobs. And you children keep falling for it! Sad
I am not a democrat. In fact, I am an Independent. These political parties and you people who can’t think for yourselves are the reason this country is having problems. I think we should destroy both political parties and just vote on the merits of each idea. The reason we can’t do that is because people are too lazy to get ALL THE FACTS before they make emotional, dumb ass decisions. Democrats get emotional about racism and how obstructionist Republicans are. Republicans get emotional about social issues like blacks, gays, Hispanics, poor people, women’s rights. And now since Obama is in office the economy worries Republicans..lol. Both sides have emotionally immature, selfish, uniformed, non-thinkers. I am happy not be affiliated with either.
Ah, an Independent. Sooo much better.
“Don’t you have a riot to get ready for?” No, you’re not at all racist, “Dallas!” Jesus…
It appears racism runs rampant with blacks. I believe blacks to be more racist than any other ethnic group. After a whole the race card gets old and warn out.
What you believe and what is true are obviously two completely different things. There is no such thing as the “race card”. Either there is racism…no matter who it is from…or there is NOT racism. And since we KNOW FOR A FACT that racism still exists in this country…calling attention to it is NOT A RACE CARD..it is simply pointing out injustice and inequality. If you think this country has an equal playing field for blacks and whites, I have some million dollar turds to sell you at a discount.
What you believe and what is true are two different things!
Exactly, Andre.
I’ve never seen that study, but a color blind society should deny either candidate a loan…
One last thing – you might want to read this little essay, written by Bill Cosby. I guess, in your opinion, he’s a racist too……
http://www.sodahead.com/living/bill-cosby-has-gone-and-done-it-again-comments-or-thoughts/question-3797027/?link=2864905&uuid=184dfef401234b3d94162cf76f1a90e6
Bill is talking about a specific group of black people who he KNOWS IS THE MINORITY among African-Americans in this country. The racists incorrectly believe the “poor performing” black people are the MAJORITY of black people in America because they are racists…lol
What makes you infer that Cosby’s piece is about “a specific group of black people that he KNOWS is the minority….” That’s a huge leap of faith that is based on your own bias.
Thn why doesn’t your perceived “majority” get out there and prove the “minority” wrong?
More lies! Islamic taqquiya!
I wish, Andre, with all my heart, that you were not the exception, and the majority…..then this article wouldn’t even exist.
I am the Majority, that is why this article is so unintelligent and obviously racist. Only 24% of African Americans live at or below the poverty level. That means 76% of us live above that! This means we are the majority.
Goose, the thing is …I AM THE MAJORITY. It is a myth that MOST black people are poor , on welfare, are unproductive and uneducated. In fact, about 76% of us live above the poverty line and are productive citizens. Why is it that this is so hard for people to believe?
What “Black Panthers?” The ones that were murdered or incarcerated out of existence in the late 1970s? Oh, you must be referring to “The New Black Panther Party,” which appears to be made up of about 5 to 7 attention-hungry guys, fellas who would have faded back into well-deserved obscurity, where it not for their being regularly carted out as Scary Negro Bugaboos by Fox “News,” et al.
And they are all Dems. http://www.black-and-right.com/the-democrat-race-lie/
Pouring acid into a pool was he? Hmmm, may I suggest you Google “swimming pool maintenance” and tell us what you find.
Hydrochloric Acid & Swimming Pools. … HCL is a basic requirement of swimming pool maintenance procedure. The acid should usually be added to water and mixed before dosing the pool.
He was pouring the acid in the water while people, specifically Black people, were in the pool…a segregated pool.
That was one instance 4 generations ago…nobody alive had that happen to them…no one alive was ever a slave and most whites in this country have had their roots here in the last fifty years…a very small number of American blacks are descended from a slave and a very small number of whites are descended from a slave holder…so get over it!
Your ignorant too
I don’t know a lot about ignorance, I’ll have to defer to your expertise…
That would be “You’re ignorant too.”
And, the KKK and the Jim Crow laws were Democrats…all southern Democrats filibustered against the civil rights act of 1964, republicans passed it..
.the only reason blacks became Democrats was Welfare…they vote for their free ride…most blacks are shitty parents and their kids aren’t much better…you didn’t move to the front of the progress bus, the black race in America got off the bus to pick up the welfare check.
Concentrated bleach and hydrochloric acid are REQUIRED to be added to swimming pools to keep them safe.
First you add the bleach, to get the chlorine levels right, but that raises the pH to dissolve-your-skin levels, so then hydrochloric acid is added TO MAKE THE POOL SAFE TO SWIM IN.
They don’t care. They just know there is “acid” on the label. It makes you a racist and it apparently makes Al’s and Jesse’s rabid rants less racist.
The DEMOCRATS started the KKK. Abraham Lincoln was a REPUBLICAN. Democrats SUPPORTED the Jim Crow laws.
You are right. Here’s a great site that shows all that history. The Dems are liars about race. http://www.black-and-right.com/the-democrat-race-lie/
What???? How many white people have blacks hung, raped, denied housing, denied loans, burned crosses in their yard, or kill just because of the color of their skin? How many of the almost 1 million KKK members have positions of power? There are 22 white supremacist groups. There are 4 black supremacist groups. There is NO COMPARISON who is the most racist in this country. Stop the madness.
Yes no comparison Blacks are the most racist people on the face of the earth and relics like you keep it going because you love it. You love being the victim. I wonder if this is Al Sharpton in disguise?
I love telling the truth. You hate facts and blacks equally it seems.
No I do not hate black people or any race and I do not believe you would know the truth if it hit you in the backside.
Larenzo, even if every black person in this country was racist, there would still be many more racist white people because black people only make up 12% of the population and Whites make up 72%. So there only needs to be 20% of the white population to be racist for there to be more white racists than actually black people in this country. And we KNOW there are more than 20% of the white population who are racist. Please be honest with yourself…lol
Where are these racist white people, these so-called “haters”?
You truly are not being honest with yourself also being simple minded. “I stated black are most racist” meaning They engage in racist conduct more than any other race really has little to do with numbers. But fact is you take one hundred blacks and one hundred whites and you would find more racist conduct among the one hundred blacks. White people do not even think that much about race for many black people it is all consuming and is the mainstay of there everyday life. You are not just dishonest you are ignorant. I could forgive the ignorance but not the dishonesty.
If I am being dishonest, then there is something that I said that was untrue. Please point out just 1 thing I said that was untrue and let’s tackle it. I suspect you will run from this challenge because I HAVEN’T said anything that is untrue..lol. This would be the second time in as many posts in which you misrepresented something I said (or didn’t say). Is this a pattern with you? The only dishonesty in our conversation is coming from you.
1)Let’s tackle racism. Black cops don’t brutalize and kill white people because of race. Black politicians do not try to keep white people from voting. Black neighborhoods don’t deny entry of whites. Black employers don’t deny white people jobs because of their race. Black judges don’t give white criminals 3 times the amount of time as black criminals (and that is just on average). Black bankers don’t deny white applicants because they are white. And Black teachers who teach in poor white trash schools don’t write essays about how poor white trash will never be anything other than poor white trash (even though their drop out rates and test scores are just as bad as poor black hoodlum schools). There are many other examples, but you get my point. White people in higher numbers AND in higher concentrations per 100 are racist. In fact, you all are so adept at indoctrination and assimilation that many BLACK people WISH they were white. I.e. Allen west, Clerance Thomas, Larry Elder, Herman Cain and many others who believe white is right. So, how is it possible for you to believe such nonsense as “blacks are the most racist” unless you yourself is a racist.
2) Racism is predicated on emotion, fear, ignorance and low self esteem that masks itself as pride. Do you know who I got that from? An Ex Grand Wizard of the KKK who lives here in Memphis. He told me that he KNEW that much of what he had his members believe about other races was BS. It was propaganda used to get people emotional so he could manipulate them. He knew they would not investigate what was being said and if anyone opposed the lies with facts they were just labeled as “N” loving traitors. Or just crazy. See the similarities in the political rhetoric? (different subject though). I said all of that to say that the only ignorance is your off based opinion that the group of people who have endured more racism than any group on this planet is now the perpetuators of the most racism in this country is not only illogical, it is a flat out lie. But, I am willing to hear the “reasons” you believe this, if you are so inclined to help me understand.
The second paragraph seems to fit you to a tee. You will never change.
Lol, typical right wing response….deflecting. But, yet another lie. I am willing to entertain the notion that I could be wrong. I will also amend what I believe to be true IF AND ONLY IF there are facts and logic presented that warrants such a change. You have presented neither facts, or no logic. And you IGNORE the facts and logic that I present. This can only mean that YOU are who the second paragraph is about, not me. Debate is the highest form of learning if both parties are honest. Don’t run now!
If you value honesty then you have to start by acknowledging the black community has a very serious problem. For over 40 years the black community has been blaming white racists for their problems and the result is yet another failed and lost generation of black youths who don’t even recognize that they’re not emulating “black” culture but rather redneck trash culture. Blacks are failing because of the bigotry and exploitation of other blacks and the white liberals who assuage their own racism by giving credence to obvious race baiters like Sharpton, Jackson, and Waters rather than confronting the harsh truths of their failed social programs. Honesty demands that you look at these failed schools and stop blaming the teachers, the government, history, and everyone else for the failure of these children and start looking to their families and the black culture that created them.
Most blacks will never accept responsibility. That would mean they’re wrong, and nothing angers a black who lives in a fantasy world then having the truth shown to him. Anyone who has lived with blacks know most blacks are like white liberals, their empty heads are full of conjectures and lies, their whole world view is based on BS, and if anything challenges the fantasy that they are morally better then everyone else drives them nuts. Look at Jonestown, those liberals wanted a race mixing left wing pradise and were willing to die to keep the illusion
Please explain who you mean by “most” blacks when 76% of us are successful and productive citizens. Thanks
You all deny that racism exist in America! That makes you delusional and unable to be trusted.
‘racis’ exist, Al Sharpton is proof of that, and that many blacks will get upset over a Hispanic man who shoots a black thug who is banging his head on the sidewalk who is called a white man by the lying media and do nothing about the level of black on black crime other then say “white people do it too”.
What do I care about your trust? You’re an idiot.
Over seventy people shot in Chicago over Fourth weekend You were not honest trying to compare poor whites. They do not engage in anywhere near the violence that blacks do but if you cannot see that your community as black people like to refer to it will never see anything different. The violence in the black community far outstrips the poorest of whites all you have to do is look at the Justice Department stats. I want there to be just one community where race is not the main subject on peoples minds it should be there children and setting examples. There are fine black men working every day in law enforcement risking there life to set that example but all you live for is race it is all consuming. Now I am done with this conversation with you because I do not believe you want anything better. I think you are just happy in your self deceiving racial hatred. The white man does not spend his day trying to figure out a way to get you and if you do not get what you want and your way on everything it does not mean someone is being racist.
You are done with this conversation because I am making it difficult for you to spout of racial prejudice based on ignorance. You keep denying that racism exists in this country. That is just insanity..lol. But when I give facts that support that you are looking through a prejudice lens you return to the personal attacks on me. This is common from the overly emotional, so it doesn’t really bother me.
As for the crime in the POOR black communities, I agree we are a number of times more violent. I never denied that. It is a problem, just like 24% poverty rate being double that of white people is a problem. There are many problems in our poor black communities, but the one common denominator is POOR. It is an economic issue for the 100th time. It is not a color of skin issue. Of course we are more aggressive physically than most other cultures. But, you all only bring that up to indict us. You don’t really care about black people killing black people. In fact, some of you love it. But this debate was not about CRIME..it was about education. And poor educational habits are NOT a color thing. If it were then Oregon, West Virginia, and Alaska would have higher graduation rates since there are miniscule amounts of black people in either of those states.
Btw, I went to a highschool with only about 9% black students. I have at least 300 white friends. It may be more than that…let me check my facebook page..lol. My son’s godfather is white. My god children are white. My best friend in the world is white. I have white ex-girlfriends. So, please don’t play the “you are racist” game just because I point out racism when I see it. That’s like saying when a bystander witnesses a crime, if he reports it he must be a criminal too…smh.
I never said racism does not exist another lie by you I said the opposite and gave facts. I am not very emotional on anything you are just another race hustler.
What the hell is a race hustler? lol. Let me get this straight. Did you NOT SAY that racism doesn’t play a significant role in the lives of black people in the U.S anymore?
Well the jury has spoken they were deliberative and went over each count asking even for list of evidence and further instruction. Not guilty on 2nd degree murder and not guilty on the manslaughter charge that the prosecution sandbagged them with at the end of the defense case. There will be complaints filled against the unethical prosecutors and judicial misconduct against the judge. There was never a case that should have been filed and the press is wakening up to the fact they were used tools which might be a miracle. Never had a case to begin with and they knew it. That is a period at the end of the paragraph.
The jury considered Trayvon a second class citizen from the jump. Just like you consider black people second class citizens. With that being said, I am not surprised. I even bet money that the jury would get it wrong and vote for not guilty. The reason I made that bet is 60% of all cases decided by juries are decided WRONG. A black lady gets 20 years for firing a WARNING shot after being beaten by an abusive husband who she had an order of protection against. Zimmerman goes free. This is the divide in this country. Not those of us (all races) calling attention to the injustice.
Oh, and I agree the Prosecution tanked the case because they didn’t believe Zimmerman was guilty but brought charges because of media attention.
Pathetic any excuse for being a racist. Good luck maybe you can be Al Sharpton’s replacement.
He went free because there was reasonable doubt that he intended to kill Trayvon. There was also doubt as to what Trayvon intended to do to Zimmerman. It fell under self defense.
People are now looting, destroying property and hurting others because they didn’t like the verdict. This does not correct anything and promotes hate.
We only have George’s word for it and he lied about 12 other things. The evidence also doesn’t support his story, but the prosecution did a horrible job because they didn’t even offer an alternative to what George said. How could he take a gun out, take it off of safety, cock it, and reach up to Trayvon’s chest while getting his head bashed and Trayvon not try to grab the gun and wrestle it from George since GZ was such a weakling?
Who is denying racism exists? Not me. All the more reason to stop with the coddling and prepare these children for what they will face. i don’t deny that in many cases a person of color (and that’s many colors by the way) has to work harder and so better than a white person to earn respect from some racists. But instead of getting these kids ready for those real-life battles, we are setting them up for failure. We are letting them behave in a way that keeps them (and white children caught up in those classes) from getting the tools they will need to fight that racism. Stop crying “poor victims” and instead prepare them for battle.
I agree 100%. I haven’t advocated “coddling” anyone. I merely said that the author of this essay had a prejudice against black people before he started teaching there. This can be ascertained by the sweeping indictment he makes. There are PLENTY of inner city youth who get good educations and go on to college or other successes in life. To be exact 76%. So, although I believe this 24% need some help, guidance, and discipline. I don’t consider it a “black” problem when Alaska and West Virginia have only 68% graduation rates and they are overwhelmingly white states.
Well coddling is what the author is against. I don’t see how his essay shows he was prejudiced before he started teaching. I see a man who has tried and been beaten down by a system that let’s children go uneducated out of political correctness.
There may be plenty of inner city youth who receive a high school diploma, but they aren’t receiving a good education.
A graduation rate is a useless statistic when you have teachers and school systems that will just pass a child so they don’t have to deal with them.
It is a poor assumption that they aren’t getting a good education when they attend the same colleges that suburban kids attend and graduate. I agree the education is not as good as the affluent communities but is that they fault of the student? For the 100th time…this issue is more economic than racial. This is easy to see if you compare the drop out rates and TEST SCORES of poor white communities like in Alaska and West Virginia. I am not sure WHY you all want to deny this.
Honesty demands that you assign the same rate of failure to the poor white trash in America who outnumber “ghetto” blacks ppl by 4 to 1. Honesty demands that you acknowledge the TRUTH in numbers that say only 24% of black population live at or below the poverty line. That means that 76% of African-Americans are successful and productive citizens. Yet you racist are speaking in generalizations and stereotypes as if THE VAST MAJORITY OF BLACKS IN AMERICA HAVE A PROBLEM. Your beliefs are colored by propaganda and ignorance..not facts. So anytime ANY OF YOU want to discuss FACTS and not BS…please let me know. I welcome the conversation.
You clearly don’t welcome the conversation. Your blanket assumption that everyone on this thread is a racist speaks volumes. White Americans outnumber black Americans, period. Statistically, however, black Americans have the highest illegitimacy rate and the highest poverty rate in America. The illegitimacy rate for blacks is 72%. The correlation between illegitimacy and poverty is well-documented. 39% of black children in America meet the federal government’s definition of poor. That is a fact. The breakdown of the black family has been devastating for the black community but it is NEVER discussed by the so-called “leadership” of the black community. Instead we hear nothing but cries of racism, and your responses throughout this thread are Exhibit A of that fact. http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/tables/44-children-in-poverty-by-race-and-ethnicity?loc=1&loct=2#detailed/1/any/false/867,133,38,35,18/10,11,9,12,1,185,13/323,324 http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_05.pdf
Do you all lie and exaggerate when it suits you, just to try to win an argument? I didn’t say “everyone on this thread is a racist”. I didn’t say that because everyone on this thread is not racist, especially since some agree with me. Second, even if someone disagrees with me doesn’t make them racist. I am only speaking to the actual racists on this thread. If 72% of blacks are born illegitimate but 74% of us don’t live in poverty how is there a direct correlation? Even if you come up with some way to make the correlation. If you all are not “focusing on race” and don’t believe “white people are superior”, why are you all not condemning the poor whites who outnumber poor blacks? In fact there are 14 million more poor white people than poor black people. Here is the census numbers on poverty.
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/publications/Appendix_Tables1-24.pdf
Some basic arithmetic: 100% – 24% = 76% not 86%
As it happens, most of the black people I know are reasonable, seem to be ordinary middle class people, but then I live in a middle class neighborhood and work at a profession that requires intellectual ability and self discipline.
However, when it comes to dealing with people who are not known personally to me, John Derbyshire’s advice seems the most prudent course.
http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_nonblack_version_john_derbyshire/print#axzz2YOYSNGoT
I thought I corrected my math before you posted this, but if not, my apologies.
As for this article, the author is racist..lol. It is hard to believe that otherwise intelligent people believe such nonsense. But, I guess if just 50 years ago the majority of this country still believed black people were less than human, convincing white people should avoid crowds of us should be an easy sell. And for the record, there are at least 5% of whites who would harm blacks for no other reason than we are black. Now let’s do the numbers. 5% of white people is about 10 million people. 5% of black people is 2 million. Who is in more danger?
Because of over use, the charge of racism really doesn’t cut much ice any more. Yes, it can still get somebody fired but I am not sure how much longer that will continue to be true. When I hear that term, it is just noise.
According to Department of Justice statistics, white people are in more danger from black criminals than black people are in danger from white criminals, despite the difference in size of the two populations. Of course, statistically, white people are in more danger from white criminals and black people are in much, much more danger from black criminals.
Chuck, do black people get brutalized and/or killed by police more often than white people? Do black people get 3 times as much time in jail for the exact same offenses? Do black people get denied interviews just for having black sounding names on resumes? Do black people get denied loans with the exact same credit scores as their white counterparts?
Now, I doubt very seriously that black people get fired because they are black after they get hired. I doubt that because once given an opportunity it is incumbent on the person to capitalize on it. The simple fact is, we have to be better than you all to get the same opportunities. This is not an excuse or a reason to underachieve in the black community. It is just a fact of life. None of us who have achieved are under the impression that black people will be considered equals by everyone. That is clear by this essay and all of the replies that I have received on here. We just expect that the hearts and minds of GOOD PEOPLE don’t perpetuate or believe lies and myths in order to continue to demonize a people who have been treated less than human for 500 years and have overcome a lot. Poor people (regardless of race) should not be demonized. The right wingers have made a career of this and in addition demonizing black people panders to the prejudice that has existed in this country since it’s inception and STILL EXISTS.
Do black people get brutalized or killed by police more often than white people? It wouldn’t surprise me although I have not seen any statistics on it. Police tend to concentrate their activities in high crime areas which, for whatever reason, tend to be primarily black. I have noticed that when black men drive, they almost never exceed the speed limit and they stop fully at every stop sign. I assume that there is a reason for this and that it may well have been learned from harsh experience.
Do black people get three times as much prison time for the same offense? Once again, I would like to see that statistic. When it comes time for sentencing, judges tend to look at previous history and people who have been in trouble with the law before tend to get sent away for a longer time. This is actually part of a policy that was developed by Ruben Greenberg, the black, Jewish police chief of Charleston, South Carolina. He found that most crimes are committed by a relatively small group of people and that most violent crimes are committed by a subset of that group so by tracking the repeat criminals and keeping that small group locked up as long as possible, fewer people were victims of crime.
Do black people get denied home loans with the same credit scores as white people? For a while I worked as a mortgage broker and if you think any mortgage broker would turn down a chance to make a commission on a loan due to racism, you are seriously underestimating the greed of that profession.
Are resumes rejected because the applicant has a black sounding name. Almost certainly. Look at the risks and rewards from the employer’s point of view. First off, there is the experience of Affirmative Action. A black person with a degree might be qualified but maybe not. There is also the issue of racial discrimination suits. If a white employee does not work out for whatever reason or no reason, an employer can fire him and that is pretty much the end of it. If an employer wishes to fire a black employee, that employer had better consult with a lawyer first and collect an air tight paper trail documenting the just cause for termination that will stand up in court. In today’s economy where every job opening gets dozens, if not hundreds of resumes, which ones do you think an employer is going to pitch into the waste basket first? The thing that would help black people more than anything else would be a healthy economy and the new EPA regulations announced today on top of the costs and uncertainty of Obamacare guarantee that we will not see a healthy economy any time soon.
Any fact you disapprove of will be called ‘racis’ and ignored. Yes, pretend you can learn and grow, but you’re stunted.
Caiden…let’s put that to the test. Present just ONE fact! lol Let’s see if it is a fact, and if it is unbiased.
You just lost me here, because I am a tea party member and disagree strongly with Obama and Jackson.
No, you’re not. You are dishonest as well as a victim of your own propaganda.
Go home. Your imagined pain is no credential here.
Blacks are far crueler to each other than Whites ever were.
You sold each other into slavery.
You get no traction.
Dallas, all you have to do is name ONE THING THAT IS UNTRUE IN ANY OF THE POSTS THAT I HAVE TYPED. This is the second time I have made that challenge. I suspect you will avoid it again. Why do you avoid it? Because NOTHING I HAVS SAID IS FALSE. Not one statement. So you can continue with the rhetoric , lies, and deflection, but as soon as you back up the things you say with facts we can have a civil conversation. I doubt that will happen though, because racist, right wingers HATE CIVIL CONVERSATIONS…lol. You would rather make personal attacks than logical arguments with supporting evidence.
Yes Africans sold Africans into slavery, but 50% of all slaves from Africa were not sold…THEY WERE STOLEN OR TAKEN BY FORCE! Now let’s address how ridiculous that justification is. Are the white people who buy underage prostitutes from other white people any less evil because white people are selling them?
If you were NOT racist, you would be objective about race relations and plights in America. But since you can’t be objective you just attack me and other black people who are telling the truth. Funny and sad at the same time.
No backing to the fact that you state about 3x the penalty for blacks opposed to whites?
Your ‘trump card’? C’mon Andre.
http://education.alaska.gov/Stats/DropoutRates/DropoutRatesByDistrict.pdf
http://www.ati.aum.edu/docs/default-source/2010-white-papers/alabama-drop-out-rate-final-draft.pdf?sfvrsn=2
There’s one for the record books, it looks like Alaska’s rate of dropouts is around 5%… How’s that make them so high in poor schooling? For the record, it looks more like 50-60% white, 20-30% Native American and a much smaller % for the remaining minorities. Not really a landslide of race there. What would be the primary big money , no college jobs in Alaska, anyways, Andre? I’d wager Oil and fishing, neither of which take a lot more than on the job training produces, why would most kids WANT to do well, when they can work those jobs and get paid better than you or I?
Also, Alabama’s rate of graduation is more like 70%… there’s failure everywhere, and it’s NOT race, it’s our education system, sir.
Equally hating since the third grade, Yours truly.
I agree …I have said at least ten times that economics effect education much more than race. Take for instance Texas that is number 51 in graduation rate of high school, yet it is 80% white and only 12% black. You are exactly right.
To begin with I do not have time for debate but I will add this Just about every FFJ I ever served where a murder charge was involved the subject was black male that had killed another black male. Zimmerman is a rarity and by pretty much the prosecutions own case was in self defense. See the murder of (Channon Christian and Christopher Newsome). There are more white people murdered by blacks than whites that murder blacks even though the black population is only twelve percent of the population. It was Jesse Jackson that said when he was walking down the street when he would see another black male coming in his direction he became unsettled or felt fear! All you need do is refer yourself to the DOJ crime stats. You have twelve percent of the population where thirty three percent or higher is involved in the justice system either in jail, prison, probation, parole, or currently being adjudicated and it is getting worse. Black males have abandoned there duties as husbands or fathers. The black family used to be the strongest family unit in this nation and LBJ and Democrats destroyed it. By the way it is not getting any better your idol in the Whitehouse has only made it worse. The advance of young black flash mobs that engage in more violent conduct is increasing. I served and worked with decent black men that understood what was happening but you never will all you are is an excuse maker that is perverting the dream of MLK which was not to turn the US into another South Africa. I will do all I can to set my house in order I would suggest you do the same because they are really the same house.
You have NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT…lol.. I am not an Obama supporter for one. You assume I am because I am black…i.e. You are a racist! lol. Yes there is a larger portion of black ppl in the justice system than others..but only because we are the poorest. If you research poor white trash, and poor black people you will find that crime, education, parenting, and other attitudes are very similar. You WANT poor black people to be worse than poor white people only because you are white. If that is not bias i don’t know what is. Name ONE excuse I have made. FACTS DO NOT EQUAL EXCUSES. It is a FACT that black people get 3 times the amount of time in prison for the same crime as a white person. It is a FACT that a black person is 11 times more likely to experience police brutality. It is a FACT that just having a black NAME ON A RESUME mean you get 3 times FEWER interviews than a white person. These are not excuses. They are documented facts. You want to ignore them because you don’t care about facts, you just care about how you feel. Well let me be the first to tell you that how you feel means diddly squat in the real world. You can continue to believe BS because you makes you feel better than “most” black people. But when you REALLY look at how many poor white trash there are in America..and how many of them feel like they are better than successful black Americans like Colin Powell, Magic Johnson, Bob Johnson, Oprah Winfrey , etc…then you will understand that how you feel about black people has NOTHING TO DO WITH FACTS, and everything to do with indoctrination of the ignorant and emotional.
You have a bad habit of calling everyone racist Andre….did you read the article????
Kaye, I don’t call “everyone” racist. I haven’t called you racist. I only call people racist who make RACIST REMARKS. Would you it like a few examples? Most black kids are drop outs = racist because that is not true. Most black fathers are deadbeats = racist because that is not true. Most black people are ghetto = racist because that is not true. Most black people live in poverty = racist because that is not true. Black people are the most racist = racist because that is just ridiculous…lol. There are several other examples of racist statements just on this thread. I call a spade a spade (pun intended).
Here is the question I have. Why do racists (or just really prejudiced people) deny it?
As an English Teacher, those are not wholly ‘racist’ remarks. Factually,they are generalizations that are based upon racial stereotypes.
You truly throw the racist word out far too frequently for it to have real effect.
Love and hugs from an equal opportunity hater!
Andre
Most white people would like nothing better than for the pathologies that are present in such abundance in the black population were imaginary.
Some of the problems can be explained as a consequence of children being raised by never married mothers – a circumstance that is associated with much higher rates of prison incarceration, drug abuse, low rates of high school graduation and high rates of illegitimacy in every race. On the other hand, the homicide rate for blacks in the United States is nine times the rate for whites. Blacks are less than 13% of the US population but blacks commit more than 50% of the homicides in this country according to statistics collected by the Department of Justice.
I wish it were otherwise. I wish I knew a solution. One thing that I know for certain is that blaming whites for black problems has not worked all that well and calling whites racist is unlikely to improve things.
First, poor black people have the same graduation rate as poor white people. It is not about race. It is about economics. The problem is that there are more poor black people by percentage and you all are hypersensitive to the propaganda about it. The reason we know this is because there are 14 million more poor white people in this country than poor black people. Yet, there are NO complaints about the 25 million poor white people but such disdain, disgust, and distrust of the only 9 million poor black people. Why such a disproportionate focus on poor black people? In addition there are myths that say MOST black people are poor, ghetto, criminal, or good for nothing. The fact is that the vast majority of black people are productive, successful citizens.
As for the problems facing the black community, I agree there needs to be a solution…the solution is simple. We need more financial literacy and education. EVERY PROBLEM IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY CAN BE SOLVED BY MONEY except two: 1) Loving each other is not economic. 2) Some white people will NEVER consider us equal. Now, number 2 does not matter to me, but you would be surprised how many black people want to be accepted and assimilated by white people.
The thing is, it seems disingenuous from most white people because they really don’t care that we are killing each other, yet they use the crime stats to justify their prejudice. Strange.
Well, as you say a lot of it is a matter of perception. No complaints about the behavior of poor white people? I guess it depends on the circles in which you travel. One difference, though. The poor choices and bad behavior of white people that tend to result in them living in shabby trailer parks in less prosperous rural areas or locked up in prison are generally not excused by a professional grievance industry. White people who screw up are usually viewed as responsible for their own misfortune.
I disagree that every problem in the black community can be solved by money. As a society we have been trying that approach since Lyndon Johnson was President and it has not worked. I would suggest that many of the problems in the black community would be solved by a much more widespread adopting of bourgeois attitudes and values and a rejection of “authentic” or “ghetto” lifestyle and behavior. The boring middle class habits of delayed gratification, education, thrift, work and avoiding violent confrontation generally work for anybody who applies them. Unless you are typing this from prison, I suspect that you apply them in your own life.
As for the charge that white people don’t care that blacks are killing each other, I feel certain that whites would be happy to execute blacks who murder other blacks at the same rate that whites who murder other whites are executed but the political reality is that black politicians, left wing activists and ACLU lawyers make that politically impossible. Considering that young black men in Detroit, Chicago, New Orleans or DC would be statistically safer if they joined the Army and served in Iraq or Afghanistan even during the peak of the fighting, that is a sad comment on our society. If there were widespread support in the black community for the idea that black murderers who kill black people should be executed for their crimes, there would be more black people who live long enough to die of old age instead of murder.
You misunderstood me. I said nothing of the government offering money to the black community. Poor people (regardless of race) are terrible stewards of money. So, “giving” them more is a horrible idea. I am saying those of us who are good with money and have applicable education on economic growth have to teach the poor financial literacy. Almost every person in this country is affected by money in more ways than they understand. This is especially true of the poor. But, even for the middle class who don’t understand that politics are all about money. Religion is about money. Relationships are affected by money. Work ethic, education, personal security, moral code, health, our personal time, and even how children are raised ARE ALL AFFECTED BY MONEY! So, with all due respect, we will have to agree to disagree about what will change the plight of the poor black community.
As for white people who are held accountable for their decisions and circumstances, that is because they have EVERY advantage needed to achieve. Nobody turns white people down for jobs because they are white. Nobody “assumes” white people are violent just because of the color of their skin. Nobody denies them loans, credit, access to “good” education. Nobody demonizes poor white people. Now although all of these things happen to black people, 74% still rise above it. I agree 100% that we need to do something about the other 26%. That solution is financial literacy. But, unfortunately when we get the rate of poverty down to 11% like white people, we will still be demonized more. It is part of the fabric of the people who founded this country. It won’t go away any time soon. Sad But true.
Btw, the majority of the middle class (regardless of race) are terrible at delaying gratification, thrift, and money management. Their educations are average, and they only avoid confrontation (physical or verbal) because most people are cowards. This is why GUNS HYSTERIA RUNS RAMPANT IN AMERICA. If people were truly brave we could have verbal confrontations when there is disagreement WITHOUT physical violence and definitely without gun fire.
And thank you for agreeing that white people couldn’t care less about black people killing themselves. You all only focus on it because it justifies your prejudice.
Because money solves so many problems, it is a common mistake to think that it will solve all problems. Money does keep some people from experiencing the full consequences of their bad choices. For example, someone who inherited a great deal of money and proceeded to drink himself to death but, thanks to his inherited money, did not die in a gutter in skid row.
People don’t have to be great at delaying gratification, thrift and money management, they just need to be good enough. For example, if someone can put off having babies until after graduating high school, they will probably have more money and a better life than someone who does not.
Is it cowardice to wish to avoid being killed over some pointless dispute? Back when dueling was common, many or even most people thought so. I try to avoid interacting with people who are easily offended, have a real short fuze and prone to violence. If that makes me a coward, so be it. However, I like to trade ideas with people who don’t always agree with me because I enjoy the process and sometimes I even learn something.
I did not say that white people couldn’t care less about black people killing each other. It is more a matter or accepting the limits of what is possible. Between “snitches get stitches” and overwhelming black disapproval of capital punishment as well as persistent jury nullification where black jurors refuse to send another young black man to prison despite the evidence against him and the fact that the victim was also black, white people have basically thrown up their hands and said, “If this is what you want, this is what you can have.” When black people decide that they want black criminals who commit crimes against black victims to be punished, the rest of society will be happy to oblige. As long as black people protect black criminals who commit crimes against black victims, there is really not much that the rest of us can do about it.
“Nobody turns white people down for jobs because they are white.”
What about the fire fighters who took a test and didn’t recieve a promotion because the blacks scored too low on the test. Boston area I think.
Before Black people complain about society and racism they should take a look in the mirror and fix the problems that prevent them from being successful.
Blacks commit crimes at a higher rate that any other group. This includes being 35 times more likely to commit murders. Then they complain when they can’t get jobs because no one wants to hire a felon. This isn’t the fault of whites, society or racism.
A large percentage of Blacks don’t seem to value education. They don’t try and no one can make them learn. Those that do are derided and called Oreos or too white. It’s not someone elses fault that they don’t try to learn that they don’t work for their education.
Somethiing like 72% of all black households are headed by single women. Children need both a father and a mother to have the best chance at success. It’s not racism that causes this. It is a choice that blacks make.
These factors are complete under control of the individual and are the reason many blacks are stuck in poverty. They are not a result of racism, but of the choices blacks make. They need to stop blaming others for their failings and change their own attitudes and behavior if they want to improve their lives.
Likely, those that give interviews and loans don’t see whites as those things because there are not walking stereotypes of the white people out there making us look bad by default.
YOUR racist behavior is expecting that these actions taken are with malicious intent.
I seriously doubt that those loan officers are smirking and high-fiving each other as the middle class black man walks away in rejection, saying ‘Yeah, Slim, we gots us another one down!’
THAT’S RACIST THINKING.
But I doubt that’s what’s going on.
There are far too many blacks that front up a bad name for the black public in general. Just like there are whites that give YOU the wrong ideas about US.
Just hate equally, friends… no bias.
I am not sure why my posts are not showing up anymore. Conspiracy maybe? lol I had already responded to this. Sorry it seemed like I avoided it.
First, it is your PERCEPTION based on stereotypes and propaganda that all black people who make poor choices have excuses made for them. This is not the case at all. NOBODY and I mean NOBODY (except maybe parents of the offender) makes excuses for black people who make poor choices and get FAIR punishment for it. Nobody makes excuses for the black person who does a horrible job at work and gets fired. Nobody makes excuses for people not looking for work or continually having babies out of wedlock. The grievance industry, as you refer to it, has grievances about FAIRNESS AND EQUALITY not being the standard in so many aspects of our lives. If a white person with no priors gets a distribution of narcotics charge and a black person with NO PRIORS gets charged with the same thing…the black person gets 3 times as much jail time. That deserves to be challenged. If a white person sends in a very qualified resume and a black person sends in a very qualified resume but has a black sounding name (like Jamal), the white person gets TWICE as many interviews. There are many other examples but you get my point. We are not trying to protect scum…which is somehow what you all get from our grievances. We are trying to LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD. This draws so much disdain and vitriol that it baffles us as to why white people object so strenuously to a level playing field. Can you please explain?
As for white people caring about black people getting killed. I am not commenting on what type of punishment that the criminal gets. I am fine with whatever punishment a killer gets, up to and including death. I am saying WHITE PEOPLE don’t care about THE BLACK PEOPLE GETTING KILLED. Any time we bring up the injustice system, white people throw out black on black crime stats. Why? If you don’t care about the people getting killed and you definitely don’t care about that the black people going to jail. Why bring it up? Is it just to try to disparage and demean an entire race with the actions of a few? It is an attempt at justification for being racist (that is to say, believe that white people are inherently better than black people)? I can tell you what it is not…it is not a sincere concern for a solution to the problems in the black communities.
You also misunderstood what I meant by MONEY WILL SOLVE ALMOST EVERY PROBLEM IN THE POOR BLACK COMMUNTIES. I am not talking welfare.lol. I am not talking crumbs given to they poor who are just trying to feed their families. I am talking wealth building. I am talking financial literacy and economic change that would keep the black communities from being poor. This is NOT going to come from the government. It is going to come from those of us who have accumulated some measure of wealth and seek to educate the poor on why there are differences between the poor and the rich. It will require pooling of resources and an attitude change about long term goals rather than short term gratification. How do I know this will work; Because affluent black communities all across this country DONT HAVE THE PROBLEMS THAT THE POOR BLACK COMMUNTIES DO. There is almost no crime, much better schools and students, very little teen pregnancy, high home ownership and community pride, and villages raising the children. So, if it holds true for these black people, it stands to reason that if we change the economic status of poor people (black and white) we also impact the problems that plague them.
Btw, the middle class is horrible at delaying gratification and thrift. That is why they have huge credit card debt, very little wealth accumulation, and living paycheck to paycheck. Just a side note.
Well, first here’s a link to a story from a suburb of Rochester, NY. http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top_stories/490926/jury-finds-roderick-scott-not-guilty/
Mr.Scott and his family are shown in the picture. The late Mr.Cervini was white. This is just a local story and the family of the dead youth are saying the things that the families of dead youths always say. Nobody else is particularly upset.
I wish you luck in trying to teach financial responsibility. It is all too rare and increasing the fraction of the population who have some will make the world a better place.
Actually, I would like to just give a bunch of wealth to black people in the United States in the form of 40 acres apiece for slavery reparations. This is not because I think that black people deserve slavery reparations but because it is the most politically feasible way to transfer millions of acres into the private sector and out of the federal government. If oil companies could go to the black people owning 40 acres of ANWR asking them to sell the right to drill for oil or to the people owning land with natural gas that could be extracted by fracking, the energy problems of this country would be over and a whole lot of people would have the problem of wealth preservation rather than wealth accumulation.
Andre, Andre, Andre, SHOW YOUR WORK.
Where are your FACTS for this point you continually make about blacks getting three times harsher punishment than whites? You’ve blown that one up so much, that at the time of writing this, I’m gonna ignore that statement until I can see some proof, as it seems like you’ve just pulled some number that fits your argument from your head.
I can do that too, you know…
I am 83% more likely to be loved and cuddled because I offer hate in even doses to all peoples of race creed and ethnicity.
Again you are right, why do all of these Black Actors never speak up and out, becuz they want to be accepted by their fellow white actors. Yet, very few Black females are being hired in the field who is mostly controlled by White Liberals….”I do disagree with you on the statement of “every problem in the black community can be solved by money.” we have more thieves in our community than any other. Just look at Detroit and the list goes on, mostly all of the Reps from black communities has stolen from it. Jesse Jackson being one of the biggest.
“First, poor black people have the same graduation rate as poor white people.”
False.
“It is not about race. ”
False
“It is about economics.”
True, but it’s also about race. And economics is about race itself…just not in the way you believe that it is.
“Why such a disproportionate focus on poor black people?”
Well, that’s fairly obvious and simple, and West Virginia is the perfect illustration. It’s consistently the poorest, or one of the poorest, states in the nation. It also has consistently the lowest, or one of the lowest, crime rates. It also happens to be overwhelmingly white.
Lol, just because you say something is true or false doesn’t make it the case. Alaska has double the crime rate and a worse graduation than West Virginia…and it has more white people by percentage. How do you explain that?
Affluent black schools have as high a graduation rate as any schools in the nation. In fact there are 4 all black schools who have a 100% graduation rate and 100% college acceptance rate. Here in Memphis the public school with the most High School grads, highest test scores, and most scholarship money is a predominately black school. So, if it is about race, How do you explain that?
We have thrown millions of dollars and things have gotten worse in many cases Andre! MONEY CAN NEVER SOLVE the lack of self respect! It will also NEVER solve character flaws that some people believe about themselves ie; I deserve to have everything handed to me and I do NOT have to work as hard as others to get ahead! Use your examples, Powell, Johnson, Rice, Cain etc, they did not have things handed to them, they worked their butts off to get ahead! ANYONE born in America, regardless of skin color, has the SAME same opportunities, many simple refuse to EXPECT OF THEMSELVES to do the work that it would require! They lack SELF MOTIVATION! That is not a skin color problem but a self respect problem that No amount of money will EVER resolve!
This teacher is NOT RACIST I. Her article but was simply pointing out WHAT SHE OBSERVED! The children in her classes need parents that care and will teach their children respect for authority! Many parents have no self respect themselves so they simply cannot teach what they do not possess . I have grown up around people of color and just their simple dialect and the “way” they speak put them at a disadvantage, however, WHAT can the teacher do? If they reprimand the student for their lack of grammar and spelling skills, they have the racism card thrown at them! This truely IS A HEART ISSUE! One cannot teach self respect, it has to be lived and be examples by the parents! And please don’t tell me that poor black children have parents who have to work sometimes more then one job and cannot be there or are too tired to teach their children properly, I worked two full time jobs while going to college to be able to bring myself out of that trailer trash as you so eloquently called us! MY children respect themselves, got a good education even tho they didn’t go to the best schools! I MADE TIME TO HELP THEM! THEIR FATHER MADE TIME FOR THEM! Whe children have parents who care and make time for them, they are less likely to get into trouble, they learn to speak properly because nothing less was acceptable! Tell the parents of these kids who speak this Ebonics crap that THEY ARE HINDERING THEIR CHILDREN, not the school! It is STILL the parents job to raise their children, not the public school OR the government! NO AMOUNT of money will fix a heart and respect problem, proper parenting will!
You apparently didn’t read what I wrote. Le me reiterate. POOR WHITE KIDS ARE JUST AS BAD IN SCHOOL AT POOR BLACK KIDS. Alaska and West Virginia on have 68% graduation rates. They are over 95% white states. So please take your bias and prejudice and try to temper it with some FACTS. There are poor black schools in San Fran that have 100% graduation rates and 100% college acceptance rates. But those are statistical anomalies. That FACT is that affluent BLACK SCHOOLS are just as good in testing and graduation as affluent white schools. Why don’t affluent black communities have the crime and poor education stats than poor black communities have? Because MONEY MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN EDUCATION. Any person not willing to see that is being willfully ignorant because of emotion. And for the record, my son speaks ebonics and raps. He also graduated from high school a year early with honors, got an academic scholarship, and has 16 college credits before he steps foot on the campus. You all “perception” of our culture is stereotyped prejudice. It is partly based on the 500 year tradition of hating black people and partly based on myth.
Let me ask you a pretty telling question: How would your life be adversely effected if you decided you loved all black people?
Andre, from personal experience? I’d say that I don’t complain about the 25 million poor whites because the worst they seem to do (in my areas of living, Ca. Or. Az.) is get high and steal petty stuff. Little to no rapes, or anything else. That really goes for blacks, too, not many examples I can dredge up from my memory banks.
Yet the issue remains that when I SEE A BLACK YOUTH WITH HIS PANTS AROUND HIS KNEES TALKING LIKE A BACKWARDS RETARD, I tend to look towards generalizations about black youths. That’s not racism, it’s generalization, and a fallacy of generalization at best.
You’re also looking at a majority of people that don’t live in highly black neighborhoods, or cities. Just simple facts that I can pull from my noggin.
More equal opportunity hatin’ from yours truly.
No! we assume this because you spout off the same crap that either he or the average supporter believes.
Andre, I will give you some facts I have experienced in dealing with black people. First off the writer of the article represents my lifelong dealing with the majority of blacks.
I retired from the military 13 years ago. I spent 22 years working with soldiers. Whenever I had trouble with a black soldier, the soldier would scream racism, even if I told them to get a hair cut.
Now that I run my own business, I deal with all races. I have been stiffed by black merchants 10 to 1 when it comes to owing money and this is when blacks on 5% to 10% of the businesses I service. They are poor money managers.
I also own a rent house and my black tenants moved out without notice. My realtor even went by the house this past week to ask them how things were going and if the rumor was true about them moving. They lied to her face and moved out 3 days later. I am waiting to find out if they trashed the place when the left or I can rent it right away.
My wife sold real estate, a highly regulated industry, and the credit scores for blacks was significantly worse than all other races. This is tragic because contrary to your belief, the majority of whites want complete integration and are very tired of listening to you whine about perceived racism. Blacks get treated worse because they act worse.
I also deal with a lot of immigrants. Blacks from Africa and the Caribbean shake their heads in disgust at American blacks. They come to America and succeed despite all of this racism you experience.
Read the article, refute it with your facts.
Andre, when a black man competes against a majority white field with competence and bravado and wins in a fair competition, he is celebrated for that achievement. Just ask NHRA Champion Nitro Dragster driver Antron Brown. Antron Brown Racing
http://antronbrown.com/
Achievement is the keyword above. Blacks must have a desire to achieve great things in spite of any perceived racial handicap they may suffer from. A desire to win, to rise above, and to do it for his own sake. The individual starts with what is available and works with what he has to succeed, in spite of race or social station, but the desire must be there first.
Bruce, I agree 100% and MOST of us do, contrary to popular belief. I am just challenging this MYTH that most black ppl are degenerate, uneducated, criminals like most people on this post believe. And even when we do rise above the racial and social disadvantages, we are still characterized as “having a big problem”. The fact that most of us rise does not mean it is “ok” for the racial prejudice and inequality to exist. The consent of most of those conversing with me on this post is either racism doesn’t exist or even if it does we should just ignore it..lol. Surely you can agree neither of these should be prevailing theories right?
Once the victim mentality is seen by the subject as having the unassailable high ground in any argument, they never let it go.
My ancestors were persecuted as well, but I don’t use it as one of the pillars of my personality.
Poor chap, he put the chains on himself.
I understand what you mean all peoples were oppressed at one time or the other my ancestors came here as prisoners having lost a battle to put Stewart on the throne of England then sold into endentureship for seven years most did not live out the period of endentureship because that were treated so badly. However mine some how survived. Then of course there were the children of Israel who were enslaved by Egyptians. Sometimes you just have to pick yourself up dust off and move on.
Please point out who is a victim here. Stop with the right wing personal attacks and focus on the facts. Thanks
What personal attack? We are pointing out that the KKK is no longer a threat. That b/c America is a country of immigrants, most of your white/brown/yellow fellow Americans have histories where their ancestors were also oppressed and, to steal Larenzo1’s phrase “Sometimes you just have to pick yourself up dust off & move on”
One important point in this article is about how black children are done a disservice when libs let them cling to their “culture” simply b/c their ancestors suffered. So. Did. Mine. Learn English. Pay attention and graduate. Get a job.
Maggie Dallas said I was “playing victim” and that I “put chains on myself”. Those are personal attacks that didn’t have anything to do with the topic at hand.
Maggie do you have the same disdain for the poor white kids who are of the goth, punk, valley, surfer, skate, metal, or even hip-hop cultures of whom the poorest have the same poor graduation rates and test scores? Or is this JUST a commentary on black kids?
You acknowledged in a previous post that racism still exists, but your solution to that is ignore it? lol Calling attention to a thing is not making excuses. It is holding people accountable and pushing for change. And we KNOW how resistant to change racists are…right?
If you blame the current failings of our education system regarding poor black children on the KKK or racism, you are playing the victim card.
If you hear disdain for any child in my posts, you are misunderstanding. I have disdain for educators and those who would leave these children uneducated and unprepared for the real world by allowing their poor behavior in the classroom.
If “goth, punk, valley…..” etc children were allowed to bring their “culture” into classrooms and thereby interfering with the teaching process, I would hold those teachers in disdain as well.
How is calling attention to racism helping these kids?
I am not assigning blame at all. I am merely stating that what is obvious to those of us who are objective. That is…education is much more effected by economics than race. Poor education is not relegated to poor black kids. Poor white kids have just as bad test scores and just as low graduation rates. But, for some strange reason there no diatribes about poor white kids graduating at only a 68% percent rate in Alaska or West Virginia. There are no blogs about how ignorant and useless they are. There are no national outcry about how these poor white dropouts are ruining the country. Why is that? Maybe because it is easier for the majority to demonize the minorities because they are part of the majority and have no way to tell who is whom just by looking at them?
Calling attention to racism exposes a systematic attitude that demonizes a people because of their race. This demonization lead to underfunding, underrepresentation, lack of concern, and down right hate (from some) that promotes inequality on every level. This is not to make excuses for the kids…much less their parents (who are more to blame), but it does give insight into what is real.
I can assure you that if ignoring injustice was the correct course of action to better both those kids and this country that we would be much further along. But, as it stands, it is incumbent on those who have “overcome” to try to correct issues they faced coming up. This is what the entire Civil Rights Movement was about. Until people are objective about race relations in this country we all will continue to have problems.
Black cops would not have a job if they brutalize white people. You brought out so many very good points, I will use them on other topics. Thanks
Andre, the fact that you believe these things are endemic in today’s world of a “black” POTUS just shows your own degree of racism.
Bruce, when did I say it was endemic? I just said racism exists. I don’t believe the majority of white people are racist. I have over 300 white friends..lol. I obviously don’t believe they are racist. Some of them are a little naïve, but we can talk about that without them calling me racist, idiot, SOB, or the host of other things I have been called on this thread just for posting facts. I haven’t attacked anyone. I haven’t even retaliated after been attacked. Let me explain what racism is.
Racism = the belief that one’s race is superior.
Me calling attention to racism doesn’t make me any more racist than a person calling attention to rape makes them a rapist.
Sure there are white folks that are racist, just like there are blacks that are racist, latinos, Asians, arabs, and hundreds of others Im sure, racism is promoted by the government, because if the people figured out what they were doing to them, UNITED, the power structure would collapse
“Black cops don’t brutalize and kill white people because of race.”
Do you ever have a source for any of these “facts” that you throw out there as if they’re just self-evident? Of course you don’t. The implication is that white cops “brutalize and kill” black suspects, of course, and that furthermore, they do so only because of their race, and that they do so disproportionately more than their black colleagues. But never mind any of that, just throw out banal generalizations that have no basis in reality as if they’re simply givens, then move along to your next inane platitude.
So, if I source the “fact” that blacks are “brutalized and killed” do to racial profiling by white cops, would you change your opinion that they are just generalizations and fiction?
Do your own research, you can start here!! http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.pdf
Andre, the KKK was the violent arm of a particular political party. About a third of those lynched during Jim Crow, were white people. It was/is about political power. And it has worked out rather nicely for democrats. The chains are still there.
So, you are blaming the racism of the KKK on their political affiliation? What about the other 21 white supremacist groups in the U.S today?
What about Black Entertainment Television? What about Black History Month? What about the NAACP? What about the Black Congressional Caucus?
Everybody’s racist. Everybody! Even though we try not to be.
Everybody distrusts that which is foreign.
You don’t get acceptance here, you get tolerance.
I don’t accept your point of view, but I tolerate it.
Dallas, you don’t accept anything that is logical because you are narrow-minded. Don’t try to paint all of us with your racist paint brush because you are trying to justify being dumb. There is NOTHING racist about me. I love all people the same. I judge all people based on their actions and character, not their skin color, political affiliations, culture, nationality, or any other non-factors. So, although I understand how your racist views and attitudes keep you from accepting anyone who does not look like you, you need to understand that the majority of people in this country don’t feel like you.
How dare you judge me in a paragraph that states that you do not judge?
Letting your racism show a bit?
I didn’t judge you, I said you have racist views and attitudes. Apparently you can’t read. I said I judge people based on the actions and character. I didn’t say I don’t judge, lol. Let’s find out if I am correct. Do you love black people?
Dear Andre,
You use attack language (Apparently you can’t read. -because you are trying to justify being dumb) because of your inability to articulate dispassionately. I don’t mind, because it’s only words.
I am a Christian. I TRY to love everyone; but being imperfect I fall short of that goal. I admit it. But like you I keep trying. Having said that, let me clarify my statement about everybody being racist: I believe that racism is a human failure that we all share to some degree. Some less than others. Just like the tendency toward to sin. It is inherent in our nature. Racism is not solely a white failure. It is a human failure. That is what I meant.
I cannot truthfully say I love ALL black people, but I am willing to give individuals the benefit of the doubt until I know them better. One of my best buddies is Haitian. He recounts to me the horrors of Haitian slave history, and I tell him how my ancestors fled the ‘Potato Famine’ in Ireland (the English took all the food by force) only to be treated like dirt by other Whites (see: No Irish need apply). He calls me a White Devil, and I call him a Black B*stard. We both laugh and get back to work. My pal Jeffrey and I are both descendants of those who were treated horribly by those who had power.
The original statement was true. The KKK was started by evil men who were also Democrats to suppress the Black vote because the Blacks in the South were voting Republican in droves. Go Figure.
Dallas, my stating your inability to read was not attack language, it was sarcasm aimed at the fact the you purposefully misrepresented what my paragraph said by stating something that was completely false. I said I judge based on actions and character. You, in turn, stated that my paragraph said I didn’t judge…lol. The only way to address such dishonesty was with sarcasm.
What you believe and what is true seem to be at odds. Sin being innate in us is true. Racism being innate is not. You want to paint with such a broad brush because you want to justify your failure by saying everyone has such failures. Sorry my friend, it is not true. There I absolutely no racism in me. Racism is illogical and based on emotion, fear, and low self esteem. I teach my sons the all 3 of those should be controlled. The fact that you have a Haitian friend is fine, but it has nothing to do with how you feel superior to African-Americans simply because of our skin color and your unfounded beliefs. You have maybe a few black friends…I have literally hundreds of white friends. My god children are white. My son’s God father is white. Again I say, ALL people should be judged by their actions and character and skin color has absolutely nothing to do with either.
The KKK is a “Christian” organization formed as a reactionary terrorist group to fight republicans trying to get equality for black people in America. The paradigm shift came when Democrats started supporting civil rights. Then the racists and KKK members switched to the GOP…and their they remain.
You are truly the most willingly ignorant SOB I have encountered
No need to get emotional, just show me what I am wrong about.
People HAVE BEEN SHOWING YOU BUT YOU ARE SO STUCK IN YOUR RACISM, that you simple will not see,,,,
Jackie…typical non-response. There is not a racist bone in my body. You …like most people…don’t really know what racism is. Racism is not using racial slurs, or even hating another race. Racism is BELIEVING YOUR RACE IS SUPERIOR TO ANOTHER JUST BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF YOUR SKIN.
I don’t believe my skin makes me special or superior to anyone else. But, about 30% of white people in this country still believe their skin color makes them better than everyone else. THAT IS RACISM.
yes and the 30 percent are all democrooks
Do you just lie when it suits you? See which party the KKK and The Aryan Nation votes for. 100 % Republican. And I suspect you know this. It was the democratic White people marching and protesting about the injustice of the Zimmerman trial. The Republicans (I went to republican/conservative pages Saturday night) we happy that another black teen was killed. I’m just saying. I will gladly point you to the Conservative Talk Facebook page I was arguing on so you can see how Racist your republican cohorts are.
You don’t even know me! How dare you say such a thing! I have never believed my race or ANY other is superior to any other one!
I BELIEVE we are ALL equal and we ALL HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES, especially if born in America! Many of all races and creeds can do anything with their lives IF THEY ARE WILLING to DO THE WORK, some are just not willing!! So don’t tell me racism is anything Im guilty of!
I didn’t say you were racist. I didn’t even accuse you of being racist. You accused ME OF BEING RACIST. I merely responded by telling you what racism is.
Le me repeat
“Racism is BELIEVING YOUR RACE IS SUPERIOR TO ANOTHER JUST BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF YOUR SKIN.”
I didn’t say YOU believed this ..lol. I was telling you why I am not.
It is funny, though, how you accused me of being racist and it was perfectly ok for you to so. But when you THOUGHT I accused you of the same thing (which I didn’t) you got all up in arms. Smh
You are simply looking for a fight! Sorry pal, nearly every post you made was filled with accusations of racism,,, keep lookin in the mirror!
I never accused you of racism. You accused me of it. I have over 300 white friends. My goddaughter is white. The Godfather of my oldest son is white. My best friend is white. I have hired white people. I live among white people. I don’t believe I am better than any race by virtue of my skin color. I don’t know if you do are not. But I do know you made a poor assumption about me that was rude. Then you got upset because YOU THOUGHT I called you a racist..which I didn’t. You are funny.
“Over 300 white friends” On Facebook maybe? But didn’t you tell me that having friends of another race doesn’t prove one isn’t racist? Or do you just have a double-standard?
No, I said 1, 2 or 10. That is such a small sample that it does not negate the fact that a person (white or black) may still feel they are better than the other race as a whole.
And yes they are on facebook. But, 95% of them are highschool or college friends. These are not strangers that I friended to have a big list.
Oh, and what about the other reasons I state as reasons that I am not racist?
The fact that you have 300 white friends is fine, but it has nothing to do with how you feel superior to Caucasian-Americans simply because of our skin color and your unfounded beliefs.
Also his hypocrisy. Most blacks and liberal win every argument by screaming ‘racis’ at the top of their lungs in a high pitched voice like a toddler wanting more candy. So he thinks in Doublethink, he can say two contradicting things and not realize they are contradictive.
Many are socialist in economic policy.
Many were lynched in New York City and Indiana.
Please give your source for saying 1/3 of people lynched during Jim Crow were white. Thanks
That’s what I cant figure out, The democrooks started the KKK, and instituted Jim Crowes law, to keep blacks from voting, Now 95 percent of those same blacks voted for the democrooks…So they either do it because they are racist, or they are just that damn stupid..which is it? 95 percent? that’s almost the entire 37 million blacks in the country, what say you, Andre
Ok, I will take this one on. First, on the lynching, that certainly happened back in the 30’s due to changing laws and a more liberal judicial department that was catering to black votes. Thus, vigilantes took the situation in hand and did lynch people that had committed crimes, but were headed to a situation that would let them back on the streets. As a consequence of these judicial actions in the 30’s, we now have rampant crime and no respect for the law. Then there is the famous issue of rapes. Look up the stats. You will find that rapes by black men involving white women is sky high and always has been. But you will find that rapes of black women by white men is almost nil. Then we have denial of loans. I can’t believe you brought that up. The Federal government forced the banks to give loans to people that did not qualify and the result is the current depression. Finally, I have worked very closely with the black community for the last 40 years and have rarely seen whites inflict violence on blacks because of the skin color. Now, I see blacks killing and hurting whites daily because of their racism and prejudice. We have a significant problem with the black community and the reason is that people will not address the issue. As to the KKK, I knew David Duke at LSU. Not as a friend but because he frequently gave speeches at the Free Speech Ally and his feeling was that the KKK was not relevant any longer as blacks were doing a better job of destroying themselves than he ever could. Also note that most of the white supremacist groups are up north and most are present because of the strange attitude that our government has regarding discrimination against whites.
Please tell me what portion of the black community has a problem in percentages. Thanks
From the position that I am in working with indigents, I would estimate that at least 70% of the black population in my community of 300,000 has significant problems and are very prone to anti-social and self-destructive activity. Blacks constitute about 52% of the population in my area. I know from activity that I have been involved in over the last 40 years, that there are substantial areas in all cities that are predominately black and are “no go” areas for even the police. If you research black crime, you will find that on a world wide basis, blacks are 3 times more likely to be associated with violence than any other group. In fact, I was planning a trip to the Middle East a few years ago and was concerned as to security. I looked up the stats and found that the incidence of violence in areas of unrest in Egypt and other areas was less in a year than what occurred in the ghetto areas of my home town.
I am not saying this as a consequence of trying to be racist. Instead, you are making claims that are not true and are clearly Democratic and NAACP talking points. Many of us want to help the black community and for them to grow and thrive. We would like to see the black community free of the chains of slavery that has secured them since the Civil War and is the result of clear manipulation by the politicians. Ask yourself, why do we have the ghettos and why haven’t black children been able to succeed in the same situation as whites? It is because of misinformation and prejudice that is instilled in blacks by their leaders in the form of the NAACP and others as well as the Democratic politicians.
You seem to mean well, but are misguided and misinformed yourself. You have accepted a few misnomers that color your belief system. This doesn’t mean you are racist, but you do demonstrate racial prejudice which is something completely different. Now, don’t get me wrong. Everyone in the world has some prejudice about something or someone. I am not saying you or any other people who think like you are bad people. Just misguided.
First, you accepted indoctrination of generations based on tradition. The tradition in this country since its beginning was to look down on black people. Until about 100 years ago most white people in America didn’t even think we were HUMAN. That belief, even though patently absurd and scientifically false, took TIME to change in the minds of whites. And even with most white people accepting that (some still don’t) it was still ok, even LAW, that whites consider themselves “better” than black people all the way till the 1960’s. Because of this belief, all manner of propaganda , lies and rhetoric have been said about black people and continue till this day. This propaganda and the denial of white people to accept ANY, not all, but ANY responsibility for the systematic destruction of a people of the course of 400 years that has only just ended less than a generation ago presents a certain set of challenges for us that is unique to us from anyone else in the world. You all expect us to erase/ignore the atrocities perpetrated against us that created a system to oppress us…when the system is still in place! lol. Forgive my laughter, but it is just absurd. The attitudes towards black people are NOT based on facts and heart felt concern. They are based on fear, ignorance, emotion and greed. Yes poor black ppl are more violent than poor white people. But you all don’t really care that we are killing each other. You just use it as ammunition for disliking us. Yes we are 3 times more likely to commit a violent crime. But you all are 11 times more likely to a white collar crime. You are 4.5 times as likely to be carrying weed/other drugs than us. You are 3 times more likely to be driving drunk. You are 15 times more likely to be a serial killer. You are 5 times as likely to rape a white woman. You are 12 times more likely to carry out a terrorist act on U.S soil. Yet, you don’t generalize all white people because of the actions of a few. Hmmm, why is that? You think it’s because you can’t separate yourself from white people? You can’t look down your nose at all white people because you can’t readily identify who is whom. This means they have to do or say something, or you find out something about them BEFORE you judge them. Unfortunately, this is not the case for black people or any other people of color. You can make a predetermination about a person of color based on stereotypes and misinformation simply by looking at them. It doesn’t matter how often you are wrong, the 1 time out of 10 that you are right will continue to justify (in your mind) the preconceived notions you have about us. It doesn’t matter than your neighbor “Bob” is more likely to have embezzled from his company AND smokes pot on a daily basis than it is that “Jamal” across the street deals drugs. But if “Jamal” is driving a BMW in your neighborhood at night, the natural assumption of cops…and many of your neighbors…is that he is dealing drugs. Not that you all are bad people, you just accept some nasty traditions.
To answer your questions:. ” Why do we have ghettos and why don’t black kids succeed in the same situations”
1) We have ghettos because there will always be poor people. Although we are poor in higher percentages…you do realize there are 15 million more poor white people in this country than poor black people right? What is their excuse when they have every advantage?
2) Black kids DO succeed like white kids when in the SAME situations. I went to a white high school. I graduated top 10%. Affluent black kids consistently achieve as high or higher than their white counterparts. Research Affluent black communities. Research poor white communities. You will find that this is like I said ..and AN ECONOMIC ISSUE not a color one. If it were color then all poor white kids would be graduating at the same rate as rich white kids..right? But, we know this isn’t true. So, if we remove the racial bias we can objectively see that economics play a bigger role in education than skin color.
Until about 100 years ago most white people in America didn’t even think we were HUMAN………..Really? did you poll them? Where is the statistic that shows that white people thought blacks were not human? Unless you are talking about the Democrooks, that was their belief, they started the KKK, and passed Jim Crowes Law, the same group of folks 95 percent of black community voted for….talk about an oxymoron
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America’s first slave owner was a black man.
Actual drawing of Anthony Johnson, the first slave owner in the colonies.
According to colonial records, the first slave owner in the United States was a black man.
Prior to 1655 there were no legal slaves in the colonies, only indentured servants. All masters were required to free their servants after their time was up. Seven years was the limit that an indentured servant could be held. Upon their release they were granted 50 acres of land. This included any Negro purchased from slave traders. Negros were also granted 50 acres upon their release.
Anthony Johnson was a Negro from modern-day Angola. He was brought to the US to work on a tobacco farm in 1619. In 1622 he was almost killed when Powhatan Indians attacked the farm. 52 out of 57 people on the farm perished in the attack. He married a female black servant while working on the farm.
When Anthony was released he was legally recognized as a “free Negro” and ran a successful farm. In 1651 he held 250 acres and five black indentured servants. In 1654, it was time for Anthony to release John Casor, a black indentured servant. Instead Anthony told Casor he was extending his time. Casor left and became employed by the free white man Robert Parker.
Anthony Johnson sued Robert Parker in the Northampton Court in 1654. In 1655, the court ruled that Anthony Johnson could hold John Casor indefinitely. The court gave judicial sanction for blacks to own slave of their own race. Thus Casor became the first permanent slave and Johnson the first slave owner.
Whites still could not legally hold a black servant as an indefinite slave until 1670. In that year, the colonial assembly passed legislation permitting free whites, blacks, and Indians the right to own blacks as slaves.
By 1699, the number of free blacks prompted fears of a “Negro insurrection.” Virginia Colonial ordered the repatriation of freed blacks back to Africa. Many blacks sold themselves to white masters so they would not have to go to Africa. This was the first effort to gently repatriate free blacks back to Africa. The modern nations of Sierra Leone and Liberia both originated as colonies of repatriated former black slaves.
However, black slave owners continued to thrive in the United States.
By 1830 there were 3,775 black families living in the South who owned black slaves. By 1860 there were about 3,000 slaves owned by black households in the city of New Orleans alone.
Sources:
John Casor
Anthony Johnson
To update, in the 513 days between Trayvon dying, and today’s verdict, 11,106 African Americans have been murdered by other African-Americans
The FACTS just don’t support you Andre
94 percent of ALL BLACKS MURDERED…..BY BLACK FOLKS!!! staggering statistic
Randy, ummm…you do know conservatives and liberals switched alliances over the issue of civil rights…right? Democrats used to be the conservatives and Republicans used to be the liberals. Is that they way it is today? I think not. Cut out the nonsense!..lol
Who sold you that piece of rewritten history crapola? As was requested of you before by a previous poster, please go to http://www.black-and-right.com/the-democrat-race-lie/ and tell us which of those facts support that crazy theory because I sure can’t see it. We’ll wait patiently while you do your research.
Go to the “Great Democrat lie” at the top of this page. Click on it and scroll down…you will see the actual facts…I don’t do theory. I either do FACTS OR LOGIC. Both can be verified. Thanks for playing.
Focus, Andre — since you deal in FACTS — pick a fact from the page and using LOGIC, tell us how it isn’t true. Without an answer from you on this simple request, I have to consider you just someone with too much spare time so they spend all day thumbing away on their cellphone keyboard stirring the pot by posting outrageous comments with nothing to back them up.
No problem! Let’s just get to he paramount point of the Author of the essay.
“For those of you with children, better a smaller house in a white district than a fancy one near a black school.”
Affluent black schools outperform poor whites schools in every aspect. Graduation, test scores, college entrance, and which colleges they get into. Fact: places like Baldwin hills (a predominately black school in upper middle class California) have higher graduation rates and test scores than the entire state of West Virginia which is OVERWHELMINGLY white.
I would post more, but I suspect you don’t really care about what is true or false. You just want to hang on to what you currently believe. That is your right. But, don’t challenge me to give you facts that will do nothing to change your position. It means I will simply be wasting my time and yours. An exercise in futility that will change nothing.
I have no idea whose post you have confused with mine, as this is not an answer to my question. My post had nothing to do with the essay. It was simply a request for an answer to your comments about the reversal of liberals and conservatives over the years and facts stated in the website I linked . I am not so tenacious that I will give you many more chances to answer and will just consider you to be not worth my time. I’m just looking to be dazzled by your brilliance, not baffled by your bull****.
I am not sure why my posts are not showing up. But let me answer this again.
No Problem. Let’s tackle the paramount statement in this article.
“For those of you with children, better a smaller house in a white district than a fancy one near a black school.”
This would mean that poor white schools are somehow better than affluent black schools just because the student body is black. Well we know this is not true because affluent black schools perform at a MUCH HIGHER LEVEL than poor white schools. Take a look at West Virginia and Alaska which are overwhelmingly white and they only have 68% graduation rates! Affluent black community graduation rates and test scores are much better than West Virginia’s and Alaska’s. So what the author of this article said is FALSE AND BASED Strictly on him believing poor white students would be better than ANY BLACK students…even the affluent ones who perform better than the poor whites. This, my friend, is the VERY DEFINITION of racism…and is patently absurd.
How do you like that for LOGIC?
To update, in the 513 days between Trayvon dying, and today’s verdict, 11,106 African Americans have been murdered by other African-Americans
OUCHY!!!
The white man is not killing them, they are killing themselves
And not a single one that got caught got a Not Guilty verdict I bet.
And why even mention that, you are happy all of those black people are dead…right?
Mr. Bonds, it is not 1960 any more.
I agree, but the racist attitudes still remain. I mean, that is easy to see by just reading the responses I am getting here.
The anger and frustration of blacks here in the U.S. and all over the world stems from what I call the Medicine Cabinet Syndrome.
Blacks wake up every morning, look in the mirror and sigh in despair: “sheeyat.. another day ahead of me at being a ni66..”
It must be tough, for there’s nothing they can do about it. So they take it out on Whites. Which, by the way they’d love to look like.
Derek, you actually believe you are better than me, Will Smith, Bob Johnson, Colin Powell, President Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Michael Jordan, and all of the other 74% of successful black Americans in this country, just because of the color of your skin…RIGHT?
No, Andre Bonds. Actually I don’t feel I’m better than anyone just because of the color of my skin at all.
I just simply pointed out the reason for the anger and frustration that blacks have to live with daily. That’s all.
Derek, well good try but you are little off. It may surprise you to know that most of us wake up and thank God we are not white. This is not because we dislike white people, but it just because we are proud of who we are. We are proud that we overcame despite the racism and prejudice that still exists. There are plenty of other sources of pride that are not important to list. But, the thing is, any time we try to exhibit pride of our culture, white people have a huge problem with it. There are no such problems with Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans, or Europeans….but let black people try to do something for themselves…there will be a problem. Sad but true.
By the way, Andre Bonds, here are some informative sites about reports of black-on-White crime.
http://irateirishman.com/blog/?cat=6
http://www.newnation.org/NNN-Black-on-White.html
FACT: 94 percent of African americans killed, are killed by African americans, so lets move this conversation on, its obvious you have a larger problem, than, THE WHITE MAN
Blacks don’t need black supremacist groups, since all blacks already feel that way, white supremacy groups are outside the mainstream with whites.
Look at how many blacks think AIDS was created to kill blacks, a bizarre fantasy that explains away the reason STD spread quickly among blacks is because black will have sex with anyone, no matter how long they’ve been unemployed or obese, and men refuse to wear condoms, are proud of that fact, and the obese woman with 4 kids already shrugs off condom use.
You live in a fantasy world. You understand nothing but cute little mottos, like “Hope and Change”.
Please give me just ONE fact so we can have a civil conversation.
BS
You stop. Stop perpetuating the same old tired cliche’s and stereotypes. You sound like Jesse Jackass.
None.
In 86 years, the KKK killed a total of 3,446 black people in America.
In the year of 2011 alone, black people killed twice that amount. More than 7,000 black people killed in a single year by other black people in this country.
It’s not the KKK you need to worry about.
If you believe the KKK only killed 3446 people in 86 years then I have some pet rocks and soap on a rope to sell to you at a premium.
Over 80% of the violent crimes in the poor black communities are either gang or drug related. I am not poor, I am not in a poor black community. I am not in a gang, and I am not in the drug game nor do I do drugs. So, I have about the same chance of getting killed by a racist cop as a black thug. But thanks for your concern.
I was talking about D. Dandridge the Actress, I thought that everyone knew that.
WTH?????? You actually think white ppl have been more victimized by black people???
Amazing! And so very sad that the so many under educated Blacks have allowed themselves to become this way. How sad for you as a teacher, how sad for any white students that have to attend this school, and I think how ashamed Martin Luther King would be of how blacks act now, and how many steps backwards they have taken. Incredibly Shameful. Explains why so many educated Blacks, have left the Democratic Party and are now either Republicans or Tea Party. They all strove to be something more than lazy asses, living off the system. I solute them, for they are truly Black-Americans, and wish to be known as that. Not African-Americans, they didn’t just come from Africa, they were born here and are Black. It is incredibly sad and frankly,.. quite scary that these young blacks feel they have the “Right” to act this way. They have a very hard lesson ahead of them, and a life of shame, for they will never amount to anything. Obama has instigated this type of behavior in blacks, and the lack-luster Hollywood folks. Obama has made it ok for uneducated Blacks to live off the system, to stay uneducated, deal drugs, fight dogs, and act like complete idiots who appear to be brain dead. Instead he should be motivating them to be something more, go out and be something. Apparently he doesn’t even have faith in his own race. Or half of his own race, because lets not forget, Obama’s mama was white!!!!!!
Where the hell have you been… what bubble ??? You are really ignorant are you ?? You need to do some real research on american history n slavery. You have issues
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States
You said “becuz” DID YOU READ THE ARTICLE?!?!?!?!
First of all there is no need for the “a” in between “is” and “self hate.” Self-hate should also be hyphenated. “Black women” should be spelt fully and not abbreviated, this is not Twitter or an SMS message.
“[N]one can compare than Racist in America by Whites.” is utterly nonsensical, please review basic third-grade sentence structure: subject, predicate, object, and so forth… Or maybe you could try something wacky like past tense and present tense.
“To drain a swimming pool becuz a blk woman took a swim.” I’m going to assume you meant ‘because’ and ‘black woman,’ in this sentence. I’m also going to assume that if I asked you to cite your source you would a) have no idea what a citation was, b) call me a racist for doubting you, and c) be incapable of providing a reference because the event is wholly fictional.
Your had a good point about someone making unverifiable claims. Just make your point don’t try to shame the person by pointing out their spelling mistakes. It takes away from what you are saying. Especially if you turn around and make spelling mistakes yourself. “Spelt” is a plant, a type of wheat to be precise. The word you were looking for is spelled, well, “spelled.” And the hyphen is optional in self hate.
No, the simple past tense and past participle of the verb “spell” is “spelt,” check any reputable, unabridged dictionary of the English language.
Likewise, “self hate” as two words is nonsensical in the context the original author wrote, if you want to use the noun “self” as a prefix to the word “hate,” then it needs a hyphen: “self-hate.”
Sorry, I didn’t realize you were British. I assumed you were American. You are correct, in British English it is variation of the past tense of spell. However, in American English spelled is used instead of “spelt.” (And if you are American, then sorry again, I’m not trying to be sarcastic. I did look it up in a dictionary. I got my degree in English and have the complete Webster’s 3rd in volumes and the complete Oxford English Dictionary. I like to be precise when possible.)
And I agree that including a hyphen clarifies the meaning of self-hate. However, since the late eighties it has been taught in the US that hyphens are optional so you can’t blame someone for not using one. Personally I think not using hyphens is stupid. Without a hyphen, how do you know if a chicken coop is just a cage for chickens or a group of people raising chickens together?
Anyway, sorry for sticking my two cents in here. It’s hypocritical of me for criticizing someone for correcting someone else’s grammar by criticizing someone else’s grammar. This whole thread had put me in such a bad mood and giving me such a bleak look at humanity that I am griping more than I usually do. I am going to get off of here and just go out enjoy the 4th of July weekend. I hope you do too.
I’m an American, but I was self- and parental-educated to favor a more “old-fashioned” standard of American English over modern vernacular, for the simple reason that this is what my parents had started me on and what I stuck with (rather stubbornly) as I got older. American English used to be a lot closer to British English, mostly because the Brits kept teaching prescriptivist grammar to their children right on through to the 1990s, we dropped it sometime in the `60s. So I still follow all of the rules we are taught are ‘optional’ these days.
How many people on this website even know the meaning of Vernacular and If I don’t know, I’ll look it up. You are too serious for this site. To me it’s for fun.
Yes, I am far to serious: this is why I spent days trolling an Angela by quoting Star Wars in response to her Jewish New World Order conspiracy.
As for how many people know the meaning of Vernacular? I would guess that as many people who know that a question should be written with a interrogation mark (a.k.a a ‘question mark’). In other words, only those who stayed awake during their English lessons in third-grade.
Thomas Sowell wrote eloquently on the failures in our public school system, sharing this anecdote: “A recently reprinted memoir by Frederick Douglass (1818-1895) has footnotes explaining what words like “arraigned,” “curried” and “exculpate” meant, and explaining who Job was. In other words, this man who was born a slave and never went to school educated himself to the point where his words now have to be explained to today’s expensively under-educated generation.”
You seem inexplicably proud of your inability to use basic punctuation (proper capitalization, proper sentence ending marks), your limited vocabulary, and your insistence on odd abbreviation (e.g., “blk” for black).
“Having fun” does not mean you need to be unintelligible.
But yet I got you to take your time and respond every time, so who’s the unintelligible one?
Disqus sends me an e-mail whenever anyone replies to a posting of mine. These responses take less than twenty seconds to type on average, so it isn’t taking much of my time at all, especially if I do so in otherwise wasted moments. (I am currently writing this one while waiting on an elevator to arrive.)
However, I don’t think you are aware of the difference between “unintelligible” and “unintelligent,” so perhaps my efforts are wasted. Still, if I can get you to start expanding your vocabulary at all, maybe it’ll be worth it.
You’re missing the whole point, it really isn’t about the physical time. Well, you may not be wasting yours but I’m wasting mines!
“Physical time” is a nonsensical phrase, I think you meant “actual time.” Since I’m enjoying myself, it really isn’t a waste.
“Mines” refers to multiple explosive devices. The word you wanted to use at the end of that is just “mine.” The non-premodifying possessive case of “I.”
This is simple grade school English grammar.
“you’re one creepy a*# cracker” -sound familiar!
“You’re one creepy a*# cracker.” Sound familiar!?
The first letter of a sentence should almost always be capitalized, a sentence which is a statement should end in a full stop (a.k.a. a period), and a question should end in an interrogatory point (a.k.a. question mark). In this case, you want to use both an exclamation mark AND an interrogatory point to add emphasis to the tone.
African American Vernacular English may have a grammar and phonology that makes it a distinct dialect of American English. This does not mean it is without punctuation.
He is correct Ish is evidently an English Grammar teacher Sign me up lolol.
I am not an educator and have never claimed to be.
You’re not very educated either, stupid kíke…
I am educated enough to know that word at the end of your insult doesn’t have an accent mark in it. Especially not the acute accent, it’s a short vowel sound.
Regardless of how poor the grammar you understood and resp. it is a true fact, the life of D.Danridge the blk actress.
True story the life of Dorothy Dandridge, born in 1922, rent the movie. H. berry played the role.
Yes… my city drained 3 pools this week for that very reason.
Sure that was snark
Dottie Dandridge, true story!
i heard of that case. it wasn’t because she was black, it was because her and her friends were in the pool with chemicals in their hair so thick it mixed with the cleaning chemicals in the pool and caused burns/infections to other people who had to swim after her and her friends were in that pool. when the landlord asked her to stop, or wash her hair before she entered the pool, the backlash he got from her and her friends was ungodly. since she refused to keep the chemicals out of the pool, he had to drain it to keep everyone out of it. so it wasn’t a thing about her color, it was the crap she had in her hair, and the damage it was doing to others. but of course she made it about race, she sued and lost her case, and she was evicted for causing damage and problems.
Citation please, otherwise this is just simple anecdotal evidence… Oh, and maybe practice using your “Shift” key.
Hmmm…no. do it yourself.
I’m sorry, but that’s just childish. The burden of proof is on the party asserting a claim, that’s just how well-mannered people are supposed to handle themselves in a debate.
I could claim that increasing use of microwave ovens in American kitchens was the root cause of the increase in unwed mothers, declare it fact, and say to all who doubt me “Nah-nah-nah! Prove that its not!” But that would make me sound like a fool.
An assertion without evidence is worthless.
I heard “do it yourself” as a response to your “practice using your ‘Shift’ key” but I confess my hearing is somewhat less than perfect..
Hmmm….too lazy to look it up, but not to lazy to whine. Boo friggin who, do it yourself. if you dont believe me, oh well no skin off my nose. you wouldn’t be the first to not believe me, and i am sure you wont be the last.
I am sure i am not the first person you have tried to bully, and i am sure i wont be the last to tell you to shut the hell up with your whining and look for it yourself. lazy.
I want to “look it up,” that is the reason that I asked you for a citation to your source(s). What you are asking me to do is accept your assertion blindly or to perform a herculean feat of research to find a vaguely described incident.
A needle in a haystack would be far easier to find than one swimming pool, in an unknown location, which was drained, for unknown reasons, after an African-American, of unknown identity, swam in it… at an unknown point in time.
I’m not being a bully, I’m trying to have a productive conversation with you about the incident you brought up. You might be familiar with the internet cliche “Pics or it didn’t happen.” Well, this is essentially the same rule for an adult conversation about a historic event: cite your source or it will be dismissed as baseless.
then dismiss it. i dont do demands, and this is totally lazy to demand something you can look up on your own. dont believe me, i dont care. its not a debate when you keep hurling insults over an article you refuse to find for yourself. i dont know you but you’ve called me everything from a liar to a dolt. good day sir, keep your insults, i have no reason to do anything for you. no more replies, the conversation you are having with yourself is done.
I have not called you a liar nor a dolt, I have simply asked you to provide something to serve as proof of your assertion. Would you, at the very least, tell us the name of the state and the year that this incident took place?
How can I begin my efforts to look it up with no information to work with?
Who did it happen to? When did it happen? Where?
You changed your post after waiting 14 days, unless you are completely computer illiterate, its still NO. Silly Liberal!
As i told you 14 days ago when you posted your original reply, the answer is still NO
You must have friends, they have deleted my reply to you 4 times already, and each time i say no. that’s a left wing article for you!
Considering what blacks do to their hair, weaves and dozens of chemicals, I believe that more then it was ‘racis’ pool owner. Blacks don’t want to admit all the grooming they do is possible poisonious.
Nothing with hair, Dorothy Dandridge, true story!
Gotta call bull on this story.
the only reason why your response has not yielded triple digital arrow downs is because people aren’t incline to register just to click the arrow.
Who cares it not that important.
The story you reference is about Dorothy Dandridge, a black singer in the 50s. Please tell me why you feel it is relevant in this discussion. i doubt you could find many black high school students who have any idea who Dorothy Dandridge was. At most a few would have a hazy memory of the Halle Berry movie bio-pic.
I am telling about the depth of hate, so let me make it current for today. All of the Free G. Zimmerman posts on Facebook, has come from White woman such as yourself. Black High school kids should know the story, and if they read this post, now they will know.
Did you read this guy’s post? His black students were not interested in learning ANY history. Not white history, not black history. You are dreaming if you think even one of those students followed the links to this article, much less the comments. And whoever is supporting Zimmerman is not ANYTHING like me in ANY way except skin color. The fact that you write “….White woman such as yourself…” shows that it is YOU who has a problem with race, not me. I am a person, an individual, with unique experiences & opinions. Not a “White woman” like some other “White woman”.
Over my many years on earth every White person has said the same thing. I am different, but what I;ve learn is not to trust you….The Indians had it right many years ago, “White man speak with fork tongue.” As my grandmother said, I don’t trust you as far as I can throw you. The 2nd saddest thing is you believe your own lie…..My problem with race is from watching sistas even in 2013 being mistreated. White women seem to have a problem with Black women, the only thing you want are our men and babies. If you would spend more time trying to correct all of your white gay men, that should keep you busy for awhile…..My black women are not working in movies, tv and the list can go on, and you think that every white chick with blue eyes are beautiful. Even Julia Roberts. And you don’t know who reads what we don’t need you to tell us what to or not do.
=Caroline Taylor= “White women seem to have a problem with Black women, the only thing you want are our men and babies. If you would spend more time trying to correct all of your white gay men, that should keep you busy for awhile….”
You can’t get more racist than this.
No, you can’t get more factual than this!
So one person’s ‘facts’ is another person’s ‘racism’.
Got it. Nice to get it cleared up.
in regards to the draining of a pool because a black swam in it. The person that did that was most likely a DEMOCRAT. Democrats have been putting the blacks down, and most KKK members are indeed Democrats. So why would blacks elect the very people that use to enslave them and want to continue to enslave them as the ignorant masses. I have dealt with black people and have this to say, “I was never racist, I was never of the mind that black people were any different from me but for the color of their skin. Till they taught me that they in fact blamed me, someone who never meet them, for all their troubles. I have meet black people that were kind and did not think this way but they were in the minority from the group that I dealt with. I would like to meet more but I know this, we as a Nation need to stop supporting these people to sit around and do nothing, contribute nothing to the general welfare. If you are getting something from the government you need to start being someone that contributes to the government. We need to have people learn to earn. We need to instill values into people that working hard and bettering yourself is the thing to do, not riot and expect the government to pay for you to do nothing all your life
Well I am not a Democrat.
Why do people pretend the Southern Strategy was never a thing??? Do you have ZERO concept of history to know there was a SHIFT in political lines when blacks obtained equal rights on paper? The Racist Democrats felt BETRAYED by the other Democrats who embraced blacks. THOSE racists whites fled to the Republican party in HUGE numbers… The Democratic party, and the Republican party are NOT the same as they once was. Why do people deny this… Why do people try and pretend they are? It doesnt MATTER if all those racist people were Democrats… because THOSE people shifted to the Republican Party!!! Damn pick up a history book FFS!
Your brain is still back 50 years ago. Get over it ok. It’s pople like you that keep racism alive. Many blacks are way more racist than whites are. Just look at the New Black Panthers and all the hate spewed over the Trayvon case by blacks. Most use the race card at ever turn.
ONLY a black man? Sounds kinda racist, if you ask me…
Blacks People are so ignorant that they don’t realize that Obama is halve white , 1/4 Muslim and only 1/4 Black . Obama wouldn’t give the average Black Person Air if they were suffocating . They are being used by him for his own Agenda and to stupid to know it .
Ignorant? Perhaps. Let me help you out here. “Obama is half white.” A Muslim is a follower of Islam which is a religion, not a race. “Too stupid” is probably a reality, as in too stupid to master one’s native language.
Does adapting a grammar police stance change his point, at all? Is there any productive purpose in correcting another’s grammar in lieu of offering either support or rebuttal of his points?
Dat Sharon got mighty Quiet , who she thinks she be ??? Aristoceles!!!!!
In addition to the grammatical errors (according to this article, Bob must be black!), she was pointing out that “Bob” is just as, if not more, uninformed than the people he is ridiculing. “Muslim” is not a race… and it’s laughable to think that anyone who manages to use that word incorrectly in not one but TWO ways can even navigate a keyboard well enough to post such a ridiculous thought. Because I would like to hold out some hope for humanity today, I’ll just assume that the 43 votes up Bob received here were out of an appreciation for irony or a very understandable misunderstanding of what he was trying to communicate…
Smh…I think her point was that a person can NOT BE 1/4 MUSLIM…LOL! That is like being 1/4 Christian! You can’t accept the rant of a dumb ass when he is calling someone stupid. That is like the pot calling the kettle black…lol. Get it? …me calling a white racist black??!! Hahahahahaha…whew!
Correcting someone’s false assertion that a religious preference is the same thing as a race is GRAMMAR Police behavior??! Wow. Do you know what “grammar” is?
Ay Sharon…Catholicism is a ‘religion’ … muslim is a CULT!!! It’s leader, muhammed is a pedophile.
I have often wondered why there is such a reverence for Obama in the American “Black Community.”
Obama’s father is from Kenya. Obama grew up in Hawaii and Africa. He was raised by his white grandparents, when he wasn’t living in Africa. He then went on to college. Occidental, Columbia and Harvard. These are all schools that are out of reach from most Americans, not to mention people in the “Black Community.”
If you think about it, in the last presidential election, his opponent, Mitt Romney has more in common with them than Obama does.
Mark, put the crack pipe down!
Rather than telling me to put the crack pipe down, Andre, maybe you can help me to see the flaws in my observation.
Mark, great challenge. Your last statement about Romney having more in common than the “Black Community” is laughable because:
1) Obama is half black. What country you are from in this U.S of A means nothing to racists. Black is Black. So, he has experienced racism in this country like most of us have.
2) He grew up POOR. Since the black community has 24% of its population as poor (the largest percentage, although 15 million shy of how many poor white people there are), poor people can relate a little better to someone who grew up poor and didn’t decide he/she was all of a sudden better than the rest of the black people in the world.
3) Obama spent time in black communities in Chicago where he organized and lived “among” the people and gain invaluable insight into the conditions, beliefs, and attitudes of poor and middle class black people.
Do I really have to outline Romney’s rich, privileged, white life that leads him to believe that 47% of Americans want handouts? I surely hope not. I hope I helped.
1) Black is Black. So, he has experienced racism in this country like most of us have.
Are you telling that you have to be black to experience racism?
2) He grew up POOR.
Why is it that 24% of the black community is poor. Did white people do this to them? And since Obama was “poor,” what has he done to help them rise out of poverty?
Growing up in Hawaii and traveling back and forth from Africa, and then going to Occidental, Columbia and Harvard hardly seems like the lifestyle of a poor black man.
3) Obama spent time in black communities in Chicago where he organized and lived “among” the people and gain invaluable insight into the conditions, beliefs, and attitudes of poor and middle class black people.
You say that Obama spent time in black communities in Chicago where he organized and lived “among” the people. What has he done for those people especially the ones that are living in poverty? Do you have any examples of people that he has worked with to help them to rise above this poverty. It looks like to me that he has just used them for his own personal gain to make himself rich and powerful.
Back to my original statement. Other than his skin color, he has absolutely no ties to the “American Black Community.” I see a man who is doing nothing more than stepping on poor people for his own personal gain.
back to your original statement???… thats pretty comical considering what followed was NOT in your “original statement”… are you a politician Mark… you sure sound like one.
Listen, you can change the subject all you want. You made a dumb statement about Romney having more in common with the black community than Obama…Period. I showed you why it was unintelligent and laughable. Now you want to challenge my reasons why non-issues. Smh. Let me address them just for giggles.
Yes, some white people experience racism. But white people experiences are different from black people’s experiences. So, how could Romney have more in common with the black community if his is not black?
Obama grew up poor. That is a FACT. Why even challenge it?
I am not a Obama fan, so I haven’t tried to find GOOD things about him. He is not doing much for the poor because he is too soft to stand up to the conservatives who demonize poor people. But that doesn’t change the FACT that he has been poor and among poor people and Romney never has.
The only thing that I find laughable and unintelligent within this dialogue, is having someone tell me that my thoughts are laughable and unintelligent.
We have determined that Mr. Obma has a lot in common with “black people” because he has dark skin, and therefore he can relate to other Black folk. Which Black people are we talking about? Are all Black people the same? For that matter, are all White people the same? There seems to be a common idea these days that all White people are “racists.” I would like to point out here that if this were the case, there would only be white people living in the United States.
In the 50’s and 60’s George Romney and his family worked directly with people like Martin Luther King as well as local Civil Rights proponents in Michigan, like Edward Turner. You will have to dig to find information on this as the media did a pretty good job of downplaying Romney’s evolvement, right before the last presidential election. What were the Obamas doing while the Romneys were in the heat of the civil rights movement?
Today we have a system that is designed to keep a class of people uneducated and poor. It is quite simple how it works. The government feeds them and houses them, and it is done in a way that makes it next to impossible to escape. It encourages young women, still in their teens to have children, and the more they have the bigger the stipend. More than half of their children don’t know who their father is. These children are taught that the predicament that they are in is because of the White Man. They are being taught by their mothers that they have no hope. In a sense, they are right, because there are a lot of White men that are involved in using these programs to keep them where they want them. Uneducated and poor. But not all of the credit goes to white people, as there are plenty of Black law makers and activists that are involved in these programs as well.
Mitt Romney said many times, when he was running for office, that this system only hurts people. He said that if you want to help people rise out of poverty, there are things that they need to learn, like the importance of an education, the importance of not having children out of wedlock, and at such a young age, the importance of work and self worth. The importance of positive role models. The dangers of drugs and alcohol. This is the land of opportunity where even people like the Romneys can rise to the top. If you do your homework, you will learn that when George Romney was a young man, he was dirt poor and sold paint out of the back of his car. The one thing that he didn’t have is the government housing and feeding him.
To sum up my thoughts, Romney says that this is the land of opportunity for everyone. Obama says look at what the government can do for you. Which of these ways of thinking is in the best interest of the Black Community?
Your make several misleading parallels and poor assumptions in trying to make this point. I do understand what you are trying to say, but let me correct the mistakes before I address the thought.
Frist, I did not say Obama can relate to black people better than Romney ONLY because of his dark skin. I said that his race coupled with his plight, and his living among them and learning their attitudes, and thoughts. It is IMPOSSIBLE for Romney to have a better connection or relate better to black people and he has NEVER lived among them OR even himself tried to understand where they are coming from. Obama has done both. With that being said Obama is in an elite class. This class does lose touch with reality of the poor and middle class sometimes. I don’t think Obama has lost touch, I think he just does what EVERY POLITICIAN regardless of color or party does…he does what he thinks is best for himself and his career. He has bent over for the ultra rich and rich just like Bush did. He caters to the oligarchy that runs this nation from the shadows with money, power, greed and corruption. He is only slightly better than any Republican President.
Second, you are attributing George Romney’s actions to Mitt. Mitt by his own admission said he does not know what it is to be poor..and that he is not going to apologize for growing up affluent. Now you want to assign some merit to the fact that he had predecessors who were poor. Money changes families. In his case it makes him believe he is BETTER than 47% of Americans. How can poor black or white people relate to him at all?
Third, you say there is a CLASS of people that the system is designed to keep poor and uneducated. Then you proceed to allude to black people as if this is the class of people you are talking about. Well, I have news for you. There are 15 million more poor white people in this country than poor black people. Is the system designed to keep them poor and uneducated also? In addition, what system is in place for them to vote republican , like 50% of them do, when that is against their own best financial interest? You all want to get rid of welfare…so how is it that white people on welfare vote for the people who want to end it? lol Anyway, this is the land of opportunity. I agree 100% . But this is NOT the land of LEVEL playing fields. And any attempt to make the playing fields level is met with such hate by white people and the Sambos you all convince that they are better than other black people, that it seems as if the playing fields will never be level except in sports. So, although 24% of black people are still at or below the poverty line, 76% of them are not. This means the propensity of white people like yourself to believe that MOST black Americans are poor, uneducated, and bringing this country down is based on ignorance and prejudice…NOT FACTS.
Which brings me to my last point. NOBODY AND I MEAN NOBODY (except those of you who are trying to be dishonest or dramatic) believes ALL white people are racist. We don’t even believe MOST white people are racist. What we KNOW is that are a group of white people (the estimate by the white guy who studies race in America …TIM WISE IS 30%) who see themselves as superior to black people. This group of people because of their racial bias and animus, when they get into positions of power , use their positions to discriminate against black people. This happens even though many of them don’t think they are racist. But here is the problem MOST RACISTS KNOW THEY ARE RACISTS….but they are not courageous enough to admit it for fear of reprisal. So, we can not truly know who is actually racist or not except by their actions. Therefore, since white employers throw resumes with black sounding names in the trash no matter how qualified the person is (which they do) , when white Judges give black people 3 times as much jail time as white people, when blacks get turned down for loans at a higher rate..even with the same credit and financials, and all of the other things that point to the system treating blacks as second class. Then we have no choice but to conclude that there are a group of white people who just simply don’t like black people because of the color of their skin.
Now, before you say Black people are racist too. I agree, there are some black racists maybe even 30%. But for the most part black people who don’t like white people, don’t like them because they themselves or someone they know personally has been mistreated by white people. I am not saying they should paint all white people with a broad stroke. I am just saying there are PERSONAL experiences that they are drawing from. For MOST white racists, they believe what they believe because of propaganda and/or demonization of black people from a source with an agenda not from personal experience.
So, what’s best for the poor black community is also best for the poor white community. And that is COMPASSION, EDUCATION, VILLAGES RAISING THE CHILDREN, UNITY, AND POOLING OF RESOURCES. Welfare helps more than it hurts…if we can get people to not feel like they are second class because they need a little help. And when I say a little help, I am referring to the fact that 80% of welfare recipients are on it for less than 5 years. This myth that most of them spending their entire lives receiving hand outs is just BS designed to demonize the poor.
Thanks Andre. Although you danced around the Romneys and their involvement in the Civil Rights movement, you validated my point.
I am aware that there are more poor White people in the United States than there are poor Black people. Go back to my original post and you will see that I was making an observation about Obama and his following within the Black Community. If you go back and read my previous posts, I you will also note that I never said anything about doing away with welfare. The problem is that because of the way it is set up, it is designed to keep poor people in their place. If you want a welfare system that works, it needs to give people a hand up instead of a handout. Too many families have been on it for generations and housing projects a condition that too many people are unable to find their way out of.
I didn’t dance around the Romneys. I said it has NOTHING to do with Mitt. Which it doesn’t! Mitt would not march in a civil rights march even if he had a black son in-law. That was my point. How can generations of poor people be on welfare for all of their lives when more than 80% of welfare recipients are off of welfare in 5 years or less?
And, what is the conservative solution as to how it should be set up? Because the conservatives I know want it gone altogether….INCLUDING ROMNEY.
Do your homework. Romney doesn’t want welfare gone. He wants to get the Feds out of the welfare business so that it can be run efficiently.
Why does he care about it being run efficiently?
Because that is the kind of man that he is. The money comes from people like you and me…and Romneythrough taxes. Aren’t you interested in seeing that money used in a way that gives the most benefit to the most people?
I happen to believe focusing on 1% of the economy …the waste in welfare…is just emotional and political game playing. We WASTE more in one week in the defense budget than all year for welfare. I think we should tackle the big problems before focusing on the small ones. It is must not economically smart to spend so much time and effort on the waste in welfare.
The amount of money that the Obummers have spent on vacations would take care of many housholds for the rest of their lives…
Just sayin’ ☺
The amount of money that the military WASTES IN A MONTH would do that also. The two rounds of bailouts for the banks would have given us the strongest economy in the history of our nation and the world had it been given to the people and not the banks. But the have definitely didn’t want the have nots to have an opportunity to become HAVES.
I’ll never defend the wastefulness of the govt. That’s why you need TRUE conservatives to shrink it back down to size and quit taxing and running up the debt.
True conservatives don’t really want limited govt. They just what to limit the things they don’t like.
YES!
NO, that would be libs.
True conservatives want the government to return to following the constitution. They want it to end defict spending and minimize its interference in our lives.
The fed gov has no business in the insurance business, telling us what size toilets or how to educate our children.
True conservatives don’t realize that they are anit-constitutionalists.
It IS the government’s job to PROTECT it’s citizens from tyranny…even if it is corporate and domestic.
Are you kidding me? It’s the GOVERNMENT’S job to protect the US citizens from TYRANNY? Tyranny is a government gone wrong. How can the government protect the citizens from a government gone wrong? The CONSTITUTION was put in place to keep government from overstepping their bounds. Conservatives defend the Constitution for that reason. You contradict yourself.
Is it your contention that Governments are the only people capable of tyranny?
And like I said, most of you don’t realize that you are Anti-Federalists….NOT Constitutional proponents. You just helped my point.
That statement was so…I don’t even have the words for it…We want a return to Constitutional roots, Andre. And the Government, as laid out in the Constitution, is…small…like your capacity to understand anything beyond your narrow point of view.
Zach, buddy, you are wrong. Have you studied the difference between the Framers of the Constitution (who were for the constitution and a strong federal government) and the Anti-Federalists who gave us the Bill of Rights because they were AGAINST a strong federal government? You all are Anti-Federalists…not Constitutional Proponents…you just don’t know it..with all due respect.
…or that our children have to pray to Allah in our American schools!!!…and much, much more. Better start paying attention…
Malcolm X, one smart brother (killed by the Muslim Brotherhood), here’s what he has to say:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BYVv4LY_KQ
What is your point? Are you trying to say that blacks should vote for Republicans who believe blacks are less than human because Democrats are incompetent and are just as bought and paid for as the GOP?
If the choice is between an Ally who is corrupt and an Enemy who hates me…I am voting for the corrupt Ally…at least if I get enough money I can buy the Ally off. The Enemy will hate me at all costs.
Take Senator Rand Paul’s plan to save Detroit. You have that mentality of the poor, victimized black man. That is exactly what hurts young black people. That is drilled into their young minds and they are handicapped because of it.
I am FAR from poor, but, i have been a victim of racism a number of times. However, that was not the topic. The topic was why should I vote for an enemy who hates me just because the Ally is corrupt?…especially when the enemy is just as corrupt.
You didn’t answer the question.
The NOI is not the Muslim Brotherhood…lol
I am a huge Malcolm fan. But you know once he left the NOI that he came to his senses right? It is funny that you want to use Malcolm’s words while he was a Muslim and saying all White people were Devils. Should I believe those words too?
Exactly. And we don’t like BIG GOVERNMENT.
That’s fine…but don’t PRETEND like you are proponents of the Constitution when you are actually against what the framers of the Constitution were for.
I am all for getting rid of most of the Government. But you all only want to get rid of the parts of Government created by Democrats..its political..not principle.
I am pragmatic more than ideological. If it were me..i would say scrap the Constitution all together and start over. It is outdated and archaic. But, i realize most people are too “traditional” and emotional about such things. So, it is up to us to get big business and the ultra rich out of our government so we can vote for what we want instead of having it dictated to us by the Oligarchs who have hijacked our system and are destroying our middle class.
That is based on traditions and propaganda….not any goal to protect Americans.
No, those are the rinos. and also liberals, That’s painfully obvious.
so the poor can die off…. namely, the minorities, because who needs them? WHITES RULE! Did I say tht correctly, KKK???????????
Oh yes, you are exactly right. IDIOT. The govt. should be small and inexpensive so people are done paying taxes in Jan instead of June. That way people have money to buy goods and services, that employs people making them self sufficient and NOT on welfare. Did you not understand the difference between getting rid of welfare and getting rid of the NEED for welfare?
yes, we rule, but don’t forget, this mooley wouldn’t have been elected without whites.
Welfare has been a disaster for blacks. It is responsible for the children that this teacher has attempted to teach. They will never escape poverty because of their values and choices. This ghetto gangster culture is a creation of welfare and other government handouts. The only cure is to end welfare for all able bodied people. The need to stop living as parasites and get jobs. Jobs and responsibility will put an end to this evil culture.
Again, you are saying things that you have been conditioned to believe and haven’t studied or thought about seriously at all.
I will give you ONE thing to think about. If people never get out of poverty because they get on welfare then the amount of people in terms of sheer numbers of people on welfare would be astronomical by now. Think about it, EVERY YEAR millions of NEW people apply for welfare. So, for 45 years the number would be increasing! If only 1million new people per year were added to welfare and none of the who were on welfare got off there would be over 100 Million people on welfare right now. In addition, the poverty rates would be going up. In 1971 38% of black people were in poverty. 2012 26% of black people were in poverty. What you believe is simply propaganda used to divide and conquer my friend.
What about the ones who die off?
Talk about conditioned to believe…do you even read what you write?
Reduce the government at the same time.
It’s nonsense like this that breeds something foul-smelling in the mind of the uneducated negro.
IS LAQUINTON YO AFRICAN NAME ?
KKK was started and STILL run by Democrats (LBJ’s little comment), Google it.
Oh, zip it, ya racist.
how about the people that irresponsibly have children they can’t afford and don’t raise well if at all? And they do so because they can get away with it because the govt. takes our money and redistributes it, even though many of us had (or didn’t at all) have families we could afford and spend the time to raise. Keep screaming racism laquinton, YOU are the problem, not us.
My understanding was that IF the bailout money had been given directly to the people, it would have been somewhere in the $40,000 range for every taxpayer. I suspect if it had happened, people would have brought mortgages up to date, and paid credit card bills, “saving” the banks, and buying stuff in general would have stimulated the economy in ways that could have been outstanding. That stimulation would have very likely boosted businesses to the point of adding labor, thus reducing the unemployment rate. Typical government. Holds all the cards, and bets it all on the losing hand.
Ted, that would be taking $40,000 out of your left pocket and putting $30,000 in your right pocket. I keep the $10,000 for putting the deal together. BTW it was your money they used to pay off the bankers and Carter, Clinton and Obama all played intot his game. Bush tried to get a democratic Congress to not do all this crazt crap. Went to them some 19 times and they refused to shut down FM and FM. People posting in here need to read more than a headline or buy what our liberal media is selling. We the people or loseing not Congress and those pulling their strings.
I can only assume you meant that as a joke. You must realize how quickly and insane things would inflate? Andre, what you don’t want to admit is that Democrats have re-enslaved you blacks with entitlements for your vote. Obama knows how to press your buttons as well as Michelle Obama. They know how to “work” you into a froth. This is why they have sent Eric Holder to strike up race baiters in Florida for the Trayvon/Zimmerman trial. You have no clue who he is or the people who have put him in power, but you do sound educated enough, that if you took the time to read anything other than mainstream media, you just might find it.
Irving, you make a terrible assumption that I am an Obama fan. I am not sure why but I am not. But for those who vote Democratic that do so because they want to continue to eat or help other poor people eat I imagine it is emotional. But it is also in their financial best interest even if for just a short time. And a short time means 90% of all welfare recipients are off in 5 years or less. So, this accusation based on emotion and misinformation that it is re-enslavement is absurd. In addition to that, it would be enslaving white people also, since there are more white people on welfare than black.
As for knowing who Obama is, sure I do. He is the Democratic version of W. Bush. He has the plutocrats and wall street greed mongers as advisors just like Bush. Everything he does, with the exception of Obamacare, is designed for the rich to get richer, just like Bush. If he was Republican and hadn’t pass the healthcare act, you all would be calling him the greatest President since Reagan. What is ironic about that is Reagan SUCKED as a President…but because he was Republican and made rich people richer, you all think he was fantastic..smh.
Andre, you are living in a fantasy world. Just because you say it doesn’t mean it is so. Yes Obama is doing much the same as Bush, but us conservatives are upset with Bush as well, so this doesn’t make what obama is doing any better. As far as 90% getting off of welfare, again, your fantasy and not reality. However, you are correct in that more whites are now accepting welfare, but by percentages alone, it doesn’t come close to blacks and you know it! But this is the real problem because obama knows he needs to crush our economy to enforce more of his Socialistic ideals. He needs the whites to get on his gub’ment dole to expedite his plan. If you can’t see this, then your cognitive thinking is not as good as your writing. I implore you to investigate the things obama does and not what he says.
Here are the stats from AFDC —“The majority of families who leave the welfare system do so after a relatively short period of time — about half leave within a year; 70 percent within two years and almost 90 percent within five years.”
That is not my opinion. It is their facts. Second, of course there are more black people on welfare by the percentages because by the percentages we 2 times as many poor. But in terms of sheer number there are 15 million more poor white people.
Lastly, conservatives never said anything about impeaching Bush. Nor did any conservative call him the worst President in history even though he started 2 wars (based on lies) that we could not pay for and caused the worst recession since the great depression. He even outspent ever prior President. If you take away the bailouts and paying for 2 wars that he inherited, Obama would have spent around the same amount as Clinton. There is a double standard and huge amounts of hypocrisy based on simple partisan nonsense that supply you all with your hate of Obama. Obama’s plan is no different than any Republican President’s. That is to demolish the poor, shrink the middle by squeezing us, and allowing the rich and ultra rich to continue to lie, cheat, steal, and even kill to increase their wealth and power. That is why Obama has all wall street elite and bankers as advisors JUST LIKE BUSH, DADDY BUSH, AND REAGAN…striking resemblance to conservative Presidents huh?
Dude, you cannot be that stupid? “He even outspent ever prior President.” Not that your writing makes any sense, but I get your point and you really need to put down that crack pipe. Your fearless negro has DOUBLED the National Debt!!!! For God sakes man, wtfu. Wars? wars make up like 5% of GDP. Go lookup welfare, entitlement & SS as they dwarf any war or defense spending. 1st year rookie politician knows this but you dems just keep harping on your lie like obammy does until you low information voters believe it.
Now Social security and Medicare are Obama’s fault? LMAO. You all hate democrats so much that you will even lie to yourselves to try to discredit them. Smh. YOU ALL are the problem with our country…not social security or entitlements as you call them. You are not even bright enough to know that THEY ARE NOT ENTITLEMENT programs. You just believe what republican strategists tell you to believe because you can’t think for yourself. And Democrats are too dumb to correct you. If I pay into a system (social security, Medicare, or even welfare) IT IS MY MONEY….it is not something for free you clowns! lol
If you take away the stimulus packages that Obama spent because BUSH FUGGED THE ECONOMY BEYOND BELIF….and the 2 WARS that Obama was forced to fund BECAUSE BUSH LIED ABOUT GOING TO WAR…Obama would have spent no more money than Bush. But I don’t expect you to really know any facts. You will just keep repeating what your puppet masters tell you to repeat because you are too emotionally immature to form a critical thought..or a civil conversation.
“Obama would have spent no more money than Bush.” again, you sound like an assclown as all democrats can never take credit for their malfeasance. No one, and I mean no one has enacted more laws to kill our economy than obammy and you think because he keeps borrowing money that somehow he has “saved” our economy. OMG, if you were any more stupid you would have died from natural selection. I have had about a dozen people come by my house to dig through my trash pile so than can make a few bucks, yet your muslim leader thinks he has “saved” us? God I hate how pathetic you sound and you are still blaming bush as only a loser who has never done anything or ever created anything could possibly say. Is there any way you could put a bag over your head and tie it up? You are useless and much worse because you think you are smart. You are a monkey fucking a football…
Like I said, you are not bright enough to support ANYTHING you believe with facts, logic, or critical thought. I was about to post the actual numbers that show reasonable people facts. But, people in cults ignore facts so they can continue to believe their delusions. That, coupled with the fact that you only seem to have a 10th grade education and the emotional immaturity of a 3rd grader, makes me think better of wasting my time by giving you ACTUAL facts and figures.
I am not an Obama fan. He is almost as bad a President as Bush. Not quite…but almost as bad. Jimmy Carter was better President than both Obama and Bush! I also don’t care if he is a Muslim, but if Christians are like you…Muslims are preferred. I am also not a Democrat. I don’t believe in being brainwashed by some lying ass political party who only wants money and power and not a healthy America. Republicans AND DEMOCRATS are ruining this country. But you HATEFUL conservatives are so uninformed and overly emotional that your hate will ensure that in two generations there won’t be enough republicans to win any elections. Your KKK, neo Nazi, Aryan nation and other 19 white supremacist conservative groups will eventually be the demise of your cult of republican hate for anyone who disagrees with you or doesn’t look like you. So, continue to repeat political rhetoric that you are not intelligent enough to understand and ignore facts so you can facilitate your own extinction.
Delusion doesn’t care care about the facts. I never said anything about Obama saving the country, clown. I also never defended Obama’s policies.
You are emotional and angry because I exposed your God Mr. Bush. That is understandable, Cult members don’t like their leaders attacked.
But at least don’t put words or thoughts in my head because you are throwing a tantrum.
Obama is the SAME GUY AS BUSH. You hate that, but it is true. All you have to do is prove anything I said about Bush to be wrong.
Obama sucks! Bush sucked even worse. And the next President will suck too! They are all corrupt and pissing on our heads. The difference is, some of us are not so naive, delusional, and ignorant to believe that either party is going to do any better than the other. The sooner you realize that, the sooner you can be removed from your cult.
The fact is that Obama has never done anything that improved the economy. He expanded the size of the federal gov by 25% and that only hurt the economy. It just created more dependency on gov, more gov employees to regulate us and waste money. Any improvement in our economy has been despite the obstacles Obama has created.
You are just saying that because you are republican or conservative and your entire directive is to protect your team and demonize the others team…no matter what.
Bush presided over the largest peace time expansion of Government in 100 years. Did you complain about that? Also, Do you believe Bush was BETTER for our economy when his Administration took us from a boom to a bust that resulted in the biggest recession since the great depression?
Because he’s a ‘front man’ with a pea for a brain! He wouldn’t have enough brains to do anything besides what he’s told to do…the jerk.
They ALL did, Andre… the last President who tried bucking the system, got shot in the head. The ‘parties’ really don’t matter… that’s the phantasy. They ALL play golf together.
I agree 100%. I have said many times that Obama is almost the same guy as Bush.
When I point out the things that Bush did wrong, it is not to absolve or protect Obama. It is to indict BOTH OF THEM THE SAME and point out the hypocrisy in attacking Obama as if Bush was any better. They play for the same corrupt, greedy, war mongering, killing machine that is out to get all they and their families can get even if it means destroying the middle class, poor, and even America.
But poor and middle class conservatives actually believe some conservative politicians are going to “save” our country. It is complete BS.
ALL POLITICIANS ARE CORRUPT! Until we all come to the same conclusion they will continue to have us fighting among ourselves while they rape and pillage our country.
Andre: When you are dead, you don’t know you are dead. It is difficult only for the others.
It is the same when you are stupid.
I can agree with most of what You are saying here,but to couple Social Security with “Entitlements” is a joke!!S.S. is not an entitlement,but a ponzi scheme that is missing billions payed in to it by anyone earning a check!!Money I’v payed in most of My life will no longer be there when I need it!!If You do the math on all that has been payed in and compound that amount with interest,take all that has not been collected with deaths and so on,it does become a hand out,but for the “government” to steal from!!
btw, AFDC doesn’t mean shit!!! Obammy has all the control over liberal establishments and their accounting practices. They say whatever he wants them to say. Man, if Bush had the power over the media like obammy does, he’d still be president, maybe even king. your man is an ass clown and he makes all blacks look bad and ignorant. Even white people feel so bad for your black legacy that they were ready to elect herman cane.
There were no lies involved in either Afghanistan or Iraq. Both of these were supported by Progressive Fascists and Republicans. You can find just as many Dems expressing support for both wars as Republicans. Saddam just decided to destroy or transfer his WMDs to Syria in the 6 months of dithering it took to start the attack. The Progressive Fascists betrayed our troops in Iraq for politicl advantage when they decided to pretend they were lied to and didn’t vote for the war.
It is unbelievable the amount of propaganda people will accept just because “their side” promotes it.
Powell, Bush, Rumsfeld and others have SAID they made MISTAKES. Powell said..”my instincts failed me”. There are PLENTY of people who admit they KNEW there were no WMD’s before the wars…AND Bush knew it too..but he put pressure on people to advance that narrative to gain support for the wars. We all got lied to…it’s just that some of us KNOW IT NOW..and some of you all who hate to be wrong and have to defend your side at all costs…won’t accept that it was a simply NOT TRUE that there were WMD’s….even when the people who told you they were there admit that they were not there…smh
Just about every intelligence agency in the world agreed with our CIA and thought that Sadamm had WMDs. At the time we decided to attack Iraq Sadamm destroyed his WMDs or shipped them to Syria. Hindsight is 20 20 but people have to make decisions with the best info available.
I think you could make a better argument against Bush’s expectation that Iraq would do great after Sadamm was removed. He was under the same delusion as the progressive fascists in thinking that Muslim societies are peaceful and just. In reality they have no concept of democracy, honesty and integrity. The seem to need a dictator to govern them. Remember how many idiot leftist embrace the Arab Sping and the democracy it was suppose to bring? That was an same delusion that Bush had towards a free Iraq.
http:// http://www.globalresearch.ca/iraq-a-war-of-aggression-no-wmds-no-connection-to-al-qaeda/5327548
If you think Muslims have Killed more people than Christians in this world in the last 50 years, then I have some beach property in the desert sell you.
Is it a CONTEST Andre?
im pretty sure Muslims have killed more then Christians in the past 50 years..Muslims blow hundreds of there own kind up every day..plus terrorist acts like 9/11 etc..your crazy to believe that
Matt…you are mistaken. The FIRST TWO YEARS of the Iraq war we killed 26 THOUSAND Muslim men, women, and children…who were NOT associated with Al Queda. That doesn’t include what happened in Afghanistan. You can add all Muslim terrorist attacks up for that last 20 years and there are NOT 26 thousand victims in ALL COUNTRIES COMBINED.
Now add Desert Storm, black ops, covert missions, drones, and undeclared wars and tell me Muslims have killed more Christians. You are mistaken, my friend.
Show me figures, Andre. And then, go and find the figures that say Muslims have killed fewer.
Zach, you and I both know it would be a waste of time. You have NO INTENTION of changing how you feel or what you think about Muslims. Come on man. Don’t be disingenuous. All you would do is deny the facts by challenging the validity of the numbers by attempting to discredit the source. If you REALLY wanted to know what was true, you would simply do a search and find the numbers yourself. As it stands you just want to go back and forth in a futile debate. I have experienced this too many times to count. I am no longer interested.
But just to show you I am not making things up…
“A December 1, 2011CBS Evening News report told viewers that “more than 50,000 Iraqi civilians were killed in the war” (FAIR Action Alert, 12/2/11)”
You’re…you’re joking, right? Is he joking? Anybody? Please tell me this idiot is joking! Nobody can POSSIBLY be this stupid!
Andre I appreciate your discussion and the efforts you have put in to researching the topics. It seems that each person has their views and has a reluctance to change them. I read the web site you included. I also checked on the organization. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Globalresearch.ca. I believe that the invasion of Iraq was a mistake from the begining not just because of the problems it has caused but the strategic instability it caused in the region. I don’t believe President Bush lied but accepted misleading information because it fit in with his beliefs and those who had influence with him. He also had reports from a majority of intelligence agencies who believed that Sadam was developing weapons of mass destruction. We will probably never know the full truth about the lead up to the war, everything we read is influenced by the beliefs of the writer.
Well the assistant to Colin Powell made statements that were definite that they knew there were WMD’s. But, I understand what you are saying, and agree we will never know the actual truth.
you DONT HAVE any property andre…………just a check from us…………………….dxuchebag
you are a poor excuse for the average leftist dxuchebag. Babble on and on about some “inequality” aand if “only wars were stopped and the money spent on us” There would only be more sorry shiftless aholes milking taxpayers………….i forgot……………BUSH>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BUSH BLAME BUSH>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you hate bush, just like obama hates bush………..you love more taxpayer cash, he loves a mouthful of reggie………………………………………………………….dxuchebag
Not even Bush advances such nonsense. Why would you make up a story that those who were involved didn’t use?
ANDRE – Mark Twain once wrote ‘It is easier to fool people, than convince them they have been fooled.’ NEVER in the history of this nation, has this statement rang TRUER than it does today. You seem like a pretty intelligent, rational thinker – don’t let YOUR emotions conflict with your ability to reason w/unabashed truths
I never make decisions based on emotions. Harriett Tubman said, “I could have freed many more slaves, if i could have convinced them that they were slaves” That holds true for MOST Americans regardless of party alliance.
It is law that you can only be on AFDC for a total of five years.
Yes, for the vast majority..there are a few exceptions though. But, I agree with you overall. So, I wonder why poor and middle class conservatives attack AFDC recipients as if they have been on welfare all their lives.
Check out this post, dude.
http://www.humanevents.com/2014/02/14/is-the-tea-partys-dream-an-illusion/#comment-1249001124
Check out this post, dude…..
http://www.humanevents.com/2014/02/14/is-the-tea-partys-dream-an-illusion/#comment-1249001124
How has Obamacare helped the poor people get richer? By causing their premiums to rise? By causing the cost of their deductible to rise? By causing their employers (for those that do work) to cut their hours to less then 29 hours a week or terminate their employment all together, or not hire those looking for work? Where do you think all those insurance dollars go in the end? They go to the already rich people that are higher up in the insurance business..
Let’s look at who has been duped. Welfare by definition is NOT ENTITLEMENT. Entitlement is something a person DESERVES because they did something and can expect something in return…like paying into social security and getting benefits later. Pressing emotional buttons is what rich republicans do to poor and middle class republicans in order to get them to vote against their own best financial interest. The fake Christian politicians that use “social conservatism” to get the unsuspecting to believe they actually care about God, equality, patriotism, or American lives when ALL THEY CARE ABOUT ARE THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR GREED. In addition, they pander to the overly emotional and indoctrinated bigots in order to take advantage of all the prejudices that they can. That is why all white supremacist groups consider themselves conservatives and vote republican.
Let me tell you what is truly ironic about you saying I don’t know who Obama is. Obama is almost a clone of Bush…lol. Yet because he is a Democrat and you all have affiliations with POLITICAL PARTY NONSENSE rather than looking at reality, you believe that Obama is somehow is the polar opposite of Republican Presidents. Well, Obama has mostly wall street clowns as advisors. Obama, is as big a war monger as Bush. Obama governs for the rich..not the poor (with the exception of the healthcare act). Obama spends like conservative Presidents. In fact the only thing he has done better than any recent republican Presidents is create jobs..and even that is at a slower pace then it should be. If he were a Republican President you all would think he was great…just like Reagan…who was a joke.
Reagan WAS a joke…as a president, that is. He smiled through it all while Nancy ran it all behind his Alzheimer back.
compared to the clown you voted for last, reagen is moses you dxuchebg
Since Moses as a joke too…that means nothing.
Welfare is termed an entitlement because those who receive it BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE ENTITLED TO IT. They believe that the government owes them a living. To normal people, entitlement means quid pro quo, yes, but that is not how the word is used today. You are kind of proving our point with your own arguments.
But the funny thing is THEY ARE ENTITLED TO IT…the vast majority of them anyway. 80% of all welfare recipients are off assistance in 5 years or less. That means they will spend another 40 years of their lives paying taxes into the system. Is it your contention that these people are not entitled to some help from a system that they pay taxes into for 40 years if they fall on hard times?
You’re forgetting welfare is a double sided problem. The people taking aren’t contributing to the GDP either. They need to produce too
That is not going to change if welfare goes away. There will just be more crime, more homeless people, and more people starving to death.
truth. But if it were changed, they would have to change hiring/employment laws…. so people who are cut off of welfare have a fighting chance.
what laws? how about changing all of the socialistic rules that keep the poor from ever achieving their american dreams. do you think all of those “rich” guys were handed a silver spoon? all most all of them started with nothing but opportunity and democrats take away opportunity every time they create another law or tax.
that is a fallacy and another libtard statement that obviously you have been programmed to think. just the opposite. people will do what they need to do when they have to. and that doesn’t mean more crime. but when your libtard politicians take away your property rights as well as force you to pay them to start your own business and then keep paying their “permit” and other taxes, it keeps the “little” guy from ever making it. this is the dichotomy of the poor who keep electing liberal socialist democrats to office to somehow offer them “social justice” when in reality, it just chains them to the plantation. welcoming back slavery.
That is just dumb. You all kill me making up things to try to justify your delusion. Poverty is the NUMBER 1 driver of crime. If you want to deny that then it is clear that your cult has replaced your mind with BS. If poverty is the number 1 driver of crime and you make people POORER by taking away even their ability to eat on a daily basis..guess what genius???? Crime will go up! That is simple logic.
You are actually advocating social injustice! Lmao. The saddest part is…YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW WHY you don’t want social justice. You just think your side is right, so you repeat nonsense that you are not even intelligent enough to understand. Sometimes I feel so sorry for poor and middle class conservatives because you have no idea you are the chickens who are voting for KFC to run the country…smh.
WELL THEN THAT REQUIRES CHANGING EMPLOYMENT LAWS! If some1 got busted wit weed, they shouldnt be banned from working around kids… only child abusers should be banned from tht. A lot pf people would gladly get jobs if they had every opportunity to get them…lolz
How about not breaking laws? How about not smoking weed? I seem to get by without doing drugs, are you saying I have superior intellect and willpower? Because if I don’t, than YOU can say NO.
No one who is busted with weed is prevented from working with children. Well unless they are selling or are already working as a teacher. It is felons who have problems finding jobs.
Why is it that so many blacks refuse to get an education or stay out of trouble?
How many do you believe that is?
You are correct that ’employment’ laws need to be changed. People who receive welfare need to be required to get up at 6 a.m. and report to a government facility by 8 a.m. and produce something positive for the community for 8 hours a day to condition them for a real job with higher pay. Whether it’s cleaning up parks and streets or furthering their education so they learn the difference between ‘wit’ and ‘with’.
How about this? Want to work around kids? DON’T SMOKE WEED. In most states it’s against the law.
I guess we can’t chew gum and walk at the same time, right? We are more than capable of addressing BOTH waste in the defense department and in welfare programs. The Obamacare website is a great example of the waste, fraud and abuse that is rampant in government. An expert in IT stated in an interview that a few corporations have entire divisions that do nothing but specialize in government contracts and seek to milk as much from those contracts as possible irregardless of the results.
I agree.
DEFENDING OUR BORDERS, COUNTRY AND INTERESTS IS ONE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT GOV’T IS ACTUALLY SUPPOSE TO DO!
The govt is permitted to do whatever the people elect them to do that is not limited by the bill of rights. The founders wanted a STRONG Federal govt., not a weak one like you all want.
That means the war industrial complex should be able to lie, cheat, steal, and kill with impunity while they enrich themselves and destroy the middle class?
It’s about making people responsible for themselves. The more people there are in the workforce, the more money is put back into the economy.
Not if the Oligarchs and Plutocrats who have been bought off by them conspire to keep middle class and working poor wages so low that the middle class is obliterated.
First of all, that is just your opinion. Plenty of people believe that due to cutbacks in the military, the military is underfunded, not a waste. Secondly, it isn’t the money lost that is important in welfare as much as the fact that we are teaching generations of children that the government is their provider, because they never see anyone in their family getting up and going to a job. As per the article, the problem is the attitude that these children are raised with. The problem is that we are doing a horrible disservice to these children, and to their children too. We are failing to teach them that if they don’t work, they shouldn’t eat. That the american way is to start from the bottom and through hard work and study, you can work your way to the top. That is why we MUST address these issues. It isn’t about the money it’s about the wasted lives.
That is just emotional nonsense based on propaganda and lies. If 80% of people who get on welfare are off in 5 years or less ( which is fact), that means only 20% of welfare recipients are on assistance for more than 5 years. That includes the disable, mentally ill, elderly, and children who become orphaned. The estimate is that 2.7% of all welfare cases are fraud. I believe that is low…but that is the number given by AFDC. I believe it is more like 10% because some don’t get caught. But if 10% of the welfare system is fraud, that means this “epidemic” of generational people on welfare is at best a simple exaggeration and at worst a ploy to divide and conquer by having poor and middle class people blaming other poor and middle class people for the problems in the country, when in reality nothing could be further from the truth.
If we address the corruption in our government, the uneven playing fields, the manipulation of markets and currency , and the artificial depression of wages for the poor and middle class in lieu of perverse profits, I GUARANTEE there will be so few people on welfare that your “concern” will be a simple afterthought not a guiding principle
Wow, what a question. The answer is because it should be run efficiently. Funds are being tossed out to people that could be self sufficient, but choose not to because the government has them covered. Although, for the life of me, I don’t understand how anyone be so complacent to living a life the government funds. It’s by no means enough to live a comfortable lifestyle. People will do what they have to do to put food in their mouths if the government is not there as an enabler to live the welfare life for a lifetime. It just makes sense to want to run it efficiently.
“Although, for the life of me, I don’t understand how anyone be so complacent to living a life the government funds. ”
I am glad you said that…because there are VERY FEW able bodied people on government assistance who are this complacent. You and most conservatives believe a myth. 80% of people who ever receive welfare are off in 5 years or less. 50% are off in less than 1 year.
Your premise about the government being the cause of poverty by enabling people would have to ignore the FACT that there were MORE poor people before welfare existed. The poverty rate for the country as a whole when welfare was enacted was about 25% for all and over 50% for blacks. In 1965 the poverty rate was 14% for the entire country and 36% for blacks. In 2012 …after a decline for years…the poverty rate for the country rose back to 14% but was only 26% for blacks. Welfare hadn’t changed much at all with the exception of the reform that Clinton Admin made by kicking most “life long” welfare recipients off of assistance. The FACT IS welfare has a minuscule effect on ambition and upward mobility. It is HUMAN NATURE to want to do better. So people just need a little more help than others. Think about this…if as many people were life long recipients as you all believe there is..in the last 40 years the numbers would have grown exponentially regardless of the job market right?
You all have to resist the inclination to believe your political pundits just because they say something.
Poverty in this country is now, always has been, and always will be tied to JOBS AND WAGES. Helping people when they are down on their luck for a short period of time when they will likely pay taxes into the system for 40 years is NOT A HANDOUT..it is them benefiting from tax dollars that they contributed…either prior to or after they get assistance.
“Welfare cheats” is just an emotional hot button issue created by a LIE that Reagan told about a “welfare queen”. She didn’t exist and you alls concern about it is just a smoke screen used to keep you from focusing on the REAL welfare cheats…CORPORATE EXECS.
You’re confusing wanting welfare gone with wanting THE NEED for welfare gone.
Understood.
Mitt would not march in a Civil Rights march? How do you know this, did he tell you this directly or are you coming to this ASSumption based on your own racism and hatred for white people?
As for welfare – other than those who TRULY need the assistance, yes it should be gone all together. And which study of GOVERNMENT facts do you need to help explain the vicious cycle of welfare and race?
Mitt told my aunt who Marched with Dr. King that he would not March. I don’t do assumptions…but thanks.
Ummmm.. welfare has NOTHING to do with race since the numbers for blacks and whites on welfare are almost identical…which is horrible because whites have had a 200 year head start in economic equality race and blacks are only 40 years removed from Jim Crow.
Sounds like hearsay to me. Wouldn’t be accepted by any court in this country.
Unless you heard this directly from Mitt, it means nothing. Not to be rude, but unless you can provide some hard evidence he said this, then the accusation is nothing more than an accusation of what he may have said.
Side note – many did not march during the Civil Rights movement but in fact supported it.
Was for the welfare stats – I was stating based on the % of blacks, whites, hispanics in the population.
With regard to 2013 AFDC the figures are:
Black 39.8
White 38.8%
Hispanic 15.7
other 3.3
Asian 2.4
To break down these numbers, we look at how many Whites are in the population as a WHOLE. If Blacks make up less 14% of the population and
are almost 40% of all recipients, then they represent about 2.5 times their actual population.
Since Whites are over 50% of the total US pop.,
they represent less than their overall piece of the pie,
population-wise.
Hispanics are at least 15% of the general population,
so they take only about as much as what their population represents.
I read so many on here claiming that more Whites are on welfare than Blacks (true, in terms of raw numbers), yet not accounting for the fact that there are over 4X as many Whites in this country than Blacks! In statistics, you cannot go by mere numbers. Only if the playing field is exactly equal, which is
rarely is!
Q: Hey Andre, would Mitt’s father march with civil rights activists?
A: SEE BELOW
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We weren’t talking about Mitt’s father. We were talking about MITT.
you cant be mormon and love black people…..
Are those the rules?
I AM A MORMON AND LOVE BLACK PEOPLE , YOU MADE A VERY UNINFORMED STATMENT THAT BORDERS ON IGNORANCE
WOW, that’s a pure uneducated and racist remark.
I think that is pure, unadulterated BS. Do some research and see how many folks in countries outside the U.S. who are black and other races and are Mormon. And I am not a Mormon.
Some of my best friends are MORMON AND BLACK, YOU IGNORAMUS.
Speaking as a non-Christian, what is there to love? 95% of blacks are low-IQ, sexually and violently impulsive, irresponsible, entitled animals.
Actually, based on their % of the population, there are factually MORE black people in poverty than whites. Simple statistics dictates this, something I am sure Andre has NO concept of.
You just contradicted yourself. In your previous comment. “Welfare helps more than it hurts…if we can get people to not feel like they are second class because they need a little help. And when I say a little help, I am referring to the fact that 80% of welfare recipients are on it for less than 5 years. This myth that most of them spending their entire lives receiving hand outs is just BS designed to demonize the poor.” On this last comment you state, “If you want a welfare system that works, it needs to give people a hand up instead of a handout. Too many families have been on it for generations and housing projects a condition that too many people are unable to find their way out of.” You can’t have it both ways. The latter, of course, being more truthful as we see it happen all the time. People take advantage of welfare. It should be for the elderly and the handicapped. Teens know that if they have a child out of wedlock or even just before they are able to provide for them on their own, they will get government assistance like foodstamps, TANF, Medicaid, and WIC. If they knew the responsibility of having a child would be completely on their own shoulders, they would make wiser decisions about when and how many children they should have. I would hope that would be a deterrent. This alone would make a huge change. I would like to add that in my experience that blacks, except for the very rare I can count on one hand, are very racist and believe they are entitled to anything because of their ancestors having been slaves and mistreated by whites. Why would you want to continue to carry the weight of that on your shoulders, as a people, when it just makes you aggressive and it causes other races to ward themselves off from blacks. It causes friction that there is no need to have now. I have experienced it. I worked with an intelligent black young man in an office of all white people. I was the first hispanic to work in that office. I never had any problems with them being racist (although technically I am considered white), but we all know what I’m talking about. This young black man was hired because he had the education behind him to fill the position. Race was never an issue with this company. The first day he walked in, he had a haughty demeanor and looked at everyone with his head tilted up in order to look down on them. He never smiled or joked back with us. It seemed like everything we said had some connection with being racial. He caused very noticeable tension in the workplace within that small office. He made us feel uncomfortable to the tune they had to dismiss him because we felt threatened by his behavior. He even brought his mother to show her his workplace and the very classy looking black woman behaved in the exact same manner. She never smiled at any of us and graced us with the same haughty demeanor. She walked in with her chin tilted up, never smiled, walked right out the same way. Black people bring that upon themselves with that kind of attitude. It is true, also, that the majority of black students think the color of their skin dismisses them from learning anything. It’s like they are reared to believe this is true, that they don’t have to or can’t do as the white kids do. It is very sad. They are just as capable as the white children to learn the same skills they need to make a better life for themselves. If with each passing generation the parents taught them to do even a little bit better, they would rise out of that mentality that seems to handicap them. Of course, if you run around with sagging pants or dressed up like a gangster, that will make people apprehensive about being around them and that will cause you to think they are being racist. Same thing goes for hispanics who feel the same way about whites. If you dress like a thug, you will get a reaction from the people around you that a thug would get. It’s just common sense. If you don’t want that kind of behavior directed towards you, you should dress for the part and leave that chip on your shoulder buried away somewhere. Give yourself a fighting chance.
Looks like we agree to me.
I totally agree. Years ago my sister was divorced and had 4 children. No child support. She had a job that paid about 15k. She went to get assistance and was told she made too much and needed to quit her job. Now instead of the system being set up to help her until she received annual raises and could sustain herself it wanted her to be completely dependent on government assistance. That way she was stuck and always stagnant.
The fact you are missing is that Romney was honest about things, People will vote for a check, and some people would not vote for him no matter what he could do. Obama doesn’t know what it’s like to be poor. As far as living among them, he learned how to play them, and they bought his BS hook, line, and sinker. There are more blacks out of work and in poverty than ever before, One thing the black community does very well is distribute blame. It’s always someone’s fault. How come the poor white kids do better in school? Maybe at some point you question the values. He was right about this being set up to keep them dependent. Look up LBJ’s quote on the black vote.
maybe the poor white kids do better in school, is because they give a damn about their education, and do their homework.
Obama holds black people in contempt. That’s why he lies to them so much. He can manipulate them with his lies and has done so frequently.
The only thing Obama cares about is his progressive fascist ideology and himself.
With the exception of the ACA…Obama hasn’t done anything to help the middle class or poor. How can you call a guy who has governed more conservatively than any one in recent history…fascist?
LOL – Based on the responses here Andre, I’d say you’re loosing. Adding volume to your diatribe isn’t working.
That’s fair. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
you are truly helpless and I feel badly for you
Likewise, Likewise
Obama’s has a lot of black friends now, all athletes, movie star’s, any black with over a million in the bank is friends with Obama , and really if republicans want the black vote the only way they will get it is by nominating one. I remember when they wanted C. Powell to run as a rep. and all the blacks were gonna vote for him. so maybe white people can learn something from this, if they stick together America can once again become a country to be proud off,
Mark is RIGHT in the respect that Mitt Romney would be willing to do MORE to RAISE BLACKS FROM POVERTY than Obama. Obama is just USING the blacks as a “tool” to further his own ILL GOTTEN GAINS. He doesn’t give a fat rat’s a$$ about the poor ANYONE in this country. The MORE people he can put on welfare, the MORE people he has under “GOVERMENTAL CONTROL”!!!!!
They’re just “votes”…much like the 30 million illegals he’s trying so hard to ram down our throats!
Where in the hell did you get that information from? His mother remarried an Indonesian who was an executive in the oil business. His Grandmother was a bank VP! He went to the most exclusive private school in Hawaii………..Don’t lie.
Thanks Miss, he mentioned he knew what it meant to be poor, that does not equate to him actually being poor. In his memoir he says he grew up middle class. I stand corrected.
He still has more in common with poor black Americans than Romney tho..lol. Can we at least agree on that?!
No I can not agree. You think because Obama lived among them he understands them. If he lived among them that is all he did. Romney on the other had has donated more of his money and yes he has a lot to donate than Obama ever has thought of donating. Romney has walked among the poorer class and listened to them. One thing you need to understand here, Romney is of LDS faith and they give more than other religion. He has helped out at shelters in person, soup kitchens and even national disasters. Obama flies over them and says, “Yep that’s a disaster.” Obama was never poor. He was groomed for this position his whole life. A person who was raised poor would never have Obama’s pizazz as much as I hate to say it. If you put him next to Romney the only difference between them in actions, education and similarities is one is proud to be an American and the other one is black. That’s it.
romney believes tht blacks are cursed because they are decendents of the angels who rebelled in heaven. mormons believe we are literally satans spawn…. so how could we have ANYTHING in common with him??? he hates us!
That is the problem with people like you, you don’t know what you are talking about. I had very good black LDS friends when I lived there.
It sounds like to me, Laquinton, that you have been served up a heaping helping of Bull Shift.
You may want to go to http://www.blacklds.org/ and check out a reliable source on the relationship with Black people and the Mormon Church.
I have spent a lot of time in Salt Lake City and have found no remnants of the type of racism that we have witnessed in the South. Even back in the 50’s and 60’s everyone, regardless of race went to the same schools. There wasn’t any of that Black people have to go around to the back of the restaurant to eat, noone was required to ride on the back of the bus and everyone drank out of the same drinking fountains. I have a few friends who’s parents moved there to get away from the racial tensions in the South after WWII.
If you were able to ask Mr. Romney what he thinks about Black people, I would bet my life that he would tell you that they are his brothers and sisters just like everyone else.
You don’t think Romney would lie? You think a politician (black or white , republican or democrat) would be HONEST about a feeling he had such as hating blacks, gays, muslims…etc? Surely you are not that naïve?
I think that if Romney was in a room full of racists and they were running black people down, he would see to it that they knock it off.
You are entitled to your opinion. I can’t say if I know if he would or wouldn’t to be honest. However, him being a racist is not the issue. It is would he LIE if he were?
You are so ignorant about whites, and have been proven wrong so many times, and all your comments voted down unanimously over and over again, that you are obviously only here to bitch and moan. You lost old boy. Pack your shit up and go home.
Well Laquinton with people like you he can’t and frankly neither could I. I think it is more like you hate him because of his skin color. I am not Mormon but lived among them for many years. Just like your religion, you do have one don’t you, you have some good ones and some bad ones. Romney is a good man and that is the sad part.
Laq. so how is it so many blacks are Mormons ? You need to watch something other than CNN or MSNBC. Read for a change. Really ask yourself why does the news media “want” you to vote a certain way. What do they have to gain, wat is their agenda. What is best for America as a whole, for my State, City, family. Who has the background to a country, a neighborhood organizer who no longer has a valid Law degree/Lic. Are someone that moves millions and knows how to save money doing it. Who has loaned money to start up company’s, has run company’s, written paychecks. Someone who does not hide his past as obama has done. This country voted for the dark side ( being a ref. to Star Wars only ) and we will, our children will and their children will pay the price for this fool of a president and his shameless wife.
I was a Mormon. We had lots of blacks in our church.
D, you are defending a guy who said 47% of Americans are takers. That SCREAMS that he doesn’t respect or care about poor people. The LDS church until recently were as racist as KKK members. They believed black skin was a curse from God. Romney has also made numerous statements about how culture makes some people better than others. Giving to charity is a TAX WRITE OFF…it is not because he cares…stop the madness.
Are you Insinuating that the President of the U.S.A ..the first black one…is not proud to be an American?
Yeah I’m defending him even though the 47% is probably wrong. I think the 47% is probably the people who work in the U.S. so do the math. No that screams we have a percentage of takers, it doesn’t say nothing about respect or care. If the LDS church can change just think how harmoniously we could if the black community can do the same. What was that in the bible about Cain and Abel? What Romney said was culture makes some people better OFF than others. If you don’t understand that you might as well give it up. Yep it’s a tax right off and if that means he doesn’t care what is Obama’s problem with giving? I am talking about his own money not tax payer dollars. Yes I am insinuating that. I was at Normandy when he gave his ridiculous speech. Boy the French didn’t know what to think about it. He is the first black/white President and don’t you forget that.
You are defending Romney, not because he is a better candidate, just because he is Republican. He did a horrible job of running his own state. After you get done with all of the rhetoric, it is impossible for Romney to relate better to poor black people than Obama. For you to continue to try to justify such nonsense shows you can’t be objective. The inability to be objective means you don’t really care what is true, only what you think and feel. That is part of what is wrong with this country. Everyone wants their “team” to win and be right, when the ONLY thing we should care about is WHAT IS TRUE.
Oh Andre Andre Andre. You silly person. I am not defending him because he is Republican. I prefered Bill White over Annise Parker because I thought he cared more about the people and lo and behold he was a Democrat. I will defend anybody who truly cares about this country. Obama? Please. Allen West would be better and he would get my vote. All you people care about is spreading the wealth and I don’t feel like sharing anymore. Jesus the Royal Family cost more than the real Royal Family. Andre, you are racist. The only reason you stand up for the King is because he is one of your own. Care about poor blacks. No he doesn’t and he never will. You guys are to silly to see it. What has he done for you? Name me something Andre. I will tell you what he has done. He has set your people back 30 years with all the garbage he has spewed. You hate whites more now than ever and that is what the shame is. Go hide in a hole if you don’t understand.
Rhetoric, Rhetoric, Rhetoric. Allen West? You can’t be serious. People are so gullible to believe Politicians are telling the truth about their what they believe and want. He is a typical politician that lies to get people like you to believe he is a “conservative”. He may vote conservative, but he just does it because he thinks they are good political moves. You have no idea who really cares for this country because you don’t yourself. You believe a person who is trying to move this country forward by calling attention is a racist. Nothing could be further from the truth. I hate white people? Go to my Facebook page and see the over 300 white people on there. See that my God daughter is white. My best friend in the world is white. The Godfather of my son is white. You just try to deflect because you don’t want to discuss the REAL issue of race in this country. Why is that? Why is it such a taboo topic for white people?
Saying I am defending Obama because he is black is just silly. That means I would also defend Allen West, Armstrong Williams, Larry Elder, and other clowns like these. I would not have voted for Herman Cain if he were running against Hillary Clinton. So, please stop with the empty rhetoric and just ADMIT that it is impossible for a White, conservative, republican, rich kid who for the life of him can not understand the plight of poor people..much less poor BLACK PEOPLE…to be more in touch with poor black people that Obama.
This does not mean Obama has done a great job. I will say again, I am not an Obama fan. He is only slightly better than Bush at protecting the rich and shafting the middle class. It’s like he and Bush are on the same team. But, you all can’t see it because he has Democrat in front of his name…so, rather than look at the fact that he is the most Conservative Democratic President that we have had in 50 years, you all just look for reasons to tear him down. The hypocrisy is that you didn’t do that to Bush and they are almost the same President with the exception of the Health Care Act. And to answer your question: The Health Care Act is what he did for the poor.
Well I am sorry Andre. What is the real issue of race? What has he done for your people?
If my people are on wall street or part of the rich and the Ultra rich, he had done a lot for them. Just like Bush.
What?
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/bhmcensus1.html
For your info just in case you didn’t know.
I don’t understand this at all.
You are asking “what has he done for MY people”. I am saying that people on wall street, the rich, or the ultra rich are the only ones that Obama has helped. Bush had exactly the same agenda.
So the lesson learned here is never trust a politician, no matter who they are.
Romney’s 47% comment was taken so out of context that you can’t make a valid point with it. It has nothing to do with anyone’s character, and everything to do with who he thought they should target to get enough votes to win the election.
The only person that’s character is in question is the guy that made the video without Romney’s consent, and the media who presented it out of character.
I read “Manchild in the Promiseland” you think I know what it’s like to grow up and live in Harlem.
Not, if you didn’t grow up in Harlem.
Obama did not grow up poor. See my other post. Obama and Jesse Jackson wished Obama was ‘more Black’ back in the day when they were grooming him for president. He did NOT obviously, grow up in the South or inner city (and poor) and experience the Black church as so many politicians did. He was, and remains, an elitist.
I conceded that he grew up middle class a few posts ago. I also posted that he is basically a clone of Bush with the exception of the Healthcare act. So, yes, he is elitist.
Andre, Your foolish comment implying that all Conservatives demonize the poor is a complete and utter lie. AND YOU KNOW IT. You are so filled with hatred for anyone who opposes you ideologically, that you will believe anything (true or not) as long as it degrades those you disagree with. You depend on the ignorance of the uninformed to find credence in your hate filled rhetoric, because without out their lack of intelligence your own words expose you as NOTHING more than a Progressive sh*t disturber. You thrive on keeping the pot stirred. It’s a telltale sign of ignorance and bias in ALL race baiters regardless of their ethnicity. This isn’t a blanket statement but an opinion derived from your OWN comments. Andre, you’re a blithering idiot. Get help.
I said nothing of ALL conservatives doing anything. I didn’t even imply it. Now, if you want to PRETEND like the majority of conservatives don’t demonize the poor and exalt the rich by protecting their greed, then that is just fine. But, don’t project your emotions on me because you disagree with what I say. I am fully capable of having CIVIL conversations with people I disagree with and not resort to name calling. However, I am not now, nor will I ever be, a punching bag for the immature and overly emotional people who have been indoctrinated by some ridiculous ideology that is based on rhetoric and BS not facts. That goes for conservatives and liberals. If you all could take your emotions off the table and have logical discussions about what could move this country forward you would really be patriots. As it stands everything you accuse me of it this rant is exactly what you exhibit. You don’t know me, nor have I said anything disparaging to you and yet you hate me. Well that is fine, but please don’t say that I hate anyone simply because they disagree with me, because you have NOTHING to support that.
As for ANY fact that you find is untrue, I welcome the challenge to defend it. If not, just continue your hating based on emotion.
I don’t hate Andre, I merely call them as I see them. I stand by every word I said. You can play the hapless victim all day long, I could care less. Calling Conservatives greedy because they don’t want give more than their share of what they earn away in taxes is a farce. Political hacks on BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE use tax money to buy the votes they need to stay in power. (excessive entitlements, union paybacks, inside and back room deals etc). There are people who genuinely need help and can’t get it because these corrupt politicians are using the funds to hold on to their power. So, if you think I will cower before you simply because of race you’re nuts. And political correctness is a one sided pity party and shame fest that doesn’t start coming close to phasing me. How convenient of you do totally ignore the greedy rich people, like Al Gore, Pelosi, the Clinton’s, sports celebs, music celebs and the Hollywood elite (to name just a few) in your list of ‘greedy’ people. I’m sure they may be willing to give you instant credibility because they feel guilty simply for being born of a certain race. They are easy marks for your tripe. But I live in the real world where a man earns respect by the quality of his character and his actions, not by the color of his skin. Pontificate all you wish. YOU only serve yourself under the guise of caring for the poor. It’s all a sham. Quote from your post. “Now, if you want to PRETEND like the majority of conservatives don’t demonize the poor and exalt the rich by protecting their greed, then that is just fine.” Where in there do you mention any of those I listed? Sounds a lot like an opinion that solely lumps Conservatives into a convenient calderon for you to disingenuously stir when and if it helps promote your social/political agenda. The trouble is you need someone with low self worth and low self confidence to feel guilty for that to work. It’s not happening with me. Like I said, nothing but a sham.
You didn’t comment on anything that I ACTUALLY said with the exception of my statement about the majority of Conservatives protecting the rich.
What about the misplaced and immature emotion that most people (including yourself) hide behind in order to engage in willful ignorance that prevents them from seeing what is real? What about this ill-advised affiliation to political parties? What about CIVIL DISCUSSIONS of the facts without personal attacks?
I said nothing about race. How did that even come up? Like I said, if you disagree with any of the FACTS that introduced, then fine, let’s discuss them. But, to make me the topic of conversation when you know nothing about me is just childish and divisive.
What bothers you Andre is that I refuse to fall for your facade of intellectual enlightenment. Whine, piss and moan at someone else. I’ve heard your views. Still not buying the narcissistic, elitist, self imagined sense of superiority. Regrettably, it’s as synthetic as the first day I was exposed to it. You’re wasting your time. I would imagine even one as full of himself as you would have figured that out by now. I guess you just like to read your posts. Be well.
The intellectual dishonesty is staggering. In addition to avoiding sincere questions in an effort to wrap yourself into an emotional cocoon that can’t be penetrated by facts, you also dance a nice little jig around the real issues.
Again you make a very poor assumption. This time it was about me being bothered. It would be immature emotionally and intellectually if I allowed an unwarranted, politically motivated personal attack to bother me. If I were that sensitive, would I have ventured to voice my viewpoints on a blog that is not only full of opposition but also full of persons whose animosity for having their beliefs challenged is only superseded by their lack of self control?
I agree I am wasting my time with you, because a person who refuses to answer honest questions is either a liar or I fighting to protect a viewpoint that has little supporting evidence. Take care.
I don’t care if this post is three months old.
“Obama grew up poor. That is a FACT. Why even challenge it?”
Because it is incorrect. That is why. Obama went to Punahoa private school on a scholarship that was procured for him by his grandparents.
Mark Kaste (NPR), ” In his memoir, Dreams From My Father, Barack Obama recalled how his grandfather pulled strings to get him in.”
He grew up in HI from the fifth grade and had a wonderful childhood. And as a kid who grew up in Detroit during the 1970s I can tell you all about racism…
Lol, thanks for the second correction. I was proven wrong. I have no problem changing my position when I have been given facts that lead to me doing so. Obama grew up middle class. I am clear on that now. Thanks.
You are a good man, Mr. Bonds. May the Lord bless you and yours.
You went too far when you said conservatives demonize poor people.That is just stupid and progressive propaganda. What good does it do for conservatives to demonize the poor?
Obama grew up poor. Then how in the hell was he able to attend the most private exclusive school in Hawaii, with rich whites and politicians kids. Explain this to me. Maybe I am a little slow.
I was wrong about that.
No he was not poor. He grew up in Hawaii with his WHITE Grandmother who was a EXECUTIVE at a bank.
Thanks…I have been corrected and conceded i was wrong about that.
I know this now…thanks.
Laughable, adjective:
of such a nature as to cause laughter; amusing
so ridiculous as to deserve laughter or scorn; ludicrous
a word commonly used by liberal politicians when met with accusations backed by indisputable evidence ex; It is laughable to think that a government agency would purposely target a group, organization, or individual for its political beliefs.
It is laughable that you think government agencies are not run by people who have personal agendas, beliefs, bias, and ideologies.
How people feel personally (racist in this case) does not go away because they get elected to office.
Obama grew up upper middle class. He wasn’t poor.
Obitchboy wasn’t poor, he was raised by his rich white socialist grandparents, went to white schools, and had the best of everything, just like that shaved sasquatch he’s married to. You should get your facts straight and stop regurgitating liberal Hero-Worship talking point.
maybe Mark just meant to say that MItt Romney had more “compassion” for blacks than obama.
He did NOT grow up poor! What have you been smoking???
No he did not grow up poor. He grew up middle class.
And yet in your comment you allude that Romney is racist. Nice. The 47% is fairly accurate. What percentage of Americans work? Do the math workforce vs. population. Romney’s math was correct. When was the last time a presidential election was more than 53%? Romney never mentioned “race” when he made his 47% comment. Your “class envy” has blinded you.
Obama grew up in part, on the grounds of Royalty in Indonesia. He came to an elite school here in HI and acted elite and since he was about 16 told people that he (the foreign student) going to be elected president. Does that sound like a poor oppressed Black child? He would NOT have encountered much racism here in HI, a melting/blending pot society. He would NEVER miss his plane ride to his ultra-elitist trip to HI, Aftrica, etc. He probably laughs at the Blacks for voting for him at around 90% when he is only raising health care Rates, and inflation continues, as he limps to the end of his failure of a presidency. He had backers and plenty of money while he was ‘organizing’ the poor in Chicago. His arrogance is monumental and his wife is elitist also as they both were, in Chicago. In her days as one of Jesse’s Girls, she delighted in NOT working, (Read ‘The Amateur’) though on the payroll. He puts on a good show as he shakes hands with Jay-Z and Beyonce and accepts their huge donations for re-election.
Romney has more caring/serving/benevolent bones in his middle ear than Obama has in his body.
What is your point in disparaging Obama to me? I am not an Obama fan. I have said more than once that he is only slightly better than Bush. I agree he is for the rich and ultra rich…with the exception of the Healthcare Act. But, that doesn’t change anything that I said about him being more in touch with poor black people than Romney.
Buying companies, raiding them, and laying off thousands of workers just to make a buck IS NOT CARING OR BENEVOLENT. The fact remains Romney has NEVER spent a DAY in Chicago poor communities. Romney has never walked the streets in poor neighborhoods and had conversations with poor black people.
As for Obama being elitist, I agree 100%. Jay-Z is elitist now. Does that mean he doesn’t relate better to the “hood” than Romney?
Obama is pretty good at using lies to prey on the fears and racism of blacks in order to gain political power. He did it after Katrina in New Orlean as a Senator when he told them they weren’t getting a waiver of the Stafford act like Fl and Ny because they were black. This was a damm lie because the waiver had just been signed into law despite the fact that he voted against it. Then he did it again when he told the news media to stir up black anger with lie about George Zimmerman and he came out with his my son would look like Trayvon comment.
Politicians lie. To pretend like your side doesn’t lie and manipulate is simply dishonest.
“believe”?? The man stated a FACT ! It wasn’t “wanted” It was DEPENDENT on some form of government assistance. That number has just about reached the 51% mark…a scant year after your community organizer hoodwinked his way into a second term. Name ONE thing that your “Malato Savior” has done for the black community. ONE! Romney told the truth and the liberal media distorted it, as usual. He may be rich but so is Oblamo and that wife of his. You actually think he gives a crap about some poor knee-grows? “privileged,white life”? That sounds a lot like racial profiling….”brother”.
Where did the delusional belief that I am an Obama fan come from? lol. Obama is a Plutocrat bought, sold, and traded just like ALL POLITICIANS. There is absolutely NO DIFFERENCE between Dems and GOP as it pertains to crushing the middle class and protecting the Ultra Rich. It is you all who get so EMOTIONAL about the nonsensical smoke screens that they present who are killing our country.
No…I deal in cold , hard facts. I was just responding to your tirade . Your narrative. You had not yet mentioned your philosophical standing. That, we can whole -heartedly agree upon. Always have to watch that “other” hand. Sad, huh?
If you deal in hard facts…you have to acknowledge the “privileged, white life” that Romney has led…right?
His father earned his keep, so did Mitt. The color of their skin, notwithstanding. “Privileged” ? Well, if you mean in the way it’s defined in the dictionary…yes. Why would YOU want to make it into a negative thing? Sounds like “sour grapes” .Don’t you want to be judged on the merits of your hard work and not on your station in life?
Mitt’s father worked hard. Mitt got a silver spoon…he has never worked a hard days work in his life. With that being said…I don’t begrudge him this. You misunderstand. This discussion was about who had MORE IN COMMON with the COMMON people in this country…Obama or Mitt. It is CLEAR that Obama does. That is not to say that Obama hasn’t become removed from reality as all Politicians become…but when COMPARING these two guys…I am going with Obama as the lessor of the 2 evils.
Of course I want to be judged on my merits…but people in hel.l want ice water too. We don’t get want we want most of the time in life as it pertains to other people, but that doesn’t mean we should stop trying.
Mitt’s father earned his keep. Mitt was born with a silver spoon and probably hasnt worked a hard day in his adult life. I don’t think that is a negative thing…it just is what it is. The conversation was about the difference between Mitt and Barry’s ability to relate to poor people.
Of course I want to be judged on my merits, but people in h ell want ice water too. We don’t always get what we want. But we should still fight for justice and equality. Why is that a negative thing?
I would challenge the part about about Obama growing up poor. His step father was a man of means in Indonesia and his Hawaiian grandparents were not slumming it either. He attended a prestigious school there when he went to live with them.
You are right. I was wrong about that. Someone already corrected me. Thanks.
He didn’t grow up poor…He lived with his Grandparents in Hawaii..(that is what he said) His father was in Kenya and his mother I guess lived with him…whatever it doesn’t matter..I’m still waiting on a real birth certificate. But any way he went to Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard…and you claim he was poor…Like I said he grew up in Hawai..If that is poor I want to live there…There stats don’t even compare to the Continental US. And he paid for IVY league education how????
Right…i was wrong about that.
Right. I was wrong. Thanks.
Obama didnt grow up poor.
Lol, I know, i know…i have been corrected a number of times. Thanks.
Wow Andre-you really do buy into the bullshit & lies fed to you about BO, don’t you? He grew up poor? Maybe somewhat, yet somehow was financed to attend Ivy League schools-by whom we may never know for sure, since the records mysteriously remain hidden; you truly think he doesn’t consider himself better than all the blacks he has duped into voting for him, singing his praises when he in fact has had a horribly detrimental effect on their standard living? Think again! So he made a name for himself as a “community organizer”-in actuality he organized nothing but further poverty for the blacks he grudgingly rubbed elbows with…wake up, see the truth-do some research for yourself on the true origins of this pathological liar, who his mentors are, what they have truly done to the black race you’re so proud of…my children are bi-racial, so some of the article was hard to read, but my son has said it himself-put a bunch of blacks together and they act like monkeys! I will NEVER understand why so many blacks remain Demoncrats, when they are the party that started the KKK, and have for all these years since the Civil War done all that they can to keep blacks “on the plantation”…worked too, as can be seen by the inner cities and the mentality of those who reside there! If you believe that continuing to hand generation after generation of blacks a welfare check and free project apartment is anything short of racism you are as ignorant as those blacks described in this story!
Why so emotional? lol
Of course Obama feels he is better than most blacks. I am not an Obama fan. He is bought, sold and traded just like EVERY politician. I don’t have any political alliance, ideology, or dogma to protect. I am neither democrat or republican. I am neither conservative nor liberal. I am an OBJECTIVE INDEPENDENT. I am not a Libertarian or any other label that makes people discard, logic, reason, facts, and even humanity towards each just so I can “feel” apart of something and right. I ONLY WANT what is best for my family, community and country.
The reason I explained that for my response is to head the personal attacks off at the pass and to provide assure you that i only care about facts, figures, logic, and reason…not protecting a party or side.
1)Yes Democrats started the KKK. But NOW all 30 + white supremacist groups in this country vote REPUBLICAN. The switch was over CIVIL RIGHTS.
2) Welfare was NOT CREATED FOR BLACK PEOPLE. in fact in 1935 it was VERY difficult for us to even get it. In 1965 when it became really accessible to us the poverty rate was 14% for the country as a whole. It was 36% for blacks. In 2012 the poverty rate for the country as a whole was 14%. It was only 27% for black people. So, if welfare were destroying black people (even though there are about same amount of white people on welfare too) wouldn’t the poverty rate have stayed the same…like it did for everyone else…instead of dropping by 9%?
3) It is much smarter for black people to vote for Allies who are corrupt and incompetent (democrats) than Enemies who are just as corrupt and incompetent (republicans). At least if we get enough money we can buy Democrats because they are for sale to the highest bidder, because (most…not all) Republicans will hate us at ANY PRICE and only accept the bribes from whites.
The sad part is that poor and middle class conservatives vote against their own best financial interest because they are too emotional over what they can take from the poor, black, immigrant, Muslim, women, and gay people instead of being concerned with the ONLY THING that REALLY matters which is the ECONOMICS that affect the poor and middle classes. In fact, they stand at the gates protecting the Ultra Rich and Big Business who have hijacked our government and destroyed our middle class.
What have republicans done for ANY POOR PEOPLE since Nixon?
Well Romney was defintely wrong about his 47% figure. The number is much higher than that. But his overall statement was dead on. Like it or not.
You are entitled to your opinion. I would love to see where you get your figures from however.
You are delusional. Obama did not grow up poor. After is black father left his white mom, he was raised by her and her wealthy Illinois parents, and then she married an Indonesian businessman who did quite well for himself. Obama himself will acknowledge he NEVER saw the “black experience.” Furthermore, assuming someone has experienced racism merely because of their skin color is appallingly racist. I have experienced racism, up front and personal, myself; I just don’t dwell on it the way you do,
Grow up, and learn something.
If you read the posts before shooting off at the mouth, you will see that I acknowledged that i was wrong about Obama growing up poor a NUMBER OF TIMES.
I didn’t ASSUME Obama experienced racism HE SAID he did and I am not judgmental, arrogant, or indoctrinated enough to say he is a liar and never experienced racism like most conservatives say about most of us who say we have actually experienced racism ourselves.
I don’t dwell on the racism I experienced, I work to make it so my children and grandchildren don’t have to experience it. Thanks
You are incorrect. Barack Obama did not grow up poor. He went to one of the most expensive schools in Hawaii; he did not spend time “with poor black communities” in Chicago. He lived in a white section of Hyde Park with the white liberals. He skimmed the surface of the black community to get votes and nothing more. Please cite what he actually did legally or morally to assist blacks in Chicago? He lives in a very expensive home fenced and gated not too far from the University of Chicago where his wife fought hard – not for poor blacks but for rich Arabs to receive medical care at the finest hospital in the city. Mr Cline is correct, Mitt Romney actually held a job, he worked, he struggled – even though he had access to money he didn’t use it – he really helped people. He bought extra milk for a veterans center so they wouldn’t have to go without or raise the fees. He worked with others to develop programs to put people to work. Black skin is the only thing Obama has in common with many blacks.
I am not sure why all of my replies are not showing up…but this is about the 10th time i have said i was wrong about him growing up poor.
My point was not to support Obama. It just to say he had more in common with black people than Romney…and that is true! He worked with and organized for black people in Chicago. Surely you don’t believe Romney has more in common with black people than Obama…right?
Romney believes 47% of people (about 98% of blacks by the way) want handouts. So how is he wrong? I think you just made the author’s point black boy. Let’s face it, there is NOTHING blacks can do for themselves, on this or any continent, including feeding THEIR OWN CHILDREN. Over 90% of blacks are on food stamps, and I have to constantly change the channel on my tv when I see the “poor little starving” black children from Africa on the screen. I’m sick and tired of black people (and rich white liberals) begging for handouts from whites to save their sorry black butts.
And honestly, the best, most hopeful article I have read on black people was an article that explained how, due to massive abortion rates, blacks will be extinct from this country by 2050. That’s the BEST news I’ve ever heard! My only regret is that I probably won’t be around to see it. THANK YOU MARGARET SANGER!
LOL, stuck in the 60’s huh? Want to go back to slavery?…lol. Sorry charlie, we are here to stay and about 100 more years white people (a made up concept by racists) will be the minority because all minority genes dominate when we procreate (do you understand that word) with Caucasians.
If he grew up poor, how did obama get his education from the elite high school he attended?
He did not grow up poor. I got that wrong….i have said it a number of times..not sure why they aren’t showing up.
Thanks.
Obama DID NOT GROW UP POOR!!!! He attended a private school in Hawaii and then very prestigious colleges and universities. Just how did he afford that? Well, the American people can’t know that because he has hidden all his papers and his past – all except that which he ‘wants’ you to know. When Obama was in spending time in black communities in Chicago, he wasn’t living in those black communities….oh no….he had a very nice sizable home in an affluent suburb where the doctors, lawyers and other rich people live. Also, Obama is NOT HALF BLACK…his father, if you believe his father to actually be Barack Obama Sr. and not the man who went on to become his mentor – Frank Marshall Davis – then you can read and learn that Obama Sr. descended from Arab lineage. One thing is for sure – Obama is not now or never was a typical American black. And if you ignore the color of his skin and just look at the content of his character together with his actions, both before and after entering political office, you would realize he did not grow up living the typical American experience for a man of his age.
If you go through the posts you will see that I was already corrected and conceded that I was wrong about that, but thanks for the reply.
Andre, I’ve looked at this whole conversation. You ask for facts and figures, and we have shown them. You, almost unfailingly, refuse to believe them (probably out of fear that your poorly- hidden racism against whites will then be exposed) and then tout your own facts and figures, many of which have been disproven time and again by anyone who has done any real research on them.
This have come an exercise in futility. Andre, I hereby denounce you for the racist troll you are.
Lies don’t help the conversation or our country. You formed your opinion about blacks YEARS ago…your opinion of me has nothing to do with what you have read on here.
The official biography has him in Indonesia during part of his youth, not Africa. Not saying it is necessarily true but that is the official record or something like that.
Muslim is not a race. Otherwise, you are correct.
A guy at Occidental College who hung out with BO said he never socialized with blacks or dated black women when he knew him. Interesting.
But he is Married to a Black woman …and he hung out with all manner of black people in Chicago? Interesting.
It’s an ‘arranged’ marriage. He’s gay.
Where did you get that info from?
Right…he dated MEN!
fuck u, bigot!
What has saying he dated men have to do with bigotry?
This coming from the person who says one can’t be Mormon and like black people.
Bob – I know you meant Arab. He is supposed to be 46% Arab and 4% black. I don’t know how they figure it out, but he’s 100% fraud!
Thanks, bodica!!! You made me laugh and I needed that!
“halve” white and 1/4 Muslim??! You might want to be careful about throwing around terms like “stupid” and “ignorant” when you make mistakes like those. I DO agree, however, with your assertion that Pres. Obama does nothing for the black community. Or the white community. Just the corporate community!
You’re absolutely correct…but he promised them ‘free’ everything…remember!?
Muslim is not a race it is a religion, as is Jewish is a religion, as in Christian. Obama is half white and half black.
The reason some blacks idolize Obama is because he had 3 choices…to accept his duality, or to associate himself with his white side, or what he has done…show himself as a victim of whites. He made a conscious choice, and has proclaimed loudly that he is black! He has screamed for attention to color! No matter what whites have done to correct an issue with the past that they had no part in…it will never be enough for those who identify with being a victim.
Obama may be half white but he’s ALL NIGGER!
What I find hilarious about your comment, and everyone elses comment in this thread… is the amount of revisionists history.
You act as if EVERYTHING across racial lines is equal. EVERYTHING. When the truth of the matter is…. it is NOT.
Through nearly all of American History whites (not all…but most) spent CENTURIES dismantling and destroying blacks. During slavery, and after. Nearly any and EVERY time blacks became self sufficient , not unlike Jews.. whites DESTROYED them. Burned their stores, burned their towns to the Ground. Nearly every time. And MOST of them started by the accusation that a black person harmed a white woman…even though in nearly every case the claim was FALSE!
Atlanta race riots from jealous whites in 1902. White politicians in fear that the blacks were becoming to powerful… influentially, and economically… used media, and influence to stoke the flames of hate, by publishing false claims that white women were being attacked and molested by black men. Some 10,000 white men converged on the city rioted, attacking and killing blacks they could get their hands on. Town was never the same.
Rosewood. in 1923. Highly self sufficient town….. again…. with the accusation white woman were being molested by black men… white people whipped themselves into a frenzy… rioted and killed any black person they could get their hands on, and burned the entire town to the GROUND. The town was abandoned by blacks after that.
Tulsa Race riots that destroyed Black Wall street in 1921. A black town so self sufficient that it would often take a full year for currency from within to leave the town. A Large group of white people tried to lynch a black man. The people rose up and protected him. In anger the whites rioted, and murdered, and burned the town. They even BOMBED it from the air. All because the man they were trying to lynch was again accused of assaulting a white woman. The whole town… burned to the ground. All that wealth… GONE. Town NEVER recovered.
Chicago race riots of 1919…. during the war many blacks left the south and migrated north. established neighborhoods, took jobs… and the whites did not like this. Particularly all the white service men who returned home from the war to find their factory jobs taken by blacks. Riots broke out, blacks and whites died… and in the riots the black neighborhoods were hit the hardest. 1,000 black homes (HOMES… not apts… homes OWNED by black people) were burned to the ground. And never recovered.
East St. Louis 1917… blacks flocked to this city. And White people became fearful of competition from blacks for jobs and economic prosperity. AGAIN… (notice the theme here)…. the tipping point for whites was the RUMOR that white women, and black mean began to socialize with each other… taking our jobs is one thing.. but keep your hands off our white women eh?? For MONTHS whites attacked blacks… rioted, torched homes… randomly shooting into black homes on a regular basis at night. Terrorizing people. National guard had to be called him several times. The final nail in the coffin was when whites did a drive by on homes one night, and the blacks had had enough, and organized… and in the same night another car came. And they shot at it, killing the people inside. But this wasnt the attackers. It was the police coming to try and calm things down. This sparked another riot that was the worst of them all. 6,000+ blacks became homeless after losing their homes to fires.
Knoxville Tenn… 1919… AGAIN on the accusation that a black man harmed a white woman. Whites rioted AGAIN. 5,000 whites stormed the jail looking for the suspect. They Freed the OTHER prisoners who were white….. many in jail for MURDER, but it did not matter to them. A black man hurt a white woman!!!! After the jail they attacked the black business district. Looting, burning… killing. So bad the blacks eventually fled.
The list goes on… throughout the 1900s… and repeated itself during the civil rights movement that was a MERE 50 years ago. Lynching after lynching. Bombing after bombing. The generation of people who went through that are STILL alive.
Pick up a damned history book if all these things are news to you.
And to add to this… the systematic racism that also occurred, that kept blacks from prosperous jobs, buying homes in prosperous neighborhoods.
Combine this with the POISON that is welfare. Before the 70s Many blacks owned and operated businesses, and education was important to them. Then all of a sudden welfare became super easy to get on, when previously it was hard to get.
Combine all the above as well with terribly funded schools in the inner cities and what do you get? An ENTIRE generation of poor, uneducated blacks. Who are the people this “teacher” is talking about??? The CHILDREN of these very people!!
I dont deny that blacks today are often their own worst enemy.
However it pisses me off to no end when other self righteous white people storm in after the fact, use selective amnesia, and PRETEND they blacks got there on their own. And that their Grandparents, and great grandparents had NO hand in ANY of it. Particularly at the Faux anger at “ZOMG HOW CAN THIS BE??? UGHH BLACK PEOPLE!”. It is the equivalent of taking a person, tying them up in your basement for 50 years, having a change of heart… and wanting to be more liberal, releasing said person… and then getting mad at them because they cant run a race as well as everyone else. You act like this is ANCIENT history… when 1-2 generations is nothing but a drop in the BUCKET of time.
Every time blacks rose up to be prosperous in THIS (1900’s) century… they were decimated by the people with POWER. White people. Who wanted to “keep those black people in their place). I get it…. youre sick of hearing about history. Youre sick of hearing about what your parents and grandparents. WELL BUCK UP AND DEAL WITH IT!!! Your parents/Grandparents MADE THIS BED.. now you have to lay in it. You got what you wanted…many blacks are exactly where many of you wanted them to be. So dont come onto a forum and start BITCHING about the thing you helped create.
You wanna know why the black kids this teacher talks about act, and talk the way they talk??? Look no further then Media. Do you think it is mere coincidence that so many black people want to be athletes, singers, dancers, and rappers??? For how many DECADES did you hardly see blacks on television is over positive roles? Comic books? Movies? Magazines? Fellow white people enjoy the white PRIVILEGE of being able to look at 99% of all media and seeing nothing but themselves. In all manner of roles. None more prominent then the HERO. Until RECENTLY blacks featured in media all seemed to talk and act a certain way. Like Thugs, bad boys, uneducated, criminals, drug dealers, pimps. These black chidren grew up with no role models to look up to that looked like THEM, while white pople did NOT have that problem. EVER! You may say “why shoudl the race of the hero matter”… but coming from you WHO DOES NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO NOT HAVE COUNTLESS OPTIONS OF ROLE MODELS YOUR RACE.. that objection is MOOT. You cant require the blacks to not care about race in media, when YOU DO NOT HAVE TO WORRY. White is the “standard”. Everyone else is the exception.
THIS is why so many black youth talk, and act the same… because that is often the ONLY IMAGE THEY ARE SUBJECTED TO. THAT is why so many blacks want to be athletes, rappers, and singers, and entertainers. THOSE are the black people that white people worship.
Black boys chase white girls because white is the STANDARD of beauty. Black are made to feel that THEIR natural looks and features are ugly and unwanted on a daily basis in media. Let me guess?? You Thought black women were born wanting to have lots of weaves and straightening their hair? Let me guess… you have no idea what a “brown paper bag test” is? Where blacks are made to hate their features so much that it caused infighting where lighter skinned blacks look down on dark ones? Where in american media LIGHT SKINNED blacks with more Caucasian features are celebrated as beautiful… and get many leading roles. While DARK skinned blacks, with natural hair get to be cast as ugly maids in “The Help”.
You have NO idea the self esteem issues these black kids face simply because of the color of their skin. Sure white people also have self esteem issues… but it is NOT because they are WHITE. Any other self esteem problem a white person faces… people of other colors face too. Self esteem for being ugly? everyone experiences that. Self esteem for being fat? Everyone faces that. But white people do NOT face self esteem issues for being WHITE, or having white FEATURES. The white race is the standard!!!!
And blacks in media do NOT get to see themselves in diverse roles like WHITE PEOPLE. They are type cast. It is a Privilege you are in NO danger of losing anytime soon. THAT is why George Lucas had to spend his OWN money to get a simply ACTION movie that has a black cast, made. NO studio would back him. WHY??? Because black people are type cast in media. To THEM it is unrealistic to have an action movie with a large black cast. And they-and I QUOTE- “Dont know how to market a movie like that around the world”. So Black people are stuck with sitcoms, and romantic comedies where everyone is sassy, talks street, struggles to survive, has low educations, and need to dance to scrape enough money to save their youth center. White people do NOT have the image problem.
THIS is why those kids act that way. They are LOUD, UNEDUCATED, and VIOLENT because THAT IS THE ONLY IMAGE THEY ARE SOLD. There are FAR more black people on TV that are LOUD, UNEDUCATED, and VIOLENT then the other. THAT is why when black kids come along who ARE educated, NOT violent, and NOT loud… they are acussed of being WHITE by the black people, and the white people are SHOCKED they dont act like those “other blacks” with code words like “Oh my… youre so articulate!!!”. Or even flat out tell them “They arent that black”. I have seen these things with my own EYES. And that is why the Girl in this teachers story said she was unable to do “that” (the assignment)… she was black…
The war on drugs in another example… all the anti drug crack down almost solely targeted at the inner cities, when white people in the suburbs sell, and use drugs JUST as much as the blacks. The idea that is is BLACK people getting everyone hooked on drugs is preposterous. There is not a single credible statistic out there that suggested more black and poor people use drugs far more then white people with money.
You dont get to go somewhere after the fact and moan about things you know nothing about. You dont get to condemn ONE group of people for being uneducated and violent when YOUR people were just as uneducated and EXTREMELY violent in the near past. Just because one group used violence to gain favor to the point they dont HAVE to use it as much as they used to, does not make them BETTER then the people being violent NOW who were unable to build the empires THEY did. Or did you suddenly forget about mob violence and open machine gun fight in the streets with white people????? Those men are all either DEAD, In jail, or RICH!!! Of course they woudlnt still be in the streets fighting. They are now Business owners, Police chiefs, and Mayors!
As far as the BS about Mitt Romney and Mormons in this thread…The fact of the matter is… until about 1978 Mormons preached that BLACKS were CURSED people. INFERIOR. To be their servants in heaven. That was a mere 35 damn years ago. Blacks were not allowed in their temples, and most certainly not allowed to be priests. The reason Mormons STILL outreached to blacks is because they felt that they were able to save the SOULS of these cursed people if the accepted the Mormon faith. And YES many self loathing blacks bought into this BS and STILL joined the Mormon church. JUST because some black people had low self esteem and joined an organization that preached they were inferior until 1978 does NOT mean it did not happen. in FACT.. the vast majority of blacks who say they are Mormon are “Inactive”… meaning they devote and worship on their own, and do not attend the big churches. When asked why, many state they are felt to feel unwelcome by many. And they even went as far as ask the Mormon church to be able to set up a black run church as well, and the Mormon leaders DENY this request. The Mormon church knew it could not hold such a stance in the every progressive world, and all of a sudden “God” came down and told their leaders it was wrong to discriminate Mormon church has spent the last 35 years trying to repair its image. More so since 1996.
The Mormon church is playing revisionist history, now LYING and denying they taught such things…all to build their image.They even go as far as teaching this to the young Mormons. That that was just some Mormon fanatics… That the Cain doctrine never existed. This is a LIE. THIS is why people call Mormons racist. Because lots of people are not stupid, and people DO NOT CHANGE OVER NIGHT just because somewhere some one flicked a switch of tolerance. Mormons do not like to talk about the churches OFFICIAL stance before 1978.. because it is an UGLY image to acknowledge.
I do not know if ROMNEY is a racist person. But what I do know, is that he is a LIAR, and a flip flopper willing to change his stance on a regular basis for votes. And embraces racist coded rhetoric to appeal to the racist members in the republican party. (Southern Strategy). What I DO know… is what his Church USED to teach up till 35 years ago. I am Old enough to KNOW what they taught.
It takes GENERATIONS for people to change.
And sure some Mormons are not racist… But the idea that ALL Mormons changed over night in just 35 years is ridiculous. And its extremely annoying when a white person says “When I was in Utah I didnt see any racism”… YOURE WHITE!!!!! Why would you experience subtle racism towards blacks when youre 99% around only white people?? Jesus….
Its like most of the people in this thread are the DUMBEST people I have ever encountered. A group in power does any and EVERYTHING possible to DESTROY another group for CENTURIES… tried their best to wipe out any advances they made in 1 century….. and you expect ALL that damn damage to be UNDONE in one generation???? I know many of you try to say Ancient history.. but its not… The people who lived through Civil rights are STILL alive. People being locked out of influential jobs, Union lock outs, war on drugs, systematic racism… these were/are things that exist in the past 50 YEARS they exist NOW… Just because you wake up one day and play revisionist history, and youre tired of hearing about them, doesnt make them any less real. These are real problems that occurred, and what you see NOW is the damn result!
You wanna know why Blacks werent able to assimilate into American Society like the Jews, The Italians, and Irish?? BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN. My Factual examples at the start of this post is proof!! Every SINGLE time they tried in the past Century alone, they were killed and DESTROYED at every single attempt. They were BLACK!!!! Jews were able to assimilate because they were white… Irish were able to assimilate because they were white…. Italians were able to assimilate because they were WHITE!!! And they ALL were capable of turning their hatred for each other onto Blacks. You cannot always look at every single white person, and instantly tell if they are Irish, Italian, Jew or American…. But you can spot a BLACK person 100 miles away. Congratulations in your ignorance!
SURE the Blacks can help perpetuate their own stereotypes….But what YOU are talking about, are the CHILDREN or the very people who were BROKEN!!! In what fantasy world has a group of people been so decimated SO recently, and flipped around and prospered in a mere 50 years after gaining full equal rights on paper??
In what Fantasy world does MILLIONS of people collectively wake up one day and are COMPLETELY different from what they were yesterday?? This is reference to the people who when talking about the true racist they reference the Dixiecrats… PRETENDING the Southern strategy wasnt real… pretending Nixon people are not on RECORD referencing it. PRETENDING the republican party didnt court the angry whites to their side. PRETENDING that the Democratic party you are so stupidly referencing is the SAME party as it is today. Saying Democrats want everyone on welfare… when the FACT of the matter is.. the people MOST on welfare are in Republican run states… the HIGHEST concentration of poverty in the entire country are in Republican held states. The states that contribute the LEAST are republican lead states. The States that get the MOST federal aid are Republican states!!!! They take IN more dollars then they produce!!!
It shows me how so many of you have ZERO concept of history, and just spout out NONSENSE without understanding ANY of it. You spout out statistics without understanding WHAT made those statistics possible.
You condemn the blacks for having hatred for what was DONE to them , their parents, and their grandparents. But yet you come in this thread and show nothing but hatred and ignorance. You claim racist is over and dead.. while being a gigantic racist spreading misinformation to put the argument in your (white) favor. You dont need a Sheet and a burning cross to be a racist.
The KKK still exists… and STILL have power.. the difference is… those former KKK members HAD to change tactics… they are no longer on your lawn burning crosses, or organizing neighborhood lynchings. They are Drs, Lawyers, Politicians, Judges, CEOs, Bosses, Supervisors, Execs, Police, Fire Fighters, Public servants, And Union Bosses. If you think they all just up and died and all had changes of heart you are an idiot. The KKK members that are Irrelevant are the ones STILL burning crosses, and passing out pamphlets in neighborhoods in the night. These are the most ignorant, and uneducated ones. If one lacks the intelligence to grasp the concept of being subtle, that is no one our fault.
You condemn Blacks for being just as out of control and violent an ignorant as white people have been JUST because you have the fortunate luck of being born in an era of white prosperity built on a system where the deck was stacked in your favor for CENTURIES! Or do you have so much hatred within you that you have to use revisionist history to FORGET ALL the Violence whites have done in the world, in AMERICA painting the streets RED with blood in gang warfare, and mob violence, and riots.
The difference is.. when Whites start doing violence the National Guard is called in, The FBI is brought in, laws are changed, there are huge crack downs. When blacks have violence, no one cares. After all theyre just killing each other right?? Look at Chicago…
I am not some super Liberal person… I am progressive… I think many liberal policies hurt the country. But I also think many conservatives ALSO hurt the country. I think Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson are idiots and panderers. They are incredibly irrelevant, but by the comments page I can tell how ignorant people are, because those two names seem to be all you can evoke.
I think many blacks today are content to live in ignorance… HOWEVER…. at the very LEAST.. I can understand HOW they got where they are. And it was NOT on their own. Not EVERYONE has the money and resources to make a come back from utter destruction. ie: Black Wall Street. The Govt never extended aid to FIX that. Large amount of black wealth and prosperity wiped out in one night. Towns in America have suffered far LESS and still were not able to recover either.
All these things I mentioned (All things WHITES do NOT have to deal with) contributed to a generation of poor and uneducated blacks. What you have now is the NEXT generation.. who are the CHILDREN of those people. What you have today are black kids with self image problems… ALSO something whites NEVER have to worry about for being white. THAT is the reason so many of them all talk, act, and behave the same. Blacks girls are loud and obnoxious because they are CONSTANTLY portrayed that way in media… they are CONSTANTLY portrayed as violent, loud, angry…. kids watch it, it becomes “cool” to them, and they imitate it. I dont believe in excess censorship….and plenty of white characters in media are terrible role models… HOWEVER blacks have a VAST shortage of positive roll models that look like THEM in media. WHITE people do not have this problems. Their Heroes that look like them ate Drs, Lawyers, Scientists, artists, engineers, … ANYTHING…. black people have Athletes, Rappers, and Musicians to look up to the most. They have a MUCH smaller representations in media. Then you are SHOCKED that they start behaving as such.
And as far as this “teacher” is concerned… it sounds like the rantings of an incredibly ignorant person. You have a very LIMITED experience with the poorest most ignorant black people in one place, and then you paint the entire race with that messed up brush?
I will state right now.. MY experience is not hers. I grew up in New England… and in nowhere in new England is it like THIS. Not even in the MOSt poor black neighborhood. The only place ive seen THESE things were on MOVIES. Usually accompanied by a super cliche Hollywood story about a strong white woman who was ready to teach these super ignorant black people how to be smart. Like “Dangerous Minds” and “Freedom Writers”. ie: Another Heroic white person.
This thread makes me ashamed of white people. You point out the ignorance of others while drowning in your own.
As far as Welfare goes… Welfare is a poison… HOWEVER the myth that the MAJORITY of them stay on it their entire lives is ridiculous. Only 15% of people on Welfare stay on it more then 5 years. And you know WHY people in the early 70 were on welfare less?? I mean besides the fact it was harder to get on?? It was the fact that the MIN wage was still in PACE with inflation and the cost of living. ANYONE working a full time job coudl go out, find a DECENT apt, in a DECENT neighborhood, pay their bills, and put food on their table. You could be a full time worker at MCDONALDS.. and STILL be able to afford a one bedroom apt EASILY even a 2 Bedroom apt. You could provide for yourself. NOW? you are UNABLE to do that on min wage. NO ONE can live on $15,000 for the entire year in America without assistance. The vast majority of people on Welfare WORK! Walmart and Mcdonalds encourages its workers to sign up for welfare.
If you wanna Demonize someone how about demonize organizations like Walmart and McDonald who keep their work force (The people who make the profit FOR them) in POVERTY, just so they can hoard more money at the EXPENSE of the American peoples tax dollars!!!! Fast food industry ALONE costs the American public $7.7 MILLION dollars a year just so we can subsidies their workers for them….. THAT is why more people are on welfare!!! Because unlike 30 years ago no one can provide for themselves for the BASICS on low end jobs.
The min wage kept pace with cost of living 30 years ago and before. But big business has spent billions of dollars to bribe and lobby politicians to keep the deck, and laws in THEIR FAVOR. Thus preventing the min wage from keeping pace with inflation like it always had.
You wanna be outraged about something?? Be outraged about THAT! Oh wait…. I forgot… its easier to attack the defenseless, and paint the poor as villains then it is to attack a big corporation blatantly taking advantage of the population when they can kick your butt financially.
The 216 people who agreed with this are so ignorant that they don’t realize that MUSLIM IS NOT A RACE! Lmaoooo!
What I see with the election of Obama is everything the teacher speaks about in this article is being seen and displayed in the people. It’s far more clear these days that ever before.
I so agree with and have been saying the same thing.
Obama has eroded all of the gains the Black community made out of the civil rights era. Especially Black athletes ( Robinson, Roberto Clemente, Jesse Owens, Hank Arron, Etc. )
Using race is one of the oldest methods of division. Using pigment for class warfare:
I wonder what MLK would have thought about OB?
That is retarded..lol. You do know there are 22 (known) white supremacist groups? There are 4 pro black groups. There are almost a million KKK members/supports. There are less than 20 thousand in all 4 Black groups combined. Every single red state has a high population of people like yourself who judge an entire race based on the actions of a few. I.e. they are racist. The fact that white people are too dishonest to just admit that they believe they are better than blacks simply because of the color of their skin is the reason racism will never die. When you all stop lying we can get past it.
If the KKK or any of these other groups ever had any real backing , organization, or leadership black people would be in real trouble.
What we have for the most part is inbred white uneducated trash running these groups be thankfull.
Andre – Speaking as a retarded, lying creepy-ass cracker, I’m gonna say that you’re full of crapulance.
I am not judging an entire race. I am judging those people that exhibit this sub-culture facet that is the worse example of a people. Sadly, they are becoming more and more prevalent – almost, as is proven daily, a MAJORITY. For YOU to deny that fact makes YOU seem retarded – certainly not I.
As for any claims of racism that you or others may make against me, I would merely say that you have no idea who my friends – AND FAMILY – consist of. I would deem that I have a more mixed-cultural background than the majority of Blacks today. And, if given half a chance, would vote for Col. Allen West – or any pro-American black -for President.
There are infinitely more meth smoking, pot smoking, skateboarding, punk rocking, goth dressing, pants sagging, slang talking, underachieving white kids in this country than black kids. What you seem not to understand is that every problem that this teacher and you complain about is ECONOMIC not racial or cultural. But since we live in the aftermath of 400 years of slavery and racist oppression and attitudes, those who are not bright enough, open minded enough, or objective enough to see the millions of blacks who achieve in spite of racism seem to believe whatever lies and propaganda perpetuated by the ignorant and hateful.
Simple Question: Do you believe you are better than most Black people?
Economics NEVER stopped a child from reading a textbook or studying and completing an assignment.
And let’s be real on the subject of slavery. Nubia is described as having been rich in slaves. Africans sold their own. The African slave trade existed centuries before the Colonies became involved, and last but most important, according to the 1860 U.S. Census Free Blacks in the Southern States owned slaves at a much higher rate (in proportion to their population) than did Whites in the South. Huh, never was taught that in history class was ya?
Economics makes a difference in which textbooks kids have, or if they have textbooks at all. Economics makes a difference in the nutrition and the ability for kids to concentrate. Economics makes a difference if a parent is working a second shift job and a child is left to do whatever when they get home from school. If economics is not a factor, why do the affluent BLACK communities not have the same problems that poor BLACK communities have?
There is nothing you can teach me about the slave trade. I know more than most. But, for the sake of this debate, the world slave trade nor who owned or traded slaves is in question. What is in question is the AFTERMATH OF SLAVERY AND JIM CROW IN AMERICA. Now, if it is your contention that economics and 500 years of oppression haven’t effected our culture then I challenge you to get mistreated by blacks for the rest of your life and see how it effects your children…and their children.
Parents DHOULD NOT HAVE CHILDREN THEY CANNOT AFFORD to nourish properly! It is NOT EVERYONE ELSE’s RESPONSIBILITY to pay for others children! Jim Crow was a product of the DEMOCRAPS! Wake up!
Jim crow was a product of RACIST CONSERVATIVES. Racist conservatives USED TO BE DEMOCRATS. Don’t be so dishonest. THESE DAYS ALL THE RACIST CONSERVATIVES ARE REPUBLCIAN. Now, that is not to say that all republicans are racist. It is just stating a FACT that IF a person is a white supremacist it is a 99% chance they are conservative and vote republican.
You cannot force someone to learn to read, or study history, or learn algebra,, that would be racist as evidenced by this article and enough encounters we all have had with IGNORANT people, doesn’t matter what books you give them or how much money you throw at them! People with NO SELF RESPECT OR SELF MOTIVATION WILL ALWAYS SIT on their duff crying how unfair life is! In SOME families, this ignorance is LEARNED GENERATIONALLY! And this is something seen in all skin colors!
Just another excuse making black person nothing to see here move along.
Crybaby.
Stating facts makes a person a crybaby. But being perpetuating stereotypes doesn’t make you a racist? smh. Get a grip.
Andre, you are responding to someone who calls himself “poopybutt2”–he isn’t even poopybutt1. I think his handle pretty much describes his viewpoint.
Black people, doing things every day to reinforce every stereotype and slur that I ever heard.
Why don’t you spend less time on the internet trying to
perpetuate the typical following defense’s and excuses.
I swear officer I Din Do Nuffins….
It’s whitey’s fault ……….
The man is trying to keep us down …….
Care to add any of your own?
When are you going to crawl out of your crib and face up to the simple facts before you.
The black community owns the problems with which it is faced and until they the people who own these problems abandon their culture of ignorance and violence they will continue their journey down the path that leads to destruction.
You own it SOLVE IT.
You have blacks in government at all levels now………..no more excuses fix your own problems we as the rest of america are tired of propping you up with our time and resources and money.
When the government finally cuts all these millions of people off the welfare breast
the collective screams will be unbearable but be assured that time is coming no matter what the Fed/Gov can no longer continue to print money and hand it out to deadbeats.
The end is approaching faster than you think.
You prove the stereotypes of racist white people. You actually don’t believe racism exists in America. It’s not really your fault. Brainwashed people actually believe the things they believe without any facts., just emotion.
STOP YOUR “VICTIM” mentality!!!
Sorry Andre, you’re a crybaby. My kids went to black schools in a black town. My daughter did great. My son, I had to send to several other schools (slightly white majority) in order for him to graduate.
Skin color doesn’t matter. Even “black culture” doesn’t matter. What matters is what it taught, and a child’s ability to assimilate those lessons.
My son had to spend all his energy defending himself, being one of only two non-blacks in the school system. I paid for all his classmates extra-curricular activities; their parents wouldn’t. Being unemployed and living on savings, I was supposedly rich – it was my place to pay for ALL the black kids’ field trips.
Those parents who yelled at me at PTO meetings all drove beautiful cars with amazingly fancy wheels. I loved my car – a ten year old stock toyota – but the other parents’ cars were top – of – the – line. They were willing to make a monthly payment in order to impress their neighbors. They were not wiling to pay for their children to go on field trips. They wouldn’t even pay for their kids to have breakfast and lunch. That was left to me, because I was stupid enough to offer it.
This is a black town, with a black government, and a black school board. It has since been taken over by the state. Innocent children sometimes have to be protected from their parents, when their parents are totally ignorant fuck-ups.
Neshoba, you are so busy attacking me that you didn’t even read my posts! lol I SAID THIS IS ALL ABOUT ECONOMICS NOT SKIN COLOR at least 3 separate times. Lol. Now you are agreeing with me…but think you are challenging me…lol. Get a grip.
“I SAID THIS IS ALL ABOUT ECONOMICS NOT SKIN COLOR”
It’s not about either. It’s about culture. One culture TENDS to value education, planning, saving, working hard. Another culture TENDS to treat all that with contempt.
It’s NOT ABOUT ECONOMICS””” if that were the case, the INNER CITY SCHOOLS would be the best! Democratically controlled cities have the HIGHEST TAXES BUT THE WORST OUTCOMES! IF YOU WANT TO BLAME ANYONE, BLAME YOURSELVES FOR KEEPING DEMS IN POWER WHERE THE SCHOOLS ARE THE WORST!
Micro-micro-micro economics. Individual households. I was not so much challenging you as venting about our treatment at the hands of small-town blacks. Is it applicable to the world at large? It is anecdotal rather than data. However, personal experience always has a greater influence on our psyche than data. YMMV.
Our belief systems and thought processes should not only be influenced by our experiences. That is the problem in the world. We are so self absorbed that we believe our experiences are empirical evidence.
The FACT is EVERYTHING is Macro and Micro economics…skin color is used as a dividing method among by the controlling class. It has worked on all races. You have to be able to look beyond your personal experiences to get an ACCURATE picture of what is REALLY going on.
Think about the treatment you received in a small town. Now, think about an entire nation treating you and yours MUCH WORSE than that for 250 years and then tell me everything should just be forgiven, forgotten, and moved on from without any long term or generational psychological effects. Although I feel bad for your individual experiences, I am positive they are not the entire picture.
250 years. Okay. We live on the reservation these days. How’s 600 years sound? In fairness, I must concede that much of what you say is true. Still, my grandkids and yours really shouldn’t be saddled with our old baggage. Time to break free from all that and see each other as fellow citizens.
God bless you and yours.
I agree we should see each other as fellow HUMANS first and Citizens second. Character should be the only deciding factor in our lives as it pertains to treatment by other races. I really would like to share in your optimism about our grandchildren being able to live in such an America, but I am slightly more skeptical. Maybe our great grand children will be alive to see such a transformation.
Peace.
Those type of people have no right to have children! We take care of own, they should too! Instead of driving new cars and having the latest new cell phone and big screen TV’s they SHOULD BE FEEDING AND CLOTHING THEIR OWN CHILDREN!
Reproduction is a human right. Food, water, and housing are not. I don’t have any answers. Just stay away from certain types of people and under no circumstances, live near them. Protect your family because the government will not.
Andre, YOU are the ONLY RACIST I HAVE SEEN so far on THIS THREAD!
So, the guy who said black people should move back to Africa, the lady that said all black children are crap, the guy that said all black people are second class citizens. and the lady that said “Race Mixing will never work” are not racist??? smh
Simple Question: Do you work in a correctional institution?
Yeah, there are only 4 pro black groups because the type of blacks described here don’t lend themselves to organization. They just mob together and regurgitate the slang du jour.
Say what? That is the most eff’d up thing I have heard….ever! See, it seems to be true that most black people are racist against whites even if they have to make shit up to do so! (That didn’t sound so fair, did it?)…but……Now we are dishonest because we can’t admit that we believe we are better than blacks because of our color. I have heard it all. Crap like this just furthers the race problem! Each comment that you made and I made are separating people…dividing us.
We need to find similarities in each other and explore our differences and learn from each other, but as long as one group is blurting out crap like this, we aren’t going anywhere just yet.
Bo, apparently you don’t know what racism is. Racism is the belief that your race is better than another. Unfortunately because of 400 years of slavery and another 100 years of white people IN POWER promoting the belief that whites are better than blacks (and every other race for that matter) the vast majority of black ppl in America DO NOT BELIEVE they are better than white ppl. In fact, many black ppl believe white ppl are better. This self hate leads to a lot of the poor behavior you all speak of. This is not an excuse ,just a statement of fact. But, if you are referring to the PREJUDICE that blacks have against whites, that is different. Everyone has prejudices. Some about race, some about religion, some about weight, some about economic status. But, if you think it is ok for this teacher to say these things and black people not develop resentment towards white ppl who agree with her, then you are either extremely naïve or extremely racist. Which is it?
So Jamie Foxx is an anomaly? ^^
No, Jamie Foxx and the millions of us who have made something of ourselves IS THE NORM. But this essay, and your attitudes towards black people are trying to perpetuate the notion that MOST OF US are the scum of this society. In order to do that, you have to IGNORE the fact that MOST of us are good, productive citizens. Like I said before, you all judge an entire race by the actions of a few.
I agree he is the norm, a professional victim and a black supremacist.Its definitely the norm, because you didn’t even realize why i referred to Jamie Foxx The essay reflects my experiences, most black youth I grew up with are as spiteful against whites as you are and don’t even see it, and the vast majority turned out to be, lets say, not so productive members of society.
The only reason you are in this discussion is that you want desperate teachers, and especially white people with tons of bad experiences, to keep their mouth shut.
Jamie Foxx is a professional victim and black supremacist? You are out of your mind. Insane people really don’t know they are insane until it is pointed out. So, let me point out why you are insane. Around 10% of African-Americans live in poverty. That equates to around 4.4 million African Americans. Around 6% of Caucasians live in poverty. That is around 9 million white people. So even though we were held in slavery for 400 years and treated like second class citizens for another 100 you all still have more people in poverty in terms of sheer numbers. The FACT IS…we are victims of a system designed to treat us like sub-human creatures and to this day some of you still believe we are. You prove that by your statements. The lady who wrote this essay proves that by the essay.
The experiences like this tell are biased, and ignorant. She was racist before she started teaching black kids. So, all her experiences were going to be used to justify her feelings of racism. If you put a black person who is racist in an all white school he/she will use their experiences to justify their racism towards whites. This is NOT TRUTH..it is bias. You dislike black people because you believe BS. But, we have done NOTHING TO YOU. White people just want us to be completely assimilated. Well, let me tell you how hypocritical that is. Asians have China towns in major cities, you don’t complain. Hispanics have areas that they own in many cities. You all don’t complain about that. Jews, Irish, Germans, Native American, Buddhists, Indians (from India), and a host of other cultures get to celebrate their culture and individuality without white people complaining, but for Black people it is a problem. That is just racism my friend. Nothing else. We are no crying victim any more than a woman who gets rape is crying victim when she gets raped. It is simply a truth you all are too cowardice to own up to . Just like the rapist who says he didn’t rape the woman.
you are correct when you say blacks are victims…. “victims of a system designed to treat us like sub-human creature” but the elephant in the room is this…… a lot of black choose to be victims. They are given more opportunities than any other race.They refuse to get an education so can make a better life for themselves. Also, blacks vote democrat…. how dumb is that ???? the main creators of this system. They keep voting for democrats who want to keep them in poverty,simply because democrats bribe them with more free entitlements, it’s easier to control an uneducated people, doesn’t matter the race either… that’s the goal of democrats, to control blacks and any other race. blacks vote to keep these control freaks (democrats/socialist) in power. It does seem to come across that blacks are lazy. How looking at personal responsibility, one should be responsible for one’s own self. It’s time for blacks to step up to the plate and be responsible for oneself. Stop blaming someone else for their trouble. take the education given to you and make a better life for yourself. Stop depending of the American taxpayer.
Trip, you are mistaken. Blacks are not given more opportunities than any other race. That is just hilarious. The opportunities that exist in this country are still heavily skewed to white privilege. Affirmative Action tries to level the playing field but it fails miserably because racism and prejudice still runs rampant in the hearts and minds of employers, administrators, corporate greed, and about 50% of poor and middle class republicans. The vast majority of black people vote democrat because of the large number of racists in the republican party. The bit about a system that keeps black people in poverty is rhetoric used to keep people emotional about a non-issue. Poor and middle class republicans are the people who vote against their own best interest because poor people are demonized by the rich and you all are too indoctrinated to realize that a vote against poor people is a vote against the middle class also. The rich and ultra rich manipulators know that if they can get you all to focus on people who have no control or effect on monetary policy, markets, or legislation that you will not be able to see the corruption, bribery, exploitation, or down right evil that those who are so greedy that destruction of the middle class is just collateral damage. It is smoke and mirrors and you all can’t and don’t want to see what is really going on.
We are just going to have to agree to disagree. As to the indoctrination comment… I am assume you are a product of our country public schools.. making you one who is indoctrinated, our schools are the social engineering / indoctrination centers of of the democrats /liberals/socialist of the last 40-50 years. I was a part of that indoctrination but I had parents who instilled morals and values in our family so the indoctrination didn’t stick…. I am truly sorry that there are blacks and whites today that don’t have that parental backing… that is one of the reasons of society is failing… the breakdown of the family… because of the breakdown of morals and values, the lack of commitment, and the “you owe me” mentality and simple laziness are some other reasons. I don’t vote against poor people, have poor in my own family… so don’t tell me I against poor people when I vote republican. Mostly I vote Republican because it is the lesser of two evils… I vote for those who support personal responsibility, personal/individual accountability not for those who support sponging off the taxpayers of this country.– by voting democrat you vote for governmental control over your life.Don’t most people want to make their own choices and lives, I guess not, because they choose the easy way out… sponge off the taxpayers. the Democrats have been taken over by the socialist/marxist… democrats want to control everyone and aspect of one’s life, it’s easier to control a uneducated people…. part of the indoctrination is that the governments job is to take of people… The Declaration of Independence states….. the right of the pursuit of happiness — not provide the happiness, The Constitution states… promote the general welfare… not provide for the general welfare. But blacks and whites alike have been taught that it is the governments job to provide everything for their life.
As long as blacks continue to buy into the democrats/socialist agenda…. they will continue to be poor and uneducated…… by their choice.. or they can choose to take advantage of the many many opportunities our government gives the minorities of this country.
the moochers of the entitlement crowd… play a big part of destroying the middle class, it’s not just the rich… we are in this crisis together. Also you need to remember… it’s the rich who are the job creators, poor people don’t create jobs. You make it sound like all rich people are evil…. they aren’t. Most are good decent people, you need to stop demonizing them — because without them… you might not have a job. If you want to demonize someone… try the Democrat party. They are destroying the greatness of this nation with each socialist policy they ram down the throats of it’s citizenry. They are making our nation a weak one, we have a lot weaker economy to the point of total destruction, they push for policies where we can’t even protect our own borders. You talk about corruption… well look at the current administration….most corruption administration is our hisotry….no other has had so many scandals… so many it’s hard to keep up with all of them… and they are getting a free pass… criminals charges should be implemented.
“The vast majority of black people vote democrat because of the large number of racists in the republican party.”
And they know about this “large number” because Democrats and black “leaders” keep telling them about it. Not that it exists, but it MUST exist, because otherwise they might start asking uncomfortable questions about why inner-city schools perform so poorly…
Did you know that a “black” running as a Republican will receive a higher proportion of “white” Republican votes than a “black” running as a Democrat will of “white” Democrat votes? That Republicans from non “majority minority” districts have sent “blacks” to Congress, but the only way a minority Democrat can get elected is to have a district packed with people who, apparently, vote on skin color?
Which is the “racist” party?
Don’t you see each comment you provide only further illustrates your inability to identify any form of black supremacism?
If any white male had made some of the remarks Jamie Foxx made, it would be career suicide. Yet you don’t even comprehend what I can possibly refer too. Apparently, identifying ‘racist’ and ‘supremacist’remarks , makes me “insane” in your little world. You also mocked me for claiming the Nation of Islam is a racist organization. An organization which informs its members I have been created by a mad professor named Yakub 5000 years ago, and I’m not worthy of the name “human” because of my skin color. An organization
where the speeches of Khalid Muhammed where met with genuine applause, no shocked face in sight, and cheers from the crowd. This according to you, are only trivial matters. I’m starting to understand who I am dealing with here.
I am sure you have not noticed the recent developments to further introduce discriminatory policies in the education system(unless with joy), which again forces white students
to jump greater obstacles then black students, without a peep from the teachers unions, whom as you know are sympathetic to your worldviews and are as debilitating to the education system as people like you are too the irrationally frustrated and self-victimizing black communities, and naturally, its victims.
Now you came up with another ludicrous theory, you believe I am “so racist”, a meaningless claim coming from you I believe is clear by now, that I am intentionally scouring the world for any incident where blacks are involved, so I can, with
no good reason you say, batter and berate them. You say I take no issues with other minorities, hence, I am “racist”.
In reality it is different; here are some statistics you can look up, which inspire this “white racist” to claim there are issues which are not properly discussed:
-Department of Justice hatecrime statistics 2006; young white males are the primary victim of violent hate crimes.
-A recent Department of Justice report on the Civil rights division; whites are discriminated against ,e.g. emails proved whites are not taking seriously when filing reports.
-Interracial crime statistics(FBI); especially the statistics on rape are shocking,for anyone who has any empathy for the most likely victims.
Besides statistics, it’s obvious black politicians continually berate and blame whites for all grievances of their community. I believe this is one of the reasons whyit was so common when I grew up, for blacks to insult (racial slurs), demean and assault whites, and hate crimes are dominated by blacks to this day,and no one is willing to address it. It’s clear to me these issues and these incidents may only barely make it to your hypocritical understanding of racism, and I’m enough of a “veteran” to understand any form of empathy for these issues is never to be expected.
Now about “Other minorities”. Obviously I don’t support your party’s attempts to enforce bilingualism in schools, government or elsewhere, and obviously I am not fond of self-segregation and the refusal to assimilate and become an American citizen. The thing is, I never had one female or male friend of mine who was randomly assaulted by an Asian,which is the reason I do find it important to focus on issues involving black Americans.
We are clearly not going to agree, but do you really think that pushing, or in any way legitimizing a victim mentality amongst young blacks, whom, as you must know,constantly use charges of “racism” to absolve themselves of any wrongdoing(crime,education), is not destructive?
Keep in mind the empirical fact that blacks did better on all issues prior to the sixties(see Thomas Sowell), when the actual issues faced by blacks where legitimate and identifiable, or in your terms, much worse than now.
Prove to me your statement that the teacher who wrote this article was racist BEFORE she started teaching! YOU SAID IT, NOW SHOW ME HOW, WHY AND WHEN,
“But the real black is not on television, and you pull your purse closer when you see him, and you lock the car doors when he swaggers by with his pants hanging down almost to his knees.
For those of you with children, better a smaller house in a white district than a fancy one near a black school.”
This statement PROVES IT…because he doesn’t have any empirical evidence to make such a determination. In FACT, there is evidence that there are many black schools that outperform white schools. There is verifiable fact that says affluent black schools do better than poor white schools. So, if this statement that it would be better to have a white kid at a poor white school than an affluent black school IS NOT based on his experience in a bunch of affluent black schools it is based on a PRECONCIEVED bias that he feels was reinforced by his negative experience at ONE SCHOOL. Then he made a sweeping generalization about an entire RACE of people who he thinks all white people are better than. That is the very definition of racism my friend!
Ah huh but Andre , YOU ARE JUDGING AN ENTIRE WHITE RACE BY THE ACTIONS OF ONLY A FEW! Hurts huh when your own words come back and bite you in the rear!!!
I didn’t judge the entire white race. Do you lie when it suits you? I am judging the 30% of white people who are still racists in the year 2013. It is really sad.
I think the teacher made your point very well- that “many black ppl believe white ppl are better.” I believe it was very bra ve of him to share his observations of a culture gone horribly wrong. This nihilistic culture was created by the policies of so-called Progressives who’s very intent is to keep ALL people on the plantation. So-called Progressives (Oppressives) believe themselves to be superior to everyone in intellect and morality and therefore it is their duty to keep the vast majority of us controllable and out of their way by giving us just enough to keep us dependent and malleable. They’d probably be happy to see a race war where we kill a bunch of each other off.
“Racism is the belief that your race is better than another.”
Which very, very, very few people actually believe.
I find it amusing that YOUR prejudices are OK, while those of “whites” are the result of “racism”,
Oh just STOP IT Andre! Just stop it!
I just found this. I don’t know how long ago it was when I replied up above, but I want to take the time now to reply to what you have said. It brought new light to my ways of thinking that I never saw until you explained it better.
You are very right…we all hold prejudices, but my point that I think I was trying to make is that these prejudices are a learned behavior and a learned way of thinking from our own environments and including from what we have experienced in our own lives. It also includes what we read, hear and see on the news as well.
When I grew up, I swore with all that I was, that I would never be prejudice against another person because of the color of their skin or their heritage because I lived with a prejudiced father all throughout those years. Of course I also grew up in an all white small town and the only time I ever interacted with other black children or people, my parents would quickly grab me away. I swore to myself then, that I would in whatever small way I could contribute, never be that way myself. I still feel that very same way, but I can assure you I have experienced reverse prejudices. I thought then, that it was because racism has become a complicated ugly mess, which really it is and in many ways it has grown out of bounds.
So, you are also right about when other black people read about what the teacher has written in her article that this too can add to the problem of helping them to feel more inferior. I never thought of it that way until you mentioned it. I too have faced prejudices all of my life based on my weight and my gender. I do understand it a little bit, although I am most positive that I have not experienced it on a scale that a lot of the black race has especially living in the inner cities where opportunities are not in their favor.
I still, however, believe in a day where the main prejudices against the color of our skin will erode away. It may take several more generations, but I think or I hope that it will end for people who are feeling it now.
I’ll take #2 which is extremely naive. Shoot me. But thank you for your enlightenment on the subject. Now that you explained it better, I see what you mean. At first, it didn’t make any sense to me.
Boberry, thank you for your reply AND that sincerest and most amazing show of self-reflection I have ever seen in such a one post. I have been successful a few times in helping people see or persuading them but never in one post…lol.
I share your hope that one day the all prejudices are replaced by love and equality. There is a stark contrast of tolerance in other countries. The legacy of Jim Crow and the racial divide in the country truly saddens me, because it is simply a construct of the rich and powerful to divide and conquer. It is still working. It will take enlightened people to spread the message of equality and tolerance for it to end. I am glad you are on our side!
Wait a minute, “White supremacist” versus “pro Black”? Couldn’t it be “pro White” & “Black supremacist”? The New Black Panther Party & Nation of Islam are just that or should we say Hate groups. Also, I strongly believe your memberships stats are way off. The Nation of Islam is estimated at 20-50 thousand. The KKK is dead.
The Nation of Islam is NOT a hate group…lol. It is a religion. There are hateful things said about the oppression of blacks In this country, but that does not make the religion a hate group any more than the bible condoning slavery makes Christianity a hate group. The KKK is dead???? Stop the madness! smh. What about the other 21 known white hate groups? The New Black Panther party is a hate group. I don’t condone what they stand for, but you seem to have no problem with the white supremacist groups. Why is that?
Islam is a religion & political ideology. The NATION of Islam is not a religion, it is a HATE group. I mentioned the KKK because that is the one you mentioned. White HATE groups have very low membership and do not represent the White community. I am not a member of any.
A person’s opinion does not determine what religions are religions. The NOI is a religion. I am not sure why you don’t want to acknowledge that. Maybe because you want there to be as many black hate groups as white ones. Sorry Charlie, it is just not the case. 400 years of slavery and another 100 years of treating blacks as less than human and then as second class citizens has not all of a sudden disappeared my friend. Until you all are honest about this race relations will always be strained in this country.
did you know the first slave owner in the US was a black man?
I did so what does that has to do with anything here?
quit trying to blame your failure on the WHITE MAN, black folks were pelted in the face with rocks, so they could get an education, if you don’t get one, its your fault, not the WHITE MAN, why don’t you look at where the problem really is, THE PARENTS, when all these fatherless black children are raised to hate the WHITE MAN, why don’t you keep your legs closed, instead of breading like rabbits, so you can have 18 babies to be raised on welfare, no father, it don’t take a rocket scientist to see where the problems start, the population in the USSA of blacks is 12 percent, Obama didn’t get elected by the 95 percent of blacks that voted for him, the WHITE MAN had to vote for him as well, if the WHITE MAN is so outrageously racist, the how in the F… did he a black man get to be president? Why don’t you black folks go over to Saudi Arabia preaching that Islamic Bullshit, you think you know what its about, you think blacks had a problem here, you would be killed over there just for being black, I have plenty of friends that are black, I don’t choose friends based on skin color, I pick friends with some fricken sense in there head, all men are capable of being respected, you can only get it, by respecting others, and yourself
You are right Randy! Until anyone has self respect and self motivation, they will never be respected by others! Malik Shabazz, the head of TNBP has NO SELF RESPECT, HE’S A HATE MONGER! It’s too bad that so many of his followers are so ill educated that they blindly follow his hate!
Please name these supposed “hate groups.” For extra credit, give their membership numbers and, most importantly, the source for your scurrilous claims.
There’s one source for such claims, and he gets paid by the people he can convince. Morris Dees had been doing this for thirty years and it’s made him rich. He branched out into ACORN and made even more money.
“Until you all are honest about this race relations will always be strained in this country.”
Until YOU stop acting as if all that history was still happening today, you mean?
Racism IS STILL HAPPENING!
Yeah, racism AGAINST WHITES!
The NOI only claim whites are blue eyed devils who need to be destroyed. Michelle Obama is friends with the Fharakkan family and you never hear a peep from the black community about it. Tells me all I need to know.
Martel, there are white members of the NOI…smh. You don’t know much apparently.
the noi is satanic, by muhammads own statement, he admitted it
Muhammad was dead for 1200 years before the NOI was invented…lol.
sorry, it was a mis-quote, he actually said a black man was the devil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=UNy6ml7bnYI
Please, prove us with a citation to back that one up. Chapter and verse, along with the edition/translation you are using would be ideal… but just a quote will do.
Oh, and while you’re off to the library, maybe refresh yourself on Exodus 23:1-2
Ah, so calling all whites blue eyed devils, and making it an integral part of an ideology is not racist.
Got it, i apparently don’t know much as I consider this a racist belief. Naturally you can find whites insane enough to be used as fronts, its the reason we allow affirmative action, its the reason we ignore the most likely victim of violent racism is a young white male, not some black guy crying racism if he is caught driving drunk, and its the reason we are having this discussion, with you completely ignorant of what racial hatred actually looks like(because of zero actual experience)
“All whites are devils
Not racist according to this genius.
Please show me where Farrakhan says ALL WHITE PEOPLE are devils. He never says this. Why make crap up? Just so you can justify your racism? That is ignorance at its worst. I never said that the NOI didn’t have “some” racist views. I said they are not A HATE GROUP. What I said is true. You want to paint them as a hate group to try to justify the 22 known white supremacist groups in the U.S. That’s fine. But liars and hypocrites always skew to argument with nonsense because they would rather make decisions on emotion rather than truth. Let me ask you this. How many crosses have the NOI burned on lawns? How many white people have the NOI hung, killed, or tortured? How many white people have the NOI prevented from being a part of their organization? Last but not least …How many black people did white people enslave and kill in AMERICA during the slave trade and the Jim Crow south?
Why don’t blacks get any blame for how many blacks died since it was blacks who sold slaves to white traders. Look up the Arab African slave trade, it was started centuries before white trades sailed to Africa and found out they had nothing to trade beside blacks. Do you REALLY think millions of blacks were captured by whites ambushed them on the beach? Does that really make sense to a fantasist like you?
Why didn’t the South use Native Americans as slave? They would have rather died. But in Africa it was part of the culture, just like baby raping to cure AIDS is now.
Isn’t it about time you named those twenty-two white supremacist groups? Do any of them have more than fifty members? Not to put to fine a point on it, but do any of them exist outside of Morris Dees’ imagination? Is it possible that all “twenty-two” of them live in one compound in Oregon?
The NOI have killed and tortured a number of people in recent years. The Oakland Bakery case comes to mind. They tortured the women who objected to being either/or sex slaves or cash cows. When a black journalist started investigating, they cut short his efforts with a shotgun blast to the face.
White racists never get very far in their attempts to oppress others, because most white folks immediately recognize them for the assholes that they are. It doesn’t take much cogitation to realize that if these shitheels will mistreat folks because of the shade of their skin, then they’ll do the same because of your country of origin, or the spelling of your last name.
I know that both NOI and Reverend Wright hate me. What about those twenty-two horrible racist groups? I’m calling you out – they do not exist!
American Renaissance, is a monthly racialist magazine published by the New Century Foundation.[27]
American Freedom Party, formerly known as the American Third Position Party, is an American political party which promotes white supremacy.[28][29][30][31] It was founded in 2010, and defines its principal mission as representing the political interests of white Americans.[32]
American Nazi Party, is an antisemitic, neo-Nazi organization based largely upon the ideals and policies of Adolf Hitler’s NSDAP in Germany during the Third Reich but claims that it is in conformance with the Constitutional principles of the U.S.’s Founding Fathers. It also supports Holocaust denial.
Aryan Nations, is a white supremacist neo-Nazi organization founded in the 1970s by Richard Girnt Butler as an arm of the Christian Identity group known as the Church of Jesus Christ-Christian.
Council of Conservative Citizens, is an American political organization that supports a large variety of conservative and paleoconservative causes in addition to white separatism.[33]
Creativity Movement, (formerly known as the World Church of the Creator) is a white supremacist politico organization that advocates the racialist religion, Creativity. Mainly religious rather than political, the radical Creativity Movement, founded by Ben Klassen in 1973, worships the white race itself rather than any deity, and advocates a radical form of white supremacism known as RAHOWA.
EURO, is a white separatist organization in the United States. Led by former Louisiana state representative and presidential primary candidate David Duke, it was founded in 2000.[34]
TO BE CONTINUED
As an aside, this is the first time I’ve noticed this website. I don’t know if it’s racist, or KKK, or what the hell it is. Whatever it is, I think it’s way cool, and brave as well, that Andre Bonds is taking on all commenters.
Just because I don’t agree with him doesn’t mean he doesn’t kick ass. He stands up for what he believes in, and you can’t ask for for more than that. In other words, he’s 100% American, and makes me proud.
National Alliance, is a white supremacist political organization. It was founded by William Luther Pierce, and is based in the Pierce family’s compound in Hillsboro, West Virginia.
National Association for the Advancement of White People, is a white supremacist organization in the United States incorporated on December 14, 1953 in Delaware by Bryant Bowles which presents itself as a civil rights organization such as the NAACP.
National Policy Institute, is a think tank based in Augusta, Georgia in the United States. It describes itself as the right’s answer to the Southern Poverty Law Center.
National Socialist Movement (United States), a party founded in 1974. Since 2005 the party has become very active, staging many marches and demonstrations.
National Vanguard, was an American National Socialist organization based in Charlottesville, Virginia, founded by Kevin Alfred Strom and former members of the National Alliance.
Nationalist Movement, is a Mississippi-based, white supremacist organization that advocates what it calls a “pro-majority” position. It has been called white supremacist by the Associated Press and Anti-Defamation League, among others.[36][37]
Occidental Quarterly, is a printed far-right quarterly journal with a web segment, TOQ Online, including interviews, essays and reviews on the website.[38]
The Order, or Brüder Schweigen (“Silent Brotherhood”) was a white supremacist Revolutionary organization founded by Robert Jay Matthews, active 1983-1984, probably best known for the 1984 murder of talk show host Alan Berg. Berg’s killing was to be the first in a planned series of assassinations, followed by attacks on the United States government, all meant to bring about a race war which would result in fulfillment of White Separatist ideals (see Northwest Territorial Imperative.
Pacifica Forum, is a controversial discussion group in Eugene, Oregon, United States. It has been listed as a white nationalist[39] hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).
Phineas Priesthood, is a Christian Identity movement that opposes interracial intercourse, the mixing of races, homosexuality, and abortion. It is also marked by its anti-Semitism, anti-multiculturalism, and opposition to taxation.
Volksfront, describes itself as an international fraternal organization for persons of European descent.[40] It has been called “neo-Nazi” and a “racist-skinhead group” in press reports.[41][42][43] The Anti-Defamation League has called the group “one of the most active skinhead groups in the United States.”[44] The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has added Volksfront to its list of hate groups.[45]
White Aryan Resistance, is a neo-Nazi white supremacist organization founded and led by former Ku Klux Klan leader Tom Metzger.
So … you’ve got a lot of opposition? Don’t give up, continually putting your viewpoint out there is the only way to sway the many non-blacks who have had bad experiences with blacks. Logic may be your best weapon. I still have a long way to go.
And the was a black member of the KKK, so I guess they’re no longer a hate group. Please never reference the one million members of the KKK that I doubt exists. SMH LOL OMG IMO BRB
“Martel, there are white members of the NOI”
There were Jewish members of the Nazi party, too. What’s your point?
The Nation of Islam is the epitome of racism. Unlike actual Islam, they teach that white people are the spawn of the Satan. You can pretend that Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan, and Reverend Wright (a convert to Christianity) don’t exist, but their words are available to all who are interested.
They hate whites and view them as lesser beings with no God-given rights.
I never said they don’t hate whites. I said they have white members and they are not a HATE GROUP. A hate group is a group who come together FOR THE PURPOSE of exalting their races as Supreme. That is NOT the goal of NOI.
Pull the other leg, it has bells on it.
“The Nation of Islam is NOT a hate group…lol. It is a religion.”
A religion of hate. Ask them what their “theology” says about Jews, or whites in general.
ISLAM is NOT A RELIGION!!! It’s A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY, ESPECIALLY WOMEN AND CHILDREN!
All blacks are pro-black, so to Andre it’s not ‘racis’, blacks can’t be ‘racis’ cause they ‘is black’. Did Samuel Jackson say he voted for Obama because he was white? Did any white person as high profile as Jackson say that about any white candidate? I know in Andre’s Candyland worldview any white voter who voted against Obama did it because ‘they is racis’.
S, once again, one rule for whites and one for blacks.
The KKK is a Zionist backed group, so is this current super hostility amongst the races. This has all been carefully engineered to create chaos, riots, war between the races, with the ultimate goal being the disarming of the citizenry and martial law. I am in no hurry to set up housekeeping in a FEMA camp, so I would really appreciate it if people just took a deep breath and logically pin point just who the enemy is here. The enemy is not the man or woman next to you, it remains in the shadows while it manipulates the populous into a frenzy. This letter demonstrates the effect this elitist cabal has had on one race in particular..it has fostered poor impulse control, and rabid hatred amongst blacks while depriving them of a mind set that tells them they can succeed on their own power. At the same time, the shadow throws in a Trayvon Martin scenario to inject even more hate, now cultivating the ravenous racial reaction in whites. This is all premeditated and Obama has added his louzy 2 cents to the equation to stir the animus even higher. Wake up America, don’t make it easy for these haters of liberty and justice. Strike back at the real enemy, not by riots and hatred, but by informed knowledge…they hate an informed, rational, thinking America. They want robots that follow their corrupt agenda; do not let them succeed. God bless.
now that is a rational thought right there
The Ku Klux Klan is a Zionist organization!? Man, my rabbi is going to feel a lot better about that cross-burning… it was just a friendly “welcome to the neighborhood” gesture!
Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism, you mentioned a Rabbi, you should know this already. This is a Khazar backed power structure, those that lurk in the shadows and have throughout the ages. Zionism is a socio-political group of certain Khazar bloodlines/bankers who view one of their deities as the state of Israel, not the Creator, the main deity is Ra, also known as the morning star/Lucifer, while ascribing to the Babylonian Talmud. They have acquired wealth and power by cutting side deals, pitting one group against another to create their filthy mantra, ‘order out of chaos’. It’s all about creating the NWO, you know that and so do many others. I’m not hiding this info, this is the truth and in these times all that has been hidden is now open and obvious. Deny it if you want, but the truth still stands as the truth, and this group of traitorous filth does not own all of us.
Yes, yes, and the Vatican has the names of all evangelicals recorded on a supercomputer beneath St. Peter’s Basilica that they will use to round them all up into FEMA death camps when the lizard-people from the hollow Earth signal them by putting Venus into retrograde during a double rainbow.
Make fun if you like, it matters little to me..so much disinformation and you seem to be a professional at it. In terms of the Vatican why not research the 1963 enthronement ceremony with a con-current ceremony in S, Carolina. These are real events; continue to crazy it up with your ‘lizard people’ agenda, it falls on deaf ears here sir. You are Khazar I assume?? Well if you are, your day of reckoning comes soon. The NWO will last only a moment in the space of eternity, your hell however will never end. God bless America. We the people stand firm against the foul Khazars and their Zionist regime and their Protocols of Zion. You bought the luciferian lie, how ironic that the so called illuminated ones have fallen prey throughout your inbred generations to the father of all lies. Enjoy your short lived power while it lasts, as above so below does actually apply, just not in the way you think. You and your ilk have been played by the great trickster, so much for your illuminated state of being…Evil never fully wins, it just pretends to. All will be made right in due time.
The enemies of the Khazars will be powerless before our fully operational battle station.
Ah, so I was right. Well let me tell you something Khazar (fake Jew/money changer/historically defeated/enemy of the King of Kings), what you and your triple helix malformed ilk don’t realize is that once fear of death is removed what do you have as your greatest tool? Nothing. Fear is off the table sir, your fully formed battle station has been rendered impotent. Better to die with honor than live with none. By the way, your so called argument is just silly, a definite sign of lack of merit. If you represent this malignant group then this last battle will be far easier than I thought. Power is a strange thing is it not? What is real power? The ability to rule the secular world economy and oppress the globe, or is it the intrinsic ability to fight for God given free will no matter the consequence? I know my answer and I know yours as well. I welcome your defeat and I welcome our victory. God bless America.
Don’t be too proud of this theological terror you’ve constructed. The ability to destroy an historically obscure Central Asian polity is insignificant next to the power of the
Force.
Well sir I’ve not constructed it, that is your defeat. Your ancient deity hasn’t had an original creative thought or action throughout his tired existence, which is the base power of your so called Force. He can only destroy or malign that which has been created. There is a far cry between Creator and a creation, you and yours will realize that AGAIN at the appointed time. You’ve been mislead throughout the ages, defiling good with occult rituals and silly symbols all in the name of your so called Force, to achieve nothing but limited secular power directed by the fallen. They were dealt with once, they will be dealt with again. You pay homage to falsity and you Khazars know its falsity. YOUR pride is evident, not mine. Silly diabolical minion, the sewer of all things rotten in this Earth.
I find your lack of faith… disturbing.
You are a Khazar and you speak to me about faith? That’s psychopathic.
If only you knew the power of the Dark Side…
I’m well acquainted with the dark side sir, perhaps even better acquainted than you. However my relation to it is one of clarity and not seduction. You have no idea what daemon has in store for you, no idea at all. God have mercy on your very soul.
Impressive. Most Impressive, but you are not a Jedi yet.
Aren’t you referring to yourself? I have no interest in the force or that impotent arrogant entity’s training of such. I leave that state of jedi fragility to you. By the way arrogance does not brilliance make, it is the marker of fools. My Father the Most High, the Uncaused Cause, the Prime Mover, the Alpha and Omega Is Truth, Mind and complete reason. He offers no tricks and treats, no seductions, no maze..just simple truths to His children, His beloveds. Oh, and I saw your blog concerning May day, 5/1, very crafty of you to draw people into an infernal day of satanic sacrifice. How do you demonic Khazars sleep at night? Home schooled as well..typical background, must not allow interference with the creation of a monster hmm?
Oh dear G-d… I can’t take it any more. You’ve broken me. I’ve been throwing Star Wars quotes at you for three days and you STILL are clinging to this incredibly bizarre Khazar routine. Either you are the most dedicated troll I have ever come across or the greatest looney since that guy that authored Time Cube.
Very clever of you to track down the blog linked to from my profile (and mentioned in my screen name!). Slightly bizaree to focus in on a two-month old blog post… and downright weird of you to not, y’know, read the fucking thing. My May Day post is about the history of how international communist movement has seized on May 1st as an annual celebration of Marxism, and how I hope to be part of the movement to transform it into a day of remembrance for the uncountable millions of innocents murdered by that ideology. I can’t keep on mocking you with Star Wars references, you’re too g-ddamned dense to pick up on them and so much of a fanatic prick that you are changing the commemoration of mass genocide into a front for a Satanic conspiracy? G-d in Heaven, how can you breathe with your head shoved that far up your own ass?
Also? Homeschooling!? WTF!? At no point in my life was I ever homeschooled… nor do I ever allude to such anywhere on my blog.
You fail at popular culture, reading comprehension, AND basic human decency. Quite the trifecta.
Actually your star wars quotes lasted for just over a day, trouble concentrating or do you just play loose with the truth. Good grief you are so full of yourself, maintaining this conversation is a testament to my patience…glad it’s over. Ciao.
This conversation is hilarious, but Angela’s side is so hilarious that I can’t help but think she’s making her stuff up and doing some kind of performance art. I’d love to see what some of the great Jewish comedians of the 20th century would do in your place. Wouldn’t you?
Listen Mr. whatever you are..i was well aware of the star war references, I’m not a dolt. I do believe however you are Khazar, whom I find totally despicable, and your hubris is absolutely suffocating. I waited to see whether you were truly psychopathic or just some silly minion grasping at some jedi baloney, I thought you might have actually had a psychopathic delusion fusing yourself with that nitwit character Darth Vader….life today is far stranger than fiction, and people like you are more easily read between the lines..less distortion that way. By the way, your usage of God’s name in vain tells me what side you roll on and it’s not the side I pay homage to. You are vile, pompous and a buffoon who believes he has some self ordained right to lend disdain and correction to the ‘lesser’, the goyim, which I proudly am. I’ll ignore the rest of the references to my anatomy, your crass nature is something you obviously can’t contain. As for the May Day reference, I stand by what I said and what does a 2 month old post have to do with my critique? I’ll answer that, nothing, and I rarely believe in coincidence, only planned coincidence. Per my language style, I’ve been privy to those of your ilk before; it’s standard for them to cling to the absurdities of what you/they believe to be the proper speech and inflection pattern. I leave that silly nonsense to you and yours. It seems those most lacking in character have the need to denigrate at such an inferior intellectual level. Unlike you, I maintain a degree of respect for others ‘until’…you pushed my ‘until’ button with your snide KKK reference.. At any rate it’s been entertaining Khazar, I hope as much for you as it was for me.
Um, you were the one that brought the Ku Klux Klan into the conversation. You were the one that brought up my May Day blog post. You were the one that assumed, somehow, that I am a part of an obscure central Asian empire that ceased to exist c. 967 CE.
I mean, seriously, dude… I majored in History at university with an emphasis in medieval period and the Crusades. I had to look up Khazaria before I remembered exactly what the heck you were even babbling about. I have to commend you for coming up with the most… unique… justification for your Anti-Semitic bigotry that I’ve ever encountered. So, um, kudos?
Do you believe everyone who you find annoying is secretly a medieval Turkish Jew? Or are some of us just good, old-fashion mud people like the Aryan Brotherhood normally rants about?
(Oh, and how exactly did my family get from the shores of the Black Sea to the lowlands of Scotland? Did they hafta move in the Dark Ages, before Khazaria fell, or did it still count if they moved later? Were all those years of Catholicism a part of my secret Kazarian indoctrination? Should I add more Turkish food to my diet…? I’ve never really cared for Turkish Delight, but since I’m apparently part of a thousand-year old secret society of 10th Century Ku Klux Klansmen Jews, maybe I should try it again?)
Okay let me make myself clear…point 1. I’m not a dude, see the name…Angela. Point 2, I made a statement about Zionism ZIONISM, and its relationship to the KKK, YOU responded with a disgusting ill-thought (COMICAL?) reference to cross burning, so who is the bigot here you or me. Point 3, I was speaking as a peacemaker, to quell potential racial rioting..which is on the table, unless you want to tin foil hat that up as well. Point 4, If you have a problem with Khazar then replace it with Zionist..it’s the same thing…so lets just maintain Zionist and throw the Khazar reference away, shall we? Point 5, I am NOT Anti-Semitic in any way, I am anti-Zionist, if that offends you, then it’s a personal problem and not mine. Point 6, I majored in philosophy and psychoanalytic theory, I like the existential realms with little to no restrictions aside from theoretical proof. Point 7, Mind your manners and watch your language sir, you will not address me as some fish monger, let me make that extremely clear. Point 8, I have as much of a right as you do to offer my opinion, while I still have that right in this new socialized Marxist state of America. Point 9, I did read your blogs, and I can even COMPREHEND them, you being so intellectually superior (according to you) and all. Point 10, Pardon my inability to actually articulate my thoughts, but let me try by saying, YOU are not a comedian, in fact you suck at it…I find nothing comedic in your sarcastic responses. Point 11, Thou dost protest too much..that is self explanatory I believe? Part 12, If you are not pro Zionism then I offer my apology, if you are I reaffirm my response. Concluding statement; Oh and please ignore any semantic problems, you know you’re dealing with a mental midget here, remember? Here’s a suggestion for a new domain name [email protected] little play on words I offer up to the Jedi master and his force (force of narcissistic baloney).
Heh, okay, I gotta admit “HubrISH” is really quite clever. I might use that in the future. But on to your main points:
Point 1) I use “dude” as a fairly gender-neutral term, I grew up in the `80s/90s, its just part of the vernacular, like addressing a mixed-gendered group with “You guys want to go get lunch?”
Point 2) Zionism and the Ku Klux Klan: Since both the historic, Post-Civil War Klan and the modern-day, post-1970s KKK are openly and vociferously white nationalist, racist, antisemitic (and in the case of the modern Klan, Neo-Nazi) groups… Yeah, your position that the Klan is a Zionist organization is deserving of little more than dismissive mockery.
Point 3) Angela the Peacemaker: You invoke one of the most notorious domestic terror groups in our nation’s history and claim that they are secretly controlled by one of the more famously oppressed religious minorities in world history in order to secretly arrange to victimize one of the most famously oppressed ethnic groups in our nation’s history… and you meant for this to QUELL hard feelings!?
Point 4) Khazaria ceased to exist in the 10th Century CE, that you bring it up at all is just insane… that you think your audience can just MadLib away Khazar with Zionist is also nuts.
Point 5) “I’m not an Anti-Semite, just an Anti-Zionist” is the opposite side of the coin from “I’m not a racist, some of my best friends are black.” Disguising your hatred of the Jews by playing games with the label isn’t really effective at all… especially when you combine it with your bizarre (albeit original) theory that the Jews are part of and/or controlling a conspiracy hatched in the Dark Ages in Central Asia.
Point 6) Great, I majored in History with a double minor in Political Science and Women’s Studies, I also picked up an Associates in Business (Paralegal), and I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night… Why are we sharing our C.V.’s with each other?
Point 7) Fish-monger!? Um, what? When did I even allude to anyone being a fish-monger? That’s out of left field even by the already random standards of this conversation.
Point 8) You have every right to hold your opinion, and every right express your opinion within whatever bounds Mr. Parks lets you here on his site. I haven’t explicitly said otherwise and if it was implied that was through error on my part. Having said that, I also have the right to hold an opinion about your opinion and, in turn, say whatever the hell I want about it. (To wit: You are an anti-Semitic nutter with an unhealthy obsession with medieval Turkey and poor grammar.)
Point 9) I haven’t claim intellectual superiority, only better skill at the mechanics of writing. Which I will admit is mostly a trick of rote memory and adherence to rules. Not a feat of great intellect. On the other hand, you did say that on my blog you found references to my being home schooled in the past… Since these references are nowhere to be found on that blog, um, yeah, that does call into question your reading comprehension ability.
Point 9.5) Oy vey, this is a long list.
Point 10) Conceded. I’m a sarcastic asshole, have been for most of my life.
Point 11) If this point was meant to be self-explanatory, then I need the remedial explanation.
Point 12) I’m proudly and openly Zionist. Deal with it.
But the HubrISH thing really is genuinely clever.
hubrISH, do you even read what you post to me? I responded with my curriculum data because YOU initiated it (re-read), I followed suit because YOU apparently thought it important. These early posts were referring to the potential of black on white crime, which is why I posted in the first place. I’m not concerned with black on Jewish crime because there are not many instances of it in the mainstream media. I see what is coming and I state what I state concerning the current racism (white on black, apparently whites can only be racist), and the media nurturing this black on white hatred exponentially. On most of your points we will agree to disagree. If in fact you are saying that Judaism is Zionism in its philosophy and doctrine, then I rebuff both due to its anti-Christian ideology and nature. I’m Roman Catholic and do not embrace Mosaic Law, Jesus fulfilled the law with His Crucifixion. As far as homeschooling is concerned, you stated you were self and parent educated, I made a leap of logic believing you were implying homeschooling, I mean really, logically what would you think upon reading that? Per fish monger, a fish monger has a crass and guttural nature in my culture, hence the terminology. Thou dost protest too much was an implication that your angry over the top response, was indicative of one reacting to a truism and not a fiction. Per your concluding statement, i believe I have dealt with it. Glad to have given you something you will use (hubrISH), your ability to find that funny leads me to believe there’s a nice person under that stiff exterior and one with an admirable ability to laugh at oneself…also, since I’m tending towards that assumption then please explain to me what Zionism is to you. If I want answers I may as well go to the source correct? I have no problem admitting when I’m wrong if in fact i am.
You’re committing a common error and taking a portion of my statement out-of-context in order reinterpret it in way that suits your narrative. eNeecie assumed that I was British due to my writing style, I responded by explaining that I was I was self-educated to favor a more “old-fashioned” standard of American English. It is possible to be educated by a school, one’s family, AND by one’s own efforts. You also claimed you read this on my blog, which is still patently false.
Zionism, in a nutshell, is a blanket term for a number of different political movements that all share the same core belief of supporting a Jewish nation state in the territory of Israel. Such a lose term is somewhat ineffective as a label due to the vast array of philosophies it entails, after all a Labor Zionist and Socialist Zionist share very little common ground with the Gush Emunim, and none of those particularly share much in common with the Sephardi-Orthodox Shas party. But, at the core of each, is one thing they can all agree on: a Jewish nation state in the territory of Israel.
If you’ve read my blog you will know that I describe myself as a minarchist and an adherent of the Non-Aggression Principle. This means, for various reasons ranging from the practical and pragmatic to the ethical and idealistic, I beleive that the right of the Jewish people for self-determiniation, self-governance, and to generally… Oh, how did that one Zionist phrase it? Oh yes, “to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them[.]”
Anti-Zionism is almost always indistinguishable from antisemitism… that you keep harping on with your bizarre Khazar blood libel conspiracy gives me little reason to believe anything else.
I may have committed a common error but I did not manipulate what you stated out of context to suit my or any narrative. You assume too much without evidence to validate your claim. Don’t project what I did or did not do. That’s your projection not my own. I did not read what this other person said, I read your response and made that particular leap of logic…good grief are you always this anal and confrontational?? Excuse me, but it seems YOU made a common mistake and decided that I was referring to your blog. I never mentioned your blog in my latest explanation. I merely cited what I read without referencing where I read it, you made that leap not me!! Seems the Jedi master is also human, and therefore subject to error just like the rest of the world. Thank you for the explanation. I was interested in your subjective interpretation of it not the objective definition, which you did finally outline. I thought I said to disregard the Khazar reference and utilize the Zionist (or even Ashkenazi) reference…therefore YOU are now harping on it not me. You have a huge chip on your shoulder which I personally am not responsible for, could you tone it down a bit or are you just attempting a constant bait and switch take-down? At any rate, Nature’s God? Could you clear that up for me..is that just a broad based reference to God as Creator of nature, or is it referencing material existentialism..the universe and man as deity? Separate, why separate from humanity? Equal to whom, humanity or God..is this an attachment to your principle of the chosen? The powers of the Earth, these are what? Lastly, what are the entitlements you speak of, and are they just applicable to the Zionist state or the populous as a whole? Please try and be less vehement in your responses, they detract from the scope of the discussion. I’m attempting to understand your view; could you just allow me that privilege without attempting to alienate me? Just think of me as a benign audience and you’re the instructor. Perhaps that will help…Oh in closing, your views on the Talmud and the Noahide laws?
I was quoting the introduction to the Declaration of Independence, for crying out loud! A more eloquent assertion of Natural Law and the ability of a people to assume
political independence hasn’t been penned.
It’s the FIRST SENTENCE of that document!
Will you stop assuming what I’m saying regarding (this time) the quote? You’re going to end up with a blood pressure problem if you don’t calm down. Natural Law has moral-ethical implications. I’m asking your perspective on moral right. Does moral right (Divine providence) take precedence or priority over right with regard to the law, in your opinion? Interpretation of Natural Law continues to this day..I wanted to know the Zionist position regarding it. In your case, an individual interpretation. Let me explain why, I believe that one of the root causes of racial, ethnic, religious hatred is judging the whole by a few. This is why I’m asking; I want an individual interpretation from an individual standpoint, not the interpretation en masse.
Mr. Parks, and what I’m ALLOWED TO SAY?? I don’t think so, i don’t need someone playing PC police with my mind and free will. If that is what this site is made up of then to hell with it, I’ll go elsewhere. As I stated before, I’ll exercise my freedom of speech while I still have it, period and no exceptions.
I meant to say this so I wil, forgotten in the heat of the moment. I’m and individual I do not fit into a neat little box. What you see as poor grammar I see as my creative spirit..I neither apologize for it nor do I intend to change it. Okay then, Ciao.
Украина должна забыть о Крыме и НАТО… НАТО бомбили христианские сербов. сатанизм является еврейский культ.
So not only is Ku Klux Klan a Zionist organization funded by the Khazars of Russia…
And satanism is a Jewish cult…
So, if we add the two conspiracies together, then Satanists are Khazars!
It all makes so much sense now.
ISIS = Khazar = Kiev junta = Zionist IMF
Okay, I know this is a waste of time. But you refer to God so I am going to take a chance that you might actually believe in Him. As you stated, Lucifer is the father of lies and you don’t want to follow him, so the truth should matter to you. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was proven to be a hoax nearly a 100 years ago. I know it’s fun to feel like you are in on a big secret and all, but believe me real truth is more fun than a lie, in fact the truth will set you free.
The real hoax is actually that it is not a hoax. Are you acquainted with them? Read them than make up your own mind. Have you researched the Denver Airport, Anubis, the murals, its occult theme fully coordinated in the Protocols. The recent CIA move to Colorado, the elitist purchase of the surrounding land. Thank you for your reply but they are not a hoax, they want you to believe they are. No I don’t feel all warm and cuddly like I’m in on some big secret, I’m merely a child of God who will give my life for the liberty He has promised all of us. Look around you what do you see? The truth is no longer hidden, it is there if you look for it.
Yes, and lies are never hidden.
Hey, didn’t expect you to believe me. You don’t know me. But I am curious, how do you discern truth from lies? Do you consider the source at all? Does it give you any pause at all that the Nazis used The Protocols of the Elders of Zion as justification of the Holocaust? Who do you think is a more reliable source: millions of Christians and scholars who denounce the document as a fake, or Adolf Hitler? Just askin’.
I ask the Holy Father for the gift of perception and discernment. Hitler was an occultist who pretended Catholicism, he was also involved with the politicized Zionism (eg. Fatherland), the Knights order and the Khazars. Why are you focusing on one point only, the Protocols, and not the paganized Babylonian Talmud, and the few other references I gave? Why is it so important for you to disavow the Protocols, which by the way have been historically accurate in the Khazar methodical takeover? Of course I consider the source, and there are as many scholars and Christians that do not denounce them as fake. You have every right to believe what you believe, as do I. Hitler was in collusion with the Zionist Khazars, all tyrannical figures have been in one way or another, and they continue to this very day. Are you disputing Zionism as the underpinning to all that is and has been foul? I’m not quite sure where your allegiance lies.
you keep saying the KKK is a Zionist group…. it’s a group created by Democrats after the civil war…. ironic that blacks mostly vote democrat…. when it was the republicans that fought for their freedom..
Also look at planned parenthood… democrats support that… the creator of the organization that became planned parenthood, Margaret Sanger, her goal to reduce the black population through birth control.
again , blacks are a supporter of democrats… that are actually in reality their enemy.
That is the truth Angela. Sadly, most will not or can not accept it and act accordingly.
You nailed it! The klan is all about Zionism. They hate the negroes, and the catholics, but they sure love them some Jews! Not like they love white people, of course.
Schmuck, you want us to ignore testimony like the essay above? White people are dishonest? Blacks have developed a culture of degeneracy. Criminal behavior, sexual responsibility, use of the worst addictive drugs, 70% out of wedlock births and it goes on. Is all of that White people’s dis honesty? It is a mess only Blacks can change, and your attitudes are common, no change from you.
Yes that is dishonesty dude. You believe nonsense because you have been indoctrinated by BS. There are no more poor black ppl doing these things than poor white ppl. The thing is , by percentages black ppl are poorer. You all are so prejudiced that you don’t realize that the things you complain about are ECONOMIC not racial. Take a journey to your poor white trash trailer parks and neighborhoods and you will find exactly the same problems. But you don’t have a problem with poor white trash smoking meth and crack, having babies out of wedlock, living off of welfare, having abortions, breaking in trailers, etc….because at least they aren’t black..lol.
That’s where you’re wrong, Andre. I have the utmost respect for anyone who works hard, takes advantage of the free education system to better themselves, and takes responsibility for their own economic reality. I could care less if that person is black, white, red, yellow or purple. On the other hand, anyone who lives in this great country full of opportunities and chooses not to work, have babies to increase their “take” from the government and makes no effort to better their situation, whether black or “white trash” or whatever, those are the people I have a problem with. Taxpayers have been pouring money into these poor communities for years but “economics” in these communities just keeps getting worse. It’s time for everyone to stop blaming their past (slavery), their current situation (I can’t do this myself or the government owes me) and the white man for his/her economic and social reality! Mr. Bonds, you do a great disservice to your community by continuing to perpetuate the same old excuses to blacks and whites who continue to be a drag on their communities and their country. We have to tell the disadvantaged that they are their own savior. The only way for anyone to get out of the rut they’re in is to change themselves! There are a lot of blacks and whites in this country who have done it!! We just need to stop giving money to people who are perfectly capable of working and tell them they CAN get ahead if they work hard. It’s not about black or white…it’s about attitude!
Carolyn, It seems you may be different from many of the racists on here. However, your focus is still off. First, would you ask a rape victim to ignore the fact that they have been raped? Would you ask the victims of Sandy Hook to ignore the atrocities they faced? You all don’t understand the difference between calling attention to injustice and making excuses. Nobody, least of all ME, makes excuses for people who choose not to do anything but be poor. This essay was not about those people. This essay was about CHILDREN being children in a poor community. I simply pointed out that this racist teacher was racist before she started teaching at the school and anything she observed there she would have used to justify her racist feelings. I agree that people can become successful DISPITE the uneven playing fields that exist. Blacks can become successful DISPITE the racism and prejudices that still exist. But, just because MILLIONS of us have become successful, productive citizens does NOT mean that racism, prejudice, and racial injustice has disappeared. This essay makes it clear that all of those things still exist. All of the racist who condone this essay prove that the hate for black people in this country is still so rampant that it can not be dismissed. Yet, you want us to ignore it and just move on. Easier said than done.
Andre, I have been raped and no one has ever asked me to ignore that fact. I have, however, accepted it and found ways to get past it. I don’t let it define me as a person and I would be offended if anyone told me that it’s OK to sit on my butt and brood about it. I feel the same way about slavery. It’s over, it happened but it’s not happening anymore, so those who were affected by it need to get over it and find a way to move on. What is the point of “calling attention to injustice” 100 years after slavery ended? Using race, slavery or the white racism inflicted on blacks over the past 100 years to condone today’s behavior is just one of dozens of excuses people use to continue to live off the taxpayer and be poor. Continuing the “poor black man” mindset only perpetuates the “I can’t do this/the government owes me” mentality, which keeps lower income people stuck in the poverty rut. This essay was not about CHILDREN, as you put it. This essay was about the general attitude of blacks (and whites) who are young adults and choose to blame everyone else for their financial situation, a lesson I’m sure they learn at home from parents who also feel someone owes them something for the “racism and prejudices that still exist.” You can’t deny that in many inner-city schools the observations of the writer of this essay as to how black students behave and speak is probably very accurate. I have several adult friends who happen to be black and speak exactly as described in the essay. I see many black (and white) youth every day who wear their pants below their butts and I hear them complain about how they get no respect. That is not a product of racism. That is, in my view, youth who don’t want respect from anyone other than the other youth they hang out with. Those young people need to understand that without an education and walking around looking like a gangster is not helping them to get a job.
Believe me, I know how difficult it is to move on, but isn’t that what people in poverty have to do in order to face their economic reality and teach their kids to better themselves so that they can all get out of that situation?? If you are, indeed, one of those people who grew up in poverty and became successful despite the odds, what inspired you?? Did you become successful because you were repeatedly told you couldn’t be successful because of where you grew up, or did you become successful because you were determined to get yourself out of that situation? I truly believe if blacks and whites like yourself would spend more time encouraging others to move on from the past and look to the future to become the best person they can be, we could bring millions of people out of poverty. I know it’s not easy, but I believe it’s the only way.
When I refer to slavery, it is only as a pretext to the attitudes of the current state of racism in this country. But when I talk about racism and prejudice I am not talking about 100 years ago, (even though Jim Crow was only 50 years ago), I am talking about what happens right now. Let me give you a few instances. Adults with black names on resumes are half as likely to be called for interviews. Black children with same test scores and GPA’s are 1/3 as likely to get into Ivy league schools. The are dozens of other instances where prejudice plays a part in how much more difficult it is for a black person to succeed in this country than a white person. But, you want us to say, well “that’s ok, we should not care at all about racism and prejudice”. Well, just because you got raped and it didn’t negatively effect you doesn’t mean everyone is able to do that, nor should they. “Evil prevails when good men do nothing”. We SHOULD call attention to the current injustice in the system. Not to use it as an excuse, but because we shouldn’t let evil prevail. We should want this country to be the best it can be and there is not possible if we simply let ignorant, racist, evil, hateful, and illogical people hold on to untruths, propaganda, and unjust attitudes about a race of people who have done nothing to deserve the hate and vitriol that many white people (I would say up to 40%) still have for them. As for what inspired me…my mother who was on welfare. According to this teacher, and most prejudiced people who believe BS, I was one of those youth who couldn’t speak correct English, would have many children who I would leave and be a deadbeat dad, and end up poor and living off of the government. You all were wrong about me and wrong about the majority of black people like me. This is easy to find out by checking out poverty stats that say only about 15% of us live in poverty. That means 85% of us DON’T LIVE IN POVERTY. So, like I said, the vast majority of us are productive citizens but the prevailing thought for most whites is that MOST black people live In poverty and are just making excuses. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Andre, I respect your opinion that you “SHOULD call attention to the current injustice in the system,” but I definitely don’t agree. Racism is not going to go completely away any time in the foreseeable future, because too many politicians benefit by perpetuating the feud. Maybe I’m naïve, but I believe that we will reduce and, hopefully someday, eradicate racism by encouraging blacks and whites to work hard to improve their own condition. Stop relying on the government…only YOU have the ability to make your life better. You may not use slavery and racism as an excuse, but some do. I’m surprised you don’t hold all blacks to your own standard and expect them to do as you did to get rid of the welfare mentality and push themselves to succeed. No one, black or white, is going to better their economic condition by wearing their pants below their butt, having tattoos or piercings from head to toe, speaking an alternate form of English, or failing out of high school. But that’s just my opinion. I could be wrong.
All the best to you, Mr. Bonds!
Carolyn, I understand where you are coming from. And, I don’t think you are naïve. I just think you have a misunderstanding of a few things. First, racism is not about economics. To the racists either you are a rich “N#%$#” or a poor “N#$%$^” but you are still a “N#%^%&”. It wouldn’t matter to them if 100% of us were middle class or above, and productive citizens. Hate and ignorance are not based on facts. So, your belief that as long as we ignore the racism and pull ourselves up by our boot-straps despite the uneven playing field and unfair practices is just a little be off because that is not what would end racism. The only thing that will end it is trying to change the hearts and minds of the people who hate with love, and correct information. As for holding all blacks to my standards, that is not possible. See the part that conservatives and liberal optimists miss is, everyone is not born with the same intellect, work ethic, ambition, talent, skill set, circumstances, parents, or support. If everyone were, we would all be rich , right? People have different wants and needs. People have different goals and dreams. We can’t require everyone to assimilate to what we want for ourselves. That is hypocritical and unfair. The vast majority of people on welfare (black, white, or other) are on it for less than 5 years. In fact, about 81% of them are off in less than 5 years. Some people need short term help…just like my mother. The lies and propaganda used to manipulate poor and middle class republicans has them believing that most people on welfare live off of the government all of their lives. That is simply not true for blacks or whites. It is also a belief by many that everyone on welfare is unemployed. Over 50% of people on welfare have jobs. It is just that even with 2 30 hour per weeks jobs at minimum wage, it is not enough to support a healthy household. This misinformation perpetuates stereotypes and disdain for poor people. But, ask yourself this, why even focus on poor people? Poor people have no effect on the middle class whatsoever. Rich people and Politicians control ALL of the markets, economic policy, greed, and exploitation in this country. If there was no such thing as welfare your check would not go up by 1 penny. So, it seems a completely illogical, emotional, and futile to dislike poor people just because they are poor because changing their plight doesn’t change ours at all.
This might be the wrong place to reply, but I’m coming back after the fact. I’m bothered that people might think that black schools might all be failing their kids – that is not the case. Black teachers and administrators are just as capable and motivated as anyone else. You’d have to be crazy to think that they’d want their kids to fail, or even to be apathetic about it.
The problem is parent participation. There is very little of it. Homework doesn’t live up to its name if no one at home will even look at it. This is the sad secret black teachers must live with. Moms won’t oversee their children’s homework.
Is it because they are unable to do the problems their selves? That’s the dilemma all parents have had to face for the last hundred years – sometimes by those parents who spoke no English. They still persevered. Black parents must do the same. My parents didn’t graduate high school. That never stopped them from teaching me all that they knew. They knew how to read and write English and taught it to me before i started first grade.
Black people are just as smart as anyone else. The huge question facing this nation is: With welfare so easily available, are they too lazy to bother?
IF YOU CANNOT SUPPORT YOUR FAMILY, THEN STOP MAKING BABIES! Simple solution! My parents didnt start having children until they COULD AFFORD US! And that was in the 1950s when there was NO WELFARE, families helped each other and people waited and planned before having children, unlike today where some just have baby after baby to get MORE money which they don’t even spend on the baby! It takes two parents, a mom and a dad to raise children properly! Single mothers today seem to be the norm, it’s no wonder children are not taught to delay their wants until after they graduate and can take care of their children! It’s too easy today, lots of high schools provide day care for children having children! Does THAT teach anyone responsibility for ones own choices?? Nope!
What does that have to do with anything? There are 14 MILLION more poor white people in this country than poor black people. 40% of people on welfare are white people. So, although you are trying to degrade black people with this paragraph, you will have to add the millions more white people who are poor IF and only IF you are trying to be objective.
“Adults with black names on resumes are half as likely to be called for interviews.”
So name the next generation “William” and “Charles”.
“Black children with same test scores and GPA’s are 1/3 as likely to get into Ivy league schools.”
Who cares about Ivy league schools? Too much debt for too little actual education. No one in my family has ever attended an Ivy league school; no one in my high school class went to one; no one from my college class went to grad school at one. Are we oppressed? Or were we more discerning when shopping for an education?
How many of the “dozens” of examples you can come up with come from are the result of refusal to assimilate?
That’s Crap that black adults are LESS likely to get into college with the same SAT scores as a white person! Every college I ever applied to asked the question if I was a person of color and GOT MORE POINTS IF I had been! It seems that most schools are falling all over themselves to bring in minority students because of affirmative action, plus the colleges get MORE GOV FUNDING for each minority then they do for a white student! Don’t you EVER believe that white people also get discriminated against in job, when a person of any minority applies to any fire dept in any city, the minority gets extra points in the hiring program at the expense sometimes of others who may have tested higher in the testing but the minority will still get the job. Is that fair? What about certain jobs where women have a hard time getting hired and even when they do, the receive less pay then a man would for doing the SAME job! Is THAT FAIR? Life is NOT fair, get over it, try harder and stop pushing the lie that most white people are still racist today in this country! I see a LOT of racism coming from people of color towards white people . It’s been 100 years since slavery was abolished, I PERSONALLY never owned any slaves nor did ANYONE I KNOW! There are probably no former slaves left alive in America today so it’s time to stop all this BS, and just be a decent human being and let’s just move on!
None of what you just typed had anything to do with what I posted…smh. I NEVER said MOST white people are racist. Stop lying. I NEVER said life was fair. I NEVER said you owned slaves or anyone you know owned slaves or even that white people should feel guilty about slavery. What I said is 500 YEARS OF TREATING PEOPLE AS LESS THAN HUMAN will and has effected subsequent generations psychologically! If you want to ignore that or get all defensive and pretend it is not true, that is your right. But, I will take experts on racism, human behavior, and psychology over yours. I’m sure you don’t mind. In addition, for you to pretend that racism doesn’t exist in this country is down right dishonest. Why are white people so DISHONEST about racism? 30% of white Americans still believe they are better than black people JUST because of the color of their skin. That is a FACT. You want me to “get over it” or “move on”. Well WHY ARE YOU OK WITH IT? Even if it were only 10% (because I know you are going to challenge the numbers with emotion), why would you be ok with 10% of Americans treating other Americans like second class citizens?
As for your education misunderstanding…here is why Affirmative Action is NECESSARY
“In 1998, California’s ban on affirmative action went into effect in undergraduate admissions, and the effect at Berkeley was considerable. In its first year without race-based preferences, the school accepted its least diverse freshman class in 17 years, admitting 56 percent fewer blacks and 49 percent fewer Latinos than in 1997. NECESSARY ”
Affirmative Action is not to impose reverse discrimination on white people as you overly emotional people would suggest…it is to help EVEN THE PLAYING FIELD for POOR WHITES and for minorities. If you believe that there is an even playing for poor and minority people in this country who has instilled racial animus in its citizens for 500 years and those in power are 95% white then I have some beach front property in Iowa to sell you. Wake up.
There was ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in that article that was RACIST’Andre! She was simply giving an account of what she saw! If TRUTH IS RACISM, WELL THEN SO BE IT! Get over YOURSELF AND WORK TO HELP OTHERS instead of WHINING!!!
Lol, you are the one throwing a tantrum. The MAN said ALL WHITE PEOPLE SHOULD KEEP THEIR KIDS AWAY FROM BLACK SCHOOLS EVEN IF THE BLACK SCHOOLS WERE IN NICER NEIGHBORHOODS! smh. Affluent black schools outperform poor white schools in EVERY WAY…SO…..that was a RACIST STATEMENT!
Amen Carolyn! AMEN,!!!!!!!!!
From what I understand trailers are bough or rented by the whites, which makes them less trashy then all the black trash who live in the ‘pra-jecs’ or Section 8. I’ve never heard of people WANTING to move to the ghettos, but people want to move where whites are, less crime. While I’m sure you have more experience being black trash with the projects then I do the trailer parks, I doubt they’re as bad as the ghettos.
Lol, does your hate stem from something that a black person has done to you? There are waaaayyyyyy more poor white trash living in trailers and poor rural areas than there are black trash living in the projects. Only 24% of black people live in poverty. That’s about 10 million of them. 11% of white people live in poverty…that’s over 29 million people! And for your information I have more experience with poor white trash (moving to Kansas when I was 11) than I do with blacks in the projects …because I never lived there…only visited..lol
I don’t know, I’ve only come across one trailer park in my life, but seen dozens of ghettos. No one wants to live near blacks, people would rather live with whites where it’s safe. Are there bad white areas? Sure? Are there good black areas? No, of course not. Andre, to you killing and stealing is normal, so you assume that’s what all people do. You’re drenched in black debauchery, that you think you understand how normal people think. You understand nothing.
“From what I understand trailers are bough or rented by the whites, which makes them less trashy then all the black trash who live in the ‘pra-jecs’ or Section 8.”
You’ve never lived next to a trailer park, have you? We had fences destroyed, crops destroyed, and the places was the #1 destination for the local police and life squad.
No never lived near a trailer park. How many whites live in trailer parks as compared to blacks who live in ‘the pro-jeks’? Most white areas are safe, most black areas are not.
“You do know there are 22 (known) white supremacist groups?”
And what bearing does that have on Black children remaining willfully ignorant? If anything, assuming your facts are true, this should serve to inspire them to become educated, lest they perpetrate the stereotype that these white supremacists promulgate.
Stephanie, I only brought up that point because someone was saying that Black people are the most racist in this country. That is sheer BS. So, in order to illustrate my point, I point out the discrepancy in the number of hate groups. 22 white hate groups and 4 black hate groups. The KKK has more members than all 4 black hate groups combined.
As for children becoming better educated, it has less to do with race and skin color and more to do with economics. Compare and contrast the poor white schools (even though there are very few) to the poor black schools and see how strikingly similar they are in drop out rates and test scores.
“Compare and contrast the poor white schools (even though there are very few) to the poor black schools and see how strikingly similar they are in drop out rates and test scores. ”
Been there, done that, graduated 2nd in class as a National Merit Scholar. My grade school was one of the least-well funded in the state, but consistently beat out the inner-city schools in Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus, etc. The differences was CULTURE.
Just because you keep repeating the SAME TALKING POINTS over and over does NOT make it so but perhaps it helps you convince yourself! Sad,,, totally sad!
Those 22 groups wouldn’t be known outside their immediate family members if it weren’t for the SPLC using them for fund-raising and race-baiting.
Seriously, the KKK? Al Sharpton has incited more murders during his adult life than has the Klan in the same time, yet he’s treated as someone worth listening to.
There are black holidays, black months, black television, a government agency that caters to only those who are black……..such as Black History Month, BETv, and the NAACP. The stereotype that you are complaining about is proven on a daily basis. I live just a little south of Columbus, Ohio. Every time the news leads with a story of a murder or a robbery, rape………..nine times out of ten it is perpetrated by a black person. That isn’t just once in a while or one time a year, its every day of every year for the past thirty years. Groups like the Black Panthers are vicious and get away with things that no other group of white people could even think about and still you whine. You also get jobs before a white person even if that said white person is more qualified. Once you’re hired, you are virtually impossible to fire because the Jesse Jackson NAACP train will roll through town screaming racism no matter what you did or didn’t do to get fired. So I’m here to tell you….the reputation that blacks have is absolutely all of your own doing. The school systems that blacks attend are also attended by white people who graduate, go to college, have careers, and lives. If blacks are failing then that is there fault. The racism that you scream about is something that you all have created. Everything is racism if you don’t get your way. There’s no white guilt here. I have never owned a slave, drained a pool because a black swam there, have never asked a black employee to use a different bathroom or sit at a different lunch table. Those same old tired complaints just aren’t holding up anymore. You are your own worst enemies. You have to talk louder, laugh louder and be the center of attention or you are experiencing racism. It’s ridiculous. Grow up and stop blaming your laziness and your failures on society.
Lynn, your ignorance and hate is staggering. Just like the teacher who wrote this essay, you don’t care what the facts are because you formed a hate of black people before you even got all of the information. That is your prerogative. I wouldn’t dream of trying to change it, because logic never persuades emotion. But, I will just say this you are no better than me or any of my black friends and family, contrary to your belief. You just BELIEVE you are because of the color of your skin, but because you have done anything different from anyone that comes from your same situation. Take Care
YOU ARE FULL OF CRAP! Please shut up, your constant repeating lies is wearing thin on ALL of us! I know MANY people of color who would be greatly ASHAMED OF YOU AND WOULD TELL YOU TO SHUT UP TOO, GROW THE HELL UP!!!
My compliments! You fully stated how I feel and Im sure how MOST feel! I’m sure Andre will just call what you said as horribly racist! Fact is, HE’S THE RACIST HERE! Way to go Lynnlynn
” The fact that white people are too dishonest to just admit that they
believe they are better than blacks simply because of the color of their
skin is the reason racism will never die.”
I’m going to go out on a limb here and make a few points. I don’t think that white people (in general) think that they are *better* than non-whites; it is that white people (again, this is a broad generality) make decisions that produce more desirable outcomes – complete primary schooling; obtain a job; practice responsible family formation.
I do agree that the welfare ‘revolution’ of the LBJ years was aimed at getting non-whites into the voting booths regardless of the outcome (which was lifelong dependency; essentially Curleyism). The people of color whom I know that are functional (intact families, strong parenting, career-focused) they come from intact families. I think that is a big part of it.
Additionally, crime is a major factor – the stats from the 2005 FBI Color of Crime report speak for themselves. When provided with limited information, a person’s survival instinct will compel decisions that appear racist but are aimed at reducing risk.
Peter, your limb is broken. Racists (and I am not saying that all white people are racist) do not form their opinions on being better than black people based on facts or “decisions that produce more desirable results”. Racists form their opinions based on ignorance and nonsense. Poor and middle class racists feel they are even better than Michael Jordan, Colin Powell, Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, President Obama, black doctors, lawyer, businessmen, educators, entertainers, etc. I does not matter how successful,productive, intelligent, or moral a black person is …racist white people think they are better! They form a hateful, emotional viewpoint and then they seek any information that helps them justify the hate. The problem with that is, they will believe nonsense like “most black people are on welfare”, “most black men are dead beat dads”, “most black people are criminals” (that was from Ron Paul) ” most black people are lazy and unemployed”, The list of lies and propaganda goes on and on. But what is FACT is , it wouldn’t matter if every black person in this country were as successful and productive as Colin Powell, racists would still hate and think they are better than black people.
“Poor and middle class racists feel they are even better than Michael Jordan, Colin Powell, Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, President Obama, black doctors, lawyer, businessmen, educators, entertainers, etc.”
I’m sure they do.
What the attitudes of a vanishingly small minority have to do with the price of tea in China is an open question, however.
Perfumed Prince Colin Powell?
Jesus H. Christ!
Do poor and middle class white people think they are better than General Powell? Just stay on topic.
I have NEVER SAID that I was BETTER THEN ANYONE OF ANY COLOR OR CREED! AND NO ONE I HAVE EVER KNOWN AS A FRIEND HAS EVER FELT THAT WAY! I think thou dost protest too much!
Jackie, I didn’t say you…but 30% of white Americans still feel and think that way. Sad but true.
And YOU dear Andre believe YOU ARE BETTER THEN the rest of us! WRONG! Racism= ANDRE
I believe I am better than Racist because I am not racist..YES! That is based on emotional and intellectual maturity…not race. Racist Blacks, whites, Hispanics, Asians, or anyone else…yes I am better than them.
Calling someone who fights against racism a racist is like calling someone who fights against rape a rapist. It is asinine!! ..lol
You know you’re making sh*t up. I suspect you’re pulling numbers from Morris Dees at the “Southern Poverty Law Center.” When he takes a break from living the polygamist dream, he preys on white guilt to pad his several hundred million dollar bank account. It’s made him rich for the last four decades.
Mr. Bonds you are so right, White people think that they are better than every race. I realized so much more about them with this G. Zimmerman trial. Let’s go back to OJ, I was walking up the stairs at Macy on 34th street when the verdict was read. I was willing to go along with the Justice system on what ever. He was found not guilty, and they went wild in the restaurant. Here are people Tea Party members included (of which I am one, TPP) who are suppose to be good law bidding, Founder Father lovers, unhappy with a Verdict…. Now many years later, you have a Black kid who goes to the store, w/o a gun or a knife and never returns home. Yet, these good ole citizens want the 1/2 white man with a gun, to go free. Better yet, I even have a bunch of White women mostly sending posts on facebook of every crime committed by blacks on white people. Even continue to mention all of the Black on Black crime, so really they’re saying “what does it mean if one more black male is killed.” And wanting to know why the media has not picked up on it. I am shocked on their rationale for wanting to free this man who never should’ve been allowed to have a gun. I now look at White people differently than before. Most of them are so ignorant of their racist ways and believe it still business as usual.
I don’t think that Communism had as much to do with the Blacks not assimilating. I think the prejudicial policies and activities of the authorities in the US dissuaded Blacks more than anything. Imagine the resentment. You’re supposed to love America, but America treats you like crap. And you have no where else to go. So you have to stay in this country and be a second class citizen. I doubt many of us would be too enthusiastic about being American under those circumstances
Most ALL of the Black Movement folks in the 60s were Socialists of one genre or another. That is a fact of history. The Communists have, since the 40s, infiltrated many areas of American culture – starting with the alleged entertainment industry. Blacks were merely a tool for them (as they could, as most Leftists, care LESS about Blacks and their causes) in their disruption of American society. Saul Alinsky had MANY Black disciples – Frank Marshall Davis being one AND a VERY INFLUENTIAL Communist for Obozo.
Do you follow history at all?
Yep I do. And I know that if the US would have treated blacks better, they wouldn’t have to worry about communist coming in and swaying their minds. The US set their own table in that regard. Blame Communism all you want, but Blacks resent America because they were historically treated badly, not because someone convinced them to. Black ppl in that time were looking for anything that would deliver them from being second class citizens. It was clear to them that simply being an American wasn’t enough. This was a problem that the policies of the Federal Govt and Local Govts created for themselves. Like I said, communism did not turn blacks against the US, the US did that.
Also, try to not condescend. Or to look like a conspiracy nut. Not a good look.
Furthermore, you talk about Blacks trying to assimilate after WWII… The main way that soldiers had to assimilate after WWII was through the G.I. Bill. The unequal application of the provisions of the G.I. Bill is well documented. Black vets were blocked from utilizing the hard fought benefits they earned while in service to their country. So yes, blacks tried to assimilate, but were denied by their own countrymen.
If you fought, bled, loved, and lost for your country and still were treated like crap when you came home, would you not be a lil pissed at society? Hell, soldiers who come home now are treated comparably better than the black vets from WWII, and a notable portion of them shoot up their fellow soldiers, innocents and themselves. If you ask me the the black WWII vets took their slights in stride.
WW2 was a LONG TIME AGO, GET OVER IT! Stop using EVERY EXCUSE TO REFUSE TO EDUCATE YOURSELF!
“I think the prejudicial policies and activities of the authorities in the US dissuaded Blacks more than anything.”
And just WHO were those leaders? And what is/was their Party affiliation?
“You’re supposed to love America, but America treats you like crap. And you have no where else to go.”
So, America is the last, best hope, then. According to you there’s nowhere to go. Why is that? Lack of funds? Lack of impetus? I see people *still* – to this day – trying to pack up and leave all those wonderful Liberal/Socialist utopias. Why not stay there if America is so crappy?
“I doubt many of us would be too enthusiastic about being American under those circumstances”
While I am not going to say things are all hunky-dory here in the US, I don’t see too many Americans of Negroid decent leaving for greener pastures. What does that tell you?
I wasn’t talking about today. I was referring to the US circa 1960’s. Nowadays, I don’t think there is any reason to leave the US. Things aren’t perfect, but in most aspects of life I think one can succeed regardless of race.
In the 1960’s and earlier there were plenty of “back to Africa” movements. Some ppl took advantage of them, but most could not. For most ppl it is prohibitive to pick up and move your entire family unit across a city, let alone out of the country. This was the case in the 1960’s as well.
Plus, there were many blacks back then who, like myself today, felt that we should not have to leave our homes to be treated like equals. Those people stayed here on principle and fought for their rights. The argument “why don’t you leave if you don’t like it” is so tired. Did you expect ppl who didn’t like Obama to move to a different country when he was elected? Of course not, because like it or not, its your home. That home connection is just as important to consider when pondering why Black ppl didn’t just up and leave back in the day.
Zdot, great points! What is not commented on is the number of African Americans that go to other countries and feel like they are treated so much better that they never want to live here again. If they didn’t have family and friends here they would never return. I have 2 cousins who have made such determination. I have heard countless stories of this. The thing is without the military connection, most ppl, BLACK OR WHITE don’t want to leave their friends and family to be around a bunch a strangers.
Igor, your attitudes towards African Americans is a prime example of us being treated and thought of as second class citizens.
the problem is, you’re not around the right white people, and you blame ALL whites for what was done. not all whites had a hand in it, and many were not even in this country, and they are being persecuted for it. ive been married to a black man for 15 yrs, we gave each side of our family the right to have their say, and then we told them to shut the hell up or get lost. we live alone without any interference from anyone. Our families love us both equally. A lot of people are so wrapped up in their hatred that a lot of innocent people are being pulled into this madness. problem is, its going to get worse before it gets better as long as the hatred grows, and no one is willing to give in.
I’d say the ‘brainwashing’ by the Caucazoids has had a major effect.
UTTER CRAP!!!
Truly the observations of someone with a bloodline tracing back to the bowels of slavery. Maybe he should write about how his ancestors stole from another country and stole the land on which we now stand. I expect no less from their cowardly pack. Ignorance cares not to do the research or step outside of their own school to see the legions of young African-Americans with an education that would put hers to shame. Devilish kin of the plantation goons. You should be ashamed of yourself.
The most racist people are LIBERALS who divide people into race and class, then exploit that… then the dumb Blacks who were force-fed the hate… i GET YOUR POINT… Blacks are racist for the most part…as the Caucasian becomes the minority, as America becomes diluted… the racial fissure fomented by politicians is unmistakable… the White man is NOT the Black man’s enemy… the POLITICIAN, the community planner, the liberal activist is the AMERICAN’s enemy…
Hear, hear, Herr Doktor – I’m in total accord with all but the last claim, i.e., that Blacks are the most racist people in America today. I would contend that the owners of the sociological and political plantation upon which American Blacks find themselves permanently ensconced might be just a TEENY bit more racist than the Blacks themselves. It seems to me that it takes a far greater depth of calculated racist contempt in order to engineer, and, in the face of Brobdingnagian costs in trillions of dollars, wasted human potential and actual lives, to continue to militate for the disastrous Balkanization the Leftists have brought about since their usurpation of the “civil rights movement” and the hatching of the untold profligacy and fraud of the “Great Society” upon the fabric of American life. In total, a crime on the order of the Stalinist Purges and the Nazi Holocaust.
This is so crazy! Lol. Please tell me that you know that Jim Crow laws and racist white people after WWII is PRIMARILY what kept black people from “assimilating”…PLEASE!
Also, please explain what event or events happened to make all of the white racists (not all white people just the 50% or more of the country that was racist) change their hearts and minds since the 60’s since many of them are still alive?
Well, let’s not forget the part about being enslaved for more than 250 years and getting nothing to start a life when “freed.” LET’S JUST FORGET THAT HAPPENED.
you are absolutely correct….
Andres. You have zero common sense like most liberals. You don’t live in Hawaii or attend Harvard when you are poor. And check Priceline for a plane ticket to Africa. It’s not cheap. You have 0 credibility.
RIP my friend The Doktor. You are missed by many. <3
What I find hilarious about your comment, and everyone elses comment in this thread… is the amount of revisionists history.
You act as if EVERYTHING across racial lines is equal. EVERYTHING. When the truth of the matter is…. it is NOT.
Through nearly all of American History whites (not all…but most) spent CENTURIES dismantling and destroying blacks. During slavery, and after. Nearly any and EVERY time blacks became self sufficient , not unlike Jews.. whites DESTROYED them. Burned their stores, burned their towns to the Ground. Nearly every time. And MOST of them started by the accusation that a black person harmed a white woman…even though in nearly every case the claim was FALSE!
Atlanta race riots from jealous whites in 1902. White politicians in fear that the blacks were becoming to powerful… influentially, and economically… used media, and influence to stoke the flames of hate, by publishing false claims that white women were being attacked and molested by black men. Some 10,000 white men converged on the city rioted, attacking and killing blacks they could get their hands on. Town was never the same.
Rosewood. in 1923. Highly self sufficient town….. again…. with the accusation white woman were being molested by black men… white people whipped themselves into a frenzy… rioted and killed any black person they could get their hands on, and burned the entire town to the GROUND. The town was abandoned by blacks after that.
Tulsa Race riots that destroyed Black Wall street in 1921. A black town so self sufficient that it would often take a full year for currency from within to leave the town. A Large group of white people tried to lynch a black man. The people rose up and protected him. In anger the whites rioted, and murdered, and burned the town. They even BOMBED it from the air. All because the man they were trying to lynch was again accused of assaulting a white woman. The whole town… burned to the ground. All that wealth… GONE. Town NEVER recovered.
Chicago race riots of 1919…. during the war many blacks left the south and migrated north. established neighborhoods, took jobs… and the whites did not like this. Particularly all the white service men who returned home from the war to find their factory jobs taken by blacks. Riots broke out, blacks and whites died… and in the riots the black neighborhoods were hit the hardest. 1,000 black homes (HOMES… not apts… homes OWNED by black people) were burned to the ground. And never recovered.
East St. Louis 1917… blacks flocked to this city. And White people became fearful of competition from blacks for jobs and economic prosperity. AGAIN… (notice the theme here)…. the tipping point for whites was the RUMOR that white women, and black mean began to socialize with each other… taking our jobs is one thing.. but keep your hands off our white women eh?? For MONTHS whites attacked blacks… rioted, torched homes… randomly shooting into black homes on a regular basis at night. Terrorizing people. National guard had to be called him several times. The final nail in the coffin was when whites did a drive by on homes one night, and the blacks had had enough, and organized… and in the same night another car came. And they shot at it, killing the people inside. But this wasnt the attackers. It was the police coming to try and calm things down. This sparked another riot that was the worst of them all. 6,000+ blacks became homeless after losing their homes to fires.
Knoxville Tenn… 1919… AGAIN on the accusation that a black man harmed a white woman. Whites rioted AGAIN. 5,000 whites stormed the jail looking for the suspect. They Freed the OTHER prisoners who were white….. many in jail for MURDER, but it did not matter to them. A black man hurt a white woman!!!! After the jail they attacked the black business district. Looting, burning… killing. So bad the blacks eventually fled.
The list goes on… throughout the 1900s… and repeated itself during the civil rights movement that was a MERE 50 years ago. Lynching after lynching. Bombing after bombing. The generation of people who went through that are STILL alive.
Pick up a damned history book if all these things are news to you.
And to add to this… the systematic racism that also occurred, that kept blacks from prosperous jobs, buying homes in prosperous neighborhoods.
Combine this with the POISON that is welfare. Before the 70s Many blacks owned and operated businesses, and education was important to them. Then all of a sudden welfare became super easy to get on, when previously it was hard to get.
Combine all the above as well with terribly funded schools in the inner cities and what do you get? An ENTIRE generation of poor, uneducated blacks. Who are the people this “teacher” is talking about??? The CHILDREN of these very people!!
I dont deny that blacks today are often their own worst enemy.
However it pisses me off to no end when other self righteous white people storm in after the fact, use selective amnesia, and PRETEND they blacks got there on their own. And that their Grandparents, and great grandparents had NO hand in ANY of it. Particularly at the Faux anger at “ZOMG HOW CAN THIS BE??? UGHH BLACK PEOPLE!”. It is the equivalent of taking a person, tying them up in your basement for 50 years, having a change of heart… and wanting to be more liberal, releasing said person… and then getting mad at them because they cant run a race as well as everyone else. You act like this is ANCIENT history… when 1-2 generations is nothing but a drop in the BUCKET of time.
Every time blacks rose up to be prosperous in THIS (1900’s) century… they were decimated by the people with POWER. White people. Who wanted to “keep those black people in their place). I get it…. youre sick of hearing about history. Youre sick of hearing about what your parents and grandparents. WELL BUCK UP AND DEAL WITH IT!!! Your parents/Grandparents MADE THIS BED.. now you have to lay in it. You got what you wanted…many blacks are exactly where many of you wanted them to be. So dont come onto a forum and start BITCHING about the thing you helped create.
You wanna know why the black kids this teacher talks about act, and talk the way they talk??? Look no further then Media. Do you think it is mere coincidence that so many black people want to be athletes, singers, dancers, and rappers??? For how many DECADES did you hardly see blacks on television is over positive roles? Comic books? Movies? Magazines? Fellow white people enjoy the white PRIVILEGE of being able to look at 99% of all media and seeing nothing but themselves. In all manner of roles. None more prominent then the HERO. Until RECENTLY blacks featured in media all seemed to talk and act a certain way. Like Thugs, bad boys, uneducated, criminals, drug dealers, pimps. These black chidren grew up with no role models to look up to that looked like THEM, while white pople did NOT have that problem. EVER! You may say “why shoudl the race of the hero matter”… but coming from you WHO DOES NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO NOT HAVE COUNTLESS OPTIONS OF ROLE MODELS YOUR RACE.. that objection is MOOT. You cant require the blacks to not care about race in media, when YOU DO NOT HAVE TO WORRY. White is the “standard”. Everyone else is the exception.
THIS is why so many black youth talk, and act the same… because that is often the ONLY IMAGE THEY ARE SUBJECTED TO. THAT is why so many blacks want to be athletes, rappers, and singers, and entertainers. THOSE are the black people that white people worship.
Black boys chase white girls because white is the STANDARD of beauty. Black are made to feel that THEIR natural looks and features are ugly and unwanted on a daily basis in media. Let me guess?? You Thought black women were born wanting to have lots of weaves and straightening their hair? Let me guess… you have no idea what a “brown paper bag test” is? Where blacks are made to hate their features so much that it caused infighting where lighter skinned blacks look down on dark ones? Where in american media LIGHT SKINNED blacks with more Caucasian features are celebrated as beautiful… and get many leading roles. While DARK skinned blacks, with natural hair get to be cast as ugly maids in “The Help”.
You have NO idea the self esteem issues these black kids face simply because of the color of their skin. Sure white people also have self esteem issues… but it is NOT because they are WHITE. Any other self esteem problem a white person faces… people of other colors face too. Self esteem for being ugly? everyone experiences that. Self esteem for being fat? Everyone faces that. But white people do NOT face self esteem issues for being WHITE, or having white FEATURES. The white race is the standard!!!!
And blacks in media do NOT get to see themselves in diverse roles like WHITE PEOPLE. They are type cast. It is a Privilege you are in NO danger of losing anytime soon. THAT is why George Lucas had to spend his OWN money to get a simply ACTION movie that has a black cast, made. NO studio would back him. WHY??? Because black people are type cast in media. To THEM it is unrealistic to have an action movie with a large black cast. And they-and I QUOTE- “Dont know how to market a movie like that around the world”. So Black people are stuck with sitcoms, and romantic comedies where everyone is sassy, talks street, struggles to survive, has low educations, and need to dance to scrape enough money to save their youth center. White people do NOT have the image problem.
THIS is why those kids act that way. They are LOUD, UNEDUCATED, and VIOLENT because THAT IS THE ONLY IMAGE THEY ARE SOLD. There are FAR more black people on TV that are LOUD, UNEDUCATED, and VIOLENT then the other. THAT is why when black kids come along who ARE educated, NOT violent, and NOT loud… they are acussed of being WHITE by the black people, and the white people are SHOCKED they dont act like those “other blacks” with code words like “Oh my… youre so articulate!!!”. Or even flat out tell them “They arent that black”. I have seen these things with my own EYES. And that is why the Girl in this teachers story said she was unable to do “that” (the assignment)… she was black…
The war on drugs in another example… all the anti drug crack down almost solely targeted at the inner cities, when white people in the suburbs sell, and use drugs JUST as much as the blacks. The idea that is is BLACK people getting everyone hooked on drugs is preposterous. There is not a single credible statistic out there that suggested more black and poor people use drugs far more then white people with money.
You dont get to go somewhere after the fact and moan about things you know nothing about. You dont get to condemn ONE group of people for being uneducated and violent when YOUR people were just as uneducated and EXTREMELY violent in the near past. Just because one group used violence to gain favor to the point they dont HAVE to use it as much as they used to, does not make them BETTER then the people being violent NOW who were unable to build the empires THEY did. Or did you suddenly forget about mob violence and open machine gun fight in the streets with white people????? Those men are all either DEAD, In jail, or RICH!!! Of course they woudlnt still be in the streets fighting. They are now Business owners, Police chiefs, and Mayors!
As far as the BS about Mitt Romney and Mormons in this thread…The fact of the matter is… until about 1978 Mormons preached that BLACKS were CURSED people. INFERIOR. To be their servants in heaven. That was a mere 35 damn years ago. Blacks were not allowed in their temples, and most certainly not allowed to be priests. The reason Mormons STILL outreached to blacks is because they felt that they were able to save the SOULS of these cursed people if the accepted the Mormon faith. And YES many self loathing blacks bought into this BS and STILL joined the Mormon church. JUST because some black people had low self esteem and joined an organization that preached they were inferior until 1978 does NOT mean it did not happen. in FACT.. the vast majority of blacks who say they are Mormon are “Inactive”… meaning they devote and worship on their own, and do not attend the big churches. When asked why, many state they are felt to feel unwelcome by many. And they even went as far as ask the Mormon church to be able to set up a black run church as well, and the Mormon leaders DENY this request. The Mormon church knew it could not hold such a stance in the every progressive world, and all of a sudden “God” came down and told their leaders it was wrong to discriminate Mormon church has spent the last 35 years trying to repair its image. More so since 1996.
The Mormon church is playing revisionist history, now LYING and denying they taught such things…all to build their image.They even go as far as teaching this to the young Mormons. That that was just some Mormon fanatics… That the Cain doctrine never existed. This is a LIE. THIS is why people call Mormons racist. Because lots of people are not stupid, and people DO NOT CHANGE OVER NIGHT just because somewhere some one flicked a switch of tolerance. Mormons do not like to talk about the churches OFFICIAL stance before 1978.. because it is an UGLY image to acknowledge.
I do not know if ROMNEY is a racist person. But what I do know, is that he is a LIAR, and a flip flopper willing to change his stance on a regular basis for votes. And embraces racist coded rhetoric to appeal to the racist members in the republican party. (Southern Strategy). What I DO know… is what his Church USED to teach up till 35 years ago. I am Old enough to KNOW what they taught.
It takes GENERATIONS for people to change.
And sure some Mormons are not racist… But the idea that ALL Mormons changed over night in just 35 years is ridiculous. And its extremely annoying when a white person says “When I was in Utah I didnt see any racism”… YOURE WHITE!!!!! Why would you experience subtle racism towards blacks when youre 99% around only white people?? Jesus….
Its like most of the people in this thread are the DUMBEST people I have ever encountered. A group in power does any and EVERYTHING possible to DESTROY another group for CENTURIES… tried their best to wipe out any advances they made in 1 century….. and you expect ALL that damn damage to be UNDONE in one generation???? I know many of you try to say Ancient history.. but its not… The people who lived through Civil rights are STILL alive. People being locked out of influential jobs, Union lock outs, war on drugs, systematic racism… these were/are things that exist in the past 50 YEARS they exist NOW… Just because you wake up one day and play revisionist history, and youre tired of hearing about them, doesnt make them any less real. These are real problems that occurred, and what you see NOW is the damn result!
You wanna know why Blacks werent able to assimilate into American Society like the Jews, The Italians, and Irish?? BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN. My Factual examples at the start of this post is proof!! Every SINGLE time they tried in the past Century alone, they were killed and DESTROYED at every single attempt. They were BLACK!!!! Jews were able to assimilate because they were white… Irish were able to assimilate because they were white…. Italians were able to assimilate because they were WHITE!!! And they ALL were capable of turning their hatred for each other onto Blacks. You cannot always look at every single white person, and instantly tell if they are Irish, Italian, Jew or American…. But you can spot a BLACK person 100 miles away. Congratulations in your ignorance!
SURE the Blacks can help perpetuate their own stereotypes….But what YOU are talking about, are the CHILDREN or the very people who were BROKEN!!! In what fantasy world has a group of people been so decimated SO recently, and flipped around and prospered in a mere 50 years after gaining full equal rights on paper??
In what Fantasy world does MILLIONS of people collectively wake up one day and are COMPLETELY different from what they were yesterday?? This is reference to the people who when talking about the true racist they reference the Dixiecrats… PRETENDING the Southern strategy wasnt real… pretending Nixon people are not on RECORD referencing it. PRETENDING the republican party didnt court the angry whites to their side. PRETENDING that the Democratic party you are so stupidly referencing is the SAME party as it is today. Saying Democrats want everyone on welfare… when the FACT of the matter is.. the people MOST on welfare are in Republican run states… the HIGHEST concentration of poverty in the entire country are in Republican held states. The states that contribute the LEAST are republican lead states. The States that get the MOST federal aid are Republican states!!!! They take IN more dollars then they produce!!!
It shows me how so many of you have ZERO concept of history, and just spout out NONSENSE without understanding ANY of it. You spout out statistics without understanding WHAT made those statistics possible.
You condemn the blacks for having hatred for what was DONE to them , their parents, and their grandparents. But yet you come in this thread and show nothing but hatred and ignorance. You claim racist is over and dead.. while being a gigantic racist spreading misinformation to put the argument in your (white) favor. You dont need a Sheet and a burning cross to be a racist.
The KKK still exists… and STILL have power.. the difference is… those former KKK members HAD to change tactics… they are no longer on your lawn burning crosses, or organizing neighborhood lynchings. They are Drs, Lawyers, Politicians, Judges, CEOs, Bosses, Supervisors, Execs, Police, Fire Fighters, Public servants, And Union Bosses. If you think they all just up and died and all had changes of heart you are an idiot. The KKK members that are Irrelevant are the ones STILL burning crosses, and passing out pamphlets in neighborhoods in the night. These are the most ignorant, and uneducated ones. If one lacks the intelligence to grasp the concept of being subtle, that is no one our fault.
You condemn Blacks for being just as out of control and violent an ignorant as white people have been JUST because you have the fortunate luck of being born in an era of white prosperity built on a system where the deck was stacked in your favor for CENTURIES! Or do you have so much hatred within you that you have to use revisionist history to FORGET ALL the Violence whites have done in the world, in AMERICA painting the streets RED with blood in gang warfare, and mob violence, and riots.
The difference is.. when Whites start doing violence the National Guard is called in, The FBI is brought in, laws are changed, there are huge crack downs. When blacks have violence, no one cares. After all theyre just killing each other right?? Look at Chicago…
I am not some super Liberal person… I am progressive… I think many liberal policies hurt the country. But I also think many conservatives ALSO hurt the country. I think Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson are idiots and panderers. They are incredibly irrelevant, but by the comments page I can tell how ignorant people are, because those two names seem to be all you can evoke.
I think many blacks today are content to live in ignorance… HOWEVER…. at the very LEAST.. I can understand HOW they got where they are. And it was NOT on their own. Not EVERYONE has the money and resources to make a come back from utter destruction. ie: Black Wall Street. The Govt never extended aid to FIX that. Large amount of black wealth and prosperity wiped out in one night. Towns in America have suffered far LESS and still were not able to recover either.
All these things I mentioned (All things WHITES do NOT have to deal with) contributed to a generation of poor and uneducated blacks. What you have now is the NEXT generation.. who are the CHILDREN of those people. What you have today are black kids with self image problems… ALSO something whites NEVER have to worry about for being white. THAT is the reason so many of them all talk, act, and behave the same. Blacks girls are loud and obnoxious because they are CONSTANTLY portrayed that way in media… they are CONSTANTLY portrayed as violent, loud, angry…. kids watch it, it becomes “cool” to them, and they imitate it. I dont believe in excess censorship….and plenty of white characters in media are terrible role models… HOWEVER blacks have a VAST shortage of positive roll models that look like THEM in media. WHITE people do not have this problems. Their Heroes that look like them ate Drs, Lawyers, Scientists, artists, engineers, … ANYTHING…. black people have Athletes, Rappers, and Musicians to look up to the most. They have a MUCH smaller representations in media. Then you are SHOCKED that they start behaving as such.
And as far as this “teacher” is concerned… it sounds like the rantings of an incredibly ignorant person. You have a very LIMITED experience with the poorest most ignorant black people in one place, and then you paint the entire race with that messed up brush?
I will state right now.. MY experience is not hers. I grew up in New England… and in nowhere in new England is it like THIS. Not even in the MOSt poor black neighborhood. The only place ive seen THESE things were on MOVIES. Usually accompanied by a super cliche Hollywood story about a strong white woman who was ready to teach these super ignorant black people how to be smart. Like “Dangerous Minds” and “Freedom Writers”. ie: Another Heroic white person.
This thread makes me ashamed of white people. You point out the ignorance of others while drowning in your own.
Calling any one ethnic group, more racist then another in a world of division and separation is like trying to point out one ANT among millions. This race thing is a world issue that has the powers that be,(who ever that may be) running all of us like pawns on a chess board. Whether your statement is true or not. It is not the issue. No disrespect, just a fact. love and peace.
Completely agree with TheDoktor. Blacks were assimilating, culturally until the Great Society, and MultiCulturalism, prevented them from moving forward. No one at IBM is going to give Kunta Kinteh a job, unless he or she looks to be in sync with the primary culture. America was best when it was a melting pot, but now it’s going to pot, thanks to Democrats and their irksome pandering to the lowest common denominator.
I was married to a black woman, who was a teacher in a middle school that was predominately black. She came home one day, totally dejected and shocked. I asked her what was wrong. She said that she had now seen everything. There was a circle of kids cheering on something in the middle. She thought it was a fight. When they broke through the circle she saw two kids having sex. In the middle of a hallway… in middle school… in 1979… in PA Amish country of Lancaster. She no longer teaches.
Lord of the Flies….
I happened across a black radio program and the guest was discussing how having black students in schools with white teachers was pointless as black students were unable to relate to a white teacher. I thought the idea was ridiculous but after reading this, I can understand his point now. Blacks need better role models in schools especially when they are growing up without a father figure in the home. Unfortunately, teachers unions and the DOE are so far removed from the classroom particularly those in inner cities, nothing will ever change.
is that anyones problem but theres? no why should teachers,or sociaty have to raise other peoples kids if there that stupid stop breeding then! and dumb white people like you pushing white guilt/anti white bs are a huge prob in sociaty,and need delt with.
Wow, make spell check your friend and maybe go back for a GED.
I got news for you Ken, it is your problem because they aren’t’ going to stop breeding and it is at the tipping point now of more collecting freebies from the govt than those paying in. They totally demolish their neighborhoods and then move into yours. There was no white guilt in the comment by RJM. It was an observation of the truth, if they don’t have a strong black male in the classroom to guide them they have zero respect for the person standing up there trying to teach them how to make it in this world. When they can’t make it…you get to raise them through your tax dollars long past the time they should have been self sufficient adults. Sometimes from cradle to grave.
Wonderful article…. I remember seeing the faintest beginning glimmer of this nonsensical behavior when I graduated in 1980 and then went to the army. Now it seems rampant and somehow the nation “honors” their dysfunctional culture ! Ask them about Apollo , our greatest triumph and moment of togetherness or what took place on June 6th , 1944 and why the world does NOT speak german. You will get blank stares of a deer. I have met many smart civilized blacks and yet it seems an exception as it is not a worthy trait within their own culture. Seems that using smarts for crime or to “beat the system” is the better way, if it is easier it must be better as I have heard them say. Sad , I ran this article by a few teacher friends here in Virginia. To a person, and only off the record, they all agreed…. go to private school …. get out… run and take your child. Live in a small house but not a black school , anything but that. Sad. The country is sad and yet our future leaders. Glad I am retiring and taking my money far away from this place.
They may be very smart but all most every one of them think as democrats trained them to !
do you only talk to black kids? because white children these days are just as bad, its just that theres more of you in the west so the numbers look more favourable. In this country, a country that suffered so greatly at the hands of the Nazis, most kids only know about the holocaust they dont know about any of the actually important facts.
Being married to a black man, i can tell you from my side. i am not married to the typical thug, but an average black man. he had proper English, he does not speak like the black mentioned in the article. On the other hand, he was raised Gicchy in South Carolina, and his grandmother still speaks a form of Pigeon. I asked my husband why he doesn’t speak Gicchy like his mother, he said because it sounds stupid, and he didn’t feel the need to talk like that. so to say the least, not all blacks are a product of their environment, and guess i should feel especially grateful that my sweetheart of 15 yrs is intelligent rather than ghetto. his family doesn’t run around calling each other Nigga’s, and not once in 15 yrs has 1 member of the family called me a cracker. Being civilized doesn’t take a degree in rocket science.
Which points out that the problem is with the culture, not the color.
I have to agree 100% with this. Those that work to get out of the culture in places like Detroit, Oakland, South Central Los Angeles tend to work hard to get away from the stereotype, those that don’t remain part of the Culture and continue to perpetuate it.
%100 culture believe me, in britain the hip hop culture is dying, it lives in the form of uk rap which is only really popular in the ‘hood’, namely the council estates and the areas that have died due to gentrification. I say hang, Weezy, Yeezy, Wacka Flocka and almost %100 of rappers that not from New York, i haven’t heard an intelligent lyric in hip hop for almost ten yrs now
Thank you for saying this. I get tired of people generalising about other people.
GFYS you have as much right to comment on this story as I do running
general motors …….effing canadians.
I have family in America. Does that give me the right to comment? And no, I will not go f myself.
It is the owner of this blog who grants anyone the write to comment here, and it is the owner of this blog who takes these rights away. Are you the owner of this blog, poopybutt?
whats funny is im loud, outspoken, noisy, and disruptive. my husband is shy, sweet, quiet, and would give you the shirt off his back. i think its such a shame when people are called out for their color, and not for the loving humans they are.
We call that type of Black Man a UNICORN.
Why because we always hear about them but never have seen
one in the flesh.
Not intended as an insult just being honest.
Um, you are aware that the man who owns and operates this website is a successful journalist and syndicated columnist, with an impressive career in state politics, right?
They weren’t being insulting, a good black man is hard to find. many of them have been shunned by their own community for not being “black” enough, or being a “disgrace to the race” for not hating white people, or being seen as a sellout for wanting more for their families. you wont find them in the black hoods or bottle clubs, down on the corner or at the jailhouse, you find them in the better communities minding their own business.
True but unfortunately a decent hard working honest black man
must divorce himself from a bankrupt culture.
Sad but true. If you work hard and want an education and speak good English, you’re trying to be White.
Impressive what in his own mind ?
You are claiming that the orinal commentor’s “an average black man, [who speaks] proper English” and who’s family “doesn’t run around calling each other Nigga” is something that you have head about but never seen.
You make this claim on a website owned and operated by Bob Parks… a respected journalist/columnist, former Vice-Chairman of the Massachusetts Republican Assembly, and a Massachusetts state representative.
Which isn’t exactly going to get him his own chapter in the history books of 2113 AD, but its a bit more impressive than a life spent trolling the internet to insult all educated black men by calling them mythical.
I dont consider what you said as an insult, because you are being honest from your viewpoint. im one of the few who dont punish honesty. There are more good black men out there then they get credit for. its the few rotten apples, that make the whole bushel look bad.
EXACTLY. Which proves the point that this negative mentality is fostered by society, not families. This is why the dems want to dissolve the family unit in any way possible. I tell my kids to find friends who treat them well, regardless of color, religion, or gender. We see the individual, not the “group”.
Sounds like “The arsehole” rule; never have anything to do with an arsehole
If I may ask, what is Gicchy?
More commonly spelled Geechie, it is a dialect used by blacks in the Low Country of South Carolina from Georgetown through Charleston down to Beauford. Here are examples from someone on YouTube who calls herself Geechie Girl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsCJn3MHs8c&list=TLsmYbaKgaP3U
I watched the video. Heard the woman talking. I had no idea what she was saying until she translated it into English!
Who’s the incorrigible “1” that has a problem with this?
you would be surprised how many times i have had to fight for my life, as well as my husband has. but that the thing about love and marriage. you’re either in it to win it with your life, or you need to walk away from it. so far, i’ve kicked azz.
For what it’s worth, I’ve said before that perhaps blacks were better off under slavery. Rather than being slaves of the government check, they had a master who put them to work each day. What else is any different? They didn’t learn then, they don’t want to learn now. They lived in the master’s housing then, they live in public housing now. They depended on the master to have food then, they depend on someone else for food now.
The difference? Back then the master would whip them or whatever else when they got out of line. Today’s blacks have no one to beat any sense into them. Their parents aren’t doing it. Going to jail when they get caught isn’t doing it. Some of these people will never get it any other way.
I am NO ONE’S SLAVE. I would rather die than to be a slave, are you kidding me? Glad that my last American relative is leaving. No one is better off being a slave. Exactly what kind of website is this?
For those of you who think black people were better off being slaves — think on this…our government through their social engineering has managed in the space of 40 years to mentally cripple an entire segment of our society. For all the supposed benefits offered by Affirmative Action etc. – access to colleges etc, why are black families disintegrating before our eyes. It’s not because blacks are less intelligent, or less worthy…It’s because the system was built to entice and reward people who act irresponsibly…and so here we are today — children having children and bringing them into a Lord of the Flies-like environment. White families are now also at risk — how many white teenage kids are hooking up with drugs, premature sex/babies out of wedlock…and in this economy they have no job prospects etc. No hope, no future, don’t help yourself through hard work, don’t do the right thing and behave responsibly — just let the government hand you a check. So here we are seeing a lot of white families follow the Pied Piper of a supposed free ride right down the same tangled path of poverty…only the ride isn’t free…it costs us our future and our children’s future..and the government has greased the slide so well – I don’t think it will take 40 years to see the white middle class reduced as well.
Nothing serves the government so well as to have people who are dependent upon them for their very survival.
then get off the government dole and the democrat plantation. I’m a teacher. I see this EVERY DAY. They have been brainwashed to think (1) they are “owed” (2) they are part of a “group” not an individual, and (3) someone else is to blame…for EVERYTHING. Talk to them one on one, give them the respect they earn through working hard in class, and eventually they tell me what they…as individuals…think and feel. It takes a while. Takes trust building…I am a white middle aged woman from the ‘burbs after all…but they don’t know my story. Once they do, they are much more receptive to conversation. It’s unreal, though, the level of hate and disdain for EVERYONE else…for no apparent reason other than they’ve been brought up to think that way.
This is what they have been taught. They learned not to trust the authority because historically authority screws them at every turn. So they have the mindset of ” if they gonna treat me like this, I’m going to get everything I can from them”. And they have good reason to feel that way. Last 400 years, anybody?
And Libs maybe perpetuating a failing model, but please don’t taut Cons as good and pure. Many of the at most hurtful, degrading, and damaging words and actions have come from the mouth of a Conservative. Cons are on the whole less accepting of those that are different, known as the party of bigots.
You can be right all you want, but if ppl don’t like you no one will listen. Sound like high school, i know. But its the truth. Learn how to speak to those that are different from you. Conservative ideals aren’t all bad. But the ppl you have trying to tell ppl about them suck.
Too late now, but it would have been better for whites and blacks alike had blacks never taken off the shores of Africa. They never built ships, they never explored farther afield than their own bomas, they never showed the vaguest interest in settling anywhere other than their own mud huts on their own grassy plains. Taking them out of that environment is where it all went wrong. Their own people sold them out – yet they will never get compensation from their own people so who do they go to with their hands out? That’s right, whitey.
Comments like this show your own ignorance. You clearly have no understanding of African Culture or European Cultures for that matter.
Why did Europeans set sail in the first place? Because of a lack of resources. During the times of the explorers, Africa was a lush and rich land. If Europe wasn’t as densely populated, resource poor, and harsh (weather and terrain) then I doubt that anyone would have ever ventured from its shores. The only time anyone ever leaves their home is for resources, space, and/or personal recognition. Africa had resources and plenty of space. And African culture de-emphasizes the individual glory in favor of group success.
Furthermore, Africa was home to some of the earliest and richest empires the world has ever seen. The poor continent we now know once made Europeans look like savages. Your talk about mud huts is greatly misguided.
And the reason the African Continent is in the position it is in now is because of European Colonization. This continent was raped by damn near every country in the European Subcontinent and is now experiencing the same treatment from private industry as well. I agree that it will have to take Africans to pull themselves out of the hole they are in, but do not dare sit on your high horse and point fingers like Africans got themselves into this situation without the help and guidance of Europeans and Americans. I mean damn, it’s history. Look it up.
“And African culture de-emphasizes the individual glory in favor of group success.”
*snort*
Thus the endless parade of strong-men, chiefs, and tyrants.
“Furthermore, Africa was home to some of the earliest and richest empires the world has ever seen.”
Um, no. Egypt and Carthage were Semitic/Mediterranean/what-ever-you-want-to-call-them, and Ethiopia was a relative late-comer.
“And the reason the African Continent is in the position it is in now is because of European Colonization.”
The natives, in your view, have no self-determination? No ability to control themselves? They’re purely reacting to what the White Devils do?
read ‘how europe undermined africa’ and watch “changing colours”, those two factual studies show just how wrong your thinking is.
Are you serious? i think what you mean is that you want a slave, or perhaps you just want to beat some sense into black people? Slavery is an age old institution , practised by every civilisation until modern times. However chattel slavery is the form most black people were subjected to and it was a terrible crime against their humanity namely because it removed it. The clue is in the word negro, which doesn’t mean black person it means black object
AND WE’RE VILIFIED IF WE “LABEL” THEM NIGGERS
Well, they call themselves that. We’re just repeating their own label!
They have a despicable habit of labelling us “cracker” or whitey which is the nicer term for those of them who choose to be ignorant. I have a few friends who chose not to be and I would backhand anyone who ever utters such low backwards trash to them the same way my mother would if anyone ever spoke such derogatory vulgarities. I don’t approve of racism in any form, this article spoke as an opinion piece, but in no way come across as derogatory. If you have an opinion and must state it, how about you state it elegantly instead of crassly, otherwise you are giving cannon fodder to anyone who calls white people racist.
This has been apparently spreading like wildfire. It’s in the Jackson, TN CL rant and raves. I think it is awesome!
This is why i hate. I was a white kid surrounded by blacks in California, and it is the truth when there is more than one it is like being at the zoo watching monkeys. It is why i moved my family to a small town in Oregon. This is they’re own fault as a black race why the are so ignorant and lazy. This story had nothing to do with hate it was the truth about a lazy race from a teacher who had to deal with ignorance.
Same here. I live in the city that brought about forced busing, Swann vs the Board of Education of Charlotte Mecklemburg, I was bused from my white middle class neighborhood (I am a white female) to the black part of town which was the west side of Charlotte for junior high school (this was the early 1980’s). All my bullies were blacks and the principal was black also and let them get away with it. I was ALWAYS punished for TRYING to stand up for myself that I was eventually placed in an alternative school where I was the only white female in a black male classroom. I would try anything and everything to get excluded to get out of there and the black principal here knew that this is what I wanted and would NOT do it. I remember BEGGING my mom to home school me. They considered shutting it down in 2010 but it got a stay of execution apparently.
So, you think it was a party for those blacks forced into mostly white schools? Its terrible what happened to you, but that is not how all of us behave. Ignorance is indeed color-blind.
They were NEVER forced to segregate white schools. Apparently you have never learned the saying, “Guilt by association.” Typical for an Obama worshiper to call someone who wants nothing more than to protect themselves from harm, ignorant. Typical liberal behavior for sure. Yes, I am a proud crazy ass cracker bitch of the Tea Party.
Mspatriot, I am sorry this happened to you. However, let attempt to explain why this is not a reason to condemn the entire race. If you went to a white school and were bullied by white kids, would you hate all white ppl? This happens every day. White kids get bullied by other white kids, but they don’t then make the decision to hate all white ppl. The reason they don’t is they are a member of the very group that is bullying them. So, since there is no way to separate themselves from the group that is hurting them, there is no way to GENERALIZE. They have to be specific with their hate. But, because there is an easy way to generalize when it is a different race, culture, religion, or physical attribute that stands out. This is psychological fact, not opinion. I am not naïve enough to believe you will change how you feel. But, at least try to understand that sweeping generalizations and prejudices about an entire group are a construct of illogical emotion based on the actions of a few. They are not factual or logical decisions.
Old Abe had already generalized them long before I did. Learn real history. He wanted to ship them back to Africa.
We are not talking about Abe. We are talking about YOUR experience. You generalize. And you doing so is not logical. That’s all I am saying.
What is generalizing about my post? Nothing is. It was the way it was in jr high for me. It was on the BLACK side of town. No self respect white person would go to that side of Charlotte UNLESS they were FORCED to do so. That is NOT generalizing. That is self preservation.
He thinks he’s Spock now.
And you don’t generalize??? Lol, yeah right!
No, I don’t generalize. I am OBJECTIVE on everything I think and believe. And if it turns out that facts are contrary to what I think or believe, I CHANGE IT. That is how a person SEEKS TRUTH. Everything else is emotional, uninformed, and narrow-minded beliefs based on half truths, and outright lies.
Dear msamericanpatriot,
It’s obvious that your education was affected by the bad school and it is a shame your parents didn’t homeschool you. If you were homeschooled you might learn real American history. This idea that Abraham Lincoln wanted to ship blacks back to Africa is, to put it nicely, a load of crap. If you are going to call yourself a patriot, then be one. Be a patriot that knows all about her country, the good and the bad. You can’t really love something you don’t know. Our country wasn’t/isn’t perfect but it is still the best idea on the planet. But if you are ignorant about world history you can’t really believe that.
And BTW, don’t believe this mess that bigotry is taught in the home. It is taught in the schools. The article posted is a great example of this. It is not accident that schools are chaotic and inefficient. It is by design and teachers like the author of this article aren’t victims, they are part of the problem.
http://www.history.com/news/5-things-you-may-not-know-about-lincoln-slavery-and-emancipation
History Channel fact checks. That article backs up what I said.
http://www.history.com/news/5-things-you-may-not-know-about-lincoln-slavery-and-emancipation
eNeecie – Great. And typical. Shoot the messenger if you do not like the message. Idiot.
This article is about education…. would be please explain why very many blacks refuse to get an education ? My mother-in-law taught high school english for over 50 years– in a school of 60% black, 38% hispanic and 2% white and asian. … She has seen it all… was teaching in Atlanta during the riots in the 1960’s… again she has seen it all. She retired simply because she got tire of fighting the black kids… she said they are not afraid of anyone or anything and simply don’t care. They want to be ignorant and they have such a “you
owe” attitude. They are disrespectful to anyone in authority, they are lazy, just want that government handout… She finally got fed up and retired. So explain to everyone why blacks still can’t read or write, our education system has bent over backwards for the black students to the point where we are dumbing down everyone else.I have done extensive research on our education system– it’s a dumbing down system, our students are getting less and less education. This is about race in a sense, blacks still at the bottom, even hispanics score better, even though most have only been in this country a few years. Please explain why blacks still are falling behind ? To me, life is all about choices, we all have choices to make. Blacks choose the easy way…. be lazy and let the government give up money. Blacks choose to be poor, they choose to live in generational poverty. Blacks are given more opportunities in education and training than any other race, but they choose the lazy way of life.
Trip, how many black people live in poverty and choose to be poor??
A lot are poor because they are holding their hands out for the taxpayer funded entitlements. (and I am not just referring to blacks) instead of using their hands to work for a living. If they would get an education , they could get better paying jobs and get out of poverty. My husband works hard as a firefighter/paramedic, he saves lives and property, he serves his community. and has worked 2 and 3 jobs to supplement his income – we live pay check to pay check – we don’t have fancy house, or fancy cars (our truck is 19 years old) Why am telling this, is simple. I am tired of the poor complaining about “poor me”
We have not asked for or do we want any government handouts- the cost is to high. They are taking food off my table, clothes off our backs, we haven’t had TV in over 10 years… while I see the entitlement crowd buying better food than I can afford, driving better cars, and have fancy cell ;phones,cable /dish TV, etc.. so why should my taxes be used for things that I myself can’t have.
Black have allowed themselves to become slaves, just like their ancestors of over 150 years ago… their just slaves of the democrat (aka socialist) party.
SO again, being poor is a choice, one can work hard and earn your way out of poverty and choosing to get a education is a good start.
You seem to be suggesting that blacks aren’t smart enough to get out of poverty. Blacks can be just as smart as anyone else , they just have to choose to educate themselves. Life is all about choices….. plain and simple.
Yes! You are right and don’t you let ANYONE call you a racist for SPEAKING THE TRUTH!
As a child who was born and raised in ND then attended my Junior year of high school in Oakland, back in the early 60’s. It was unbelievable how the blacks treated the white kids, their teachers and nobody seem to notice. The boys would stand in the back of the class room and tell stories and jokes and there were few teachers who would do anything about it. Complete ‘shock’ on my part, because I was taught to honor my parents, respect others’ person and property, to speak when spoken to, and obey authorities. Similar situation when I joined the Army only not quite as noisy.
Are you serious. Jim Crow was still apart of most Americans consciousness in the 60’s. Black ppl were still be hung for walking down the street. Get out of here..smh
Perhaps in the East & South, but not in California. You may need your diapers changed. The Democrats were the ones who have and still hold the Blacks in slavery, so don’t knock heads where you don’t know all the answers.
Who is keeping the middle class enslaved?
“Who is keeping the middle class enslaved?”
The people who keep demanding more and more of our labor be paid to them in tribute.
Democrats.
Jim Crow did not exist in Oakland. Are you trying to justify their behavior on the grounds that Jim Crow existed thousands of miles away from Oakland?
Stupidity knows no color. Ignorance has nothing to do with race. You and the lady who wrote the article prove that point.
No, Andre, you are correct in that skin color does not determine intelligence. BUT!! (“But Monkey” time!) “Ignorance can be fixed, stupid is forever!”
CULTURE goes far to having the most influence on your *actions*. it’s training or inculcation that influences your behavior. And if you aren’t smart enough, observant enough, get-up-and-go enough to drag yourself out of a bad situation, then don’t complain about being downtrodden. Lots of Blacks and other Minorities have silently pulled themselves up out of the cesspool of today’s Black culture.
I see no desire among the kids of today to pull themselves out. It’s a sure thing that Gubmint isn’t going to do it until we make people uncomfortable in their poverty and ignorance. Until then, the Black culture will slouch towards Gomorrah and drag everybody else with them. Such is the way of evil.
If you call that response intelligent then , I agree your stupidity is forever. It is forever because you don’t care about facts. You have formed an opinion based on rhetoric, propaganda, and indoctrination. I can’t really say it is you fault. Some people are not born with the ability to think critically. But, if you really want to know the truth, then we can have a civil conversation with facts, logic, and wisdom. But, somehow I think you will decline this with the typical right-wing rhetoric. Hopefully I will be wrong.
brother do you care about facts? it is a fact that african americans suffered terribly, it is a fact that right up to the highest levels there were policies and legislation designed to specifically hamper the progress of black people in “normal” society, but times have most definitely changed. Now black people have just as many opportunities as white people in most areas, and some places were black people are the majority they have more. After the death of MLK there was a mass outpouring of white guilt, if yo live in america and you can’t see how white people are trying their hardest to change and yet every dumbshit who thinks they know about slavery wants to blame white people for all their problems. Let me ask you a question when was the last time you were walking down the street minding your own business and a random person drives past and shouts out nigger? it happened to me last week, i just laugh and keep walking because obviously they are not brave enough o get out of the car and try to physically make me feel inferior, this is a regular occurrence in the north of england where i am at uni. You af americans are in a unique position, you have a lot more power than you realise. You are the face of american music, at least the one that most of the world sees, you have voting power now, and there is fast growing black middle class, but all this is going to shit. Ask the black kid nearest to you who he wants to be like when he grows up, is he more likely to say Weezy or Allan West? Gucci man or Neil Tyson? i mean come on, my role model is my father, the first black head coroner in british history, an actual legend in my eyes, his influence drives to not only help black people, but the entire human race, how many black people do you know personally who feel the same way, i know many but thats because im on this side of the pond.
Brit, with all due respect, you being on the other side of the pond severely hampers your ability to make a clear distinction between propaganda and what is real. Opportunities are based on many things, which race one belongs to is the least of them. However, because African Americans are still SIGNFICANTLY poorer than white people, the opportunities are not the same., contrary to your assertion. There is no way that my son could get into an Ivy League school with “C’s”, yet George W. Bush did. Nepotism, the good ole boy network, and racial prejudice still runs rampant here in the States. There is a study that shows that just having a black name on a resume’ cuts the applicants chance almost in half of JUST GETTING THE INTERVIEW. Please don’t tell me that is the fault of the black applicant. Please don’t tell me that racism doesn’t still exist. Now, I am not saying we should use this as an excuse to do nothing or have no ambition. But, we should be aware that the playing field is not level. This essay illustrates that perfectly. This lady feels so much disdain and hate for black ppl that she is willing to pass her ignorance on to all who will listen. Now imagine how many employers read this BS and internalizes it. So, now when “Jamal” sends a resume in, he doesn’t even get an interview. So, while I respect that you have a different perspective on our plight here in America, you don’t have the entire picture.
“However, because African Americans are still SIGNFICANTLY poorer than white people…”
Er, didn’t you earlier argue that there are more whites in poverty than blacks? Which is it?
“So, now when “Jamal” sends a resume in, he doesn’t even get an interview.”
Speaking as someone who has helped interview for positions, this is BS.
Bill your experience seems bad…now imagine 500 years of whippings, hangings, raping, degradation, and vitriolic hate heaped on you. How would you feel, how would you tell your children to feel, how would your grandchildren feel?
They’d get the fuck over it… especially since it happened to their ancestors generations ago. Y’know, like they actually did.
“imagine 500 years of whippings, hangings, raping, degradation, and vitriolic hate heaped on you. ”
Except: THAT. DIDN’T. HAPPEN. TO. YOU.
You are claiming the experiences of other people and saying you’re damaged because of them. I call BS on that. I don’t hate Italians for the way they treated the Germans, or the Picts. I don’t hate Southerners for treating my ancestors like trash, or the people around me for the way their ancestors treated Catholics. I do my best to treat people according to how THEY treat ME.
Furthermore, you are blaming people alive TODAY for the acts of people who have been dead for centuries (or decades, at the least). YOU are the bigot, the prejudiced one, because YOU are refusing to take people AS THEY ARE, and instead are blaming them for the acts of people who just LOOK LIKE THEM.
Amen, ANOTHER TRUTH SPEAKER!!!
and they wonder why they are called [email protected]@ars
One thing I have learned over the years is that there are times when I’m wrong about something, and as many of you who’ve been here for some of the ride know, I admit it.
But when your only solution is to do call for more of the same thing that hasn’t worked and believe everyone else is wrong for not agreeing, that’s where and why conversations end and people’s lives never change for the better.
The definition of insanity…
The Gubmint’s freakin’ INSANE!
Actually they aren’t insane. This mess is the plan of socialism. Keep them ignorant and enslaved. They are much easier to control.
I see this as a direct result of Johnson’s Great Society program. I’m not sure if it was the intended consequence or not but surely making any group reliant on central government was an effort to control the vote and remain in power. Who else are you going to vote for except the party who give out “da green”?!
Four generations later we have a permanent underclass doomed to a miserable, violent life with no escape in sight for most. Exceptions, of course, make it through. There isn’t much I see that can be done hence the recent DOJ mandate to overlook criminal behavior when hiring. Any wonder the jobs are fleeing America. What can you do when we have an un-educated, violent work force?
It may actually be ingrained in the black culture. While it’s only one example, I have an old corporate file concerning a rental house, dating to the 1950s. It details how a black family lived here, and though they had several sons old enough to work, “none were so inclined”. Back then the government didn’t pay rent, but there was a copy of a letter sent to the state’s welfare agency asking if they could help. The father did work when he could, but he only had a seasonal labor job in a quarry and eventually became too crippled with arthritis to even manage that. Eventually they all seemed to go their separate ways and the file ended.
I don’t believe it is ingrained despite your example rather it is Pavlovian in nature where central government rewards single women with children to the point it is an accepted “career path”. This is by Democrat design and aided by Republicans who went along to get along. Both parties have a degree of responsibility but the liberal left’s Great Society is where most of the blame should rest. What’s needed is a 40 year plan (that’s right a 40 YEAR plan) to reverse the dependency course and stress individual responsibility. Realistically I don’t see that happening, though.
A lot of it is genetic. My daughter gave me a half-breed grandson. The first time I saw him his mannerisms were black. He had never met the other side of his genetics at that point. He is 14 now, doing poorly in school and doesn’t really give a damn about anything. Not just a 14 yr old attitude, I have another grandson 3 mos older than him. Blonde hair, blue eyes, so white as can be. He is on the A honor roll every time. Will have a BS when he graduates high school. Just totally an inborn difference in them. The older one drives himself to get the grades he does, we try to get him to not be so hard on himself, he has A’s for classes that are way above the rest of the kids in his class. He has always excelled at his own insistence. I can quiz the younger one, he is smart. He can get it, he has no desire to accomplish anything. It breaks my heart for him because he is trapped between two worlds through no fault of his own just bad choices of his mother. He struggles everyday with the fact that he lives in a white family (mother is raising him alone (cat makes a better mother than she does, I can say that I am her mother )) and they do not understand the black side of him at all. These girls think they are “cool” having half black babies, they never consider the emotional consequences for the child they are bringing into the world. Especially when the genetics they give that child are “gangsta”, no education, no manners.
I’m sorry but that’s bullshit. I’m black, born of black parents. I was an honor student from the time I began school. I hold an advanced degree and graduated Magna Cum Laude from a traditional university (not an HBCU). My daughter has followed the same path. I understand that there is an ingrained pathology of low standards among black people. But to say that we are born dumb is complete and utter Kah-Kah. Shame on you to speak that way about your own flesh and blood! If your bi-racial grandson is failing in school it’s the fault of his parents who allow it. Failure is unacceptable in my home. I would never allow my daughter to be educated in the public school system. I sincerely believe that liberals believe that black people are genetically inferior. Believe me, I’m no racism chaser but to speak that way about your very own grandson is despicable!!!
DING! it’s culture and attitudes, not “genetics”.
I completely disagree with you. I am also black and have had a strong work ethic since I started school. I pushed myself hard every day in high school even waking up early every Saturday morning for more than three months to take practice SATs. I started planning for college when I was in the ninth grade. I took the hardest course load offered by my high school, pushed myself to achieve a 4.0 and at graduation had the most academic and community service awards of any student in my 70% White, 30% Asian high school. All of my hard work paid off when I was accepted to every college I applied to including five Ivy League universities. Through various study abroad and volunteer programs I have received grants to travel to China/Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan, South Korea, Morocco and Hungary. In addition to being a student I also have two jobs and continue to volunteer in the city surrounding my university. I never had any disciplinary problems and am a strong Christian obviously capable of some sort of morality. As you can see I have already accomplished more in 19 years than many white people manage in their entire lives. Perhaps you should take a look at your own bias against your grandson and the negative effect your attitude and your daughter’s apparently shoddy parenting have had on your grandson. Rather than taking time to post racist comments you should spend some time exploring the positive aspects of black culture with your grandson. Stereotypes should never be taken as a genetic truth. As a black person I’ve had to fight the stereotypes that tell me I shouldn’t have accomplished the many things I already have. Please don’t reduce me to a generalization that ignores everything that I’ve worked so hard to achieve.
Children can tell from an early age whether they are wanted and loved. It’s very clear that you despise your “half-breed” grandson (how any woman can describe her own relative that way, I don’t know). Ultimately, people have to take personal responsibility, but if one child grows up disdained by the broader family, while his cousin is blessed and praised (“we try to get him to not be so hard on himself.” Awwwww, how SPECIAL), you’re surprised that some acting out will occur? You’re surprised that he’ll reject the “hard work” values because he’s being rejected by those who SHOULD love and encourage him?
Don’t think that that your obvious hatred of your own daughter (the child’s mother) didn’t sink in either. Why did it take so long for him to meet “the other side of his genetics”? Was that your doing? Did you tell your daughter that the family wanted nothing to do with the “half breed”?
I disagree. The blacks here in Africa are, for the most part, completely disinclined to work – and this is in a country with no welfare state or government handouts. They are genetically and culturally lazy. They love jobs – but they hate work.
i bet you are from the south of the continent, what happened you get chased off your farm?
you are a perfect example of someone who is spreading a hateful message for no reason other than you don’t like black people
Idle hands…
The problem is sabotaged character development, which is a process that begins at home. This is not a problem which can be uniquely attributed to any class of people, whether by their ethnicity, economic state, etc.
It is dissociation of risk which causes corruption. It is dreams of material, physical, and ego instant (or immediate) gratification (i.e. entitlement) which motivates its progress.
I assume that with your decision to publish this essay the implication is that the content is valid in part or whole.
The author is probably Jesse Jackson, or perhaps a reformed Black Panther (I don’t recall his name). At one time, before civil rights organizations became incorporated (and for profit), he/they expressed the same concerns.
Perhaps we should send these kids to Kenya. Perhaps “diversity” is too distracting for some people. And with the marginalization of Obama’s sect, the Christians seem to be on track to reviving that nation. They may be better role models than their American cousins.
In the Episcopal church in Africa, there are groups of bishops who have sent out missionaries to America in an attempt to reclaim some of the descendants of the once-vibrant AME church, a denomination that added much to urban black culture in the 19th century.
Real Christianity is moving (globally) south and east. Thus the phenomenal growth of indigenous Christian churches in China and in some of Africa.
In the former, only the state-run Christian churches worship openly; the house churches are persecuted. In the latter, the Christians in some places contend with fierce, often lethal opposition from Islam.
I am enjoying watching ECUSA (Epis. Church in US) going thru contortions when they are faced with the fact of black African Episcopal missionaries in their midst. In D.C., this is sometimes within a stone’s throw of the National Cathedral. As ECUSA becomes more and more liberal & obsessed w/ gender parity, gay rights, and endless racism workshops, it becomes less and less relevant to the average person.
Yawn. It doesn’t help that the Presiding Bishop – I’ve forgotten her name – looks like Gadhafi.
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Send them here (Kenya is where I live). The only difference between the blacks spoken of here and the blacks in Kenya is that there are no government handouts. They are still pathologically lazy, greedy, cunning, deceitful and, when they believe a situation calls for it, violent. And violent in a feral, savage way you can’t even imagine until you’ve seen it. Nothing is being revived here, despite what your propagandist MSM would have you believe. The blacks here believe whitey owes them everything in no different a way at all than the blacks in the US.
And our fearless leader is over there pandering to them and fueling this hate….at the taxpayer expense of close to $100M. Alrighty, then.
I taught at a 50% black high school back in 1996. Perhaps 1/3 of the black students were as described in this essay. With the time that has gone by since then, I can’t begin to imagine how bad it’s become.
It’s not just blacks who have suffered a progressive degeneration. Parents may wish to reconsider their priorities. They are the natural and legal guardians of their children. Their own future is suspect with progressive corruption and an elective genocide. While money is not the root of all evils in this world (ego is the root of all evils), it, and the associated material benefits, do offer distractions and cause distortions of our priorities.
My daughter is an in-school counselor in a high school that is 96% white in a poor rural area in Maryland. It’s almost the same deal as in the black school described in the essay. Rampant drug addiction and a desire to do nothing to improve themselves. Pump out babies and stay on the dole. And a slow motion hatred for teh educated and able. It’s many generations deep now. The white trash aren’t as violent, but the in-your-face willful ignorance and self-destruction is about the same. It’s the natural result of the nanny state.
Before this job my daughter was a counselor in a 80% black closed-down steel town in Pennsylvania. Mill shut down 35 years ago, essentially trapping those less able to see a path to a future. Now the Chinese reopened the plant but it only takes about 50 workers to run it. The dysfunction is incredible. The high school has great football teams but all recruiters know to avoid the area. No one is equipped for success.
In both jobs my kid gets cursed out regularly by the welfare moms. Both communities feature women out-of-control and marginalized or non-existent men. These people don’t want to be helped. They want things to continue as they are. My kid is horrified. She’s counting the days until she’s fully certified to do private practice. Then she can work with what the profession calls “the worried well”.
When liberals tell me how (they think) the world works, I tell them what i know from peering into the porthole my daughter gives me into the welfare state. If they dispute me, I give them her phone number. The argument always stops there.
And just think, more money has been poured into this since LBJ then the cost of all wars and defense expenditures in the history of the republic combined.
Our existence is an equally huge web of lies.
This is so upsetting on so many levels that it has to be a joke, right?
No joke !! It is the nation now.
I am quite sure this is NOT a joke. I taught in a minimum-security correctional facility for several years. My students were court-ordered to get their GED before they could be released. That stipulation made no difference whatsoever in their attitudes or behavior. They have no interest whatsoever in learning anything that does not provide immediate benefit. Their interest in arithmetic was limited to the details of “cutting” their drugs before selling. They were mostly illiterate because they saw no benefit in learning to read. They never got drivers’ licenses because they could not read enough to take the test — of course, that did not prevent them from driving at all. I see no way out of this situation at all. Perhaps whites ought to leave this society that is being overrun by the welfare society and leave them “screwed.”
jb, I’m interested in what you find upsetting.
how depraved it all sounds. how alternate reality it all sounds. how despondent it all sounds, antagonistic, w/ 0 hope.
Well, what do you expect?
You’ve got a “community” (and I use that word only in the vaguest sense of Websters) that for the last 50 or so years has avoided the idea of personal responsibility at every turn and has been enabled and encouraged to so by one of the two national parties and all of their so-called “leadership”. The press is on that bandwagon as well.
Until they decide to change their ways, nothing is going to change.
Hopefully, one day we’ll see real leadership in government that will eliminate the welfare programs that feed this mentality. They aren’t owed a damn thing by anybody and until their “community” understands that they will continue to be a third world nation inside the US.
The Democrat Party’s Great Society has reached its zenith with women raising children without men. The system was created by how the money was spent to cause dependency. The German expression, “Arbeit macht das Leben suss,” is proven. (Work makes life sweet) A great society, where the non-working women raise children and the State replaces the father, is really a prison. This degenerate Black culture ends, when the trough is not filled.
Man, Black or White, is homo sapien (wise man) and can adapt. People learn new languages, new skills, begin to work and abandon old ways. Blacks survived in Africa, because they were fit. Whatever the schools might teach is irrelevant, if the government system rewards failure. Neither feeding geese and ducks in the park, nor spreading crumbs in the hood are in the end rewarding to the recipients.
The people with “good intentions” are either not familiar with the natural order or they exploit it for their personal or minority benefit.
Sad to say, all of the above, n.n, all of the above.
And remember THEIR kids go to private school! A fact that just seems to get overlooked by the flaming libs that I eat lunch with. Usually lunch devolves into how the eeeeeevvvvviiiiillll Republicans are ruining education, and I usually point out how the left has totally dominated public education since the American Mind closed in the 60s (hat tip: Harold Bloom) and I really shut them up when I asked what public schools educated the Kennedy children or Malia and Sasha?
The Democrat Party’s Great Society has reached its zenith with women raising children without men.
In one of BHO’s books he actually admitted this. But as Daniel Moynihan predicted, it will degrade and degrade. So now we have not just absent fathers but mothers abandoning their children. I only hope it means a return to group homes for kids, not the corrupt ‘foster-home’ scheme.
We live in a rural area. Our house is situated in a mostly black ‘neighborhood’ [hard to think of the cocept of neighborhoods in the country]. Attendance at the black Baptist church abutting our property is fairly high. The Boy Scout troop in this county was integrated long before diversity was in. My son was a member and reached Eagle Scout. So did a number of black boys. Yup, they were all boys…
The biggest landowner in our small part of the woods is black and he raised kids who went on to post-doctoral educations. Needless to say, they moved on – to Atlanta, NYC, etc. The man has an eagle eye, so to speak, on civic affairs in the county because he’s eighty years old and he knows that vigilance is necessary. He comes from people who stayed where they were after they got their freedom. Most eked out a barebones existence and were poorer than the poor whites here. They bore the brunt of the latters’ resentments.
This is a low income county with relatively low crime and below-the-radar resentments. I know those feelings exist because I pay attention. And when appropriate, I will talk about race straightforwardly, even jokingly. It’s important to stay real.
The description of urban black life is also a familiar one. I worked in a woman’s shelter in the city and the racial tensions sometimes ran high. If a white girl wanted to earn respect she needed to be up-front and firm if she was dissed. So that’s what I did and mostly it worked. But I also saw a goodly share of ambitious black women who pushed their kids to do well in school.
Those schools were segregated but middle to upper class whites wouldn’t admit it. What they did was send their kids to private schools in the younger grades and then for high school their children were out in public schools so they could brag about “supporting our public schools”. Their knew the kids would be safe from crackers and black kids because they were in the college prep division: even the lunches were separate A farce, but savvy black parents knew how to push to get their kids thru that door. Mostly though, they were intimidated by the bureaucracy.
The teacher didn’t mention the wiggers. Maybe there weren’t any?? Wiggers are white kids who imitate blacks in their dress, attitudes, and diction, and ambition. The attitude of black kids toward them depended on the situation…
Anyhow, this is a very accurate description of black degradation in large urban areas. And a great deal of this damage can be directly traced to the Dem decision to steal black votes thru fear. What they’ve done is cynically criminal. That’s why I admire Dr. Carson’s foundation, rescuing as many kids as he can.
No..it won’t be a “return to group homes”..it will lead to the government control of the “collective child” for EVERYONE.
They adapt and fit … seems they cant learn… except when it is to find a way to beat the system but certainly NOT the standard material in a book, even when it has been converted into a video just for them.
You are right – they can’t/don’t learn. The blacks I employ will be told the same thing, day in day out, ten times a day, and still not be able to do it. They cannot work unsupervised (even the ones with a decent education). I know of computers more heuristic than the average black. Their brains are simply not wired to learn. If they were, blacks wouldn’t continue the endless cycle of breeding like rabbits/drought/flood/poverty that prevails here in Africa.
How then do you explain those blacks who have succeded in educational achievement and in the work world?
Black man is “homo erectus”, not “homo sapien”. Blacks survive here in Africa (I know, I live here) through cunning and violence, not fitness. They are savages, and that’s what keeps them alive. Nothing else.
I wish this was fiction. Any chance this has to do with covert segregation imposed upon Blacks and Hispanics?
If black kids behaved in school, that would be one thing. If there is a covert plan to keep blacks segregated in schools, this unfortunately only justifies it.
Why do Italians prefer pasta over rice, attend Catholic church, and feel
superior to most races? Why do Germans enjoy room temperature beer,
sauerkraut, and say “donkashane”? Is it their DNA? Most likely it’s the
environment they grew up in. Blacks segregated into ghettos are awarded unfair educational funding and are so poor they haven’t been given the chance to explore other cultures and opportunity.
It may be nature; but, if it is nurture, then the causes are to be found at home. Russians were similarly poor under feudalism and later under communism, and similarly isolated, and they did not exhibit the same undesirable behavioral traits other than as individuals and in the exception. Jews had similar experiences and they did not suffer the same outcome.
The issue is not money. The issue is not diversity, cultural or otherwise. The issue may be opportunity, but it is dreams of instant (or immediate) gratification (i.e. entitlement) which motivate corruption.
Your point was a witty analysis, however, I wonder if you do not
understand the magnitude of exploitation and abuse minorities have been subjected to in the ghettos. Have you ever interviewed someone personally that has grown up there, or have you ever walked a day in their footsteps? If you have not been offered these opportunities then it may be enlightening to read scholarly, historical accounts of that particular culture or personally take the time to listen to priests and pastors that minister in these segregated communities.
It’s not merely witty or even anecdotal, it is a reflection of hundreds of millions of people under similar circumstances.
I have experienced it personally in a different context. Your conclusion that it is a lack of money, diversity, or similar that causes personal or cultural corruption is incorrect.
What do you propose the solution to be?
I have stated aspects of the solution, directly or implicitly, and repeatedly, on a number of occasions, including on this page.
Your statements were generalizations… perhaps I can ask you something more specific… First of all, I’m not disputing the fact that dishing out freebies can resolve the problem at hand.
I’m looking for your ideas… here’s a realistic, hypothetical scenario:
Lets say I am living in the ghetto raising my two grandchildren in a tiny apartment with no job because I have severe asthma (caused by the medical waste incinerators placed in the neighborhood back in the early 90’s). I have no money and no relatives in the suburbs.
What is a concrete plan or strategy I could use to relocate or break free of the cycle?
Refusing to dish out the freebies and forcing them to work for food and shelter making education a requirement for jobs, and jobs refusing to hire unless you ARE qualified to do the job, all are things which will make more people desire to work and desire an education. There are a series of books that could explain the culture and the problem and the resolution. It is a fantasy series, but the morals are implicit. The books are called the Sword of Truth series by Terry Goodkind, the first book of the series is Wizard’s First Rule. While this is a fantasy series, the entire series discusses morality and logic and how reasonable rational people should be. It asks and answers your questions. The final book is Confessor and it deals with some very harsh reality. The series faces with evil as a society, it is awesome and thought provoking.
your statements are inanities
Join the military, that is the fastest way out of the slums, and the easiest way to learn a trade. But like anyone knows you have to leave the slum behind and not take it with you.
The soviets , as much as I fought them in the cold war, had solutions. They and their society did not take this crappola.
Jacqueline, it’s going to be PAINFUL.
/rant ON/
Subsistence support. That’s right, enough support for barely enough food. NOTHING else. This may/will cause hundreds or thousands of deaths. Welcome to reality. Harsh? You betcha. BUT WHEN THE COLLAPSE COMES ’twill be even harsher. Nature always wins, and you can’t hold back reality forever. See: Africa. Internecine warfare instead of cooperation. Read John Ringo’s “The Last Centurion” about his theories on cultures that believe in cooperation vs. everybody going their own way.
The fabric of Society is very, very WORN, is under tremendous tension, and will tear apart at the slightest poking now. Don’t believe me? Just wait and see if George Zimmerman is found Not Guilty. Honkey’s gotta pay for killin’ dat poor innocen’ boy. The closest Whitey will do, though. Just wait.
Geeze Louise, girl. I could go on all day just trying to explain cause and effect, but here’s what it boils down to: You are what you MAKE of yourself. God did not promise you an easy life, nor even a “fair” life, He just said it would be worth it. Life ain’t Fair. Get over it. Get off your butt and WORK for it.
Here’s another thing. God is not responsible for Man’s inhumanity to his fellow Man. Period. We are all *responsible* for our actions, and when we have better information we act more responsibly – at least, those who care about their fellow man do. It’s called Morality. I also do believe we ARE our Brother’s Keeper. But *not* our Brother’s Enabler.
Remember Katrina? All those people in the Superdome, and as far as I can remember NObody tried to organize things, keep trash picked up, help with waste disposal, give what help they could to those with medical problems. THAT is a harbinger of things to come. Everybody’s waiting for the Gubmint to help.
I’m sure you’re familiar with the old and wise adage: “Give a man a fish, and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he will eat for the rest of their life.”
Notice the words “give” and “teach”. If you don’t want to learn, if you are not teachable, you’re doomed. If you’re given most everything, you’re doomed when the OPM (yep, pronounce it “opium”) runs out! Grasshopper vs. Ant.
Can’t help ya, girl. If you can’t see the solution, perhaps you are part of the problem. Perhaps not. But don’t keep proposing variations of the SAME THEME and expect different results.
/rant OFF/
The problems of blacks are NOT my nor my people’s problem. WE do NOT exist to improve the situation for blacks. We exist to improve OUR situation. The solution for us is to SEGREGATE ourselves from the brutish, criminal race. The solution for us is to PROTECT ourselves. We do not OWE them a THING! If they are our equal, then they should have NO PROBLEM being on their own. If we are so horribly racist then they should WANT to be RID of us. There are no black businesses other than the ones that exist on government money. It is always black people coming to white people for jobs. That is because blacks are not capable of building nor maintaining anything. They are not capable of strategizing and planning and economizing. Black athletes and entertainers more often than not end up bankrupt after having millions of dollars. They are Dysfunctional, they CAN NOT function. There is NO REMEDY for that, that is NOT our problem, WE DO NOT EXIST FOR THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
After 50 years of bending over for all the “Black” Victims – it’s time for the black community to come up with their own solutions – they are their own worst problem. 74% of births to unwed mothers, incredible black on black crime, and their utter refusal to accept anything “white”, including the ability to even speak or communicate properly – I’m sick of hearing about their problems. It is their culture…they train their children to get on the “Programs” as soon as possible, getting their Obama money – screw them – if they are to stupid, ignorant or lazy to even figure out how to feed themselves, why the hell should I care?
I am curious if the opposition is aware of the issues these people
endured for generations since “abolition”…fires, faulty elevator
wiring, rats biting your baby because they are everywhere, attending overcrowded schools in which your classes are in bathrooms and stairways, cleaning your own hospital room of blood when you finally receive one after in waiting room for a few days, toxic medical incinerators killing loved ones, no electricity or heat, etc. (these issues were caused by politicians who neglected to allocate proper funding). Also, before 1995, when someone attempted to leave, most often they were manipulated into returning home quickly. Some people think it’s so easy to pack up and leave but if you have zero resources to work with and a couple of children too, could be close to impossible?
Welcome to the real world. The experience you describe is and was universal. In fact, until recently, this was more the rule than the exception. It is still the standard for many if not most people in this world. Unfortunately, there is no instant or immediate gratification, and anyone who proposes solutions which deny the terms and circumstances of reality must be made aware of the consequences of their proposal.
Go on , find all the excuses you want and toss more money at the problem. Rewrite the text book yet again and even eliminate it to become an audio video. Most will still not try. My school was poor, we had no electric sometimes and often no heat or wood heat, YET… I wanted out of the alcoholic environment I was in and saw that only education would lift me. Thank god I was not beaten by other students but of the generation where this could be supported. I went in the army and became an officer, got my degree. We tried public school and we tried the kissy time out crap. The kids are combo private and home schooled and they get spankings. 2 of them are doctors and make darned good money.
You don’t know anything about the Jewish and what they’ve suffered or the Irish or the Italians. All you see is race and adversity and manipulation and baggage. Corruption is corruption and my great grandfather did it from a native american reservation which is far more guilt induced and difficult to leave without resources than to be poor and black in the ghetto. My family left Germany poor as can be suffering from adversity and racism and religious genocide more horrible than anything you can imagine. My family left Ireland because of problems with government and oppression and suffered racism in America told they weren’t welcome if they were Irish and those who were Irish got jobs nobody else wanted. My family left Italy after being raped and battered choosing hope in America only to be violated again by Americans during the Great Depression. The difference, I don’t live a life of crime or entitlement. I am not conservative, but I am definitely not falling for that age old line of excuses everyone always spouts either.
That is the main problem. People make too many excuses for bad behaviour. They dont make people responsible for their actions. They expect bad behaviour from minority and poor Whites. Liberals will not challenge people to change; they use political correctness and racialism to keep people down. Liberals are NOT Black people friends. I’m glad I’m not a Liberal.
Escaped black slave Frederick Douglass visited Ireland and reported that the Irish were worse off than blacks in America.
Get off the soapbox, Jacqie!!! You really don’t KNOW shit from shineola! There’s no real benefit from a ‘bleeding heart’.
She is a phony lib. Probably lives in an all white community and would never dare get out of her car in a black neighborhood,
You are a typical low information liberal. You need to get off your ass and on to your feet. Get off your pity party and go on over to huffpost where you belong.There is no sympathy here. Conservatives find your arguments without merit. You freeloaders always looking for funding need to go create your own funding. You stay in your low mental state as that is where you are most comfortable.
Mr. 1catfish,
You and the others who’ve been piling on need to lighten up. We all are entitled to our opinions and namecalling is the dominion of the left, devoid of arguments to support their positions. Let’s keep things civil here.
Mr Parks, you are out of line. You can go on over to huffpost if you are in agrement with this low information poster. She is putting out BS and you are falling in line with her. I had a front row seat to affirmative action that is theft from the white man. I was a government manager for 25 of my 33 year career and I know damn well what I say is correct and not just some off the wall opinion. You need to direct your efforts somwhere else..
Mr. 1catfish,
With all due respect, YOU are the one who is out of line. First off, let me capitalize on your ignorance. This is MY FUCKING WEBSITE. I posted the letter above and agreed with him. You’ve come her and insulted people who disagree with you. Now, you can calm the fuck down or I can block your ass.
Am I still out of line?
go to hell mancunt
he’s a pussy, a mancunt, the kind of white male that got us where we are today
Couldn’t make it in the private sector, guy?
go to hell
Cry me an “old man river”, You are hopeless
Please explain, then, why the Indians, who were also oppressed under Colonial rule and have suffered far greater poverty, are not inclined towards the same behaviours? Simple answer: it’s cultural and genetic. Indians, on the whole, are predisposed to pulling themselves up by the boostraps, not hanging on to the past, and bettering themselves with each generation. I know, I married into an Indian family. Blacks, on the other hand…
“Some people think it’s so easy to pack up and leave but if you have zero
resources to work with and a couple of children too, could be close to
impossible?”
Bull. It’s not easy, but it’s quite doable. How do you think blacks managed the “Great Migration” from Dixie to the industrial cities of the North during the last century? How do you think the millions of illegals here managed it?
You. Just. Do. It. In some ways, its even easier if you have zero resources, it makes packing a lot easier.
Many of the kids simply don’t want to learn , put the effort forth or study. Don’t you get it ? The ones who do try, get beaten … I have seen it. What planet of unreality and civil fantasy behavior are you from ?
I’m not disputing the fact that some are simply rebels. No need to be condescending please. I am on you team, we are both proud Americans.
I will propose the same question to you.
Hypothetically, lets say I am living in the ghetto raising my two grandchildren in a tiny apartment with no job because I have severe asthma (caused by the medical waste incinerators placed in the neighborhood back in the early 90’s). I have no money and no relatives in the suburbs.
What is a concrete plan or strategy I could use to relocate or break free of the cycle?
I have severe asthma, my family is a family of a history of oppression ending with my Great Grandparents on both sides of my family. Both parents addicts, one chose to leave drugs other chose not to. I grew up with and without money, I am deaf from birth and have traumatic brain injury from abuse and acquired brain injury from severe fever and lack of oxygen over a time period. So I am handicapped female dealing with religious and racial oppression and knowledge my entire life, dealing with bullying and abuse my entire life. I have a daughter and still got my GED helped my younger sister get her GED helped my youngest sister on my mom’s side get her High School Diploma and helped the sister I helped get a GED a nursing degree. That sister has heart problems, my other sister has kidney problems and may someday need a transplant, my mother had a heart attack two years ago which the tests helped discover her cancer and only recently went into remission. She spent her entire life caring for us and doesn’t know how not to and I am helping her with that and I have a daughter I care for and am on disability and still want to get off it and don’t want to live off of the government. So I am working with Department of Vocational Rehabilitation to get back into school and succeed in college. That’s the difference. I want to try and will not give up and nothing will make me and my idols are not basketball players and musicians but Leonardo Da Vinci who also lived with oppression and adversity, and my Grandpa who fought for my country.
Trista, I wish I could’ve liked your reply more than once–thousands of times! Your spirit and independence embody the greatness on which this country was founded. Thank you for your input.
Why are you looking to others to provide you a solution? You define a problem and that’s the end of your story. Why don’t YOU propose a solution if you don’t want to be part of the problem?
your disputing everything, you cling to the position that no matter what, it is not their fault. You are wrong, They are what they are
http://whitelocust.wordpress.com/morality-and-abstract-thinking-how-africans-may-differ-from-westerners/
there was an idiot from the upper east side of NYC, just like you, who made excuses for blacks. You see, you are a nobody, a nothing, you have accomplished nothing. You have latched onto “saving” blacks as a way to make your worthless existence meaningful But you have a defective mind. You will be like this woman, even a shopping cart dropped , by niggers, on your head, from three floors up, will not change you. The reason is that it is more than stupidity, it is vanity. The source of your insanity, it your liberal vanity. You think you are so important that others need you to save them. But that implies you are more capable than them, that they are less capable than you. This strokes your vanity, but it contradicts the very premise that you use to justify yourself. You are a moron, a worthless existence, like all liberals your life will add up to one big nothing other than one huge ugly ego.
http://whitelocust.wordpress.com/morality-and-abstract-thinking-how-africans-may-differ-from-westerners/
lol silly woman.wtf does an interveiw have to do with anything?interveiw poor white kids to then i bet you can find the same storie there.nobody wants to har your anti white agenda bs!
Perhaps. But in the ghetto, it is other blacks that exploit and abuse them. Violence? Yes — but not at the hands of whites.
You haven’t lived long enough to make a reasonable analysis. I have lived through all the BS of the minorities. What they need to do is get off their ass and on to their feet and take control of their own lives.They choose to remain trash, they choose thugery, they choose immmoral behavior. Hell this great grandpa picked cotton as a kid and I was married at 17 and had a kid while I was still a kid and was making only $20.00 dollars a week and I did graduate and had a career of 33 years with the federal government and I retired at 55 years old and debt free. Every minority has been given every oportunity to better themselves and here we are 50 years later and they are still sucking off of tax payers. You need to go back over to huff poat where you will fit in perfectly.
http://whitelocust.wordpress.com/morality-and-abstract-thinking-how-africans-may-differ-from-westerners/
Bull pucky, jacqueline. The lower east side of NYC…the ‘tenements’ of yesteryear, were possibly even worse than you can describe, Jacqueline…yet it turned out many good people…and that had to do with ATTITUDE.
Of course there would always be the few to ‘fail’, but by and large, all wanted something better, and so, strived for it.
It’s not exploitation and abuse that causes this. It’s something far simpler. The difference between a civilized and an uncivilized people. It takes generations to civilize. It’s a slow process. Wrong to throw us all together because there is no shortcut.
I wonder if you do not understand your emotional attachment to your position and how it clouds your thinking. YOu will cling on to that lead weight all the way to the bottom of the sea.
You’re full of excuses, Jacque… I grew up in the ghetto.
… and natural dense brain matter!
America was very poor during the great depression, whites were in extremely bad straights, hundreds of thousands of youth took to riding the rails, yet they never behaved like blacks. They never robbed, raped, looted. Poverty has NOTHING to do with it. Black athletes who get scholarships and huge salaries have a rate of violent crime that is magnitudes greater than that of white athletes.
The issue, as I see it, is taking responsibility as against passing it off to something/someone else. Doing something other than waiting for a handout or becoming a criminal. Many have been responsible and have become accomplished.
The school district in the next town over (“white”) spends about $10k per student. My local school district (“minority”) spends about $17k per student. Tell me again how the minority schools are underfunded. Incidentally, the minority school district spent $180K on garbage cans laser cut with the panther logo. This is where our tax dollars go. But they don’t have enough books for all their students. Only about half the kids graduate (I believe it is 57%). But they have a world class multi-million dollar Field House and laser cut garbage cans (which the kids destroyed within a few years anyway).
she is an extream lib trying to push her white guilt on everyone else.glad to see you not take the bait.thumbs up to you.
And places are reserved at universities for those black students, places reserved for them even though their performance is far below that of the white kids, and still , even with falsely inflated grades in college, they still have a very large rate of attrition-few go on to get a degree.
http://whitelocust.wordpress.com/morality-and-abstract-thinking-how-africans-may-differ-from-westerners/
bs stop the white guilt trip lady..i lived in an extreamly poor neighborhood,and was verey poor all my childhood.i graduated and went to school,no i didnt pay for it i got a gov loan to put me threw school i couldnt afford it.ive had a couple minor run ins with the law but all in all i came out ok.its all about what you want to do!so stop with the bs plz!
As an Italian, I prefer pasta over rice because it simply taste better! And, nowadays, if you ask someone from Asia, whether they would prefer pasta over rice, THEY TOO choose the pasta for taste! And Catholics? Have you never been to Asia? Catholicism is prevalent! And do I, as an Italian, feel superior and above others? Uh….NO! But I feel equal! Your pathetic attempt to justify you ‘crying foul’ for the ‘underfunded’ blacks is, not only ludicrous, but hilarious! Grants, subsidies, donations, and County, City, State, and Federal funding infuses it’s largest investments into these neighborhood schools, due to liberalistic whiners crying ‘foul’ for not being GIVEN an equal chance. You are pathetic. And if you are one of the same whiners, look the word pathetic up. “Id im dem bigo boogs o’er dare!” (Hooked on Ebonics!)
You are saying things that are simply a lie. They have been on the dole for over 50 years. You need to study up on what Affirmative Action is and what it has done to the destruction of america. It is not my responsibility to take these retards and morally deficient people to raise.
She will make a million excuses for a negro, but she will demonize you for the slightest thing.
Take off your lefty glasses. You can’t really be this obtuse.
Feck that shite! I was raised in a violent and abusive area. I do not behave as the people in the article. I could have become violent but I still had empathy for others. I have physical and mental disabilities, but I still want to contribute to society. Dont give me that excuse of being poor.
No, you are totally ignorant of the facts in this matter. It IS DNA, it IS a totally different cognitive ability. The IQ deficits of blacks are real and they are consistent across cultures. The behavioral traits of blacks are also consistent across cultures. Culture has NOTHING to do with it.
Sorry, Jacqueline, but what a load of libtarded rubbish. Blacks have no interest in exploring other cultures and opportunity. Take it from someone who lives in sub-Saharan Africa. If you think black behaviour such as is outlined in the article above has anything to do with what whites have or have not done, you are either deluded or have not lived amongst these “people”.
Huh? I know some black attorneys who spent their time at the library studying their asses off and at small jobs working their asses off to accomplish something! They wouldn’t give a wooden penny to the guy standing on the streetcorner bitching about how hard done by he is!!!
This justifies it
http://whitelocust.wordpress.com/morality-and-abstract-thinking-how-africans-may-differ-from-westerners/
Agreed with that. I remember my first day of grad school back in 94 and a public school teacher who had a few years in and was getting her masters, not a rookie like me, said, “Well you have to expect that a group of Black students is just going to be louder.”
I almost choked, so we just expect this and accept different standards of behavior and expectations, based on race and political correctness? I was a rookie, I kept my mouth shut.
Hell no, that is who and what they are. Thay are wannabe bullies and are morally deficient.
Tragically, it’s not fiction. It seems to be the near ubiquitous experience of school teachers over time. I began kindergarten on a northern Air Force base, in 1969. A year and a half later, I was thrust into an elementary school in my father’s southern home town, the year after the schools were integrated in this state.
Upon arrival, I was about 17 months ahead of my new classmates in school. I blew up all the achievement tests, and was outperforming most of my peers. That was a big deal then, because I was Black.
I was never told these things until years later, as my parents didn’t think it was necessary that I know them. They and the teachers, in particular the Black teachers who were also newly integrated into that school, were not about to let us come to that school, and misbehave. My family let me know that neither poor behavior, nor poor performance was to be tolerated. Even then, there were a few Blacks like me who had the advantage of such a family ethos, but more did not. Education was not as valued at home for them.
Black people for whom this applies are going to have to admit they made some mistakes. Among the biggest mistakes has been succumbing to (Leftist, Democrat, liberal) social and educational structures that propagate Black inferiority. Under the guise of “assistance”, supposed short-cuts to equality were established, and intentions-be-damned; has ingrained an inferiority of choice that has devastated the Black community, and is well on it’s way to destroying America itself. A devaluation of education that could be seen even then, has become a hostility toward education among many Blacks today.
The same forces have served to accelerate the devaluation of life itself
If that can be fixed, I expect it will take generations. Color me “pessimistic to realist”, but I’m still fighting.
I recognized though, we could see another “Dark Age”, between now and then.
no, it is due to IQ differences and actual organic difference in their brains. Blacks have smaller brains and lack or have much smaller pre frontal cortex structures. This article give a very concise explanation of the deficits in black cognitive function
http://whitelocust.wordpress.com/morality-and-abstract-thinking-how-africans-may-differ-from-westerners/
Sorry, but I’d have to reject that notion out of hand. We grew up as one of the last white families living in a housing project of NYC. Two employed parents, 5 kids. All college graduates, three with advanced degrees including an orthopedic surgeon and a sister with a Master’s degree from an Ivy League school. She runs a pediatric, critical care floor in a major hospital.
We WERE NOT the exception. I know black and Latino kids from the neighborhood that became doctors, lawyers, accountants, dentists and engineeers. Throw in the usual mix of blue collar types, cops and firefighters, the construction trades, bus drivers, you get the picture.
Those who made it all had one thing in common, a parent or parents that sacrificed EVERYTHING in the short term in order to make a better life for their children. I could tell you who was going to make it out, and who wouldn’t by the time they were fifteen.
The recipe for NOT making it out was simple. Drop out of school, use and sell drugs, create a criminal record. I lay this directly at the feet of enlightened, liberal paternalism. To partake of the spoils of the “Great Society”, a woman couldn’t have a working man. Why would you need one when your new “daddy”, the government, will put a roof over your head, food on your table and clothes on your back? As you marginalized black men, you created a new plantation where nothing is nurtured or grown. A young black man needs a male presence to put foot up the ass when he needs it. A young black women needs a proper example when seeking a spouse of her own.
Your insinuations really make me want to slap you in your face!
Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia, St. Louis, Washington, DC, NYC, Atlanta, etc, etc
And then there are the Hispanic communities of our Southwest and West…
Same story, – different language.
I live in Southern California and there are a lot of hispanics. Many legal and many illegal. I must say this about the legal hispanics who came to the US in the last 20 years that most of them are hard working and not looking for free government handouts. They have basically taken over the gardening industry. They don’t really have the knowledge about how to properly trim a tree or when is the best time of year to prune the flowers or bushes, but they know that if they charge less money than the whites and work hard they will get the business. They cut lawns, trim trees, bushes, clean houses, and work hard.
Another thing about Hispanics I like is that they are very family oriented. They work to provide for their family, but they don’t over work themselves like whites will do. In Mexico and in Central America where I now live, most businesses close at noon on Saturday and are closed on Sundays. Only gas stations, restaurants and grocery stores are open all of the time. Most restaurants are closed one or two days a week. The hispanic people are often kind to one another and if you don’t act like you are better than them, they will treat you well also. You become family. So I see Hispanics as very different from blacks.
That said, many of the illegal’s who come here and don’t learn english, they lose their children’s respect. The kids learn to speak english at school and end up translating for their parents. These kids tend to be more trouble makers then the ones whose parents learn english.
The high school I went to which was predominantly white (the kids from hispanic backgrounds were considered white at that time because their families had been living in CA for years, the parents spoke english, the kids spoke english and very often the kids didn’t know Spanish. They didn’t have accents and they lived the same way we did. I didn’t really see a big difference back then (the 60’s & 70’s)
But the schools where a lot of illegals live have really gone down hill. Many don’t graduate and there is a lot of teen pregnancy. Illegal’s also have many family problems. Sometimes the dad’s get deported and the families are separated. With no dad in the home, the kids have no discipline and get unruly.
The Hispanic migrant workers that came to CA when I was a kid were often considered lazy by American whites because they weren’t workaholics. I remember them coming to pick oranges in the orange groves that once were everywhere when I was a kid. (It’s sad that orange groves have pretty much disappeared in Orange County.) The migrant workers started work early in the day and then would have lunch and take a siesta in the middle of the day at the hottest time of day. Then in the mid afternoon start working again until dusk. Living in Central America I appreciate the devotion to family rather than devotion to money in the Hispanic culture.
This is why I don’t understand the hispanic love affair with liberalism. They are conservative at heart. Their entire way of life is the conservative platform. Then again, conservatives don’t have Hollywood and the MSM working FOR them and AGAINST the enemy.
Education, Shelley. Education.
Gotta get them to LISTEN to Conservatives. And conservatives not necessarily Republicans, either….
We may have our differences Igor, but I agree with you on this. Conservatives have good ideas. But the way they deliver them and the way they’re received has to change. And they have to try to eliminate the bigotry in their ranks.
This may surprise you, but I love my country. But I will not pretend that the US hasn’t crapped on damn near everyone in their population, and the minorities twice. I look at my history and search for the causes. I am not afraid to say, “the US messed up”. Being a patriot is not thinking your country can do no wrong. It’s looking at the country completely, good and bad, and still being able to say I love this place regardless.
zdot, I appreciate your response, especially the last paragraph. I am forced to ask, concerning these lines though:
1) ” And they have to try to eliminate the bigotry in their ranks.”
Can you list conservative positions (real ones, no bs ones) that exhibit any exhibit bigotry from an actual conservative population. Not what you’ve heard, not what you’ve read, but have experienced or witnessed with your own eyes?
2) “But I will not pretend that the US hasn’t crapped on damn near everyone in their population, and the minorities twice.”
It is my position that the “US” hasn’t crapped on anyone. However, individuals crap on each other every second of every day. Every so often, we hear of a company or corporation crapping on people. But, we rarely he of our government crapping on most of us, while they spend their sessions doing just that.
The United States of America is not perfect, because it’s chock full of human beings. The very structure of our nation allows individuals the choice to direct their lives in anyway they choose. Black, White, Polka-Dot, or Striped, individuals are responsible for making those choices, not just for their own sake, but for the sake of people in their sphere of influence: Their children most of all. Good choices by grandparents, good choices by parents, make it a lot easier for the children to then make similar and subsequent good choices. Whether or not they are fortunate enough to have such a foundation, in the end each person listed is responsible to make those good choices. They are almost certainly to suffer for bad ones. Usually, so will their children and grandchildren.